New Gummy Bear Tear Drop Silicone Impants - anyone have them?

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  • sugartoes
    sugartoes Member Posts: 39
    edited February 2015

    Thanks grammakathy! I will take photos of myself, but it is hard to even look at myself. I will give it time.

  • DiveCat
    DiveCat Member Posts: 968
    edited February 2015

    sugartoes,

    Yes, they have also been available in Canada for a long time :)

    You are correct, when you cut into a true gummy bear, the silicone does not and CANNOT leak. You can see videos on You Tube of gummies sliced right in half. The silicone does not go anywhere. It is form stable, a true cohesive gel.

    Even modern cohesive silicone rounds, not true gummies but the other popular implant (Mentor rounds, Allergan rounds), won't exactly leak. It is not as form stable as gummies (and therefore not "shaped"), but you can see videos on You Tube of these cut as well, the silicone will "squish" out if the implant is squeezed but will still stick to itself and return back to itself when pressure is released. It is not at all like old silicone implants.



    I honestly do not know, Becky, why they suspect silicone in your nodes or outside of implant. It seems very unlikely to be silicone given how gummy bears behave when puntured or even sliced right in half. I am also not sure how they can tell that without a biopsy?

  • bc101
    bc101 Member Posts: 1,108
    edited February 2015

    Becky - you look great! Very symmetrical. Did you have fat grafting at all? We had surgeries on almost the same day. :)

    Please keep us posted as to what you find out with MRI. I'm also very curious as to how they know it is silicone.

    Best of luck to you!

  • sugartoes
    sugartoes Member Posts: 39
    edited February 2015

    It has been a week since my exchange. I went back to work yesterday. I work in a clinic and ran around on my feet all day, answered phones, vacuumed, took out the trash, cleaned instruments, etc. I still have (2) Sponge Bob Square Pants in my chest. I bet I will have to find a bra shop that will make make square bras to fit these hard as rock squared implants. A lot of you are mentioning softness with your implants??? What in the world does that feel like? I cannot even imagine. I do not have any feeling at all in my chest nor in both underarm areas because of having to take out a few lymph nodes in each underarm because I was the LUCKY one who HAD TO HAVE cancer in BOTH at the same time. Just double dumb luck my breast surgeon told me.

  • bc101
    bc101 Member Posts: 1,108
    edited February 2015

    Sugartoes - If you post on the picture forum there are women who could help you in more detail. Also whippetmom is the foob-whisperer on this site. She can be found on the Exchange City thread and other reconstruction threads.

    Yes, the numbness is not unusual post surgery. But it shouldn't feel as bad as the BMX because they only insert the implants vs. do a lot of new cutting. I should say they had to make new scars under my foobs to get the implants in. So that area was numb and prickly for awhile. It went away after several weeks, though.

    I had strict instructions not to lift anything over 10 lbs. for 2-3 weeks. They said not to do strenuous activity (like vacuuming) or anything high impact or repetitive, but I understand - you do have to work. After the tagaderm bra was removed in 2 weeks, I had to wear a compression bra 24/7 for 3 weeks. This helps hold things together and keeps fluid from collecting. Then I was told to switch to a sports bra with a wide band, which I had to wear 24/7 for 2 weeks. After that I was told I could go without a bra or wear any kind of bra I wanted, but no underwire for 2 months. If you find the right bra, it will really help towards making you feel more comfortable. I warn you, this is not an easy task. There's another thread for that, lol! I got hooked on sports bras. Buy them in the largest size you can fit into so that the band isn't too tight around your trunk. All PS's vary greatly on their instructions.

    Again, check with whippetmom and /or see if you can get on the picture forum. They should be able to tell you if things look very different from what others have experienced.

  • Becky63
    Becky63 Member Posts: 47
    edited April 2015

    @bc101. No fat grafts. Just swelling. The reconstruction of the reconstruction on my left side is painful all of the time. We made it to the MRI in the blizzard yesterday. Hoping they found no irregularities, but hoping they did find something that can be fixed.

