Are BFFs or friends letting you down when you need them most?

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  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited January 2013

    truebff - have you talked with your mother?  Whats her opinion?

  • Nicole4
    Nicole4 Member Posts: 104
    edited February 2015

    Blessings, you have made a difference in my world just by reading what you wrote.  Thank you for putting into words how I feel.  You have really put direction in what I was so close to figuring out.  Very nice response!

  • truebff
    truebff Member Posts: 642
    edited January 2013

    Mardibra,

    My Mom is 89 and failing. She has Parkinsons and Alzheimers and Arthritis. Dad screens her thoughts and opinions. I really think it would be unkind to her to drag her into this or make it more of a big family situation and, like Blessings advised, I doubt that anything could change my Dad. The good thing is that he gives her a soft  place to fall and she deserves that so much. I wouldn't want to do anything tomake her final years hard.

    It is what it was and I now just am pulling back into my self again.

    I miss my Mom a lot. I miss my Dad and me not being able to get close ever. He did right by me in many ways, and still found ways to belittle me too. That was/is his style (or lack of it) (which I call bullying). He believes if you're weak you'll probably benefit from a good kick in the butt.

    Thanks for this place as a safe place to vent.

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited January 2013

    Truebff - so sorry for your situation. Chin up girl...you will find peace.

  • Rennasus
    Rennasus Member Posts: 1,267
    edited September 2013

    truebff: Thanks for sharing that study! Very interesting and provides some insight. "We do want something from friends—emotional support, attention, a hand when we need one. Although we may not 'keep count,' we do want to be able to count on them." True!

  • scoutmom
    scoutmom Member Posts: 13
    edited October 2013


    When I was first diagnosed with stage IV breast cancer with bone mets on March 4 2013 I thought now I would get treated like a princess. Something I think all woman want, lol. My husband was always a good provider of necessities but not really there for emotional support or one of those husbands who spoil their wives. I have no family on my side due to some very tragic events in my childhood. So after being diagnosed I expected my husband and children and inlaws to be helpful and supportive. I at least expected maybe to get a few meals or house cleaned. What I got instead was one phone call from my father in law to express sympathy from rest of family. As soon as I recovered from the broken back caused by the tumor I went back to cooking and cleaning and laundry. My husband takes care of the medical bills and makes sure I take my meds and go to my appointments. But I need more. I want more. Am I stupid to expect more? I thought I should be treaded like something fragile and easily broken.

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited October 2013


    yes you deserve more. It is hard but have you tried a big family meet? My stuff was much less than yours but also found folks disappearing.


    then find new pals

  • truebff
    truebff Member Posts: 642
    edited October 2013


    Dear Scoutmom,


    I'm sooooo sorry you've not had more support. If you can and are up to it, get yourself into psych-oncology or to a cancer therapist and a cancer support group. It is so hard on us womens when, after all we give and give, when some people cannot or do not give to us when it is our hour of needing help. Just remember there are many, many good souls out there who will help you. They just -and this is so disappointing and disheartening I know- may not be the ones that we thought.


    Big Hugs! And you will also find a LOT of GREAT support on this site.

  • katcar0001
    katcar0001 Member Posts: 621
    edited June 2015

    Having a bit of a meltdown over the loss of some friends. I should be asleep, but my body thinks it's time to get up. Maybe I am just jet-lagged, but I am quite upset that another friend unfriended me on FB while I was away on vacation. She had been acting weird with me in social gatherings since my diagnosis, so I guess it was not a big surprise, but it still hurt. I never realized I could offend people just by having the misfortune to get cancer. I just posted this on my FB page, and I rarely ever post negative thoughts there:

    I try to be positive, and yet a lot about cancer is dealing with loss--I think the physical losses go without saying, but then there is the lack of your surety and peace, and living with uncertainty robs you of joy. I am doing my best to find that joy again by living in the moment and not feeling guilty about living to the fullest in spite of finances and responsibilities. The worst, though, has been the loss of a number of friends. I guess they could not handle it, but one of my best friends did not show up for me at all (have known her since I was 28), and another friend here in town de-friended me after acting distant and weird around me in public since my diagnosis. What? I didn't know that contracting cancer was so offensive as to warrant that. Some friendships I walked away from because they were too toxic, and I decided they were not conducive to my health. But these losses still hurt tremendously. My vacation was a welcome reprieve from this topic that has been nagging at me for months. This has been a big theme on the online boards i participate in, so I am not alone, You do find out who are your true friends during this process, and you find some new gems on the journey for which I am immensely grateful. That is the upside. And I have to say that my current partner and former partner have been absolutely wonderful and supportive during everything, including putting up with my occasional meltdowns. For that, I am especially blessed.

