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  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    LOVE the dump truck!

    Angiel: I am doing neoadjuvent chemo as well. I was just noticing your time between chemo and surgery seemed long. My surgeon wanted me in 2-4 weeks. I agree about how to spend 2015. Not fun.

    Sue: You will learn I am the broken record recommending lysine for mouth sores. I have had bouts of them before chemo which lysine completely cured. I am not sure if anyone who has them has weighed in yet on whether the lysine has been tried or worked. Ladies, anyone? Bueller?

  • so-she-did
    so-she-did Member Posts: 202
    edited April 2015

    I have 3 options for attachments; lobster clasp, jump ring, or European bead. Which one works best with the bracelet and I'll put in an order? I'll add this to my list of purchases under the influence of steroids (most of the stuff I bought were things we needed anyway so I'm happy I get to buy something just for the hell of this cancer!). I'm giggling just thinking about this bracelet right now. Still haven't spent the time to figure out how to PM my address yet but I'll work on it.

  • so-she-did
    so-she-did Member Posts: 202
    edited April 2015

    Theresa - so glad everything ended up being fine for your infusion today and you are in good health and spirits going into it!

  • so-she-did
    so-she-did Member Posts: 202
    edited April 2015

    Trvler - I haven't had mouth sore issues (just gross tongue and no sense of taste) but have been using Biotene routinely. I hardly ever get canker sores but my girls get them on occasion. What is the recommended age for using lysine?

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Sue- the honey might make your mouth feel better, but for the sore themselves, and sometimes thrush (little white spots develop in your mouth) honey won't help that. Take L-Lysine 1,000 mugs aDay once you start chemo and follow the swish the baking soda regimen in tepid water up to 15-20 tines a day.

    And yes! Definitely to the ginger. It has helped me with nausea. Good thoughts

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Amy I think you meant dosage? Your spell check put "age"

    I was told by head onc nurse to take 1,000 mg a day. You can take it in one go, or take 500 twice. She said it doesn't matter.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Amy, I prefer the lobster clasp for our shared bracelet. So cool you're adding to it,

    I'll send you a pm. Then you'll see it on up your menu and you can just respond. Will be easier..

    Katy

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited April 2015

    KBeee, probably dumb question, but if you had a BMX with reconstruction and with chemo and hormones, how did you get diagnosed again? Was it on the skin over the muscle (implant under)?

    How did you know? How do they recheck after all this? I am just now recovering from my BMX and am learning as I go.

    I feel so bad for you having to go through chemo again. I am really scared to start this next step in this process. I hope you don't mind me asking these questions.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Amy- somehow I missed the chicken watering can with nipples. I think there might be a group penalty for not posting that. Giving you a 48 hour reprieve to make good. Or else. Just realized you might not have taken delivery yet. So 48 hrs from delivery. Must post or face the consequences.

    Slothabout! Thinking of you in the chair. How's it going? Just about done? Hope all is well. Many hugs

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Avmom- thinking of you. Feeling any better today? I love your "meals". Made me laugh.

    Trvler- have also been thinking of you. Hope the fog has lifted a bit and you're feeling better andinching bravely towards a jazzersize session.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    I think I've caught up with the posts so I'm going to share my serving of shit sandwich today. I've been having a little trouble with my distance vision lately and blurry vision and really dry eyes so I went to my eye dr.

    I thought I would just be getting a new prescription. I did have Lasik about 12 years ago and it is known to slip. But no. She pushes back her chair and says I have cataracts developing.. Plural. As in both eyes. And indeed my vision has deteriorated. She saw me last two years ago for a retinal tear that required a procedure and there was no sign of cataracts then.

    So. Complete. Meltdown. In her office. I really didn't need this. Anything to do with my eyes scares me to death.

    She assured me that it will be the easiest surgery I will ever have. Actually 2, since they don't like to risk it by doing them both at once. The blurred vision and dry eyes she thinks is the chemo, but probably not the cataracts. I think of cataracts as something that happens to people in their 70s. I just turned 58. She says it doesn't need to be done for a while. She would never do it during chemo, or a few months after. So it doesn't have to stay on my immediate radar. But really? I'm probably over-reacting, but I'm nervous over starting steroids again tonight and spa day tomorrow. Fasten your seatbelts. I'm likely to get pretty GD wackadoodle.

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited April 2015

    Ok done with chemo for the day - woohoo! Hope everything goes as well as last two rounds.

  • rleepac
    rleepac Member Posts: 755
    edited April 2015

    What is the name of the iphone app for BCO? I had had it on my iphone and accidentally deleted it. Now, when I search for it I can't find it!

    Anyone?

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    Katy: I totally understand how you feel but the thing about cataracts is that they are fixable and you will instantly see again. Key is a very good doctor.

    Yes, thanks, I went to Jazz today. I was still a bit nervous but the gang was there and they were wonderful to me. Even our token man said hello to me. lol. I often wonder what it is like for him to be the only guy there and how people probably don't say much to him. But he's a guy so maybe he doesn't care as much about that kind of stuff.

