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  • PoppyK
    PoppyK Member Posts: 1,805
    edited June 2015

    Deborah, Your post had me laughing (and thinking this sounds like something I would do), until I got to the part about you falling and hitting the granite (then I knew it was something I would do). But seriously, take it easy and get to a doctor. Extreme pain is never a good thing. It may just take time and rest... muscle relaxers..

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited June 2015

    YIKES! I do hope you feel better, and that you did no lasting damage to your back, but the bruises might get really colorful! Good job on daring to use man tools. (kidding about man tools, I use them quite a bit myself). Mitering corners is not the easiest thing sometimes!

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited June 2015

    Boo to you, Ms. POPPYK!!! Your personality is as bright as the flower you call yourself! (I got to meet her at Slowdeepbreathes house, and off we went to meet the ladies in San Diego!) :)

  • PoppyK
    PoppyK Member Posts: 1,805
    edited June 2015

    Tomboy, I'm so glad I got to meet you live and in person, too!

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited June 2015


    DEborah,, hope you feel better soon. YIKES!  Sounds like quite a fall.

    How cool that some of you got to meet up!  NICE!!!

  • NativeMainer
    NativeMainer Member Posts: 10,462
    edited June 2015

    Deborah--OUCH!Glad you didn't hit or head, and hope the back pain is all muscular (it sounds like it is, sounds like you move just right and one of the upper back muscles goes into spasm, not an unusual thing to have happen after a fall like that).Nothing like a woman with power tools!

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited June 2015

    Deb2012,

    "No good deed goes unpunished"

    Oscar Wilde said that (although back then I doubt it was at his wedding.)

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited June 2015


    Deborah, how are you feeling today?   Hope you are doing better!!

  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited June 2015

    I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccccccckkkkkkkkkk! would someone give me cliff notes? I see we only need 10 more pages to hit 1000 pages before our 6th year anniversary. 6 weeks to type 10 pages. Cmon middies. we can do it.

    Moved into rental, got job, worked 1 week, gave notice, worked 1 more week, now 2 weeks off while I wait for the job I really wanted to put me the payroll. I just need to pass a vision and a hearing test--hope that's a piece of cake!

    Robert Plant was fabulous!!

    Eph

  • Deborah2012
    Deborah2012 Member Posts: 234
    edited June 2015

    Hi glennie19, Thanks for the good wishes. I have re-discovered the magnificence of Ibuprofen. Yes, I am doing the "I could've had a V8 self-smack to the forehead. It doesn't make the pain disappear completely, but is a marked improvement. I got good sleep and rest.

    Elimar, I always wondered to whom that saying was attributed. I have enjoyed some of Isaac Asimov's quotes: "If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them." ; "Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right.";

    Maybe to give Eph a boost, when we post we can add an optional quote we like or a joke to fill up space?



  • kyliet
    kyliet Member Posts: 687
    edited June 2015

    Darn, I changed from Aromasin back to Arimidex because of bad headaches. I have put on 8 kilos in 8 weeks :(

  • NativeMainer
    NativeMainer Member Posts: 10,462
    edited June 2015

    Eph--holy moly, you have been BUSY!!!!!I can't see you not passing the vision and hearing tests.New job, new digs, WTG, lady!

    Kyliet--Hope the arimidex treats you more kindly than the aromasin.Are you getting close to the end of the 5 year of hormonal therapy?My last year or so was the worst, buta few months after getting done I felt a lot more like my pre-treatment self again.It will get better once that part is done!

    When a man tells you that he got rich through hard work, ask him: 'Whose?'

    Don Marquis (1878 - 1937)


  • kyliet
    kyliet Member Posts: 687
    edited June 2015

    Nativemainer, nope I am not even up to 3 years and have been told I get to do 10, yay.... only do zoladex for 5 though.

    Eph I hope your tests go well.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited July 2015


    Eph!!  Welcome back!!  You have been busy. In your pocket for the vision and hearing test!  You can do it!!  Glad to hear you had a blast at Robert Plant.

