November 2014 Surgery Sisters

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  • Awest
    Awest Member Posts: 66
    edited November 2014

    AlexaP and group. My update - doing okay, Yesterday I was instructed to remove bandages and to no surprise it was an emotional moment. I compare my chest to peaks, plains, and valleys - no real shape right now. The worst part is I itch so bad. Maybe I am allergic to one of the meds. My back, neck, and everything I lay on is sore from sitting/laying so much. I have had people bringing meals which I said no to originally but now I am so thankful.

    I am very independent but I need people right now. If you haven't gone through surgery the best advice I can give is to be accepting of help. The meals have helped my mom and husband so much. They spend so much time looking after me so not worrying about meals frees them up some.

    One investment everyone needs is a study pillow. The one with the back and arms. It has been a God send.

    Ask questions ifyou have them. Everyone needs to be prepared.

  • TJG2
    TJG2 Member Posts: 61
    edited November 2014

    Awest is right, accept help! Be prepared to sleep sitting up so have whatever is necessary to do that comfortably. I would suggest a breast buddy, it goes over the seat belt. Mine was $15 and I got if from Cure Diva, ordered on line.

    My husband was home with me the first week, but then went back to work. Try to have things for lunch in your freezer. Anything in cupboards above the first shelf, that you may need, move to the first shelf. The first day I was home alone, I couldn't reach the glasses on the second shelf! My husband took care of all that, that night.

    If your shower things are on a shelf that you have to reach, have them on the edge of the tub or the floor of the shower. Also, shampoo in a pump bottle is helpful, I couldn't squeeze the shampoo!

    Good luck!

  • sunandsnow
    sunandsnow Member Posts: 33
    edited November 2014

    Awest I am laughing at your post about the free boob job! Ive heard it 100 times and from some of my best girlfriends who should know better. Believe me I would rather pay the $8-$10K and not go through this! Lol!

  • Luckydog42
    Luckydog42 Member Posts: 51
    edited November 2014

    Hello everyone. I had my UMX on Nov 17th. I was diagnosed with DCIS and a lot of it, including protruding into my nipple. I woke up in the hospital with my nipple intact. Surprised to say the least, but now I am worried that there may still be cancer cells since they didn't remove the nipple as planned. Then my BS called last week to say that they found invasive cancer and I will need chemo after all. I am crushed and was completely blindsided by the news.

    Anyway, I just started sleeping on the couch in an upright position and find that is the only way I can sleep with my drain. I wish I had tried that last week. I cannot wait to get this drain removed!!!!

  • Awest
    Awest Member Posts: 66
    edited November 2014

    luckydog42 I am shocked they left the nipple if that wasn't the plan. My surgery was in the 20th and I still have the drains as well. The itching is driving me nuts! I am awake thanks to itching, sweating, can't get comfortable.....etc. Oh, and the expanders - omg.... Can anything possibly be more uncomfortable? Nelly negative at the moment, sorry.

    Pathology isn't back yet but I fear the news you got luckydog42. I am so very sorry. When do you start and how many treatments will you need?

    For anyone who hasn't had surgery, I meant to share a tip. Old Navy has plain tanks (not ribbed) that are my saving grace. I can pull them up from my feet. I hated the thought of being tank free or only wearing button ups. These are wonderful to sleep in or to wear under cardigans. Cheap too.

    Happy Thanksgiving girls!

  • sunandsnow
    sunandsnow Member Posts: 33
    edited November 2014

    When I had my surgery (11/4) the pathologist actually did the readings while i was on the table so I knew when I woke up where I stood on my DCIS as far as invasive or if my lymph nodes were clean etc? My nipples were left intact but my surgeon warned me that if the pathologist saw anything even close to looking suspicious during surgery they were coming off.

