April & May 2015 Surgery Sisters
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Hope everyone is doing well. I have to say first shower felt good and the second one was wonderful. I was able to manage by myself today, gotta keep my independence going, but man both days I needed a nap afterwards. Pain management is with Advil. As of now the drain sites are where the pain is at from time to time. Keep waiting for the rest to rear it's ugly head. I will say most of my worries have been for nothing. The numbness underneath the armpit can drive ya a little crazy, hope this lessens some over time.
Have a wonderful uneventful weekend all, we got this!!.🌈
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sounds like you are doing great, outdoors woman!
I am four days out from surgery and doing better each day. Still managing pain with Percocet though. I just got the call from my surgeons nurse with the pathology reports. I did not get the complete pathologic response I prayed for. The mass they removed was 1.9 cm and tested positive for invasive ductal. That is quite a bit larger than thelast MRI showed six weeks ago. I am not sure what to think
. Despite all the reassurances, I believe I was right to be concerned about the eight week delay between chemo ending and surgery. I have a follow up with the surgeon on Tuesday. I'll be able to ask questions then. All margins were clear and the lymph node confirmed negative. All clear in my left breast. Feeling a bit down
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Patty, hang in there and prayers to you!
Metta, you will not be able to cook dinner for several days! So, hubby will have to get carry out or cook for you! Good luck with surgery and meals! Men could NEVER do this! When my surgeon said "why can't you do .............," I said, "I just cannot!" "I will, just not right now!"
Prayers to all.
Lynn
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Diagnosed 4/16/15
Surgery scheduled 4/30/15
Left mastectomy / lymph nodes with delayed reconstruction
Currently have DVT, so Lovenox shots replace Xeralto for 1-2 weeks.
I went to Iraq and back, I can do this.
51 yo Soldier,
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Mommy of 2
How bout dinner for the next week or so......his choice...carry out... or tomato soup and grilled cheese..the ultimate comfort food!!! Blessings!!
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Going to make a couple of things over the weekend to help with the first couple of days after surgery so I won't have to cook unless I feel up to it.
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Thanks for encouragement, Redporchlady, I am trying to give myself permission to forget about work after my surgery & just concentrate on recovery. How soon after surgery did you walk around house or outside?
Dtorrent, so happy to hear that your drains are out after 8 days. My plastic surgeon's office just blithely told me that it could be as long as 3 weeks. Can't imagine but I'll handle whatever comes.
Lynn, you sound so much better! But you're scaring me -- you haven't used your arms for a week? How do you wash your face? I'm afraid that this could be too much for my sister. She's not a nurse & I don't want her to relive memories of our mom's ovarian cancer when my sister was only 14. I pray that I have enough strength to get myself back & forth to the toilet.
Love & best wishes to all of you,
Jean
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mysunshine48, I am sorry to hear about the crapload of awful events that you have experienced. I wish I could send a rainbow your way.
dtorrent, I am definitely dreading the drains, so that's great that you are free of them. Hoping for a <18 score for you. Do you have the breakdown on your grade? You are just 1 point over grade 1. Tubule formation is a less indicative of prognosis than mitotic count or nuclear pleomorphism, so if you had less tubule formation (higher score) driving up your overall score (3 in this case), then you have an increased chance of <18. Good luck and let us know.
Outdoorswoman, it sounds like you are doing great. There isn't going to be any ugly head rearing itself!
patty101014, sorry to hear that you did not get the PCR for which you were hoping. Still, it's great news that your node was negative and margins clean. Hope all goes well at your f/u on Tues.
Welcome, BassFishinGal, you're just squeaking through as an April Surgery Sister! You definitely have the fortitude to get you through this. I am Canadian, but express my gratitude to you for defending freedom. Good luck treating the DVT.
bbbbun, how are you making out?