     

    Great quotes!

  • NativeMainer
    NativeMainer Member Posts: 10,462
    edited July 2015

    Kyliet--oops, I guess I'm behind the times.I knew there was research on 10 years vs 5 years of hormonal therapy, didn't know it was now the standard of care.I would not have been able to deal with 10 years of hot flashes and joint aching and stiffness.You area lot stronger than me!

    We gain strength, and courage, and confidence by each experience in which we really stop to look fear in the face... we must do that which we think we cannot.

    Eleanor Roosevelt

  • Loral
    Loral Member Posts: 932
    edited July 2015
  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited July 2015

    I am not sure 10 years IS the standard of care. I think they are only telling some women that, but i am surprised they are telling that to the lower stage peeps. They really don't have all the data on what 10 years does to your bones and brain and cholesterol etc. So they did just last visit, tell me 10 years too. But I don't think so. they really don't have much data on the negative events. i am always a little pissed off (if there is such a thing) when I tell one of my docs about one of my adverse events, and they say "oh we've never heard of THAT before"!!! That led me to surmise that they are severely under reporting just how often these incidences are had by us. Skewing the numbers and outright lying about these things, yeah, really makes me want to scream.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited July 2015

    Tomboy - Right On. SEVERELY under reporting is waaaaaay too mild. I live by one of the world's major medical centers and most docs here still have the same answer about lymphadema and neuropathy - "oh that really isn't an issue since it happens so rarely". BUNK!! I would have liked to have them acknowledge that neither of those issues are minor, and they do happen much more frequently than the medical community admits or reports. Think of all the women who don't do research and have no idea there are steps they can take - unfortunately not to reverse or cure these issue once you're got them, but to learn & treat.

    BTW - I received a bunch of paperwork from UCLA school of Public Health to participate in a study about how docs are reporting things. It didn't appear that I met the criteria at first look so I shredded them, but I got a call yesterday that they've expanded some of the parameters. Apparently they didn't get enough responses. I agreed to take another look. The study is apparently being conducted in California & Texas. I'll report more later if this study addresses the the under-reporting issue.

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited July 2015

    Minus, that's awesome. I would like to know more about that study. I am participating in the WHIP study, at least i think I am. I did fill out the first questionnaire part, and I did get the phone call, and they did even send me the transcript of the phone call. But I had thought that that was something that I was supposed to do twice a year, I could be wrong. It's a study about women and the persistence of hormonal treatment. But I haven't heard anything back from them in a long time, but I have there # somewhere, its being conducted at a university back east. But I would really like to be part of the study you talked about too. Hammy, I wonder why they didn't think you met the criteria at first, being as you are not the doctor who is under reporting!

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited July 2015

    My computer is the one who said "hammy", not me. I said 'Hmmmm'.

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited July 2015

    Thanks Loral for the wed. wish. What a colorful poster!

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited July 2015

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    Who you callin' Hammy?

    Hmmmm? Wonder if it will change "Mmmmm" to Mammy?

    That would make an interesting study. My MO never asked me a question about neuropathy once chemo was finished. I have to lead that discussion. There seems to be a distinct lack of interest in many of the long lasting effects.

  • Deborah2012
    Deborah2012 Member Posts: 234
    edited July 2015

    Okay middies, here's to the page total. My life is like one big hilarious Seinfeld episode.

    A few years ago, I'm in Berkeley visiting DD & DS -both were UCB students at same time. I'm to sleep overnight at DD's apt. She'll be sleeping in the City at her boyfriend's place that night. I'll have the place to myself. On short notice, her dad decides that he and DD's step-mom want to meet DD's boyfriend. The night they are available is the night I'm to stay at DD's place. Dad wants to take them to dinner. Naturally, Dad and his wife want to see DD's new apt.for the first time.

