Rockin' flatness like a bada$s
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I'm starting to waver over to the side of why do the reconstruction in my own case. I had the double matectomy and because of various skin issues due to treatments or other complications here I am still in a holding pattern. I already have the fake ones if I need to wear them and I went flat all summer and it was much better. I know that those who love me will support me in whatever I decide, at this point, reconstruction just looks like it never will happen for me and if I settle on not doing it after all, then I'll be happy to be the way I am, Flat or otherwise!
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welcome mommyof2 ! Flat is fabulous! -
Yeah, it is. Plus no one judges me about how I look on a bad day! They just accept it comes with the territory.
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Hi all. I'm new. I had a dm on Sept.30. I chose dm because that's what I want. The docs didn't want to do that but it's my choice, right?
I'm glad I've found you!
WT
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Yes it is!
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Welcome, WhiteTiger!
I haven't been back here for a while, so time for a little update. When I
returned to the BS to discuss my final decision, I did expect some resistance
and was prepared for it. I did not expect the resistance to be so overt and
unbending. I left feeling unsure whether I'd wake up from surgery with extra
skin or not! I called a few days later and spoke to the nurse, who was very
understanding; I later spoke to the BS, who seemed to finally understand that I
wasn't changing my mind. But I did also get a second opinion from a BS that I've
heard very good things about (my original BS also has an excellent reputation,
BTW, which made this all so much more difficult). It took me several days to
listen to my heart--on Friday afternoon, I canceled surgery. I am now waiting on a call-back to get scheduled with my new BS. I do have to say, though--we really must stick up for ourselves and be
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Hello White Tiger and welcome to the Flat gang.Lilith: I'm glad you are getting things sorted out with your surgery and having a surgeon who is listening to what you want!
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I'm 29 and just diagnosed with DCIS. I requested bilateral mastectomy, and I do not plan to reconstruct. I have a busy life to get back to and can't imagine every feeling comfortable with implants in my body. I'm keeping my mind open to the possibility that I may decide to experiment with wearing prosthetics, but I live in Houston (hot and humid) and I just don't think I will want to bother. After a decade of problems with my breasts, I hope I find I was much more relieved to be breast-free than anyone (including me) anticipated. Thank you for posting this. It seems like everyone I know is shocked by the idea of not being reconstructed. It's nice to see that other women feel the same way I do.
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There are many of us who feel that way. I live in hot and humid FL so I feel you on that! However, you may want to get foobs in the future. Sometimes I get dressed up and the dress looks better with a bust,, so I have bras and a foob for those occasions. There are MANY kinds of foobs,, some are not so hot and heavy and you have to experiment. Being in a large city, hopefully you have a shop nearby where you can check out what is available. Insurance usually pays for foobs and a few bras a year,, something else to keep in mind. My local shop will bill insurance for me.Most of the time, I'm wearing compression and I just don't bother with anything else!
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Hi M26, I agree with Glennie, totally up to you! There are many of us and the numbers are growing. These BS will have to come to terms with the fact that women don't always feel they need breasts, to be a woman.
I live in HOT Australia and I have a wardrobe, affectionately known around here as the "FoobMoire" full of different foobs, boobs and bras and camisoles. I am a little different, to you, in that I have one natural breast, opting for a Umx, but I too sometimes wear a compression or shape wear tank, like Glennie, which rails in the rogue puppy, on the other side.
I say, let everyone be shocked, it isn't them making the decisions here, or the ones having to live with the outcome. It isn't all about them! Tell them so!
Take a look at some of the great and powerful photos on the internet, of women who have made the decision to go flat. There is The Scar Project, which has a mixture of recon and no recon, for me, I see such power in the non reconstructed pictures. There is also Breastfee.org which is a site belonging to one of our members here. She has pics and lots of information that could be of interest to you. Then there is the FB page Flat and Fabulous. There are also threads on this forum specifically for women who decide against recon.
You're not alone!
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Hi, Mommy2Six! I had PMBX just 8 days ago. I knew from the start that I wanted to go flat, but entertained other people's ideas for a while. I know it's still early days for me, but so far, so good.
