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Jazzy- we have lousy genetics. I got BRCA tested and came out negative but there are quite a few cases of BC and Prostate CA, and just one ovarian CA after BC 20 years earlier. My Mom even had a huge ovarian mass removed benign- lucky duck! Obviously science has not unraveled all the markers for cancer. So there is some weakness or switch that can get turned on buried in our genes. I feel sorry for all my cousins. My one cousin the same age (56) as me has already been in for surgery with some form of colon cancer. Then I had a melanoma taken off as did my Mom. GF died of Non-hodgkins lymphoma at 51 years old. My grandfathers brother had some form of chronic leukemia. The list just goes on and on..
Chevy- I am sure you will be source of comfort and strength to your dear friend Rosie! May all her biopsy results be benign and this a speed bump on the road. Take care of each other tomorrow.
(((Hugs))) Patty! Your boys come home today right? Enjoy.
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Rose- there are a whole suite of new cancer gene markers. I have had several round of genetics tests, because I had bilateral and they think that is often genetic. We have little cancer in our family, just one uncle with prostate but then my sister and I both got diagnosed with bc within months of each other. I think my BS was pushing for the tests because she does teaching and research and wants the data for her own reasons. Everything has come negative. It is VERY hard to get these tests paid for. Multiple appeals and some denials. I never had to pay a dime.
Also, some of the newer markers tie bc, prostate, pancreatic, colon and melanoma risks together. I mention that because you mentioned the melanoma. I have had the bc, plus a basal cell removed last summer.
One of my friends whose partner just had bc treatment has a lot of cancer in her family, and had what I think were the same latest generation of tests and she had some results suggesting a genetic history.
Just thought I would share this since I have gone down the genetic road a bit.......
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chevy - how great of you to go with rosie. Hoping the biopsy is negative.
Rosevalley - sorry you are so uncomfortable. Glad to hear there is relief on the horizon. My family also had lousy genetics. Cancer has killed every member of my family as far back as I remember. No car wrecks , heart attack , old age etc nope cancer. So very glad we adopted our boys and they didn't get my genes.
Blondie - 9 days - hooray. So excited for you
Jazzy - hi. Still doing moon naked yoga or whatever it was lol ?
SAS - love your openness. Glad you are getting to experience the young sexual experiences. Bet your dbf feels like he hit the jockpot ! I agree nookie certainly can change attitudes. Without it I feel so seperated from Dh.
Lovely - 108 actual temp? Holy moly ! That's hot. Wow hope you don't have to get out in it. Love the shoe pic
Luvmygoats & sppokie. - yum plum jelly - that takes me back to my childhood. Yummy indeed. We had several huge gardens. A lot of work and then it harvest time which is even more work to can and freeze them. Its def cheaper to buy them at Walmart but not near as yummy. Good for you !
Wren - i threw out all my high heels. Just not doing that to my feet or back . prefer sandles !
Darn my boys will actually be home tomorrow. Meme had a change of plans. Ugh ! Well I can make it one more day. Yesterday our ac went off and of course the ac guy couldn't get to us the same day , it was already like 3pm. Ac guy gave Dh soine stuff to check. My most talented Dh came home and messed with it and got it running but we couldnt get the part last night. So once it shut off again it wasn't going to start without the new part. The house was 86°. We hug in the poollast night til our skin was so wrinkling we looked like raisins. Lol told my dh probably the only chance to see me looking okd and wrinkly. Hes finally able to laugh a LITTLE with me about death. We put the thermostat on 60° and onceut shut off it stayed cool in the house. I nearly froze with 2 blankets on. My backs stiff this am. It always hurts when i get really cold. Dh already got the part today and put it on. Dh can fix nearly everything. Feeling lucky to have him.
Hootie hoo
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Jazzy- insurance paid for BRCA but nothing has been offered past that. I would gladly play guinea pig to find the weak links and perhaps help my own biological daughter or my cousins. (My Mom's sister has BC and she has 2 daughters). My Grandmom had IBC. I knew that prostate and BC were on the same gene, but no idea colon or melanoma were in any way related. I'll ask again for my daughter's sake. Thanks for the heads up.
I just got a call, paracentesis tomorrow 8:45.. another day walking around with my "baby"...at 56. sigh.. I weighed myself and expected the wt to increase, nope lost 2.5 pounds.. sure isn't around my liver so tight. My girth increases and my weight goes down. All of this is not good. It's a great appetite buster... no room, full in an instant.