    I know they also sent it off to a lab as well afterward but beforehand they told me the reults almost never differ from the ER pathology result. It took about 3 days to get the other report but it was the same thank goodness. Luckydog42 so sorry that you have to do the chemo. That sucks but since it didnt show up initially hopefully its just a tiny bit invasive and you won't need that many treatments. Hugs to you xoxo

  • Tigger14
    Tigger14 Member Posts: 14
    edited November 2014

    i have tried hard to allow others to care and the outpouring of love and care has been humbling....someone reminded me that allowin others to care is an act of love...having mostly okay days with one or two low days...i am not afraid of this but have to get through all the surgery coming my way. It is hard for Tiggers to do nothing but i am listening to my body...when i do too much I am flat the next day....have had to pass all my responsibility over to others and take care of myself and remind myself that doing so is not a weakness but a strength. Love to you all, we will get through this together

  • blueflowers
    blueflowers Member Posts: 46
    edited November 2014

    I had my lumpectomy done on 11/18/14 - 0/3 SN -I still have a numbing sensation on my right arm, can't raise my hand - any suggestion?

  • AlexaP
    AlexaP Member Posts: 194
    edited December 2014
  • MamaM
    MamaM Member Posts: 80
    edited December 2014

    I had my BMX on the 19th & the tubes were just removed on Monday- I have had two fills so far of 50. Pathology came back with clear margins (4 mm) & all 4 sentinel nodes were clear. The right side had nothing at all going on in it but I'm still glad I had it done. The size was just a cm over a stage 1 at 3 cm. I did have extensive LCIS and it was even micro in my skin. I also had two tiny .1 & .4 spots but my dr said they do not count those just the 3 cm. ER & PR positive 100%. Her2-. Oncotype test was sent out on Tuesday so it am waiting for those results & will be meeting with my oncologist asap to see what my treatment will be. My TE are a little painful still but I stopped taking my pain meds & only taking Ativan for anxiety. How is everyone else doing????

  • AlexaP
    AlexaP Member Posts: 194
    edited December 2014

    Mamadarling that is wonderful news! So happy you got clean margins and negative nodes! My bc in 1996 was just over 2cm but I had a lot of microcalcifications... Also node negative. I had CMF chemo and was all clear for 18 years until this past June I was diagnosed with brca2 at which time my mammogram also was slightly suspicious and my pathology showed an area that would have turned into cancer plus microcalcifications again... So technically I'm an 18 year survivor and in February I can say 19 years! Im sure you'll do great and with all the advances in bc treatment you have a great arsenal of weapons in your fight! I congratulate you with taking the step to do a BMX... If we had the information back in the day, I probably would have done the same thing... It's great that you are totally off painkillers I still have to take Motrin and muscle relaxers mostly for the drain, it's very tender where it comes out... Hang in there this is such a great, supportive group of people here!!!

  • AlexaP
    AlexaP Member Posts: 194
    edited December 2014

    NOVEMBER SISTERS how are we all doing? It's a busy time of year but please check in if you can!

    I had my 2nd post op visit with PS - he removed my second drain (it feels great to have that gone) and did my first post-op TE fill (boy was I sore last night)... So now I'm at 400ccs and since our target is 600ccs im over halfway there. Hopefully can finish fills in next couple of weeks then exchange in February or March...

    The only place giving me any considerable trouble at this point is the SNB site - still gets swollen and bruised... Sometimes I have good range of motion and sometimes the SNB site gets swollen and it limits my ROM... I also take arnica which helps TREMENDOUSLY with the swelling and bruising, but the SNB site is stubborn... Anyone else have this? I see blueflowers was having some trouble with this too...

    HOW IS EVERYONE ELSE DOING?

  • Awest
    Awest Member Posts: 66
    edited December 2014

    Gkad you got that drain our Alexa. I've been drain free one week now... Thank goodness!!! I hated the stitches more than the drains and then the bra was miserable as well!

    My first fill is next Monday. Pathology came back well, all DCIS, and since I elected to have a BMX, I will not need hormone therapy or anything else.

    My SNB side is definitely more sore than anywhere else. I have limited arm movement and strength on that side. I am still weak on the left but it's not as bad.

    Did you all get emotional many times after surgery. I feel like I did after childbirth. Super sensitive. Undressing the first several times opened the flood gates but I am doing better - or, I just don't look! Lol

    Can't wait to hear from everyone.

  • AlexaP
    AlexaP Member Posts: 194
    edited December 2014

    Glad to hear your pathology was good Awest.