  • katcar0001
    katcar0001 Member Posts: 621
    edited June 2015

    I just saw Scoutmom's post, and my heart goes out to you. My problems are minor as I do have support at home although I often have to ask for it. If you haven't asked for help, I suggest you do so. You deserve some pampering.

  • Sabel
    Sabel Member Posts: 55
    edited June 2015

    My BFF has opted out of coming to visit or call. We have known each other for over 40 years, but for 25+ years, I have had serious health issues which must have ticked her off. I don't want pity and that's a good thing because she's all about logic and scientific proof - no time for feelings.

    There were others whose friendship meant the world to me, but they've gone missing too..

    All in all, my family is most supportive and I'm beyond grateful for them.

  • katcar0001
    katcar0001 Member Posts: 621
    edited June 2015

    40 years is a long time. It's tragic to lose a friend like that during a crisis like this. I am sorry. And being ill should not tick someone off. It's not your fault, and you are not doing something to offend them. I don't get some people. I am glad your family has been of comfort and support.

  • Positive_spirit
    Positive_spirit Member Posts: 218
    edited July 2015

    katcar and Sabel, my heart goes out to both of you. What is wrong with people? My best friend has had trouble being there for me as I was for him. It hurts that while I supported him fully, he is unable to reciprocate. Hurts like hell.

  • katcar0001
    katcar0001 Member Posts: 621
    edited July 2015

    Pos_Spirit, I am sorry your friend is not there for you. With men I find they respond better if you give them specific ways to help you that are tangible and not emotional, like go get you some groceries or drive you to an appointment. In general, I don't get some people as I know I'd be there for them if the shoe were on the other foot. I am trying to practice forgiveness as the alternative is not healthy for me.

  • kittysister
    kittysister Member Posts: 212
    edited July 2015

    So sorry for everyone that is hurting. I thought my husband would be a little more pampering too, than he has been. But I think with him, since he has never been the pampering kind, he wouldn't really know how. Even if he tried, it wouldn't last long. Over the years, he has more expected me to be the strong one. And I worry about what would happen if I got in seriously bad shape. I hope I never have to find out.

  • kittysister
    kittysister Member Posts: 212
    edited July 2015

    Oh my, I am truly getting absent minded! I see this was supposed to be about friends! Well, I count hubby as a friend, though sometimes not as caring a friend as I would like.

    I have a couple of close friends. The rest, even though I have known some for many years, are just distant friends now. If I was to pour my heart out to most of them, they would probably run for the hills! Sorry about that!

  • macb04
    macb04 Member Posts: 1,433
    edited August 2015

    I called my father and left him a voicemail on Thursday the morning of my 14th surgery, my implant exchange , said if I die to help take care of my girls. He has always been a toxic, coldhearted SOB. Lately he occasionally says that he will be there for me. I just don't trust him. He said after my diagnosis, "If your breasts are a problem, cut them off" That hurt me so much, I thought he might care even a little. He wasn't there for me when they butchered, fried or poisoned me, (sorry but I never call what was done "treatment ". ) My father hasn't called at all since the surgery, not one word.


    My husband thinks anything my father says or does is just fine. He is not my friend half the time. I had a melt down yesterday and today again, feel so sad, upset and angry. I apologized to keep the peace, but in my heart I feel that my husband never has my back, and that he is such a critisizer. I am afraid to be alone, to be a really poor single parent.I work part time and live paycheck to paycheck. I spend all my money on supplements for me (because I don't feel safe after all the misery and pain and don't want to die until after my girls are grown up) and on them, their shoes, clothes, camps for the summer. Nothing left, no savings. Another thing my husband gets mad about. I try and eat a healthy diet, buy organic, which just pisses off my husband as well because it is such a waste of money according to him.

    I have two friends, one I never expected to have, another who had BC 20years ago and gets "it " most of the time. Still, though I am alone a lot except for my kids and husband. And as I said, he's not much of a comforter. I don't really hear from those friends I mentioned either, mostly I call them, although one took me to the last surgery this week. She and I both have young daughters and they get together sometimes for activities. Just wish I had someone who was there for me more often then once every 2to 4 weeks. Thought my husband would be that person, but it didn't turn out that way. He just makes me angry with his thoughtless comments. He can be good sometimes, just too, too rarely to make me feel that I am not alone.

