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  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited July 2015

    artista - also, many people have benign lesions on their liver - not necessarily something that will require surgery. Hoping so for your friend's sister.

  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited July 2015

    Thank you SpecialK. Unfortunately she's having increasing pain. I know her sis and feel so bad for her, special needs like and must be so scared and confused. She's 62. BFF is 64. Makes me grateful for at least being of sound mind to be able to understand and handle it.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited July 2015
    Artists,
    Sorry about your friend's sister. Life is full of curveballs and it seems there are more of them as we age. To answer you question about couch sleeping, I can only say that is something only you can determine. I could have done it, but preferred my bedroom, which I really like. When I was downstairs, I spent my time in a large club chair with an ottoman. Now, on to food. Waiters on Wheels is a service that picks up food from a large number of restaurants and delivers to your home. There is also a service that one of my dd's use that delivers prepared meals. You can order daily. I'm not sure of the range of their delivery area, but there may be several services in the Bay Area that do this. I'll try to check it out for you.
    Caryn
  • BrooksideVT
    BrooksideVT Member Posts: 2,211
    edited July 2015

    I don't think they can kick you out of the hospital until you can use the toilet unassisted. If it's a bit iffy, you can ask for a couple of OT or PT sessions (in hospital and/or at home) to help you figure out how best to use your body to achieve the correct heave and ho stuff. Also, rolled towels or throws can supplement pillows in making your couch just right for your recuperating self. As for hanging out on said couch--the days they encouraged that are long gone. Chances are you'll be directed to engage in a surprising amount of activity, to speed healing.

  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited July 2015

    Thanks Caryn and BrooksideVT. I'm already on the couch a lot because I so fatigued all the time. I try and walk around my small apt. The thing about going out is those steep cement stairs leading down from my apt. One trip and you're gone for good. And with my bad knees and soon to be on meds and all, kind of scary even if I use the railings. This is the last time I get an upper level place. I moved here 7. 5 years ago with no health issues so the benefit of having no one above me was great. Now I'll take someone walking on my head noise over stairs! lol

  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited July 2015

    OMG. My bff who is going to be helping me after bro leaves for LA 5 days after my sx just got very bad news on her sis. She has liver, pancreas and colon cancer. So so upset and in shock. She's mentally challenged so she never wanted to go in for a check up. The only time was the occasional times where something was bad and it was to the ER. The sis knows now and Anna my friend is getting her tranquilizers so she can get her anxiety under control. Docs are saying she should continue on as usual in her life the best she can, and she wants to keep going to her special needs school. Oh man. I'm crushed. I love her sis too.

    I hate to bring this up as I feel what I have is nothing compared to her sis and am embarrassed to still be concerned, but assuming everything goes well and with my positive and determined attitude, you guys think after 5 days after sx when bro has to leave, I'll be ok on my own. Not great but ok? I simply can't bring up her helping me now and wouldn't blame her if it would be too much. :(

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited July 2015

    this is very, very sad, and I understand you must feel awful asking your bestie for anything right now.

    It is my true belief that you are very well prepared and you will be fine after your brother leaves. If anything more serious were to occur it would probably require bigger guns than your friend anyway. But I think you'll be just fine.

    And you have us.

    I'm very sorry you and your friend have had this difficult news

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited July 2015
    I am so sorry to hear about your friend's sister. That must be devastating for them.
    I wholly agree, that if you are well prepared in advance, and take advantage of your brother's help, you should be fine. I live near downtown San Jose, so please pm me if you need anything (I mean it!).
    Caryn
  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited July 2015

    Thank you so much Jackbirdie and Caryn. And Caryn! Thank you!! I have every intention of being ok once bro leaves but I just don't know because I've never had sx before in my life to say last time... Thank you so much again. My bro will breath a bit better too just by your offer.

    I'm devastated myself. I mean here we thought liver and today add to it colon and pancreas. Wow. So I'm doing my best to be there for my friend mentally but I know I have to be careful not to get in too deep because I have clinical depression and anxiety, and while I've worked on getting my attitude and all in a good place, I can't risk sliding down myself with just a week to go before sx.

    Thanks so much again ladies! You are all such a blessing I can't even say how much. Thank God for this site and people like you to keep us newerbies up! Much love to you all! xo

  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited August 2015

    3 full days left for me! ah!

    Trying to think of what you can eat and not worry about constipation with it and all. Bro is the only one in here and he can do only simple quick things, so even chicken soup is out. Plus is so warm here so I'd want meals that are cold or don't taste bad cold.

    Scrambled eggs with tomatoes and green peppers cooked in, TJ's herbal rice medley (or does rice of any kind constipate you?), fish, frozen spinach with greek yogurt mixed in--- and very very simple things to throw together in a jiff for him to handle?

    TIA!
  • Janett2014
    Janett2014 Member Posts: 3,833
    edited August 2015

    Have lots of fresh fruit around as well as dried plums (prunes). Fruit is good anytime but especially when it's hot. It will help with the constipation too. Also, take a dose of Miralax every morning in juice for as long as you're taking Rx pain meds.