    Italy: Hope the evening is easy on you.

    Sloth: I was scratching me head about the 'age' for lysine. (Thankfully, Katy figured out what you were saying since I was too stupid to). I don't even know what dosage I take. When I feel a sore coming on, I pop two immediately and then take a few throughout the next couple of days. I will check the bottle. I think key is front loading if one is coming on to nip it. Or you could taken it as a prevention tool.

    Bekah: I just have the regular site on my phone. I guess I should put the app on but I never have because the site works very well on my phone. Can you search the app store?

    An employee at the meat counter (woman) at Whole Foods told me how nice my hair looked yesterday so now I am thinking maybe the wig is better than my own hair. :) lol All I care about now is that my scalp is no longer trying to drive me nuts. Still hurts, just not as bad.

    FINALLY finished my taxes. I don't know why it took me so long. It wasn't hard really. Would you believe my husband is a CPA and I do the taxes? He has no idea how to do it. He's a corporate accounting/ finance guy. People are always surprised that I do all of that kind of stuff and he doesn't even look at any of it.

    Just want to say a word about exercise. I know Italy and I talk about it a lot but I don't want anyone to feel like if they feel like crap, they should be exercising. It's HARD to exercise even when you feel ok and I know that. I talk about it because it's a big accomplishment for me to overcome my inborn laziness. I hope I haven't offended anyone.

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited April 2015

    I agree with Trvler. My intent with exercise is not to make anybody feel bad. It is my way of staying sane and feeling normalcy through this process. The more normal things I do, the more I feel cancer isn't winning. I'm just stubborn that way. F*ck cancer, you aren't taking over my life! Plus, I had it easier. One lumpectomy, no biopsies, no mastectomies, etc. So I only had scans, lumpectomy and port placement. I know multiple biopsies and surgeries do a number on the body, so I would never think that anybody going through all that was slacking. I mean, surgeries, drains, and I cannot imagine the pain associated with mastectomies. I hope I never have to. But if this bitch comes back, the boobs are gone and I will get Barbie boobs. Or none at all.

    I am going to have to keep in mind the heat and fingertip issues somebody posted about. I cook a lot, and I am not very careful with heat around my hands, including hot dishwater. So that is my mantra for the next three weeks - stay away from heat on my fingertips! It makes sense, because the pruning I have is in my thumb, index and middle finger, and those are the fingers I use the most when cooking. So thanks for the tip

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Trvler- and Theresa- you do not offend you INSPIRE!

    Trvler, thanks for the support. My opth dr is very good; she did a successful retinal procedure a couple of years ago. I feel much better now, I was just on the edge, I think, due to upcoming steroids and spa treatment and just lost it.

    All better now. Spent some nice time in the garden and getting some D while Jack did what he always does in the sun. A picture is worth a thousand words.

    image

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    Wow, I wish I were that happy and carefree!

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Trvler- just wanted to say I am/was a CPA and always hated taxes and if I could find someone to do them for me I would. I was an auditor, then corporate controller. People assume the designation CPA has something to do with taxes but in reality only 10% of the questions on the theory part of the exam are remotely related to taxes, none of the practice sections. And that 10% is usually out of date by the time they print the exam. Congress changes the laws so fast it makes your head spin, and they never figure out HOW to fit it onto any of the forms. So the IRS scrambles behind them trying to plug the dike.

    As you might expect, unsuccessfully

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Jack is my guru

  • avmom
    avmom Member Posts: 324
    edited April 2015

    Hi Katy. I'm hanging in today. As this is the day after my infusion (4th AC, so I'm done with that cocktail -Yahoo!) I have my swollen steroid face, and my tummy is pretty unsettled. I do get an energy hit from the dex, though, so overall I'm not doing too badly. I have an appointment to see my oncologist tomorrow, so he can assess my readiness to start paclitaxel in two weeks. Did my Neulasta injection this afternoon, so the achy bones should start up again tomorrow. I'm in pretty good spirits because I don't have to do any more AC - I'm half done with chemo!! So far, it doesn't look like I'll need to have any radiation, so the second mastectomy (and maybe reconstruction) will complete my active treatment. I'm triple negative, so no tamoxifen or Herceptin for me, though I am taking Metformin, and that will continue.

    I'll PM you my snail mail address.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Yay! No more red devil for you! A small celebration is in order.

    You have a ways to go yet, but you're definitely with Fred Flinstone, sliding down the dinosaur's tail.

    YABBA DABBA DOOOOOO!!!!!

    Hope you have a restful night.

    Big celebratory hug!

    Katy

  • lemonadehk
    lemonadehk Member Posts: 106
    edited April 2015

    Hi ladies, I am your next door neighbor from the April chemo group! Started my dose-dense AC-T on April 1. Read many of your posts and got a lot of inspiration and courage!