    Just an anomaly is the mri outcome. I am thrilled. The mri has also erased so much anxiety about missed cancer. The PT has helped so much with the frozen shoulder too. The therapist massages the foobie on that side too. That has made a big difference in the level of pain, swelling & tightness in that foobie. How weird the things we go through because of BC.

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited February 2015

    How are the gummy bears working out? Are you happy?

  • bc101
    bc101 Member Posts: 1,108
    edited February 2015

    Mine are working out just fine. I'm happy with the results. They are very natural looking and to me feel like the next best thing to real breasts.

  • mjh1
    mjh1 Member Posts: 445
    edited March 2015

    Sugartoes,  give it time.  They do soften over time. I  know it's the last thing any of us want to hear after the journey we've all taken to even get to this point.  I had Mentory Memoryshape 525 cc implants put in which are anatomical as part of a revision surgery along with Alloderm to try to correct rippling.  Unfortunately that only helped one boob.  At this point I also wish I had the TE in my right boob as it looked so much better.   You do feel quite distraught when you have high hopes and they fail, but it really is a blessing to have all these ladies share their story.  We're all here for each other like no one else.  Family and friends are great, but no one can understand unless they've been on this journey.  I refuse to give up or settle for rippling after having to give up my boobs because they tried to kill me.  Why can't they come up with implants that don't ripple??  Good luck and vent anytime you need to.

  • DiveCat
    DiveCat Member Posts: 968
    edited March 2015

    I had my revision today from 435cc Allergan Natrelle Inspira high profile rounds to the Allergan 410s - moderate profile, moderate height at 450g.

    They are a tad wider than my rounds (1cm) but almost exact same "height", and have about 0.3cm more projection. I still have dressings over the incisions but from what I can see from a little below my nipples and up they are looking great! My husbands comment when he first saw them, before I did have my own view in mirror, was that they look a lot more natural....I agree! Time will tell if they help resolve the rippling and denting issues, but I do love the shape and they look much more "athletic" looking which suits me and my frame much better, in my opinion.

    Obviously I am still swollen but at this point they don't really feel thatmuch firmer to my touch than the previous ones, though I know they won't ultimately be as "moveable" as the rounds were due to the texture and being form stable. I do seem to have a bit more cleavage though right now, in part due to increased width but some may be swelling.

    For those on the pic forum, I'll try and post pictures in my revision thread soon where you will be able to see pics of the before with rounds as well for comparison.

  • mjh1
    mjh1 Member Posts: 445
    edited March 2015

    suggartoes = the numb feeling is very normal at this point and not just because you had lymp nodes removed but because of MX.  It takes a while for your nerve endings to regrow.  On my right underarm where I didn't have lymph nodes removed. the numbness went away after several months.  On the left side where I had a lymph node removed, I finally got feeling back in that underarm after a year.  I was getting tired of shaving that underarm with an electric razor because I had no feeling and I didn't want to cut myself with a regular razor.  I thought it would never get the feeling back as the months went on, but I did.  I also did constant massage on both sides because they said sometimes that helps.

    I had a revision surgery done becaue of rippling and had my round silicone gel implants exchanged for the gummy bear implants with alloderm (didn't correct rippling in one boob) and they do get softer but not like the prior silicone gel implants.  I guess it depends on your definition of "soft."   I, personally, at this point would trade in the softness for less ripples.  Hope that helps.

  • mjh1
    mjh1 Member Posts: 445
    edited March 2015

    becky63 -  they look amazing!!!  They give hope to us all. The nipples will come with time.  Right now I'd give up my nipples to have no ripples and I thought I'd never say that.  All you ladies inspire me to not settle!!!

  • elabee
    elabee Member Posts: 20
    edited March 2015

    Just wanted to chime in, I also recently had a revision surgery. I had direct-to-implant reconstruction following my bilateral nipple-sparing mastectomy last year. I was asymmetrical since my surgeon thought I would be having post-mastectomy radiation (I didn't end up having it). Along with the asymmetry, there was substantial rippling and the implants seemed too small.

