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Stacy7
Stacy7 Member Posts: 32

Just when i started feeling better about my treatment plan, i ran into topics about how risk is higher after tamoxifen 5 yrs and even higher at 10 .. Need some positive now :( i know there r no guarantees but there must be a positive ? I dont want to feel like i have no hope for a full life, im 45

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  • Stacy7
    Stacy7 Member Posts: 32
    edited August 2015
  • Lojo
    Lojo Member Posts: 303
    edited August 2015


    Hi Stacy, I'm not entirely sure what you are concerned about. Are you concerned about tamoxifen side effects at 5 and 10 yrs or the risk of cancer recurrence? Tamoxifen reduces recurrence risk at 5 yrs and new research shows some groups of women benefit from 10 yrs of tamoxifen, meaning that it reduces further the risk of cancer recurrence. There are side effects, but not everyone has them. I've had a year and a half on tamoxifen with very minor side effects -- nothing that has really affected my daily life.

  • Stacy7
    Stacy7 Member Posts: 32
    edited August 2015

    i keep reading how risk of recurrence and mets increases alot after finishing tamoxifen .. Being a newbie in BC u can imagine how i felt reading thi

  • Stacy7
    Stacy7 Member Posts: 32
    edited August 2015

    my onc said that the longer NED the better

  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited August 2015

    Stacy, you continue to benefit even after you have finished taking it:

    Tamoxifen: The Benefits Continue

    By naz On Friday, August 19, 2011 · 13 Comments

    The growing trend in treating hormone positive breast cancer is to stay on some kind of hormone blocker for a significant period of time. Many women have told me that they fear stopping their tamoxifen or aromatase inhibitor because they think that it is only keeping cells under control, and that without the drugs the cancer will come back.

    I always explain that studies have shown that tamoxifen's benefits lasted well beyond the five years women were on it. It seems like a period of hormone suppression has a long lasting effect, possibly by making any cells that are left dormant inactive or by changing the microenvironment (neighborhood) around the cells so that it keeps the cells in check. Now we've got even more data to back that up.

    Last month, the Early Breast Cancer Trialists Collaborative Group (EBCTG) reported in the Lancet an updated meta-analysis (a study that combines data from a number of studies) on the long-term benefit of five years of adjuvant tamoxifen.

    The meta-analysis included a total of 21,547 women who had taken part in one of the 20 trials in which women were randomized to either tamoxifen or a placebo/observation. (In most of these trials the women took 5 years of tamoxifen, in some the took it for only 2 or 3 years.)

    The researchers have been following these women for 15 years so that they could study the long-term effects of tamoxifen. The new analysis showed that during the first four years of tamoxifen use a woman's risk of recurrence was reduced by 50 percent, and that during years 5 through 9 it was reduced by 30 percent, for an average recurrence rate reduction of 39 percent. (This means that if your chance of recurrence was 10 percent it would be reduced to about 6 percent).

    The study found that after five years the absolute mortality difference was only 3 percent (9 percent in the tamoxifen group; 12 percent in the placebo group). By 10 years after stopping the drug (year 15), the absolute mortality difference was 9 percent (24 percent in the tamoxifen group; 33 percent in the placebo group.) In other words it got better over time, even after the drug was stopped.

    Most importantly, because the benefit has remained high over the past 13 years, this study tells us that for many women with ER-positive tumors, five years of tamoxifen not only reduces the risk of recurrence but also essentially cures the disease.

    These findings should be reassuring to women who were on tamoxifen before the aromatase inhibitors (AIs) were developed. They should also be reassuring to women who switched from an AI to tamoxifen because of some of the common side effects associated with the AIs, like bone and joint pain. And they should be reassuring to premenopausal women for whom tamoxifen has remained the standard of care.

    I think that this study may encourage more doctors to prescribe 2-3 years of tamoxifen to all women before they start on five years of an AI. It may also lead to more studies that look at whether five years of tamoxifen would be beneficial after five years of an AI.

    These findings also point to the fact that we really don't fully yet understand how tamoxifen works!

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited August 2015

    Stacy, 10 years from now hopefully alot will have changed. Better treatment maybe even a cure.

  • Racy
    Racy Member Posts: 2,651
    edited August 2015

    Stacy, the other factor is the studies which show greater benefits if you switch from Tamoxifen to an Ai either at the five year mark or earlier. There are articles about that in the research news section of this site.

    There is a lot of positive news with the treatments available now and, as meow says, things could improve a lot more in the next 10 years.

    Focus on doing what you can now to prevent recurrence and work with your doctors so that you are confident you are getting the best treatment for your situation.

  • Stacy7
    Stacy7 Member Posts: 32
    edited August 2015

    thank you so much for replies!! It helps alot .. I pray for everyone always

  • farmerlucy
    farmerlucy Member Posts: 3,985
    edited August 2015

    Hi Stacy - I think a BC dx shakes so many of us to the core. If you are like me you look for answers everywhere. I twisted and kneaded the stats for months. What really sucks is no one can give us a guarantee. It's not like we can go five years and have the docs say "you're cured!". I've decided I am cured until something proves otherwise. Initially the uncertainty drove me crazy. Then slowly I learned to live with it and get back on with my life. Someone here had a great analogy. She called it BC radio. Initially BC radio plays in your head every waking moment. Later you still hear it but it blends into everything else going on in your life. You'll get there. Take care!
  • peggy_j
    peggy_j Member Posts: 1,700
    edited August 2015

    FWIW, when I had my annual follow-up with my breast surgical oncologist this summer, I asked her about the risk of recurrence many years down the line (I'm at 4.5 years right now). She said that yes, sometimes there is a recurrence much later but in her words, it's rare.

  • Stephmoen
    Stephmoen Member Posts: 563
    edited August 2015

    bc radio I like that..can't wait for the day my radio blends in with everyday life

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