To be perfectly honest, even though flat is what I wanted and had to fight for, and having seen a bunch of pictures online of different results, the first look at myself in the mirror was a little bit hard to take. But I'm getting used to it already, and am ready to give it several months to see how things will really look. But, as I made my case to several of my close circle, I don't think it will be terribly noticeable on me--I've always been small-breasted and I've never worn revealing clothing. I was an A cup until I gained weight in my mid thirties and am now barely a B. (Sorry...was barely a B until last week).
My BFF has come to stay with me from out of town this second week of recovery and she asked me if I'm really doing as well as I appear to be, or am I hiding my feelings. I suppose it's possible that the reality of my new appearance will hit me later on, like when I have to start dressing in my usual clothes, going back to work, entertaining the thought of dating (which I haven't done in about 4 years) and whether I'd present myself as I am or in foobs. But for right now, I honestly feel just fine! As I told my BFF, for 20 years my breasts have been more of a foe than a friend; I've never had a particularly fond attachment to them; and they've never defined me, at least not in a positive way. Frankly, it's a relief to be rid of them, in a sense.
So, that's my view as a new "flatsy". I applaud you for listening to your own desires. Follow your own heart. If other people at first find it odd to see you flat, my guess is that they'll soon get used to it. That's what I'm hoping for on my end--and as long as they see that I'm comfortable, happy, and not self-conscious about it, I think the getting used to it will be easier for them.
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Hi Lilith,,, sounds like you are doing well 8 days post op!! -
Re: people noticing. Before mx, I was a 44DDD. That was when people noticed my chest. Since they've been gone, I've gone totally flat – never even gotten foobs. No one notices. So my theory is, people only notice if you've got them, not if you don't. That may be a little different with folks who've known you for a long time, but they get used to the new look pretty fast. I don't miss them at all. Don't miss bras, underboob sweat, the weight of the dang things (I lost about 15 lbs in mx), or stiff nips when it's cold out. Nope, don't miss em at all.
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glennie, I think I'm doing pretty darned well, too! I'm now two weeks out from BMX--underarms feeling much better, but then I also haven't started any real exercises yet. Have to look into that; so damned happy to be able to sleep on my side again, though sometimes I do have to take a break for an hour or so and switch to my back for a bit; range of motion getting better every day, too! I've even made it back into my beloved T-shirts, ever since Day 9--I feel so much more like myself
And as for rockin' flatness? Yes, yes I did--Day 10, I wore my one and only Halloween T-shirt which is really a bit small for me since I gained a good 20 lbs in the past 2-3 years. I asked my best friend, who was staying with me, "Too flat too soon?" She said no, I looked perfectly fine. And so I went out in public as flat as flat can be, and rocked that T-shirt!
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Rock it, Lilith!!Glad you are doing well. Get your doctor to send you to PT for a few sessions, so you can get some good exercises. And maybe a RX for massage, if your insurance will cover it! Hey, why not???
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Lilith: You rock!
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Still rockin' the flatness here. I think I freak out the neighbors by going to the mailbox in just a tee shirt,,, somehow they can't stop themselves from glancing at my chest. **snickers** -
Hi Everyone,
I am newly diagnosed in one breast. I don't have my prognosis yet and haven't seen a breast surgeon because of insurance red tape, so I am just processing all the possibilities. I have always been strongly disinclined to getting fake breasts or using a prosthetic if this ever happened, because 10 years ago I read "The Cancer Journals" and everything Audre Lorde said really hit home with me. After reading more about recon procedures online, I feel 100% sure I don't want fake breasts and complicated surgeries. I also don't want to bother with a prosthetic. It seems like a crazy headache with no point.
So the question is, how extreme do I want to be? Even if they don't need to do a mastectomy, I'm guessing my breast will be deformed after lumpectomy. My breasts are large, and I don't want two different sized breasts. I am also 34 and don't want to have to go through this over and over for the rest of my life (I'm thinking that cutting them off will make it less likely cancer will come back.) I also don't want a uni-boob, especially since they are so big. I'm starting to go stir crazy waiting to get the full picture. I'm so glad to find this forum. I am going to my first in-person support group today, but I know I will have to be a little more sensitive about what I say there than on a forum that is celebrating flatness.
Thanks for reading.