    The revision surgery involved switching my implants from Mentor MemoryGel, moderate-plus, 450ccs to Allergan 410 FF, 535ccs and some fat-grafting. The anatomical implants have better projection, cleavage, and the size better suits my skin envelope. They don't feel any more stiff than my previous implants. The fat-grafting helped with softness, added warmth and upper pole fullness. I'm definitely happy with the anatomicals and fat-grafting.

    Despite this, I'm seeking a second opinion since I am still asymmetrical, have some slight rippling on the left side that also lacks the upper pole fullness of the right side. I'm guessing that another revision is in my future but I'm hopeful that'll be the final tweak.

  • mjh1
    mjh1 Member Posts: 445
    edited March 2015

    ellabee -  I originally had the Mentor Memorygell round smooth mod. profile 425 and my PS assumed that switching to the Mentor Memoryshape 525 cc with alloderm on top would solve my rippling.  Got one good boob.  Gotta get more opinion from other PS's on what else could be done since I don't know if fat grafting is an option for me because I'm thin to begin with.  I will definitely ask about the Allergran when I find a PS. 

  • knmtwins
    knmtwins Member Posts: 598
    edited March 2015

    Ladies - how long is recovery? How long before your kids friends (ages 7 and 11) won't notice your boobs are weird in a bathing suit. My PS is scheduling for May at the moment, so I'm worried about being at the pool with them. Mind you, I am normally in a cover-up, but still. My 7 year old says he misses my squishy breasts... btw for those of you who have had both, the gummy bear sample at the PS's office feels much harder, but does the fat grafting help with that?

    Have any of you had it done while your port was still in? I would be quite happy to get rid of these underarm boobs, although I'm not fully filled so they still move some.

  • knmtwins
    knmtwins Member Posts: 598
    edited March 2015

    Oh and what is all this about silicone in the lymph nodes --- WHAT???? BTW - Ladies how are you???

  • mjh1
    mjh1 Member Posts: 445
    edited March 2015

    knmtwins - recovery for me after TE exchange was pretty quick but you do have limitations.   That was the hard part, knowing I was able to and wanting to do things but yet being told to take it easy.  I couldn't lift more than 10 lbs for two weeks until stitches were healed and then for the next 2 weeks it was no lifting more than 20 pounds.  By week six, all my restrictions were lifted.  It also depends on the type of implant you are having too.  With regular silicone or saline, it's quicker than mentioned above, but if you have the gummy bears, they don't want you doing too much as not to disrupt the placement so they will adhere better.  If all goes as planned, you should be able to wear a bathing suit with no cover up sometime in June.  The gummy bears do soften over time.  Think of the gummy bears as the third in line in terms of softness after your original boobs and then the gel silicone boobs.

  • elabee
    elabee Member Posts: 20
    edited March 2015

    mjh1 - I totally understand your frustration, to go through another procedure and be so close but still have one boob not quite right. Your next PS would be a better judge on where he/she could harvest fat. But, for perspective, I'm a petite person at 5' tall with a small frame, weighing under 110. Before my initial surgery, I met with 3 plastic surgeons and I definitely didn't have enough fat for any of the flap procedures...but, I had some for the fat-grafting. Since you're mainly having issues with rippling, I think fat-grafting could be a great solution.

    knmtwins - The anatomicals are firm but I didn't notice that much of a difference from the MemoryGel implants. I've grown pretty used to how implants feel. No real squishiness factor. Fat-grafting is great for adding softness, filling the upper pole and cleavage...so long as enough fat stays. It's pretty common to do more than one fat transfer procedure (depends on how much fat stays after this 1st round and what type of results you'd like to have).

    Since I had a decent amount of pocket work done along with switching implants and fat grafting, my lifting restrictions were nothing over 10 lbs for about a month.

  • mjh1
    mjh1 Member Posts: 445
    edited March 2015


    elabee -  thanks. you give me hope that they will find some fat and it will be enough and it takes.  My proportions are the same as yours and I've read so many people say they need more than one FG sessions and I'm like say what??  I don't know if I have enough for one, let alone two.  Of course, this is all technique dependent so I guess I should really worry about the PS and not where to find fat...lol

    Divecat -  how are you healing??

