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  • odie16
    odie16 Member Posts: 1,882
    edited November 2014

    Completed my first regular 5k run this morning in blustery conditions. As this was my first 5k not on a treadmill, I wasn't really pushing for any particular time. And since I was running with a buddy, I let her set the pace. We finished in 42.26 so I will now strive to improve on that time when I run the next race on Thanksgiving morning.  Don't know that I will ever be a fast runner but was pleased how easy I found that pace and could have continued running. Came home to a pot of chicken tortilla soup to thaw out. 

    Happy Sunday everyone. 

  • Ginger48
    Ginger48 Member Posts: 1,978
    edited November 2014

    yay- odie, congrats on your 5k!

    Did my 5k race with wind chills in the 20's yesterday morning. I cut 3 minutes off and got my fastest time so far at 37min. Must have been that cold wind making me go faster...it usually takes me around 41 min. 

  • panthrah
    panthrah Member Posts: 433
    edited November 2014

    20s??? *faints ..recites to self ' never leave california '*  congrats Ginger on new PR :)

    Did the Race for the Cure with Purr for the Cure team.. I think we did the 5k in about.. oooh an hour and 45 min....yes you read that right 1:45. its all good.. they were great ladies to chat with :) 

    10 days til RunDisneys Avengers...and the high will be 80.. low will be 50.. just got out hoodies out scarfs... back to shorts and tanks..;p

  • lovestorun
    lovestorun Member Posts: 167
    edited November 2014

    Congrats Odie & Ginger - that's fantastic.  Panthrah, your Purr for the Cure group sounds like a lot of fun.

    So it's only November, but I thought I'd see if there's anyone here who would want to take over the thread for 2015....PM me or post something here....

    Happy running all.

  • NatsFan
    NatsFan Member Posts: 3,745
    edited November 2014

    Congrats on everybody's runs!!

    Forgot to check in - did my 10K on November 2nd, sharing Odie's windy and blustery conditions - 41 degrees at race time with wind chills taking it down near freezing. ShockedThis was the target race for my 12 week running clinic and they picked a good one!   It was a challenging hilly course, but I could really feel the benefits of the training.  At one point, there was an almost mile-long uphill - before the clinic I'm pretty sure I would have run out of gas and walked at least part of it.  But all the interval training really helped, and I was able to just chug on up that big hill and have enough in the tank to tackle the remaining hills as well, and didn't have to stop or walk at all.  I didn't really notice any increase in speed, but the cold and wind may have had something to do with that as well - I swear there was a stiff headwind for most of the race!  But what I did notice was that I wasn't wiped out at the end - I had enough energy to mow the lawn and do other outside chores the rest of the day - usually I'm wiped out for the rest of the day after a 10K.  And I really wasn't sore the next day.  

    All in all, the clinic was really worthwhile.  I was undecided about whether to take the clinic, but when I posted here asking your advice on whether to take it, many of you had gone through similar clinics and urged me to do it.  Thank you so much for giving me that final nudge to register for it.  I learned about training strategies, interval training, race strategy, injury prevention, race nutrition, etc.  Plus it was a blast!  We ran in the heat, in the pouring rain, in the freezing cold, and on beautiful mornings. We ran all different trails in our county, and the group even went down to DC for one of the long runs, going past all the monuments.  My pace group got really close and we had a lot of fun training with each other.  Several of us plan on keeping in touch afterwards to coordinate our own group runs now and then.  

    If any of you have a local running club that offers clinics, I can highly recommend it.  Our club offers clinics for every level - from a couch to 5K to 10K to half to first time marathoners, and all the way up to experienced marathoner programs.  We had pace groups that ranged from under 9 minute miles to 14:30 minute miles, so there was a group for everyone.  A co-worker who is an experienced marathoner took the Experienced Marathoner clinic this fall and ran the Marine Corps Marathon - he's run it the last two years, but after finishing the training program, he shaved close to a minute off his time this year, finishing with an astounding pace of under 8 minute miles (yes he's young!).  I'll never see an 8 minute mile - heck I'll never see a 10 minute mile - but even for an old, fat, slow runner like me, the clinic was incredibly helpful.  They advertise the program as "take your running to the next level" and that's exactly what they did for me.  Here's DH and me in our official program shirts, just before the race. As you can see, we were bundled!!!

