Has anyone had micro fat grafting?

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  • Summer_Girl
    Summer_Girl Member Posts: 69
    edited September 2013

    How did the reconstructions with Dr. Trott go?   I believe two on this thread had this done last year.

  • rdgc
    rdgc Member Posts: 93
    edited October 2013


    I agree. I think it's really tacky. I am actually interested in fat grafting, but the fact that they came in and joined the discussion is turning me away from fat grafting. Why should they need to subliminally advertise?... So anyway, a PS is suggesting fat grafting without the Brava (since it's not FDA approved for reconstruction). The PS says the fat is permanent, but some PS's on the internet have said the following, regarding FACIAL fat grafting:



    With proper fat harvest and grafting techniques, fat injection to the mid-face and cheeks can result in volumization that can last for years. Regions of the face with motion (lips, nasal-labial folds etc) tend to not hold on to fat as long as the mid-face and cheek regions of the face. These regions are more static.


    Scott Sattler, MD, FACS


    Seattle Plastic Surgeon



    "Not even the fat that is naturally in your face lasts a lifetime -- we all lose it slowly over years. However, by refilling the volume loss with fat grafts you should always see an improvement compared with if you didn't have the procedure."--Thomas A Lamperti, Seattle Facial Plastic Surgeon



    "The fat can continue to go away with the aging process. " Kurtis Martin Cincinnati PS



    "The length of time that fat grafts last has quite a bit of variability between both the surgeon and the patient. Newer techniques using microagumentation and smaller size injections seems to help promote better fat survival. It tends to last the longest in the cheek areas and midface and less long in the nasolabial or smile regions. The temple areas are variable and the eyelid regions seem to persist. " Scott Trimas Jacksonville Facial PS

  • rdgc
    rdgc Member Posts: 93
    edited October 2013


    Hi everyone: In addition to being concerned about the effect of time over fat-transfer reconstruction, I am also concerned about the donor sites possibly being depleted in the event that one should want to do a flap surgery in the future.

  • BayouBabe
    BayouBabe Member Posts: 2,221
    edited October 2013


    rdgc - I had fat grafting. I am a rads girl, therefore, I had my PS leave my stomach untouched, just in case my implant ever failed in the future and I choose to do a flap. My fat donor sites were my inner thighs, and outer hips and buttock. I have lost some of my fat that was grafted, and will have it done again in April. Most of the fat, however has stayed put. I am very glad I had this done at the same time as my implants.

  • rdgc
    rdgc Member Posts: 93
    edited October 2013


    Bayoubabe: Thanks for your input. From what I understand, people lose some of the fat grafted, but then whatever stays after 6 months or so will stay for a long time, although the jury's still out on whether it will stay forever...I have also read on the internet that it's good to fat graft in the radiated area before putting in implants. One of my local PS told me that flaps as well as fat grafting is good for radiated tissue. It seems like flaps would be really good, but we know how big an operation that is... I am thinking about doing an SGAP to cover the boniness in my "upper pole" and create an AA cup breast, but I don't think the vast majority of PS's have ever done such a small cup size. One PS told me it wasn't even possible and another one doesn't even think it's worth the trouble, when there is the option of fat grafting. She says she might do more fat grafts in someone with implants or flaps than what she thinks I would need. So she's suggesting I try it and cut my losses after 4 fat grafts if it doesn't work out. I think it will probably work out, but like I say, I wonder how long it will last. I wouldn't want to have to do, say, 4 fat grafts every 5 years. But we don't really know since it is new and un-researched, and un-guaranteed. At least with a flap, you don't have to worry about it possible shrinking. Take care.





  • rdgc
    rdgc Member Posts: 93
    edited October 2013


    Mouse6: I am debating SGAP as opposed to fat transfer. The only flap operations offered by my HMO are latissimus dorsi and TRAM flap procedures. They do offer SGAP, but the PS doing those only does about one a year! So I would want to go to NOLA for that. I am very wary of TRAM and even the Lat. Dorsi flap procedures even though they say it's not a big deal to lose those muscles! Why not look into a DIEP as an alternative to the lat dorsi? Not meaning to tell you what to do, but I would be very wary.