Emily
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Emily, It's a hard choice to make and the important thing is that you're happy with what you decide. There are several threads that go into the advantages and disadvantages of each possible choice. They'll give you various points to think about. Not seeing the BS yet gives you time to explore what you want. Welcome here and come back any time.
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Hi Emily,,, what Wren said. There are a couple of threads called "lumpectomy versus mastectomy" something like that. That will give you lots of information to consider for your decision. Look for Beesie's notes which were posted,, I think,, by Ruthbru,,,, they are extremely informative.Sorry that you find yourself here, but welcome. Rant, ask questions,,,
glennie
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On Monday I tell my BS that I want a BMX, not just a lumpectomy, and I want to go flat. Thank you all so much for this amazing thread. I was torn between my choices and here, I found my people.
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KQHill, check out I Look for Other Flat Chested Women, Rant. I've posted there. I go flat 24/7. It's all in the flatitude.
Edited for grammatical error.
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I chose not to do a reconstruction after a left mastectomy I am very pain averse so when the surgeon talked about chest expanders and repeated visits to a plastic surgeon it was game over for me. My natural boobs are small so my right one is AA. A lumpectomy was not an option being so small and having a large tumor in the ducts and lobules (and lots of calcification around it).
I sometimes go out without the bra and prosthetic. Gotta say the prosthetic hurts and all the bras (even cancer bras) hurt my sides and my scars.I choose to wear nothing at home, and I am getting to the point where I don't even want to where the bras and prosthetic when I go out. I still feel strange when I look in the mirror, like I am part fish on one side.
No one ever told me that they take the pectoral muscles too! I knew I would be flat but actually we have an indent don't we? I hope I don't get a recurrence but I don't know what I would do if the right side went as well. Maybe keep it flat and even or maybe go for the reconstruction??? It really is a tough and personal decision either way.
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Hi ozbell,
In most cases, the pectoral muscles are not removed, but I think sometimes if the cancer is encroaching they are. Did you actually ask your surgeon about that? Some of us, even if the pectoral muscles are left intact, look more concave than others.
I'm sorry you're uncomfortable wearing a breast form and bra. I had to do a lot of experimenting to find some comfortable options. Going flat is definitely comfortable, but I'm not there yet mentally and not sure I'll ever be. Many women who go flat say no one seems to notice, but when I look in the mirror at myself, I notice, and it's hard for me to believe others wouldn't also. I run the non-profit website, BreastFree.org, and feel great about my decision not to have reconstruction, but I still prefer not to draw attention to my flatness when I'm out in public, though I admire those who go flat and feel fine about it.
Good luck trying to figure out a solution that works for you!
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Hi Erica. No I didn't even think to ask about the pects. I think my small size left them no choice??? But the margins were clean so no radiation, not enjoying SEs from hormone pills.
I had only one side removed, the one with the tumor. I go out braless sometimes with certain style clothes (not form fitting tight), having a really small right breast makes it easier to "get away" with it. But when I look in the mirror I notice it too, but I also know that I don't look that off balance either. Will check out site!
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Ozbell, I'm conclave on one side, opted for a BMX. Asked my GYN about it and he told me that it had to do with how my breast tissue was attached to my chest. Makes sense to me as one side "drooped" a little more than the other. I was a D cup.
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They had to take my pec muscle, the tumor was sitting right on it, so it had to be sacrificed to get clean margins. It certainly does look weird, but no one else will ever see it anyway, besides doctors. I do feel like it's not socially acceptable to go out in public with one breast, so I wear padded bras when I go out, but around the house I don't bother. If a neighbor stops by, or the mailman, or whatever, I don't care what they think. It took time to get to that mindset, though.
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Hello ladies! I was wondering if any of you can suggest lingerie which is flattering for women with no breasts? I refuse to wear fakes, but im not comfortable being naked during intimacy yet either. Thanks so much!
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katindc that was one of the biggest surprises, ending up somewhat inverse in instead of flat.
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littleblueflowers, i have slips like this one that have no underwire. They give the ballerina effect.
https://www.victoriassecret.com/bras/just-in-dream...
Also bralettes are nice. Lacy ones or patterns can work to hide assymetry or concavity.
https://www.victoriassecret.com/bras/just-in-dream...
These were ones I saw tonight from one retailer, but you get the idea and they can be found anywhere, even discount bigbox stores.
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