    Sorry this is a major bummer, butgottosay this somewhere or I will burst.

  • Myosteo
    Myosteo Member Posts: 7
    edited September 2015

    Dear LtotheK:

    I understand exactly what you are going through. I was diagnosed with Triple Negative I April 2015. This was my second BC. I had a different type in 2009. My partner of 43 years has totally rejected me this time. Saying it is my fault I have cancer again. She says now the surgery and Chemo are done that I am using the cancer for attention. I'm shocked and dismayed by her rejection. Thankfully,I have 12 Breast Cancer survivor friends who I see at Mass everyday. They give me hope and the support I don't get at home. With their prayers I know I'm closer to free!

  • Myosteo
    Myosteo Member Posts: 7
    edited September 2015

    Dear Macb:

    I feel so bad for you. I know exactly what you are going through with your husband. My partner of 43 years has totally rejected me this time. ( I had BC in 2009 ) She says it is my fault I have cancer again. She says I'm using my cancer to get attention. She refuses to do any chores and makes me put away the groceries she gets at the store. I thought she loved and cared about me but I'm not so sure anymore.

    Thankfully I have 12 dear friends who are BC survivors I see at Mass daily. They give me support and hope I will be a survivor too! Sometimes we have to look outside of the home for help.

    I'll pray for you. I'll pray that you are closer to free so your children will have you for many years to come. God Bless You!

  • Sharazhad707
    Sharazhad707 Member Posts: 37
    edited September 2015

    Dear Grey, you are not alone in this at all.

    It was quite harsh of your "friends" to have said that to you. BCA shouldnt happen to anyone, unfortunately it does. I have no children or a husband either. Infact my bf and I broke up within 6 weeks of my diagnosis and my BFF who I've known since childhood has recently moved to another town for work. You may feel alone, but here at BCO I've found that we're kinda like our own family.

    There is much to live for, because you are more than cancer, or a man, or children. You are fantastic in your own beautiful way.

    Hang in there girl, you've got this! This little piccie is for you :D

    image

    Love, S

  • beeve
    beeve Member Posts: 71
    edited September 2015

    I'm watching the View and there's a BC patient, a teacher, who is getting showered with support and devotion. I see these stories all the time and I know y'all so too.

    So are we the exception to the rule or the silent majority?

    I thought I'd get family support, especially since 1) my sister in law and brother had been through the same deal a decade earlier and 2) my mother died from BC a mere two years prior. Brother and sisterIL promised to come help out for a bit but never showed up. My father moved from a two hour drive to a 20 hour drive away. My 20 year best friend disappeared until it was all over (and now I am done with her). It turns out I have only a few friends and no community to speak of, even though I was a teacher and theater fixture for 20 years.

    I have to think it's because I'm not as liked as I thought I was, that it was all a sham. I've always struggled to be part of any group and my BC experience reinforced all those adolescent social insecurities (in the back of my head is Carrie's mother/Piper Laurie screaming "They're all going to laugh at you!") and turned me rather bitter. I only trust one person now, my DH who has been there 175%.

  • igay1ord
    igay1ord Member Posts: 193
    edited November 2015

    Wow...I thought it was just me who was having issues with friends/family! I have to admit my mom and sister have been great! My sister's husband is going through his own cancer issue with pancreatic cancer, but she calls me all the time to check on me. My sons are great too! They just seem to know exactly what to say when I need it. My sons are 32 & 25 so of course they've left home and are in FL, so I really miss them.

    The ones I'm having issues with are my husband & my best friend for the last 17 years! My husband is so far in denial, that he just flat refuses to talk about it. He works out of town and only comes home 3-4 days a month, which thank goodness, it coincides with my treatments. Just yesterday I tried to tell him that I had a really bad day Saturday since my hair has started coming out. His response to me "well, you knew you were going to have bad days, and I'm sure there will be many more". That was it! He totally changed the subject. My best friend refuses to be around me. I've tried texting, calling and even going up to her office (we work for the same company). She acts like she's just too busy for me. And for some reason, she seems to have trouble looking at me now that I've lost the major part of my hair.

    I just needed to get this out. Thanks for letting me vent!

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