    I'm fine emotionally with the surgery, but I had a BSO and just went into full blown surgical menopause. I feel like I live in a sauna that suddenly turns into a freezer, the hot flashes are unreal. And I've burst into tears several times because of the dumbest things... I really hate that... nothing I can do but cry it out. Dr said maybe I can take effexor to help with hot flashes and mood but I'll hold off for now. I think.

    PS wrapped my chest up with an ace bandage and it's driving me crazy when I have the hot flashes but I bet it would hurt like hell if I took it off. I took it off last night to change dressings and my bra was wet. This is gross! The fill was more difficult than I remember it being in the past but I should only have two more to go so I'm really gonna try and suck it up to get through it... He's out Christmas week so I'll get a break there! On one hand I wish it was time for exchange, but on the other hand, that means drains again (UGH) so I guess I'm ok to wait for a while. Just want it to be over. Patience is a virtue. One that I lack.

  • Tigger14
    Tigger14 Member Posts: 14
    edited December 2014

    I have just had a refill and have found it painless at the time, but painful later. I start work again next week. I am so exhuasted, trying to get ready for that. I can do a few things but then have to rest...trying to be wise. I have found out that athough my tumour biologically is stage 1 and perfect...because of my age, family history and grade 3, I may need chemo...will start in January....but great news, i get to be a guinea pig and trial a new machine that freezes your scalp while having chemo that means you dont lose your hair :) I am not looking forward to the next refills. Funny how this journey becomes life interrupted

  • Awest
    Awest Member Posts: 66
    edited December 2014

    When was your surgery Tigger14? I had mine on the 20th and do not feel ready to return to work either. I believe the doc said I could possibly return after 3 weeks, which would be next week, but I am glad I am not. I teach so next week is the last week before break so I backed the surgery up so I'd be off til Jan. One nice thing.

    What type of work do you do? I pray it goes well for you.

    Your chemo story is interesting. It would be amazing if they were able to spare people from hair loss. Please share with us how that turns out.

  • AlexaP
    AlexaP Member Posts: 194
    edited December 2014

    Tigger14 I've heard of the scalp thing and that it works pretty well. No personal experience but I've heard good things. I hope it works well for you and that your chemo goes well.

    I had an interesting week. Monday was my first fill - felt fine at the time then that afternoon and next day major ouch. Then NOTHING. For the first time since surgery 11/20 I truly have not needed any painkillers besides the motrin (I just switched to Aleve)! Yesterday I drove the kids to the grocery store and we shopped. That was pushing it a little, but they were great and did ALL the cart pushing, loading and unloading. I came home and zonked out for an hour. But still no need for painkillers! This is pretty exciting to me. So I know I'm not really ready to go out and do normal stuff, but I'm close. And it sure helped with the cabin fever! My next fill is Monday so I'm anticipating I might need pain killers for a day or so, will just have to see how it goes...

    Awest, mamadarrlin TJ, lucky dog, blueflowers - November sistahs, how are things with you? I hope all is well!

  • mommacat4
    mommacat4 Member Posts: 215
    edited December 2014

    AlexaP - I too get tired with doing tasks I used to do before the surgery. I find myself having to take more time out to rest than ever before and it doesn't help that I have to sleep sitting in an upward position so I have to sleep on the couch which isn't that comfortable for me. My dh will sleep on the couch on his day off with me. We have one of those couches where both ends recline and have a raise up leg rest. He works 6 nights a week so we don't get to spend a lot of time together because on his work nights he sleeps in the bedroom during the day for a more peaceful rest.

    Have any of you gone back to work since your surgery? My recon surgeon filled out my FMLA paperwork for me to return on December 8th and I just couldnt. I still was not driving by then. I am just now slowly starting to drive again. Have only driven 3 times. Still use small pillows under the seat belt.

    Do any of you November girls still have a lot of swelling under your arms where they leave your natural fat? Mine is still almost rock hard and on my left side it is still almost rock hard under the breast. My right side is still swollen but not quite as much. My right side is the one that had the tumor.

    Please lete know about the return to work and the swelling. Thank you all.