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  • sandpiper1
    sandpiper1 Member Posts: 952
    edited November 2014

    Mary....I am speechless.....wonderful share and so encouraged by your experience....

    You are awesome!

    xoxoxoxo

  • LuvLuLu
    LuvLuLu Member Posts: 377
    edited November 2014

    AWESOME Nats!  What a great picture. You look adorable!!

  • Ginger48
    Ginger48 Member Posts: 1,978
    edited November 2014

    great job, Nats!

  • panthrah
    panthrah Member Posts: 433
    edited November 2014

    Congrats!! sounds like you had amazing time and you rocked it!!

  • Tammy_M43
    Tammy_M43 Member Posts: 980
    edited November 2014

    Mary, you're a legend!!!

    I've been away for a while but this post is still rocking!  Well done lovely ladies!

  • lovestorun
    lovestorun Member Posts: 167
    edited November 2014

    What a beautiful smile Mary.  Congrats!

    Good luck this weekend Wine & Dine runners (aloha75, goldlining, tango58) and have a blast at Ragnar livininsunshine

  • dltnhm
    dltnhm Member Posts: 873
    edited November 2014

    Checking back in and updating because you were so kind to reply to my ganglion cyst inquiry.

    My primary care doc (who is head of internal medicine) said that's what it appeared to be and attempted to drain it with a syringe (Monday). Nothing came out. He said he would only try once and together with other things I brought up about my feet and knees thought I should see someone in sports medicine. That appointment was yesterday (
    Thursday) afternoon. So ... presented with my foot bump first (which it was agreed was a ganglion cyst) and followed with my list of smaller complaints:right knee gives out on me from time to time - doesn't happen often but almost always on stairs; ankle/foot pain in the morning - "walk like an old lady" which I attribute to the Tamoxifen; and right heel pain which must be plantar fascitis (I've had it before). Two residents (2nd and 3rd year) and the major doc took history and worked me over. LOL

    Doc said that he would lean toward doing nothing with the cyst unless it was giving me considerable difficulty or pain (which I had neither.) Then he states that he is much more concerned about the heel pain and would like to send me down to imaging. I know that the odds of mets in a foot are extremely rare ... but when he stated that concern, it's where my mind went first and I immediately asked what he thought. He said he believed it was possible that I had a stress fracture. Whew! Perspective. Perspective. At any rate ... what the image showed was a nice, knife-like bone spur on my heel. Lovely!! He said he could not rule out a stress fracture with just an x-ray but since the bone spur is likely the culprit, we will deal with that first. If there's no improvement, then he would send me to a podiatrist. Bottom line for me with that is that I don't have to stop running!!! My shoes don't have that many miles on them but I think I'm going to get fitted and try a pad/cushion for the bone spur. I have a list of exercises and already am realizing a difference from those. He ultrasounded the cyst and there is not much fluid showing in it. So we'll wait and see on that.

    A huge plus for me this week was a 7.14 mile run with a 9.52 pace. I'm not a fast runner at all .. so this was a big accomplishment for me :-)

    Thanks for being there runners!

    Anyone who wants to weigh in on anything ... I welcome your thoughts, opinions, advice, etc.

    Diana


  • odie16
    odie16 Member Posts: 1,882
    edited November 2014

    Diana, no words of wisdom just commisserating thoughts.

    Good luck tomorrow for all those running this weekend! Gonna take a trial run of the course for my Thanksgiving morning race..

  • panthrah
    panthrah Member Posts: 433
    edited November 2014

    dltnhm- that all sounds manageable :) so thats great :) I think 9.52 pace is great!!


    And yes good luck to all running Wine and Dine this weekend... soak up all that Disney Magic and try to not get water logged :p sandwich baggies for phones work well :)

  • LuvLuLu
    LuvLuLu Member Posts: 377
    edited November 2014

    Diana, just one comment . . . a 7+ mile run at 9:52 pace and you think you're slow??? Especially with all you've got going on? I guess it's all relative . . .

    Good luck at your races, this weekend everyone!