  • DiveCat
    DiveCat Member Posts: 968
    edited March 2015

    mjh1

    Thanks for asking! I am doing very well.

    Things seem to be healing up just fine, though I can't see under the steri strips :). No pain, just the odd little bit of discomfort on outermost part of incision if my bra band rubs it. I have not had any medications, including OTCs, since about 3 days post op. I've been walking lots and started riding the spin bike yesterday....slowly! Very easy recovery for me...the hardest part if actually making sure I follow the restrictions as I don't feel like I just had surgery and have no pain or discomfort to guide me. I am cleared to put clothing on over my head now though now, thankfully, so I can wear more than the same 2-3 shirts again :)


    Knmtwins....even though the gummies are firmer, I've seen and heard a good number of women express they really soften up by 6-12 months out. Mine honestly don't feel noticeable firmer to the toucheven at this stage than my rounds did, though I know objectively they are!

  • mjh1
    mjh1 Member Posts: 445
    edited March 2015

    divecat - great to hear you're doing so well.  The end irritation is probably the knot where they tied the stitches.  if they're still there after 3 weeks just ask your PS to snip them because they should be dissolved at that point.  I had my PS snip them because they kept getting caught on my Genie bra after the steri strips came off.  I know it's hard to remember to take it easy when you feel good, but just remember it's temporary and it's for the boobies so don't overdo.

  • DiveCat
    DiveCat Member Posts: 968
    edited March 2015

    Nope, it's definitely not stitches...I am closed up with glue and Steri Strips again. It's just the way my surgical bra sometimes just rubs a bit against incision where my IMF curves up on my ribs and bra is snug....a bit of gauze over incision area helps this though so no big deal. The same thing happened last time too :).

    Don't worry, I am a very good patient when it comes to following what I am supposed to do, and my PS is also pretty good about letting me progress as I feel comfortable, so no worries here. My point was more this surgery was much, much easier to recover from,..and faster...than my original BMX/direct to implant. No way could I have gone back to work 4 days after my first surgery!!!

  • zomatti7
    zomatti7 Member Posts: 3
    edited March 2015

    so confused about gummy bear vs round silicone. Double mastectomy and now TE. I want to make the right decision! :)

  • mjh1
    mjh1 Member Posts: 445
    edited March 2015

    zomatti7 - from everything I've read your PS should have disected your pockets with a clear vision of which implant he had in mind.  The pockets for the gummy bears have to be very specific.  My TE exhange I had round smooth gel but I had rippling, they felt cold and clammy and I thought they were too small, so my PS said to exchange for more form stable (gummy bear) in a bigger size and put alloderm to correct rippling.  Textbook answer.  However, still have rippling in right boob which may be due to malpositioning or rotation.  Not sure yet what the issue is becaue obviously the PS I had is not skilled enough to tell me what's wrong so I am now looking for other PS.  This is not meant to scare you but I just wanted you to be aware because I thought I asked I all right questions of my PS and thought I had the right answers which made me very confident in his skills and yet I will be looking at a 2nd revision sometime in the future.   As far as in your choosing which implant, it's really just a matter of preference.  The gummies do look more natural if you like that look and the gels are round if you like that look.  The gummies are a little bit more firm (NOT HARD) than the geL but that's also a matter of individual preference.  Take the knowlege that you learn from all these wonderful tata sisters on these threads to make an informed decision.  Good luck! 

  • grammakathy
    grammakathy Member Posts: 407
    edited March 2015

    my PS didn't know I wanted the Allergan 410 highly cohesive implants until right before my surgery to place the TEs. At that time she told me that there are implant specific TEs. She consulted with her colleagues and then just made sure the pockets were really tight when the TEs were exchanged for the implants. My exchange was last September and. I LOVE the results.

    My opinion is that you should decide on what look you want to achieve. Do you want larger boobs that show cleavage in a push up bra? Then the regular silicone will give you the best results. Do you want more natural looking breasts that are smaller and more athletic looking? Then the highly cohesive ones will make you happy. It is an individual choice

  • DiveCat
    DiveCat Member Posts: 968
    edited March 2015

    I had smooth rounds first, and now have anatomicals (the latter are about 10 days old).

