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  • skbrown
    skbrown Member Posts: 40
    edited October 2014

    blownaway, I am also going to the woodlands.  I have appt. Nov. 13 for a consultation with Pamela Schlembach.  since you go before work, do you find that easier than after work?  I heard that 1st thing in the morning was better because they tend to fall behind in the afternoons and it takes longer. 

    anyone, what are these tattoos y'all keep talking about.  are they permanent?  how do you get radiation laying on you stomach?

  • Blownaway
    Blownaway Member Posts: 760
    edited October 2014

    Oahu711 - The volunteers at MD Anderson make the cutest little heart shaped pillows (homemade) and keep a basket of them available all the time in the waiting room of the breast center for anyone who wants one to take. They fit perfectly under the arm to help relieve the pain after lymph node surgery. I was too stupid to realize what they were to be used for until after my surgery had already stopped hurting.

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited October 2014

    SKBrown, yes, the tattoos are permanent.  That's the idea.  They help the therapists line up everything and they don't wash off.  Some centers use markers.  My tats are well below my bra line - one on each side of my rib cage and one in the center.  They are TINY and you have to look for them to see them.  Some women want to get rid of them as soon as they are done with their rads.  I see no reason to.  To each his own :)

  • lilyrose53
    lilyrose53 Member Posts: 216
    edited October 2014

    SKBrown - like Peggy said, the tattoos are permanent.  I got 5...3 on my breast and 2 on my ribs.  They are pretty small-I have moles bigger than them.  :)  I am getting rads on my right side so there was no issue with my heart.

    They have baskets of those little heart shaped pillows at my Cancer center too.  I used one behind my neck while getting chemo.  It was super comfortable.  My RO suggested cornstarch in my underarm area to prevent irritation.

    Hoping you are all doing well.  lilyrose

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited October 2014

    Lilyrose, I preferred to stink.  I didn't use corn starch nor Tom's of Maine (well, I tried it and was allergic).  I was very happy to slather on the Dove Deodorant when I finished my rads last week!

  • Puffin2014
    Puffin2014 Member Posts: 961
    edited October 2014

    I took some photos at radiation today and thought I'd post here for those who haven't started - the unknown is always scarier than the known.


    This
    is the radiation room. While I lay on my back the equipment in the back
    swings forward on each side of me, first to take pictures to verify my
    alignment, then the orange piece moves to my right side, then my left
    side and then directly above me to direct where the radiation beam go.

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    This
    started out as a squishy bean bag under my head and arm. After the team
    had me positioned correctly the air was sucked out of it to make a firm
    mold, leaving depressions for my head and arm

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    The mural on the ceiling of my radiation room

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  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited October 2014

    My radiation room looked much different than yours, Puffin.  

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    Radiation room.  White is where I laid down.

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    All set for my rads.  What's my gown doing covering my 6 pack abs?  It was gone by the time they started.  

    X-rays were taken every time and sent to the RO to check.  I did NOT have a lovely mural to look at like Puffin did.  Just boring ceiling.

    It definitely was not scary to me - ever.  I was very glad there was something to do to kill the cancer cells!

  • MarieNJ
    MarieNJ Member Posts: 231
    edited October 2014

    Hi Ladies -

    This Monday, I will be 2 weeks past having radiation.  My breast is still reddish and swollen.  I am putting Eucrin, an antibiotic cream and another prescribed cream on at different intervals.  Does anyone know when the breast returns to normal?

    Marie

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited October 2014

    MarieNJ, I'm still swollen too, I think.  It's hard to tell whether from radiation or left over from my lumpy.  I'm 1 week past my last rad today.  I had 33 tx.  The redness is fading but I think the scars are still dark.  And my nipple and areola are REALLY dark.  I'd guess we'll be back to normal or close to it in 2 or 3 more weeks. 

  • jeanelle
    jeanelle Member Posts: 179
    edited October 2014

    7 out of 30 treatments done.  About a 1/4 of the way through.  I still don't have any side effects. I have been using the lotion that they told me to use 2 times a day.  I also started PT yesterday. I found myself stiffer last night than I have been since surgery.  

    Sounds like you are doing really well Peggy!  I hope you hubby is doing well.

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited October 2014

    Jeanelle, I am doing pretty good.  Hubby seems to be improving too.  Thanks!

