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  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    and Theresa, yes I did feel like your twin when that happened yesterday. I just put coconut oil everywhere there was a place to. Nuff said haha. I will be ok now.

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited April 2015

    just no anal waxing, Katy! Hang tough today, girlie!

  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 718
    edited April 2015

    lmfao. I don't have any hair left down there!

    Katy So Pleased You Can See The Glow.

    I'm still in hospital, they have me booked in for a spinal tap today. Yesterday I messaged Andrew to pick me up and bring my pain drugs as I was in so much pain and the hospital couldn't get on top of it. He brought them in and spoke to the nurses who were also feeling frustrated. They rang the Dr who approved the drugs Andrew brought in. They gave me some relief. A different MO along with my MO came to see me. They had spoken to the neurologist who wants to do the spinal tap. They also agreed for me to try a different drug. Apparently it's very strong, once a day drug that does something to the nerves. I'll find out more about what it does later.

    Anyway. The upshot is that it seems to have worked. Because I don't have a headache right now!!! Hopefully they won't need to do the spinal tap now. Although the neurologist is worried because my white cell count is through the roof. The MO isn't worried about it though.

    Diane, yes the migraines may be hormonal. My mums migraines stopped after menopause. I haven't hit it, although I haven't had my period since chemo.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    oh Shaz! So relieved you finally have some relief. I hope they don't find it necessary to do the spinal tap now. But you gotta do what they recommend. I think I want to give Andrew a big hug. Will you tell him? You are so precious to us and it gives me such relief to know that what you're now seeing is the light at the end of the tunnel and not another oncoming train!

    Much love and (((hugs)))

    Katy

  • DavisD
    DavisD Member Posts: 338
    edited April 2015

    Katy I'm still worried you are running a low grade fever. It has to mean something?? I understand not wanting to leave Jack and the comfort of your home but I wish you'd put in a call to him, maybe late afternoon? I just worry about all the little pieces coming together and becoming a bigger problem. Sorry for worrying so much, my kids tell me all the time I'm a worrier. Please remember how much you are loved and needed just by being who you are. I would give anything to lift you now and I haven't given up thinking of ways! For now a big warm hug your way-

    Carrie-I was just thinking of the same thing, a couple friends that have virtually disappeared since I started chemo. One is a 15 yr BC survivor and she had told me she could handle walking with me through anything but  not the chemo. She has such horrible memories of what she went through and she swore she wouldn't be going through it again. She's also been avoiding mammograms because she's afraid so I understand to a degree....the other friend who btw made me promise to never leave her in the dark if my cancer came back following the death of her college roommate to BC. When I told her she said something like "I just don't think I can handle this now" and of course I said "no problem I understand" but it hurt. She called a couple weeks ago to get info and I think to say she called because nothing since.

     I don't know what I'd do without everyone of you from this thread. You fill a huge void in my life right now. I had a dream that my mother was alive and just as I remembered her the other night. It was a sweet dream and so vivid. Maybe she is with me somewhere?

    waychris-As you can tell this is a very unique and super supportive bunch of ladies. We welcome you in with open arms. Because we are so chatty it's hard to address all of everyone's concerns so if you have a need and it doesn't get addressed right away, keep trying...we all are battling our own SE's and lives in general. I think you'll be glad you did. Also if you want to share your first name, many of us did that some time ago and it feels more personal.  I'm Diane

  • DavisD
    DavisD Member Posts: 338
    edited April 2015

    Sharon-I'm so glad Andrew brought your meds but think it shouldn't have been necessary...If you have to have the spinal tap don't let the words scare you. As long as it's someone very experienced doing it you should be fine. I had it done for this autoimmune stuff but mine was ultra sound guided so very precise. I guess it hurts when they miss the mark or something like that.. Just wanted you to know I'm thinking of you today as always. I hope they get to the bottom of this. Any chance something in your home could be triggering the headaches?

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Diane- I know she is there with you.

    It is so hurtful how friends "put in an appearance" then disappear. You find out who your real friends are but humans are frail. We are weak. Far from perfect. I try not to blame them but I feel cancer has made me very selfish and there is NO ROOM AT THE INN for those who aren't in for the pound.

    My temp is holding steady at 99.9. I guess I'm going to call the after hours line now. It wouldn't take much to spike it into the danger zone so i might as well give them a chance to do their job.

    Will update for sure.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    update- sitting in the ER. Finally convinced to call MO who didn't like the sound of things. Getting white count checked. If low they admit me. They are busy. Got me s mask and are letting me wait in the empty lab waiting room. ;-

  • Karen30
    Karen30 Member Posts: 135
    edited April 2015

    Keep us posted- I know waiting is the pits but I do feel better knowing you are being seen - praying WC is ok

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    Oh, god, Katy. I am sorry. I hope you don't have to be admitted.

    Sharon: What is the purpose of the spinal tap?

    Diane: I sometimes dream my father is alive. It's so nice to see your long lost relatives sometimes in your dreams.