    I never had TEs, but when my PS switched my implants out he made sure to choose an implant with dimensions that would make a tight fit in the pre-existing pockets. If required, he would have done some pocket work which your own PS can do at exhange as well.

    I liked the rounds. They felt squishy. They looked great in a bra and in clothing. They were very moveable. I would have been happy with them and not known any different if not for some rippling on my right side where my skin is thin.

    But I REALLY like my gummies. Whilst they are about the same size, if not actually a bit bigger than my rounds (a teeny bit more projection and a bit wider...my rounds were 435cc and 13cm wide and 5.9cm in projection, my gummies are 450g with 14cm width, 12.9cm height, 6.2 cm projection) I love the shape on me much more and I think they suit me better. I am quite thin, and athletic, and they just look more natural on me. Even my husband's first comment on seeing them, soon out of surgery and before I had really seen them, was they looked much more natural.

    I actually have better cleavage with the gummies since they are a bit wider than my rounds were and that width actually takes up more of the middle space (my natural breasts were wider set, so the rounds did not look different that way, but the gummies give me nice cleavage!) and don't find them really noticeably firmer than the rounds when I press on them. That might bebecause the rounds were pretty snugged in there, but yeah, I would not let firmness put you off. I don't expect them to be as moveable once they adhere to my tissues, but when I press on them they really don't feel different. I have also had my PS and a few women with gummies report they do soften up a lot over time.

    It is important that your PS is skilled in placing gummies, and chooses the right size for you, as unlike rounds do they do come in different heights versus widths (rounds obviously are the same width no matter in which direction you measure). There is a risk of rotation, hence needing a snug fit

    I know plenty of women who are thrilled with their rounds, but they probably are not hanging out of this thread...so it really is personal preference.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited March 2015

    zomatti - I think the best collection of implant information in one thread is Breast 101. It's a long header but has lots of details & pictures & links. You can access below. Good luck. I do have Allergan 410 anatomical implants and am very happy w/them, but as DiveCat said, it's a really individual decision.

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/44/topic/746448?page=424

  • Newgirls
    Newgirls Member Posts: 81
    edited March 2015

    Divecat-in a previous post you mentioned your variety of exercise passions - any risk of rotation with the gummies with all you do? I am still trying to make up my mind between anatomicals and rounds. I don't want to lose any of my exercise options for my new boobs. Have my possible last fill tomorrow so decision time is nearing. These TEs won't be missed

  • DiveCat
    DiveCat Member Posts: 968
    edited March 2015

    Newgirls,

    Good question!

    Honestly, I avoided directly targeting the pecs even with rounds too. So, no chest press or flies, but do not hesitate when they are engaged with indirect activity - i.e. kayaking, lifting heavy equipment. I modify planks and such in yoga or barre. I do have pretty strong pecs and think they still get a good workout,...just not as the star of the show. I plan to continue this once I can get back to everything again.

    From what I have read and from my PSs experience, the risk of rotation is quite low (I have seen between 1-2%) if they are placed and heal properly....the idea is they are supposed to adhere to the tissues (and be snugly fit) to reduce this risk. If they do not adhere for whatever reason, like not following instructions during healing or due to perhaps complications like a seroma, your risk is higher as they may not adhere. The one instance where my PS had a patient with a rotation, and he has been using them many years as we are in Canada, it was the result of a seroma after surgery interfering with adherence. I am to wear a light compression sports bra/surgical bra as much as possible for 4 weeks and not doing anything "bouncy" to promote adherence.

    I'm not terribly worried about it, I am so happy with the shape, reduced rippling, that the small risk of rotation was "worth" it for me.

  • DiveCat
    DiveCat Member Posts: 968
    edited March 2015

    I believe Whippetmom references Dr. Teitelbaum in the header of Implant Sizing 101. He has made some informational videos, including about the risk of rotation, here (scroll to bottom of page):

    http://www.drteitelbaum.com/breast/cohesive-gel-or...


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