I am so thrilled with the Court decisions this week! I know don't talk politics, but health insurance stays and finally marriage is equally applied. I wonder if those opposed were told "ok we can't discriminate so no one can get married, no more benefits and goodies.. no one gets it." That would have been equally "fair." There would have been an uproar. I wish those getting government health insurance through medicare -which amounts to single payer system, would either not get it or they open it up to everyone who needs it. It's age discrimination. Heck most seniors I know are WAY better off then their kids who scramble to pay health premiums. The attitude of "I paid and You owe me.." isn't really true. We all pay for the generation ahead of us. My parents took out way more then they put in, of that I am SURE! Eventually we will go the way of the rest of the world and have universal health coverage. Most countries have it and it makes our products less competitive since health insurance must be factored into the price of goods and services in the US. It will happen, it makes economic sense. If you want more bells and whistles then pay for riders to up the coverage. I bet drug prices would drop too! No one get feathers ruffled since this is just my little old opinion.
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Aw Rose, I am frustrated for you and really soory you have to wait another day with pain and discomfort. No hope for a cancellation today? I do think that some health care providers need to go through a course of pain/suffering themselves so that they can empathize and show compassion. Sigh
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Amen. Lovely.
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I hear you! My results are in too and no one has called me. Why can't I just get a copy and read it myself? Waiting 5 days with this misery..I hardly listen as it is.. and always want to read it myself. I like to look at the images too. Pictures tell all.. especially if you can ask while the images are up. DH wil have to work at home tomorrow with DD to get her where she needs to go. Hopefully they can get something off and relieve pressure. The news won't be good.
I love the owl! Haha I have upset a few folks on the boards with my opinions. so I alway state them as just that - "my opinion!" No biggie.. no threat, no law or intimidation.. just a stinking opinion...one among billions. People should chill. I kind of like hearing what others have to say makes the world interesting and it explains folks' behavior.
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Patty, for some improvement with QOL. Men's needs are so different from ours (shh...unless you are Ms Sass). They will do anything to make us happy once their needs are met. I need to get away from the checklist mentality myself and just enjoy the gift given to me.
Ms Chevy, hoping for benign result for Rosie.
Hug to you Ms Blondie.
So I went out to my yard this morning and saw an army of ants busy working going somewhere. Then, I remember part of what Wren said about spraying salt water to keep them away. I gleefully ran back inside the house and prepared the "natural pesticides" ,so I thought. As I was preparing the concoction , I was thinking to myself " you guys are going to GET it" haha evil laugh. Ran back outside and started spraying AT them disrupting their perfect order of a line. WAIT???....how come they are running all over the place and none die?? Oh crap they all are heading towards MY HOUSE!!! Then, I remember the important piece--the solution is to help KEEP them away. Double crap!! I quickly sprayed the surrounding stucco and stamping at the ants at the same time. Hope none of my neighbors saw me. Genius I am. Mild ADD
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Thinking of you Rosie!
Isn't that a scream about Donald Trump running for President? I mean I don't know beans about Politics, but just SEEING him, and listing to that man with his EGO is just plain ridiculous~! And even better..... NBC cancelled his shows because of his racist remarks! This is as bizarre as the whole Kardashian family circus! It's like a 3-ring circus out there on the news! Or I mean the celebrities, who have no talent, other than filming their entire lives, and making mega-bucks DOING it!
Makes me think all the rest of us are "NORMAL...." !!!!!
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Rosie- saying a prayer for you.
Patty- full moon yoga yes. Naked yoga NO!
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Rosie, I really hope your prediction of the result is wrong. I wonder if the spider bites could have caused a chain reaction in your system and your pancreas is really mad.
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Healing thoughts for you Rose. As for the SCOTUS decision on gay marriage, I think it had more to do with the 14th Amendment:
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
As for genetics testing, Kaiser jumped on me to have it done given my family history. I had a consult with my BS, the Breast Care Coordinator and the genetic counselor set up for me before my doctor even called me with my biopsy results. My mother lost 5 or her 7 siblings to cancer. One aunt died at 49 of lung cancer w/ spine mets. Second had BC at 45 (same age as me) with a double mastectomy and developed pancreatic cancer 10 years later. Her MO said at the time that it was most likely that she was a heavy drinker and smoker but with recent research, I think it may have been mets BC. One uncle died of colon cancer at 61, another of complications from stomach cancer at 64. The first aunt smoked until 39 then quit. All the others were very heavy smokers and drinkers. Another aunt died of liver cancer at 79 but she had Hep C from a blood transfusion in the 80's and liver cancer is pretty typical and she didn't drink or smoke. I also had a great aunt that died in 1948 at age 37 from breast cancer. My mom had basal cell carcinoma 10 years ago. On my dad's side, dad was diagnosed with prostate cancer at 65 and with chronic lymphocytic leukemia at 72 (he's 77 now) and his brother was diagnosed with kidney cancer at 72 that he chose not to fight and passed last year at age 80 from kidney failure. Four of my dad's aunts and uncles also died of various cancers. My genetic testing was negative but science has only discovered around 20 genes so far with mutations. Kaiser will keep my DNA on file forever, even if I don't have them as an insurance any more, and they will notify me if new gene mutations are discovered. Personally, I think that in some cases in my family, it may come down to a gene switch where certain environmental factors or personal habits have activated a genetic mutation but research into gene switches is relatively new.