  • wpmoon
    wpmoon Member Posts: 270
    edited April 2015

    Katy - keep us posted on how you're doing! You have us all very worried about you. I wish I were closer so I could help out with Jack.


    I know what you all mean about losing friends - my best friend and I have lost touch over the last few months since my diagnosis. It's disheartening and sad to say the least, but some people just can't handle the realities of life. It's not always pretty.

    My heart also goes out to everyone who has been enduring tough times lately. Life hasn't spared me, either, but we're all survivors. We can get through everything that's thrown our way, I just know it. Especially because we have each other.


    I'm feeling much better after Friday morning's water barf. It was a one time thing... luckily, it hasn't happened again and my appetite has been fine. Not really sure why it happened though. I'm feeling okay after last weeks chemo - just having a hard time drinking enough water daily, and the bone/joint pain is no joke. I ache all over. I also can't get a good nights sleep in. So ready for this to be over, but I have a long road ahead of me...

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    WP: I am glad you are doing a little better. Are you able to take anything to help you sleep?

    I keep meaning to ask this but I keep forgetting. What is the purpose to the steroids? Are you ladies who are on a weekly schedule taking them every week or all the time? I think I only take them for a couple of days after the spa.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    WP- I know Jack would love you! Glad you are making a bit of a comeback.

    I've just been triaged, they are leaning towards admitting. Maybe I'll still get lucky. This hospital, where I had my bmx in Dec has only private rooms. They are making every effort to keep the cooties away.

    Trvler I get steroids like you, night before, morning before, in the bag and a few days after. My understanding is it helps with nausea mostly.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    And Katy, do you go to the spa weekly or biweekly?

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    Trying not to think about the sharp pains in my cancer breast on the OTHER side of the breast.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Trvler I go every 3 weeks, TC x 6

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited April 2015

    Steroids are anti-nausea meds, also one of the reasons they are often included in the extra fluids given in the couple days following tx if needed.  They also help with allergic reaction - just like steroids given when you have a rash or poison ivy, etc. Interestingly, sometimes they are a catch-22 though, and can cause swelling - ask me how I know this, lol!  Some docs will eliminate them from weekly infusions because the dose is smaller - same reason Neulasta is usually eliminated for weekly dosing - it does not usually have the same impact as dose dense or 21 day dosing.  Also, for some Taxol does not cause nearly the degree of nausea as Adriamycin. 

    For those who have to go to the ER during chemo (Katy - sorry you are there!) protocol is to isolate you - do NOT let them leave you in a crowded waiting room, and please play the cancer card. 

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    Thanks, Special k for the info. Do more people tend to have an allergic reaction to Taxol? I am kind of scared to start reading about yet. I don't start until May 19.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited April 2015

    trvler - taxanes can cause allergic reaction, sometimes systemic, but often in the form of rashes - which are common with Taxol and Taxotere, not sure about Abraxane.  Usually they will infuse your first Taxol slowly, but sometimes increase the rate on subsequent tx if you have no problems.  The typical SE from taxanes also include bone pain and neuropathy.  Weekly infusions seem to cause less of this because the dose is smaller, but you can have cumulative issues toward the end of your tx.  I took a cap of B6 and 30g of powdered L-Glutamine during my six Taxotere (every 21 days) in 10g doses 3xdaily dissolved in a cold drink, and had neuropathy by the mid-point, but it resolved completely by about 90 days PFC. Generally, Taxol is considered the milder of the AC-T regimen - but people react to these drugs very individually.  Also, if you are not Her2+ and receiving concurrent targeted therapy, Taxol is given by itself rather than in a drug combo, so that is easier on most people. 

  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 718
    edited April 2015

    Trvlr, they want to test the fluid for signs of infection. I think it will also release some of the pressure around my brain.

    Katy. I am glad you rang and that you've put on your big girl pants and gone to ER. I know it's a pain, but at least you'll have some answers.

    Diane. I don't think so as I've had them everyday in hospital too.

  • BBwithBC45
    BBwithBC45 Member Posts: 727
    edited April 2015

    Trvler - I'm on weekly Taxol with Herceptin and I get steroids in IV before Taxol, each time

  • slothabouttown
    slothabouttown Member Posts: 449
    edited April 2015

    Okay March team! It seems like a lot of us are hitting the middle of our treatment, and this weekend in particular has been hard for some. Others have been quiet, hoping that's because they're out having a fantastic weekend. Whatever end of the SE spectrum you're finding yourself on this weekend, just take a second and look how far we've come through the tunnel, I think there's a light at the end !

    I had a college friend visit from San Francisco this weekend. She's been through chemo and understood when I had to call it an early evening last night. I think it sucks that so many friends are making themselves scarce around you all, and I think you're right, it's all about fear. Even for women who've been through this, being around us can bring up a lot of feelings. I'm looking forward to getting past this time where I'm "the friend with cancer" and can go back to being the friend who can stay out past 8 on a Saturday night!