  • dltnhm
    dltnhm Member Posts: 873
    edited November 2014

    Luvlulu and Panthrah,

    I was thrilled with that pace. It was pushing it for me and I could feel it in my gut afterwards. Always have fancied myself more like the Energizer Bunny - I keep going and going. But if you asked me to sprint - forget it. What I meant about "slow" was compared to others who go out there and run faster on an everyday basis :0)

  • panthrah
    panthrah Member Posts: 433
    edited November 2014

    I celebrate finish lines not finish times. I only sprint if Im chasing after a student or a soccer ball :p

  • Trails
    Trails Member Posts: 22
    edited November 2014

    Hello fellow runners! I am so happy to have found this thread. My story, in a nutshell: I was diagnosed in May, in the middle of training for a trail ultramarathon. I had a lumpectomy in June, then ran the 50k race in August, and another 25k one in September for good measure, haha. I've since had a BMX with immediate reconstruction (5 weeks ago), and still feel like it is too soon to start running again, although I really want to. The recovery has, as you'd expect, been much worse than for the lumpectomy. I've been walking/hiking every day since week 1, but feel like I need some kind of magic sign from my body to let me know it's safe to run, which I haven't had yet. Sorry if this has been talked about previously on this thread, but for those who have had a BMX: how long before you started running again? How did you know the time was right?

  • dltnhm
    dltnhm Member Posts: 873
    edited November 2014

    Panthrah / I love that!

    Trails - you are definitely going to have to go with your gut instinct once/if cleared with your docs.

    I had a umx with immediate DIEP reconstruction - so not the same. Back to running at 6 weeks as soon as reconstruction surgeon cleared me. He would have let me run at 5 weeks without a bra. I'm not large chested but I won't run without a bra. So ... 6 weeks.

    You'll know. Great job with the walking and hiking!!!

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited November 2014

    Hi everyone. I've read and been inspired by the accomplishments across the board, but am dragging too much to express!

    Curious how aloha75 and tango58 found the WIneDineHalf. I had a hard time. It rained for 9 miles, and then started up again just as I got the medal. I took the snack box back to hotel - I already did the food and wine festival Friday, and I am back in a week or so to catch any other park highlights that I missed yesterday.

    That was a really tough outing, and I walked from mile 5 onward. My shoes were too wet and heavy to lift, given the pain in the hip. I even tripped over an uneven sidewalk and fell about mile 10 or so.

    I have to take my hip back to the physiotherapist. I am starting to wonder if the bottom of the spine needs to be adjusted, not just the muscles, but we know that the scar tissue in the DIEP abdominal reassembly is pulling me crooked. She broke up some last week, but I have the Avengers next weekend and would very much rather have less pain.

    I have not even looked at my time. It was so hard. I'm proud of myself for not flaking on it, but it was not fun. And by golly, I am going to drink this glass of wine before bed!

  • Tammy_M43
    Tammy_M43 Member Posts: 980
    edited November 2014

    Goldlining, it sounds like sheer willpower got you to the finish line. We can't ask ourselves to do more! I feel for you on the hip pain...not nice

  • LuvLuLu
    LuvLuLu Member Posts: 377
    edited November 2014

    Goldlining, you are my hero. Enjoy that glass of wine!

    You WILL know, Trails. The walking/hiking will make it a lot easier to get back. You will keep your aerobic fitness. I had TRAM reconstruction and began walking immediately. After probably about 4-5 weeks I began adding some very easy jogging from lightpole to lightpole. If anything makes you uncomfortable, don't do it. Once you've been cleared just go easy to start and add on from there . . .

  • panthrah
    panthrah Member Posts: 433
    edited November 2014

    Goldlining- Im sorry Wine and Dine was so hard :( How are you after the fall ?? Do you use KT tape? I have to tape my hip but at mile 10 it tends to yell at me the rest of the race. My last half my hip was over it at mile 2! Rest up.. drink your wine..biofreeze and rest. Pamper yourself til Avengers.. where we will have a high of 80 and no rain :) wear the medal with pride and def be proud of yourself for marching on!! I have heard looooots of medals have been breaking so check yours. again.. Im sorry the experience was less than stellar :(

  • odie16
    odie16 Member Posts: 1,882
    edited November 2014

    Goldlining, I am sorry you had such a rough time. Enjoy that glass of wine and hopefully your hip will feel better after the liquid refreshment.

  • dltnhm
    dltnhm Member Posts: 873
    edited November 2014

    Wow Goldlining -

    Rain for miles and miles and a trip and fall. So sorry that you had such a tough time of it.

    Hope you were able to soak in a hot tub and enjoy your snacks and such!

    You're a trooper for finishing!!