  • AlexaP
    AlexaP Member Posts: 194
    edited December 2014

    Mommacat4 my PS3 wrapped me up with an ace bandage after my first fill last week... At first I hated it because it was so uncomfortable, but when I took it off for breaks, I noticed that the swelling under my arm was completely gone. It was the first time since surgery that the SNB site was not all raised up, swollen and painful. I had my second post-op fill today and told him about it - he said I don't NEED to wear the ace anymore, but if I find the swelling comes back I could use it if I want to. Maybe try to ask your dr about a wrap? I also asked him if I could/should massage the TE since the fill - he said it does not give the same result as massage to a regular implant (keep it soft), but if I felt it was doing some good to get blood flow to the area, go ahead and do it... I wonder if some gentle massage might help with the rock hard feeling??? I hope you get to feeling better soon!

    I do still tire easily but also have more bursts of energy... Walked 1/4 mile the other day and only had to come home because my little dachshund got cold in the wind... Have driven a couple of times and every time gets easier.

    I work from home but haven't started back yet. I'm lucky to have super flex time, I do medical transcription from home, a lot of sitting and typing, sonot quite there yet either...

  • Tigger14
    Tigger14 Member Posts: 14
    edited December 2014

    Hi there :) I had 5 nodes removed on the 19th and the mastectomy with partial reconstruction (expander) on the 25 November. I now see an occupational therapist for my webbing under my arm. I was so afraid of having a frozen arm that i caused the e webbing to be worse. when I realised this I rested a lot more. FIrst day back at work was today...I was absolutely exhausted, but it felt good to be person than a diagnosis...I would have preferred to rest more and not go back just yet but i need to conserve my sick leave for my chemo and my final reconstruction surgery. Everyone at work have been amazing and supportive but there are certain things only I can do. I am in Learning and Development and have deadlines for early January. It appears to me that there is not a lot of guidelines of when you should be back at work. I think we should listen to our bodies but also to not think ourselves sick. For me, I had major surgery and am in pain and have to be careful with how I work and need to rest more often...but I am trying not to be in bed too much anymore, although I find myself horizontal a lot. I sang In a carol by candlelight this past weekend. It was great to be normal again...I admit though that I crashed afterwards and spent the day in bed. I am struggling with the fact that i was very fit before the op and now have done zero exercise. my legs are now crampy and muscles not happy...I am dreaming exercise!!! I am n no superheroo, i am taking vacation leave next week...it is our summer holidays and the kids need a break. So visiting friends before chemo in the new year.

  • Tigger14
    Tigger14 Member Posts: 14
    edited December 2014

    I will let you know how the head cooling thing goes. I spoke to someone as she was wearing it...she said she was so cold that she was wondering if hairloss was such a problem afterall... :

  • Awest
    Awest Member Posts: 66
    edited December 2014

    I love reading all of your updates. It feels nice to be surrounded by understanding people.

    I had my first fill today. I had read that the fills themselves are not painful, but my mind would not accept that as truth. I was a mess - sweaty, blotchy red, shaking, and about to cry. The doctor and nurse were taken off guard by my demeanor. I wasn't acting out just internally freaking out. I was a little shocked that I am the abnormal patient and that others are so calm. I think that made me feel even worse.

    Anyhow, I am very uncomfortable right now. No idea how many CC's went in but it sure looked like a lot. I almost feel like I'm back to square one. This is a short set back, right?

    My next appt/fill is on what was supposed to be my first day back to work. So now I am worried that I will be in pain when I go back the next day. I am going to have to learn to suck it up!

    How well are all of you sleeping? I'm still sleeping propped slightly up. The expanders really bother me when a lay down.

    Keep your posts a comin.... I enjoy reading about all of my sisters. Good wishes for work yo be easy on you Tigger14.

  • Tigger14
    Tigger14 Member Posts: 14
    edited December 2014

    Awest, apparently 50% of pain is fear...I hate needles, so my way of coping with the fills is to not look, take deep breahs and think of something complicated that i have to solve, for me it is a kata in my had ( i practice karate) for others it is words to a song or a recipe that is slightly complicated...it helps with the internal freaking out. I also felt like it was a step backwards in my journey as i didnt expect the pain...but today, a week later i feel better. I am not at work today...thank God for public holidays :). Sleep has been bad but getting better...you are not alone :

  • Awest
    Awest Member Posts: 66
    edited December 2014

    Thanks Tigger14 those are all things I needed to hear. Curious about your location. You mentioned summer break coming and public holiday. Are you not in the states? Sounds interesting and I love to learn so fill us in.