    I have a question about AC SE and am hoping to find out whether anyone else experienced the same. A few hours after my 2nd AC yesterday, I had shortness of breadth and chest , along with nausea. It was so uncomfortable that I was crying by myself. Thankfully, after a night's sleep, the shortness of breadth and chest stuffiness is gone. But I am worried that it's a sign if the AC's cardiotoxicity. I didn't experience for my 1st AC. Anyone else experienced the same with AC? Thanks!

    Lemonade



  • DavisD
    DavisD Member Posts: 338
    edited April 2015

    Hi all. Best of all that can be good from spa day Katy and whoever else will be in the chair tomorrow. I wish I felt up to reading or typing but my hands are worse and I feel like shit. Worked all day and t/w the MO office twice asking about the prednisone...but no, he wants to "save it for other SE's" and their answer was to try some hydrocortisone cream which I did. No help. They're going to reduce my Taxotere NEXT TIME by 20% but that doesn't help now. Love you guys

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  • avmom
    avmom Member Posts: 324
    edited April 2015

    lemonadehk, you should report any shortness of breath to your medical team. When I go in for my bloodwork before a round of AC, my nurse goes through a questionnaire that includes questions about shortness of breath.Your medical team will want to know about this - they may adjust your chemo dose. Both Adriamycin and cyclophosphamide can have heart effects.

    I'll be sending good thoughts your way. Best of luck with AC - I finished my last dose dense round yesterday.

    avmom

  • avmom
    avmom Member Posts: 324
    edited April 2015

    Oh, DavisD, that looks uncomfortable. Although it isn't directly comparable, I've had psoriasis on my hands for many years, and there are just too many nerves in your hands for any kind of inflammation/skin disturbances to be anything but acutely painful. If it were me, I'd keep asking - after all, this SE is pretty bad, what are you saving prednisone for, exactly? For a SE you might not get?

    Avmom

  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 718
    edited April 2015

    KarenB that's so thoughtful of your daughter. I'm finding a little bit of yogurt in the morning is agreeing with me. 

    Welcome to our group Angie although I am sorry to see another wonderful woman here. Settle in and come and go as you want. Someone's will be around if you have any questions and I'm sure your experience will help us. 

    SC so pleased to hear that you are going well. I'm so sorry about your neighbors bone cancer. I'm sure they appreciate your families help and care. I know I appreciate the little things my neighbor does to help me. 

    Angela, welcome to you too. And again I'm so sorry you are here. I just keep a notepad showing days when I have major SE my pain number (1-10) and the drugs I used. With my first round I wrote down all SEs but now I just do my major ones. For me this is migraine headaches and bone pain. I'm also going to try and write down how effective the painkillers were and what they took my pain level down to so I can show the MO what is and isn't working. Oops iI've just seen that special has some links to logs... I might have a look at them too ☺


  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 718
    edited April 2015

    Katy, my eyesight is blurred too and the MO said it is the chemo and will resolve on its own. So sorry about the cateracts though. If it helps, I had both my eyes lasered about 5 years ago and I was scared shirtless, but like many things we are coming across the actual event is easier than the buildup. I could even drive the next day for my checkup. 

    I hope everyone in the chair goes well today. I did try the sucking on ice trick but it closed up my veins and caused pain. I had to have a hotpack on my arm and blankets on... And a hot drink. Lol, just can't win sometimes. They are having problems finding good veins now. I asked the nurse if she thought they would last to the end. She didn't think so! So Iasked her about getting a picc in, she just sshrugged! I'll speak to the MO about it. 

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited April 2015

    Katy,

    I have read most all your posts and you are one amazing, strong woman! I am 5 days post surgery and cannot imagine doing all this alone. HOW in the world did you get in and out of bed or on and off the toilet? Anyway, sorry to hear about all your issues. I will be finding out about my chemo treatments next week.😞This scares me more than surgery because I have kidney problems. I hope the poison does not make that worse.

    The fact that you can go to chemo and still do some things - like the Feel Good day and be outside playing with your dog, is encouraging. I have never met you face to face, but I love you!

    Lynn

  • wpmoon
    wpmoon Member Posts: 270
    edited April 2015

    Hi ladies!

    Sorry for being so quiet lately - I got behind on posts, and then got too tired to catch up. This past monday was my #3 out of 6 round of TCHP - and while I feel mostly okay, I'm tired as all hell. I've been waking up a lot throughout the nights, and then I'll usually wake up about 2 hours before my alarm for whatever reason, and can't fall back asleep. I'm also having trouble trying to figure out when to stop drinking fluids before bed so that way I don't wake up to pee every hour. Any suggestions?

    rleepac- the BCO app I've been using is "Share the Journey" is that what you're referring to?

    ItalyChick - your drive and motivation to keep exercising is inspiring. I need to get my a** out of bed and at least walking, rather than feeling sorry for myself and eating donuts. It's hard to find the right balance between staying active and resting when needed. But there has to be one. I just need to work a little harder at finding it.

    Lots of love and hugs to you ladies!

  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 718
    edited April 2015

    Diane ouch! I wish they could do something more for you! 

    So pleased to hear from you Wpmoon. I'm having motivational issues too. Its hard to find the balance isn't it!

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