  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 718
    edited April 2015

    Well said slothabouttown! We do need to celebrate how far we've come together! Well done ladies.

    We've got this!

    I agree it's fear based. I get told all the time how they don't want to intrude!

  • DavisD
    DavisD Member Posts: 338
    edited April 2015

    Thanks for putting our "journey" in perspective slothaboutown. We have come a long way and it really has only been since March! We have shared more than many friends share in a lifetime!

    Sharon-I'm heard of releaving fluid in this way and hope it helps you. I do remember they told me I MUST drink lots of water following the tap to avoid problems and I think lay flat? When and are you still scheduled for this procedure?

    Katy-I'm so glad you called even though I know it sucks being at the hospital. I swear if I were only a few hours away I would come to take care of Jack. I'm sure you have someone looking in on him and possibly they could dress him in his therapy dog sweater and taking him to see you if you are admitted..hee hee!? I will feel much better knowing you are being looked after and this thing doesn't get out of hand tonight. You are too preccious to us all.

  • so-she-did
    so-she-did Member Posts: 202
    edited April 2015

    Holy Shit Sandwich, Batman!

    I'm away for a few days while a friend visited and our poor group has experienced losses, illnesses, accidents, and hospitalizations. I wrap my arms around you all and am sending physical and emotional healing vibes out there into the universe for you.

    Sloth - I am grateful for your post and the lift it has provided in the midst of this tough time. The mid-point of anything difficult is when it is easy to get lost in it and forget there will be an end. You also pinpointed something I had been feeling since my friend came into town - that feeling of being "the friend with cancer". She was supportive and so were all the other friends we visited with but I always had that feeling. Especially when we couldn't meet up with one of them because she was just getting over bronchitis and I didn't dare go near her.

    I had a good time with the visit but am exhausted! I was surprised and a little disappointed that she didn't offer to help out with anything at all. Not that I was expecting her to take care of me, but still... I really wasn't in any shape to take care of all meals,, host our other friends for lunch, clean up meals, etc. without a little help. I am so glad I have a safe place I can say that out loud. I feel selfish but I need to say it.

    Tonight I am allowing myself to be lazy and await my husband's delayed flight. The house is a mess but I will catch up with laundry and all that other crap tomorrow. I'm in the middle of a marathon of Naked and Afraid. Have any of you watched this?! Pretty strange but in a way that you can't tear your eyes away. The girls are happily playing "jungle" outside after watching part of an episode - hahaha!

  • IndyGal35
    IndyGal35 Member Posts: 340
    edited April 2015

    DH and I watch that sometimes. Since starting chemo, I've also started watching Hell's Kitchen. I don't know if it's because I miss my tastebuds or because watching Chef Ramsey yell at people makes me feel better about my current hardships, but I'll always think of it as a "chemo show" from now on.

    It IS wonderful to be nearing the halfway point!!! I feel like we should get a trophy or something. (Maybe I'll find one for the charm bracelet!) I get dose 3 of 6 on Tuesday. There's something about the little milestones that make it more endurable. 9 weeks (65 days) until my last dose. Each course of treatment has its own woes, but I'll be particularly glad when chemo is a faint memory.

    Glad you are getting relief, Sharon, and I hope you don't need the spinal tap after all. Katy, hoping your counts are beautiful so there are no delays. I'm hoping you can both be released very soon. Please update as soon as you are able.

    Big hugs from the Circle City tonight!

  • slothabouttown
    slothabouttown Member Posts: 449
    edited April 2015

    I found the "naked and afraid" season one on Amazon. Sounds like more fun than "bald and exhausted" so I'm gonna give it a watch. Thanks for the suggestion, I find these kinds of quirky reality shows to be just the ticket for escaping this reality.

  • Carrie37
    Carrie37 Member Posts: 331
    edited April 2015

    Thanks for the info SpecialK. My MO agreed to lower my steroids dose after round 2. I couldn't stand the way they made me feel and I've had my share of steroids since I have asthma. They are much stronger than what I'm used to.

  • Carrie37
    Carrie37 Member Posts: 331
    edited April 2015

    LOL Sloth! Bald and Exhausted! Ha!! That's great! That's for the giggle and smile.

  • DavisD
    DavisD Member Posts: 338
    edited April 2015

    Amy-I'd say you do deserve to relax after all that! This is where I wish we could just swoop in and take care of each other...I would have helped you prepare, serve, clean up or whatever you needed and not thought twice about it. Some people just don't think..Oh and I agree with Naked and Afraid ha!

    Indy Gal-I agree with the halfway point and love the idea of a trophy charm for the bracelet! I ordered the little bed Katy always made up for me to put on as well...it says "Sweet Dreams" on the bed, very cute. I'm following right behind you with my halfway point one week from Tuesday. I wish you the best in case I'm too worn out to get on this thread Monday. Hang tight!

    Sloth-I think I've seen no I think I've been in that one, Bald and Exhausted ha ha!


     

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