  • HockeyCat
    HockeyCat Member Posts: 222
    edited November 2014

    Panthrah, I loved what you said. "celebrate finish lines not finish times" I'll keep that in mind. I've been always chasing PR, but things are different now.... I finished my last chemo last Wednesday, haven't been able to go for a walk since due to many SEs. My first post-BC 5k coming up in 4 weeks. I'm hoping to get out for a walk today.

    Goldlining, congratulations on finishing W&D under such a rough condition. Hope your is is feeling better.

  • Oncearunneralwaysarunner
    Oncearunneralwaysarunner Member Posts: 252
    edited November 2014

    Natsfan - great report on the clinic. Im glad that you enjoyed it and saw improvement in your running. Sounds like you had a great race.

    Goldlining - sorry to hear that it was a rough one for you. I hope your hip is feeling better. Run Disney posted some pictures from the race and it looked like some heavy rain. I also do hope you had that glass of wine (or two) after the race.

    Dltnhm - as others have said, great job on the pace!

    Trails - welcome to the thread. I can't offer advice about when to start running after BMX but you have gotten good advice from others. It's one of those things you will just know when the time is right. I found that happened for me after every treatment I had.

    HockeyCat - I saw you had taxotere as part of your chemo. I found that stuff nasty. I had major bone and muscle pain and just going up a flight of stairs made my legs feel like I had just finished a marathon (unfortunately that's not an exaggeration!). That being said, I found that the feeling slowly went away the further I was from that last treatment and it was all gone in about 6 weeks from treatment. I'm just sharing so that you can see that the side effects should go away and that in four weeks things should be better.

    As for my training, it's going well. I did a 24k run on Sunday and that went well. Kept a pace that will keep the Disney pick up bus off my tail :) I'm forced to do a recovery week this weekend since my port is coming out Thursday and I have been told not to do any strenuous activity for a week :( I'm hoping to negotiate that on Thursday!

    I have a question for those of you who run with a sleeve and gauntlet or glove. Have you found that your fingers fall asleep when you run? I had that for the first time this weekend. My thumb and pinky fell asleep at about the 21k mark, just wondering if someone had that happen to them.

    Happy runs everyone!

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited November 2014

    Hi everyone - thanks!

    I had a massage and physio today. The thighs are okay. The shins are still a bit stiff. Hip is so so. No harm done by the fall. The working hypothesis is that breaking up the scar tissue in the abs (post-DIEP scars) eliminated all the structural support I had been using in the absence of any actual, you know, core muscle strength. So I have all these sit up and lying-on-a-ball things to do for the next several days to try to get the muscles activated. She also suggested a sacroiliac support belt and I'm going to check out how my water belt fits (I have one with a wide band) and possibly go pick up the sacroiliac band if necessary. I am really grateful to have such good support and encouragement from physio clinic. Whether it is strengthening, adjustments, breaking down scar tissue, or dry needling, it's been so encouraging to keep working on it.

    I braced myself to check my Wine & Dine time and it was 2:49. I was pacing 6:15/km in the first 5K with a great cadence of about 170, then 7:30 in the next couple of miles, but then past 5 miles, it was straight up walking, cadence 125-130, and pace of 8:30 - 9:00 per km. I just couldn't go any faster without injuring myself. Disneyland looks to be long-sleeve friendly but dry.

    Glad to see everyone making progress! Keep moving!

  • Trails
    Trails Member Posts: 22
    edited November 2014

    Well ladies, I tried to run today ... and could tell within 5 minutes it was too soon. It's frustrating - I am 5.5 weeks out from BMX now, and was really hoping to be back at it by now. Sigh.

    Goldlining, way to hang tough for the half! You sound like one tough cookie.

    Oncearunner, nice job on the 24k! I can't wait to be running those distances again. I see that you've been on Tamoxifen for a while. Can I ask how that's going for you? I am due to start in a month and am on the fence about whether the benefits would outweigh the side effects (my cancer has a low oncotype score, so low chance of recurrence).

  • HockeyCat
    HockeyCat Member Posts: 222
    edited November 2014

    Oncearunner, thank you for sharing. It's good to know this fatigue will eventually go away. I went for a walk yesterday and today. I felt good after, but now I feel so tired and am having mild fever. Baby steps...

    Goldlining, hope massage and physio helped. It takes time to recover from a half under tough condition. Take care!

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