  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited August 2015

    Thanks! Not a big fruit fan but will have to become one! :)

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited August 2015

    Artista- just wanted to let you know I'm thinking of you on this big night before surgery. I hope some kind of peace envelops you as you move through the next 24 hours, I'm glad your bro is there. And we are all here. Take care. Check in when you can't and let us know how you are.

    Hugs and mojo coming your way now

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited August 2015

    Arista, best wishes from this end of the country, see, betcha never thought you would have so many folks caring for you!

  • meezers3
    meezers3 Member Posts: 95
    edited August 2015

    I live alone and don't have that much support. I am going to try to find a support group at the hospital.

  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited August 2015

    Sorry I've been a bit MIA. While my own sx seems to have gone well according to my ps yesterday at my po, my bff Anna who is also a help with me got confirmation yesterday that her sister indeed has metastatic cancer that started in the pancreas and has spread to her liver where there is a large mass there. I almost hate telling her my news as it's like nothing compared to her sis who is in constant pain and the clock is ticking for sure as it goes with pancreatic cancer. So between my resting and trying to be an ear and help her research it, I've been mia. Her sis while 62 is mentally challenged to where her capacity is of like elementary school child. Simply heartbreaking.

    While discomfort and the 4 drains are a pain in the butt to deal, it isn't as bad as I thought. PS has me seeing him once a week so next appt is Mon. I see bs for po on Fri then it goes for 6 mo as long as nothing comes up for him to recheck. I think I'm more worried about the se of chemo and tamoxifen. I see MO 9/23 again to figure tx plan.

    Bro leaves early evening today. Been here from LA since last Wed. Poor guy has done a lot. May not look like it but wow, the little things like bring me a cup of water can be huge at times. He's very queezy about body fluids. So we went from before him coming here no way can he deal with that to at times being in the bathroom stripping the tubes. He's ran a lot of errands for me, washed my car and waxed inside of it. Looks brand new after months of neglect. Going to miss him. He's spent though. While he sleeps 9 hour nights, stress has him looking like he slept 0. Feel bad for him. He's sticking around till 8 pm tonight not cuz I have stuff yet to have done but Anna is coming over after work and would like to see him one more time before he heads back to LA. Who knows when he'll be back up to see me because since this is such a secret with the fam, he has to be careful with mom and dad. Mom's easy as she's in Seattle but he sees dad every weekend and it can be weird if he skips one. So this past weekend it was a friend of his from out of state came and he's busy with him in LA catching up. Otherwise if it wasn't sneaky and especially if dad knew, he'd stay all he wants cuz dad would cover the pricey car rental beyond the week he has it for. That expires at 5:30 am tomorrow so hence the leave at 8:00 pm and get there before 5:30 am to get it in on the dot.

    Anna has done a lot for me over the years. Bro loves her too for it and she's a great person. Wacky family with crazy mom and all unfortunately. So there are 2 of us for me and bro in terms of emotional and mental support for her too.

    If anyone happens to know a site like this for pancreatic cancer, please let me know. I have never seen such a thorough informative and supportive site like this one is. Wow. God bless whoever started this one.

    I'm thankful I read this site for 2 months and was very prepared. Thank you to all of you here who helped me very much in the process. You all have your own stuff going on and yet you take the time to help little ole me and others. Much love to you all for that.

    I did suffer and I think do still from constipation from Norco and none of the otc stuff worked. What worked for me was a handful of prunes and then I had the D problem for awhile. lol. I think I'll need to do the manual flush with prunes so to speak until I'm done with Norco, which will be when the bottle is empty and I'm afraid to not take it and wind up in pain. Thankfully no pain per se for a couple days now but the tightness and discomfort and swelling is nuts!

    I have no idea now how the staging thing goes with me with my #s now. Just by virtue of the largest diameter of it was 7 cm would put me a III but I look there and can't figure out what it would be since they said the nodes they took out are clear, clear margins, and they think they got it all. I know mine was weird shape, they say like a dumbell type thing. It did look weird at biopsy like a tumor with 4 leaf clover wings or something. As for II it reads no greater than 5 cm. So it's like mine is in a gray area? Do they go by nodes more than size?

    God bless you all, with much love. <3
  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited August 2015

    I'm glad you checked in Artista. Have been thinking about you but knew your bro was there. Keep the faith and check in if you need support. We are still here for you.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited August 2015

    artista - from what you have said you look to be IIB - larger than 5cm, but clear nodes - here is a link to BCO's info. Glad you are doing OK and glad you checked in. Sorry about your friend's sister's situation.

    http://www.breastcancer.org/symptoms/diagnosis/sta...

  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited August 2015

    Thank you ladies! And thanks SpecialK- I missed seeing that last one so I am a IIB.

  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited August 2015

    Bro left Tues eve. Did a lot. I'm functioning pretty well. 1 week and an am out from sx. I stayed on Norco 1 every 4 hours until I decided to stop it yesterday at the 6:30 pm dose time. Don't feel any different. Maybe I didn't need it or so much. Never did test it cuz was afraid of the pain. I have a few left in case something goes south.