M0mmyof2, you shouldn't have to cook. After you get these make ahead meals frozen this weekend, it's time for your husband to pamper you! Did you cook after your BMX and TE placement? I guess if you managed for that, this should be much easier. If you haven't done so already, don't tell him that your PS said this one will be a cakewalk compared to the last.
Everyone, enjoy your weekend!
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When I had the other two surgeries, I was cooking by the second day after. The first day, he had gotten KFC or Popeye's for dinner for us. He just wants me to be able to relax and be comfortable after the surgery. He was there when my PS told him that this one was going to be much easier. He said he is going to help with the housework that will require me to lift and tug until the PS gives me clearance to do so.
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Jean, I do not mean to scare you. I had a BMX with TE and two lymph nodes removed. I was able to rub a wash cloth on my face on about day 3, with my left arm - slowly, but not with my arm that had the nodes removed. Today is one week, and I probably could raise my arm on that side to wash my face, but I have read so much about lymphadema and I DO NOT want that. Once you get it, you have it forever. Read some forums on here about using arms after surgery. I have been walking around the house more today as my back hurts when I sit in my recliner too long. However, a week makes a huge difference. I can now sit down on the toilet, but not get up. Same with the chair. A higher chair works best, and I have a bar stool by the bathroom sink. Today, I put toothpaste on my toothbrush and brushed my teeth with my left hand. Maybe you will do better, but I was lifting 40 lb. weights and working out right up to surgery. My sister is not a nurse either. I have walked a a little more each day. I just do not want to overdue it. You can do this
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hello April surgery girls! I just thought I'd drop in with my encouragement but I see you are doing amazing. I was diagnosed 12/15, had dmx 12/18. I went home to an empty house. I'd just moved in to a new house in a new town six weeks before dx. I didn't know a soul. Closest family was 400 miles away, but flight was canceled and just couldn't get it rescheduled.
I'm only mentioning this because I'm 90 day + and still struggling with pain. I think because I was alone and in a lot of pain I healed much slower and I'm 58.
The good new is this. Even if you recover more slowly than some of the superstars, you will get through it. It might take a little longer. You might have other tragic things like Sunshine going on in your lives that make your recovery different. Don't feel bad if that happens. I unfortunately didn't find this site until I started chemo in March but it has been a lifesaver. Loveeach other and support each other.
Wishing you all the best from "almost" the other side.
Many hugs, evenly distributed.
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Hi Jackie, nice to see you on April Sister's month. I am 66, but am recovering slowly from surgery - today is day 8 post surgery. I am sleeping in my recliner, and find early morning the most painful - where lymph nodes were removed. But, after an hour, I am OK. Off all pain meds. I guess, chemo is coming. But, I see all you brave women getting through it, and I will too. Bless you. Have a SE and pain free day.
Lynn
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Good morning to all. Thanks especially to Katy & Lynn for being so honest but gentle with answers to my questions. I can feel my anxiety level rising as the surgery day approaches (now only 6 days away). I was emptying the dishwasher today and got tearful thinking of all the routine things I will not be able to do. My 30 pound terrier needed a boost to the couch to sit with me. That's not going to be possible for months. Lynn, if you were working out with 40 pound weights, you are much more fit than I am. I haven't read much about lymphedma but it sounds like something to definitely avoid so I will follow your lead and not use my arms. Do you keep them straight down by your sides or bent at the elbows? Katy, I pray for your recovery. Like you, I moved to new town, new house, new job at beginning of the year. I felt like I could do anything. Now this. Luckily I moved closer to family. But I feel like I'm expecting a lot from my sister & wish I could do this alone. After hearing your story, I know that I must accept help. I will heal faster. Thankfully, I will not need chemo or radiation so I am more fortunate than many of my brave surgery sisters. I just need to get thru surgery and recovery with some grace. Seems like a tall order right now but with help, I will do it. Thanks for the inspiration of your experiences & stories. That goes to everyone on this topic -- you are my heroes. Thanks & be well today. God bless,
Jean
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Evelynsfirst- it doesn't matter if you use your arms or not. I have been struggling with Lymphedema for almost 3 years. I wear a compression sleeve 7 days a week. Since surgery on Thursday I haven't taken mine off. There isn't anything you can do to prevent LE. I never thought I would get it especially having only one lympnode removed. I've hward of women having 20 removed and not having any issues. It all depends on your lymph system. I would kill to have 100% use of both arms.