    DD and I decide that it would be a great idea if I made sure I went to her apt. AFTER they leave for the restaurant when picking her up at her new place. We decide that 7 p.m. is the earliest time I'd arrive so we can all avoid each other. Dad doesn't even know that I was in Berkeley visiting the kids. DS can't attend dinner due to a previous commitment. DD is to text me when they've left. Any potential unpleasantries when meeting BF for first time can be avoided- a simple and practical plan.

    DD fails to text me. I arrive at her apt. after 9 p.m. I smell gas in the apt. complex hallway outside of her door. I recall that weeks earlier PG & E had to go to her apt. because her gas stove had a leak. The smell is strong. I open her door and I see that she has failed to disable the alarm as she had promised she would do! I don't know her combination. The gas leak is coming form her stove! I realize that in 20 seconds her alarm is going to go into a deafening siren scream mode. I can't open the windows to let the gas out because that is going to trigger that alarm too! I'm literally standing there thinking not only am I going to be gassed, but I have to decide what I should do first. Somehow disable the alarm? Light the stove? (and blow the place up without the windows open)? The siren goes off. Go!

    I detach the alarm from the mounting and set about trying to disarm it. I am trying to suffocate it under the bed pillows because the noise is paralyzing. It hardly muffles it. I try to rip out the batteries. There are the teeny tiniest little screws to unscrew to remove the batteries. At this point, I open the windows 'cuz the gas is super strong. The alarm goes into a cycle function. Silent for 15 seconds, then resumes ear piercing noise. Frantically, I am looking for her tool box. DS calls me in the middle of this to inform me that he is violently ill and I might need to pick him up at his apt. take him to an urgent care! I say I can't talk right now I'll call him when I can kill the blasted alarm.

    I call DD. No response. I find her tool box. During multiple 15 second interludes of quiet and suffocating under pillow, I disable the device and re-light the pilot lights on her stove. I call DS. I bring him drug store remedies. He waits until next day for doc visit. This happened because of my nice gesture of buying the alarm system, DD's boyfriend installing it and just trying to avoid having all of us wind up in DD's apt. at the same moment when meeting her boyfriend for the first time!

  • PoppyK
    PoppyK Member Posts: 1,805
    edited July 2015

    Deborah, Bwwaaaaahaaaaa! I think it is a cross between Seinfeld and I Love Lucy!

    Regarding lymphedema/neuropathy: I've been very fortunate. My MO was concerned with all of my SE, even the ones I told her were no big deal to me, or minor. She documented every one of them. When I brought up concerns about lymphedema and limited range of motion, she referred me to the medical center's lymphedema specialist/therapist, who I saw yesterday. It's disappointing that there is such a difference in the care we receive.

  • NativeMainer
    NativeMainer Member Posts: 10,462
    edited July 2015

    Deborah--holy moly what an alarming experience!

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited July 2015

    Deb2012, So glad there was no ka-boom at the end of your story, making it possible to look back an laugh now. I had I Love Lucy in my mind too when I thought of you smothering the siren blasts with a pillow.

    Speaking of ka-boom, hope you all have a great July 4th weekend planned.

    But before we get to the 4th...well, Eph may have quit the wildfire job but I know for a fact that she'll still spot one blaze real soon--on top of a cake. Have a good one, Eph!

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  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited July 2015

    Besides the often heard reference to BC, the reason I have the Cyclone up at the top is because I always find the time on July 4th to catch the Nathan's hot dog eating competition at Coney Island. In the men's competition, they usually eat 60+ hot dogs in ten minutes. It's disgusting and fascinating at the same time. Personally, I think the winner should have to ride the Cyclone afterward.

    Ooops! My sadistic streak is showing.

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    Joey Chestnut, the defending 8-time champ ate 69 record-setting dogs in 2013 (but only 61 last year.) That's all you need to know.

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited July 2015

    Love the cyclone, and PopK, I want YOUR doctors!

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited July 2015

    So so we have until August 22 to get the extra pages? Or did I misunderstand?

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited July 2015


    Aug 22 is the anniversary of this thread.

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