  • mommacat4
    mommacat4 Member Posts: 215
    edited December 2014

    trigger14,

    That was good advise for keeping your mind busy during the fills. I personally am not afraid of needles but it did hurt today when they filled me. First the needle poke then after I left the office by the time I got home I was hurting. They put 100 cc in the right and 50 cc in the left. Only because my left is larger and much more swollen than my right. They also had to take more breast tissue from my right in order to get all the tumor with clear margins. My tumor was 7.5cm.

    Awest,

    I asked my dr to give me the dates and amounts he filled me with just so I can keep track of it for myself. I was large breasted before the mastectomy so with the reconstruction I want to go smaller. I am keeping a close eye on my fills and what my breasts look like so I don't end up too big. The MA who fills me said I may end up being a "c or d cup" by the time everything is over and I actually get to go buy a bra.I told her I better not be. I only want to be a "B" cup.

    And yes sleeping is a real bear. I still sleep on the couch. My dr said not to lay flat in bed because things shift too much. He wants as natural as possible look for my breasts. Which tells me he wants the natural gravity effect. Lol.

  • Izzyfran
    Izzyfran Member Posts: 78
    edited December 2014

    Hi All,

    I wish I had known about this site prior to my surgery on 11/6. Had mastectomy (R) with permanent reconstruction done. Just saw my plastic today and I'm cleared back to work on his end. Now, just have to go through a minor surgery to remove marker clip that migrated. Praying that nothing is attached to clip and that everything is clear.

  • Awest
    Awest Member Posts: 66
    edited December 2014

    Welcome Izzyfran to this amazing group of women. Read through our stories and you will find you are not alone. :)

  • Tigger14
    Tigger14 Member Posts: 14
    edited December 2014

    regarding size...I have been warned that the fill is going to cause a very large breast but that is just so the PS has enough to work with...so I am preparing myself for lopsided breats for some time. I too want to go smaller, as I want to be able to jump around in comfort LOL.

    Izzyfran...Good Luck with your marker, I am sorry it migrated, I have realised that on this journey although we all on a fast flowing river, they all have different rocks and rapids :) .

    BTW...work is getting easier ...the new challenge is not to do too much

  • Tigger14
    Tigger14 Member Posts: 14
    edited December 2014

    Dear November sisters...this journey is such an up and down one...Last night I had a bad night and couldnt sleep and today I was exhausted...I am wondering when I will get back to normal...but realising that there is no normal...I am now nervous about how I will react to Chemo...Keep going, Keep walking your own journey, noone can walk this for you , be kind to yourself and have fun just because you can (cheeky grin)

  • AlexaP
    AlexaP Member Posts: 194
    edited December 2014

    Awest I'm sorry your fills were so difficult! I NEVER look when they do it. He tells me to take a deep breath and exhale and I feel a teeny prick when the needle goes in and that's it. But I never, ever look. I talk a lot and goof around and thankfully he is fun to talk to so its over before I know it... Hopefully it will get easier now that you know what to expect 😊

    tigger I'm sorry you had a rough night. Remember "this too shall pass" and be gentle with yourself. I totally get where u r coming from, sleep has been a HUGE problem for me for years. Had to have a sleep study which confirmed insomnia several years ago.. If it wasn't for my sleep meds I'm sure I wouldn't be sleeping at all, and even have a rough time with sleep sometimes anyway... Hang in there...

    Izzy welcome to the club. I think if we all hang in there and go through this together we can really help and support each other... It's never too late for that!

    I had my third fill this past Monday another 100cc and besides coming down with another upper respiratory infection, all is well. Surgical pain is gone and I don't really feel the expander as much as I did before... But I don't think 600cc will be enough. Just have to wait and see.

    Momma that's interesting about the sleep/gravity thing. I'll have to ask my PS about it. It never occurred to me. I always fall asleep slightly propped up but wake up flat on my back with my arm up over my head, hand on my face, which is my usual ridiculous position lol

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