Chevy--when my hair started falling out a few weeks ago, I still had enough hair swirl it around and cover the bald spots ala The Donald but I chose to shave it rather than resemble him. I think his issue is that he has so much money, he thinks he can be an ass.
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Okay ladies, it is cocktail time! Greetings from Honolulu Sunburn!

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Jazzy, Shaken Sunset
Rosie, Hope the delivery goes smoothly.
Marley, I have a similar family history. All traced to paternal GM. Wrecked havoc on that side. I wanted to do the Color Genomic testing, but hit with lot's of bills
Loverly, Funny, but it's fun
. Thanks for your insight. Patty, any family allergies to chocolate of nuts?
Chevy glad the car is good
Schatzi has surgery Monday for a small leg tumor.
Sore, over did some muscles with out realizing they weren't in good shape
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I have to run out to have a birthday beer with a friend (tough job, but someone has to do it), but will share a funny story here when I can about the time way back when that I used to cocktail waitress and the one memorable evening someone ordered an orgasm......
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Sassy- was that you that had surgery or a pet?
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Jazzy -- Magical Chest Rub....sounds like a lymphedema massage.
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shaken coolie here. Man, 3 pages behind! All caught up. Yes, it's really that hot here. Was out in it earlier. Had to take GD home. She finished her quilt today. I'll get pic in a minute.
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Results as expected- large amount of free fluid in pelvis. Ascites, nodularity along omentum, may represent omental caking and carcinomatosis correlate with clinical findings. (ie; Paracentesis tomorrow and ultrasound and sending the fluid off to pathology... end results malignant ascites. Lobular cancer is known to metastasize to the gut.)
Couple of tiny 2mm and 3.4 nodules right lung. Some indeterminant 12mm hypodensity thing in the dome of the liver, could be a mets.. not sure. Extensive blastic skeletal metastases sternum, spine etc.. no news there. MRI- no intercranial mets, multiple calvarial mets.. yay Head aches who knows what is causing those since skull mets shouldn't cause head aches.
So the news is sucky. I have moved out of bone mets land to icky territory. The whole omentum thing is palliative. repeated taps and I guess surgery but it doesn't sound very promising and might bring more trouble then it's worth. Sigh.. I hope for multiple liters of fluid off tomorrow!
Thanks for the prayers and such. hugs back to ya!
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Popping in to say Hi. Have ITCHY HANDS and going to go chop them off. The neulasta pain has resolved but I think I washed my hands waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy tooooooooooooooooooooooo muuuuuuuuuuuuuuch.
Using monistat on my hands..first one that laughs is going to get it.
Rose, I am so sorry to see your news.
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she will be 10 in August. Going to miss her birthday. Can't wait until we leave for Ireland,their high for summer is 75-80. Sorry to Rose and Marlana, hope you have some better days soon. Patty, yeah the kids will be home.
Too hot to cook anything, we'll have salad for dinner, and ice cream. News just said its 107. AC has been running all day. Hope we don't have any rolling blackouts. Sure glad we put solar in. The electric bills were killing us on summer days.
Sassy, hope your pup is ok. Thought I was going to have to put Tinker down a couple of weeks ago. He had the bladder stones this past January. Vet said he didn't have any now, gave me pills to give him 3 times a day. Haha. I'm lucky if I get one down him. He's avoiding me touching him right now, so good luck with that!
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Frey-see if you can find a sunburn gel that has lidocaine in it. Solarcane has a spray, walmart has a nice aloe gel with it. Numbs stuff. I use it on bug bites, and PN in my feet.
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not laughing! Why Monistat? Isn't that for yeast infections? Oh! 😵. How do you get yeast on your hands? Never had one of those, knock on wood!
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We nurses do really silly things Smaarty. It is called look in the dag closet and see what ya got. I know it sounds silly but it is helping..Kind like the way Nystatin helps with thrush. The rash is getting better . If all goes well I will soak them in Summers Eve later tonight. I just have to figure out if I want to use Spring Meadows or go all out and use Fresh Scent.
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well, whatever works! Hope you're better fast
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Summer Mind-blower here.
Rosie - sucky news for sure. (((Hugs))) Hope procedure tomorrow gives you relief.
Smaarty - You're teaching GD young. Terrible heat you're having there. Sounds like something TX would have.
Frey - think it's just the cream base or the actual medication part of the Monistat? Like Smaarty, whatever works lol.
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Frey--what about oatmeal or apple cider vinegar? They're good for itch relief.
Rose--so sorry on the news. Hopefully the doc tomorrow can make you a little more comfortable.
Smaarty--beautiful quilt
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I loaded my hands up with bag balm. It is soothing. Going to try the apple cider vinegar tomorrow. Ty for the suggestions.

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Rosie i am sorry...what now big hugs
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