  • Summer_Girl
    Summer_Girl Member Posts: 69
    edited November 2013


    Still looking for feedback from someone who has used Dr. Trott.

  • EileenKaye1
    EileenKaye1 Member Posts: 469
    edited November 2013


    Hi Summer Girl--as I posted--definitely recommend the fatgraftpatient.com website. Questions, pictures--should be available to answer your questions. He seems to have good recommendations--but you will be able to discuss your situation with his patients. Eileen

  • HealthFirst
    HealthFirst Member Posts: 1
    edited February 2014

    Liposuction is a dangerous procedure with a spectrum of negative long-term health and cosmetic consequences. The Health Technology Advisory Board stated "Death and disfigurement due to the cosmetic surgical procedure of
    liposuction should be a matter for serious public concern."
    The consents forms (which are constantly being expanded) are in place to legally protect the doctor, not the patient. Fat grafting involves liposuction. 

     

  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited February 2014

    cosmetic liposuction is different to fat transfer for medical reasons, it has to be handled differently as its going back in to your body

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited February 2014

    Healthfirst, I have to say, I find it strange that this is your first post ever on bco.  Would you like to tell us a little bit about yourself and why liposuction is such a concern to you?  Did you have a bad experience?  Did you have liposuction as part of your reconstruction for breast cancer? 

    I've had lipo 3 times for fat grafting, and (knock on wood), have done very well with it each time.  It's not painfree, by any stretch of the imagination, but I did recover quickly. 

  • GointoCarolina
    GointoCarolina Member Posts: 753
    edited July 2014

    Bumping this up for those of you who may not have seen it.

  • Mommyathome
    Mommyathome Member Posts: 1,111
    edited December 2014
    I have a consultation with ps on January 13 to discuss fat grafting. Any advice?
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2014

    I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have about fat grafting.

  • Dogsneverlie
    Dogsneverlie Member Posts: 278
    edited December 2014

    Hi Mouse6,

    I tried to have FG done and my insurance denied coverage - I believe if I had a mastectomy it would have been covered but they did not consider the two lumpectomies and rads sufficient.  I do not see where you have been diagnosed or if you have had any surgery for BC but make sure to confirm with your health insurance that it will be covered for you.  My PS appealed it as well and it was declined.  You don't want to have a surprise bill to pay!

    Good luck!

  • Dogsneverlie
    Dogsneverlie Member Posts: 278
    edited December 2014

    Mouse - apologies, just saw your DX, missed it before.  I still recommend confirming your insurance will cover.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited December 2014

    I know several patients that have had fat grafting covered with lumpectomies, so it is possible. I guess it depends on your insurance policy. Your PS may not be using the best codes/language, too - I think it can be tricky. Has he ever had it covered for other patients? If so, then it must be your plan. That stinks.

    I'm on my 4th grafting - I am a complete fat graft recon patient. That is very different from grafting over implants. But regarding lipo - get good compression garments (I love my Veronique - but expensive) and MOVE. It can be quite painful sometimes, but after moving around it eases markedly. The more stationary you are, the worse it is.

    Regarding fat grafting, the pain is usually minimal, unless you have other work done (scar, fold work...uggh). Avoid compressing the fat - that leads to more fat loss. You want as much fat to survive as possible. I use Brava domes post but that does not apply for implants.


  • JenS18
    JenS18 Member Posts: 1
    edited November 2016

    Hello ladies,

    I'm not sure if anyone is still active on this forum, but I thought I would reach out for some advice, especially since you all now know the long term effects.

    I am having bilateral mastectomy next week and my reconstruction plan is to have fat grafting (from stomach/love handles) and implants over the next several months.

    Does anyone have any advice? How have you done with absorbing the fat back? Do you still have the same lift that you did when you first had the procedures? Anything else?

    Thanks for any input!


  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited November 2016

    Hi JenS18-

    Welcome to BCO! This is a bit of an inactive thread; however, we do have a thread on fat grafting that has been updated in the last week, so we would suggest reading through it and posting there: https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/44/topics....

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