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Thanks for your reply, Chrisrenee77. I'm so sorry for your suffering w/ lymphedma. I'll just resolve to take the best care of myself that I can and realize that some things (like my lymph system) are outside of my control. I'll deal with what comes. Take care of yourself,
Jean
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My sunshine & hockeygoddess, that's fantastic news! And dtorrent I was so happy to see your post and know you got through the worst on just a week. I was healthy and 42 and technically breezed through chemo health wise, although it was hellish. It's just hard to go from healthy and athletic to bam, cancer patient. But as we all have learned, people get through it. Women are tough cookies.
My BMX was yesterday, and I'm home from the hospital, albeit sore and tired, today. Good news is that they took seven nodes out, and all were cancer-free! (No axillary dissection for me, even though I was node positive before chemo, so I will drop out of the trial.) I must say the SNB injection was more painful than I expected. The techs said I did great and thanked me for not hitting them, as the older ladies have done. Ha! I cried during the quiet times yesterday, but I tried to be brave. I walked into the OR, and just when I started to get nervous, the anesthesia kicked in.
I'm glad it's over with, and my husband was there all day and was kind and loving. Ihave this to share: get someone to help you with wound care. You have to change the gauze and put on bacitracin. Eek, I'm not sure I can do it myself. The drains are gross and bulky, so someone should help you at first because your arms are weak. But you can go to the bathroom, you can wipe yourself, don't worry.
For nerves I highly recommend buying a guided mediation called "Meditations to Promote Successful surgery" by Belleruth Napersak (iTunes sells it). It helped me so much ... She says to picture the OR filled with "a magical band of allies, guardian angels, from your past and present," a cheering squad. It was just what I needed.
Thank you for all your well wishes, guys. Don't know what I'd do without you.
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Metta, Congratulation on becoming part of the brave team and getting through surgery! It is so good to have that part over. And, yea, clear nodes! Now, try to not do much and start recovery. I felt better today and overdid it. Now, I know to not push it.
Jean, google Lymphodema and find a reliable source about what you can and cannot do. I know some women just "get it" and have to wear a sleeve forever. I am bing super careful not to pull, push or lift anything over 5 pounds with my arm that had lymph nodes removed. I was told by my nurse navigator not to lift heavy grocery bags, try to pull open a heavy door, wear a shoulder bag on that shoulder....things like that. I have a 15 pound cat who sometimes needs help, but I am figuring out different ways to get her on the bed. (She is old). I also was told to wear a compression sleeve if I traveled by air in the next year. I will. Put it on under a shirt at the beginning of the flight and take it off at the end. I will call it insurance.
You will do fine, but, oh, how I realize, as many others do, waiting is the worst! I will pray that you get this over and onto recovery with peace. 💜
Lynn
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Hello my lovelies. Wishing all peace in recovery and peace in anticipation.
I have a question regarding recliners. Is it feasible to reach for the switch on the side of power recliners? I have room for a reclining love seat but they all have the power switch just on the side. I will have BMX and SNB on right side too. That's the side I would be sitting on. I don't like the chair recliners with remote as most of them are also lift chairs and thank God I'm not in need of that, yet.
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Hi Ladies
AudreyB - i bought a recliner with the power switch in the arm. have to admit that when it is in full recline i can not reach without moving. but luckily i find a little less than full recline comfortable haha.
plus i am a lot more mobile and able than i expected, mine was right side. now 12 days out from surgery its exercise !!!!
metta - good news on the nodes
mysunshine - yes, yes, i too over did it yesterday and felt all stiff and tingly today, lesson learned..
have a good evening All , and sleep well !!