    One thing I think is weird is I feel more tired and could sleep more than I did before. I sit up and walk to the kitchen/bathroom in this small place but since my couch is set up comfy, I lie down and have 0 problem falling asleep. More problem getting up when I awaken. Any idea why it would be more so now than when more fresh out of sx?

    Last night I was too chicken to take a shower so I just managed to wash my hair for my appt with bs this am. The driver called to confirm she's coming.

    Antibiotics should be done on Sat, which is the week dose they gave me.

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited August 2015

    Arista, you sound like you have made it through this well, if you are tired, then nap! nothing wrong there since you have been through a lot and your body is just telling you to rest

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited August 2015

    I agree with Iris. You sound like you are doing really well and your body is just needing rest to heal.

    Good job!

  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited August 2015

    Saw bs po. Since pulled 7 cm out and found microtraces of bc cells in 1 node, he said I could be a IIIa. For sure IIb. It's like on the border it seems because of both the tumor size being so large and the lymph report:

    11. Lymph nodes:
    Total number of lymph nodes examined (sentinel and nonsentinel): 4
    Number of sentinel lymph nodes examined: 2
    Number of lymph nodes with macrometastases (>0.2 cm): none
    Number of lymph nodes
    with micrometastases (>0.2 mm to 0.2 cm
    and/or >200 cells): 1
    Number of lymph nodes with isolated tumor cells (<0.2 mm and
    <200 cells): 0

    So seems my chemo will be more aggressive and he said to make a fu appt with RO so I see her next Fri. Kind of nervous. I know I shouldn't read the stage IV forum but can anyone avoid it? Seems many start out low stage and a few years later are stage IV with mets.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited August 2015

    Artista- try to not go there. Stay in the present, ok? There are many people living years and years with similar or worse dx. And they can only make chemo so bad. I had 6 doses of TC and made it. You will too. But try very hard not to look ahead any further than your next appointment. I know it's very hard to do that, or not do it in this case, but practice helps. Keep putting those thoughts in a box marked "to be addressed later". Promise yourself you will go back to these questions when you know more.

    Sending you a hug and some pharmaceutical grade mojo now.


  • octogirl
    octogirl Member Posts: 2,804
    edited August 2015

    Artista, have been thinking about you! .glad to hear you did well with bro there but are still doing well with him gone...and I agree with the others: your body is just telling you that you need to rest! hope you have a good weekend!

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited August 2015

    Artista - I was 67 at first diagnosis & live alone. I stocked the freezer before each procedure & took all the other recommended precautions of moving dishes to lower levels. When I had my BMX, my son was here for 5 days. As soon as I quit the pain meds, I was able to drive w/in 24 hours, so I took him to the airport. Then he came again for 3 days when I had reconstruction. Two years later he came for 2 days for port installation & 3 days for my ALND surgery. I just wanted to let you know that I did just fine by myself. I went through 6 rounds of one chemo and then after surgery, 3 rounds of another chemo totally by myself. I drove myself down & back every time - 30+ minutes each way depending on the traffic Then had 5 weeks of radiation and i drove myself there & back each time - 40 minutes each way. Then herceptin for the rest of the year, and you guessed it, drove myself down & back. I'm sorry to hear about your BFF's sister, but you can make it.

  • vogliodipiu
    vogliodipiu Member Posts: 19
    edited August 2015

    ..i was 39 when i was diagnosed last february, about a month before my 40th birthday (worst one ever by the way)..i am single with no kids and all my family is overseas. i live in the bay area in california which is very transient and have only been here for 5 years so i don't have a ton of friends. i envy women with (dedicated) husbands and a family to see them through this trying time and it is hard to to it all by yourself. i get so tired of being strong but if i allow myself to become weak there will be nobody there picking me up on a daily basis, so i do it myself. it sucks but it also makes me stronger and more self reliant and it is good to know i can weather the storm on my own.

    artista, i hope your surgery went well and i will include you in my prayers tonite!! big hug!


  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited August 2015

    Thanks everyone! You are all gems! Vogli: I'm in Fremont. If you are still going to med appts and feel you can't drive yourself there, check out drivers for survivors. I signed up and I just call in and they arrange for rides for me. Phone: 510-896-8056. You can call this # and they can point you to one in your area if this isn't the right #.

    Also, how do you add notes to your dx/sig? I am either stage IIb or IIIa on the border because of the 7 cm size tumor and the microscopic amounts of cancer cells found in sentinol node 1.

    Thanks again all! Love to you all!

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited August 2015

    Arista, see, you are giving back to others already!

    congrats

  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited August 2015

    When I saw bs for po yesterday, he said I should get port placed if that's in the cards a couple weeks before I see MO 9/23. Does that sound about right? To not cause delay. And am I able to be on my own after it? I did have bro for 4 days at home which helped and am not sure about this now. TIA!

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