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Just throwing my two cents in on the subject of Lymphedema. I had a mild case of it when I had my first SNB in 2008. It isn't just the straining of the arm or the weight that can get the swelling started. It can be from repetitive motion with the arm. Repetitive motion like sweeping, mopping, vacuuming, painting a room, and swinging your arms while going on a brisk walk, caused swelling when I neglected to do it in short intervals. At about 10-15 minutes is when I would start to see and feel the swelling. I know this is the Surgery Sisters thread so I won't go into any more detail.
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Thank you all so much, those were some encouraging words of advice, the closer my day gets (04/23) the more nervous I get! but as long as I stayed prayed up I think I will be ok!
How can I find some support groups in Lithonia Georgia? I love this forum but I would like to sit down and talk to others face to face.
That doesn't mean i'm giving up you ladies, I need yall! ☺
Thanx in advance! ♥
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patty101014 - Sorry about not getting a PCR but at least the lymph node confirmed negative! Will you be meeting with your ONC again or radiation ONC to discuss next steps?
Lynn - you are so right that Men could NEVER do this! LOL Although my husband has been wonderful this last 6 1/2 months and done all the shopping, cleaning and cooking he said he could not have handled the chemo and surgery like I did. Gotta love them!
BassFishinGal - you an do this and thanks for serving for our country!
evelynsfirstborn - I took a walk outside 3 days after surgery outside but just did not swing my arms. It felt so good. Remember about giving your self permission that your health is #1 right now. I am going into work for a few hours tomorrow even though I have the drain in but I think I will be getting it out soon because the output has reached their guideline so I may be making a trip to the cancer center. I was told by my surgeon with the ALND that I have a 50% chance of lymphadema and if I don't have to have radiation to that site it drops to 20%. Since I got a PCR I will not have to have radiation. He also said that I have good odds because I am not overweight but did say that there are no guarantees of not getting it. I am glad my cancer center has a separate department dedicated to this so I will learn about prevention and detection.
mysunshine48 & Jean - I had a complete ALND under my left arm and I agree I could wash my face right away and my surgeon said it was ok to raise my arm to reach for a cup or wash my bald head..lol (which doesn't take much) Just nothing repetitive. However I called and said it hurt and did not want to push it because of lymphadema. She asked what my drain output was doing and then they had me backoff for this weekend and just relax. My drain output now has dropped and once the drain is removed I can start the excercises. Plus for precaution I already have an appointment with the lymphadema clinic on April 29th.
Jackibirdie - Sorry about being so far away from family and friends. I thought it was strange that when I was diagnosed back in September that I was asked a lot about family and friends, my support network. I now realize how important that is to your overall being. I had a wonderful support system and has helped me I think to recover from everything and keep moving to the next step. I know there are also organizations out there for help for those who are like you in a new place. They will come and clean your house for free, etc. Maybe there is something in your area.
Metta - Yeah on the nodes being cancer free!!!
Everyone has done so great! Stay strong and prayers and hugs to all.
Roxanne
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tonight is the leftover pork chops, salad and baked potato
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Hope it's a good day for all my friends,
You ladies have become a lifeline for me. Can't ever express my gratitude enough!
Metta, my dear, thank you for letting us know that your surgery is behind you & that all 7 nodes came back clear (hoorah!!!). I almost cried when I read your reassurance that we can make it to the bathroom alone & wipe without problem. Sounds dumb but that has been a huge source of stress for me. I totally agree with you that it's a shock to be healthy & athletic then bam, cancer patient. Hugs & prayers for your speedy recovery!
Lynn, you are angel to share all your knowledge about lymphodema. I took your advice & did a little reading. I will have to change my purse shoulder from right to left & wear compression sleeve when I fly to Ohio this summer for my best friend's daughter's wedding (I'm being told I MUST wear a pink dress -- ha ha). Where do you get compression sleeve? Does doctor need to write prescription? I doubt insurance will pay for it. Sorry that you overdid it yesterday but so happy to know that you're feeling stronger. Girl at work has ramp I can use for my 30 pound terrier to get on the bed without my help so cross that problem off the list.
SoutherMother, thanks for thoughtful info about lymphodema. I'll try to avoid repetitive motion while I'm healing. I guess that means writing notes is out, right? Maybe keyboard with my left hand. Is all this caution forever? Or just after surgery?
Dear sunnidaze, my prayers for your calm & peace before your surgery on Thurs. I'm right behind you, sister! Please know we're right here for you. Let us know how you are, OK?
Sweet Redporchlady (Roxanne), your walk outside 3 days after surgery gives me so much hope! I'll remember not to swing my arms. Question though, what is ALND? Forgive my ignorance, I'm definitely a newbie. But learning fast, with a little help from my friends.
As Garrison Keillor says, Take care, be well & keep in touch,
Jean
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Jackbirdie, bc is tough enough with an emotional and social support network, so kudos to you for getting through this on your own isolated in a brand new town and glad you found virtual support through this site. Sending you wishes for a nudge from 'almost' to completely on the other side soon.
Redporchlady, I am happy for you that you won't be needing rads and hope you get that drain out tomorrow or Tues.
evelynsfirstborn, ALND is axillary lymph node dissection, meaning all level I and II lymph nodes are removed from the axilla. If level III nodes are involved (have cancer in them), they will be removed as well. SNB is sentinel (lymph) node biopsy whereby either a radioactive tracer or blue dye (some surgeons use both) is injected and travels through the lymphatic vessels along the same path to which the tumour would drain, which isn't always in the axilla. The first node at the end of this path collects the drainage elements from the tumour. This hot/blue node is removed instead of the several nodes in an ALND. Sometimes more than one node is equally hot or stained as intensely blue, so additional nodes will be taken. Typically, 1-4 nodes are removed via SNB.
SummerSun, lovelivelaugh78 and tara_: wishing you all uneventful surgeries tomorrow and easy recoveries.
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Audrey, Since I was not, still cannot sleep in the bed (once into position on several pillows - cannot use chest muscles to be able to move), my sister went on a recliner hunt. She found a really nice, leather Lazy Boy recliner that was on the floor....not making this model anymore, and she told them she was looking for something for her sister (me) who had a BMX and needed a recliner to be able to sleep in . This one is very nice - and it has a control on a cord, so I can use it easily with either hand. And, I can move just the leg lift or the back separately - or both together. Very adjustable, which I find helpful to be able to change position. Otherwise, I have found that if I cannot move, it really gets uncomfortable and my back hurts. They sold it to her for R half price - $45.000, AND delivered it within the hour to my house. Worth EVERY penny.
Lynn
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Jean, I don't know if your surgeon or MO will write a RX for a sleeve or not. I am going to ask for one. I will buy my own if they won't or if my insurance won't pay for it. You can buy at a medical supply store.....look up online for your area. Also, there is a website- TLC - that has all kinds of stuff. I also learned that if you are having chemo, your MO can write a RX for a wig, BUT - the RX HAS to say ....for a cranial prosthesis! THAT is medical language for wig! Go figure. These little things are really important. I was told they may pay up to an amount - insurance, that is. I am so happy to learn on this site, and share with all of you.
Have a Happy Sunday!
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thanks so much to my April half-sisters. You've all cheered me up and I'm so proud how you are getting along and positive.
MySunshine- bravo on the perfect recliner. Hope this makes things just that much easier!
I love the way you are all supporting each other. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside.
Hugs
Katy
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Sinnidaze - helping you stay "prayed"! You can do this! March into that hospital or surgery center and just do it! Maybe we should all start wearing t- shirts (later)
that say Survivor - Just Do It - I Did It!
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Oh, Sunnidaze, Google Breast Cancer Suppot Groups (put your city) or call American Cancer a Society
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