  • clarrn
    clarrn Member Posts: 557
    edited October 2014

    I just finished #7 too.  Getting pink and one small open area on my incision line.  I have been napping 4+ hours each afternoon and even if I get out of bed after 2 hours I fall asleep wherever I am sitting. I am continuing to do at least 30 minutes of moderate exercise a day which is supposed to help the fatigue,  but I can't stop sleeping!  Good thing my mom is here to help with my toddler!  It is still much better than chemo fatigue for me, and no nausea or muscle/bone pain, so I can actually function when awake :)  For now at least!  

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited October 2014

    I am down to my boost for rads and I am hitting the wall with exhaustion. I have 5 left to go and his 7am appt sounded like a good idea but I am tired. My hair has finally started to come back and it's coming back with a vengeance EVERWHERE. I had to get the tweezers out for the chin yesterday. Grr. 

    I heard that breast shrinkage can happen months later :(

  • MarieNJ
    MarieNJ Member Posts: 231
    edited October 2014

    Jaimieh,

    That is funny you should say that.  My hair is growing fast everywhere else, but I'm patiently waiting for it to come in more on my head!

    Marie

  • Imheretoo
    Imheretoo Member Posts: 217
    edited October 2014

    I guess I should say Hi instead of just spying on you gals!     I did day 3 of rads today, after getting a quadrantectomy on August 22.      I must say, I think I'm jealous of the back and arm molds you all seem to get made to hold you in position, and I am most definitely jealous of Puffin's peaceful ceiling "window" view!    

    No molds done where I am, and I'm kind of confused about what they do on day one of rads versus the other days, and how they make sure things are lined up as they should be.    I did get a CAT scan.     They didn't lay any wires on me during that procedure, like MommyQ described, but it felt like they put some pieces of tape on me that they then took off.     Then, my first day of set up and rads lasted about an hour and a half of me staying perfectly still and holding whatever position they moved me into.   I lay down with my head in a little cupped head holder and hand grabbing a rod that was above my head.    (The was the same as was done during the CAT scan).     RO made an X with a marker at the base of my nipple.  (in addition to the two tattooos they did on CAT scan day)    They kept pushing and pulling my body, trying to get some perfect postition that they said was "straight", and moving my arm so that I grasped the rod in the perfect way and had my elbow at just the right height.      During this time, they took multiple X-rays, and kept coming back with the RO to nudge me some more.    They kept saying that things just didn't line up with where they were during my CAT scan.    I think tried five times with five X-rays.   The RO  seemed to be getting frustrated and would pull up the skin on my chest (which moved my nipple higher) and say "See, it's right.   Let's do the (something-or-other)", and the tech kept saying "But it's still too cranial!, it's too cranial!", because, of course, my nipple went back down once she let go.    (or at least that's what it seemed to me was going on.    I just stayed still and quiet.)       Finally the RO says to me "just put yourself the way that feels straight to you", and ordered the techs to not straighten me out.    (I happen to have a very crooked spine.)     Apparently that miraculously put me in exactly the right position and everything lined up as it did on CAT scan day (or so they said--- hope they weren't just tired of it all by then!)       And so my first treatment got done.      The next day they just had me plop down again, with only the head cup and hand bar to guide placement.      I think they did 2 X-rays yesterday, with the RO coming in to make the X on my nipple and change something about the postion in between.    Total time of that session was a half hour.      They told me that there would be another session like that and then next week it would go faster.    Today, they were clearly behind schedule-- think they had a machine problem this morning.    So they were in a big rush to catch up.    I plopped down on the table, grabbed the bar, and the treatment was all done and over in five, maybe ten minutes.     Not sure if they did an X-ray.    (The machine did do something directly above me before going to the side-- Is it always an X-ray when the machine is above you??)        Before they went off into the other part of the room, they seemed to be lining up with only the two tattoos (I have one on my side and one between my two breasts) and they didn't care at all that the X on my nipple had wiped off -- They said it didn't matter .      (Did that serve only for some measurements they needed to take on those first days to set the machine right??? )   I'm just confused about how I'm always going to plop down into exactly the same postion and grab the bar in exactly the same way, and seems like the back mold you guys do is important.     Also, seems like it would help you keep from letting your elbow drift up or down, changing your breast position.   

    Anyway--- It is what it is and I'll just count on them knowing what they're doing!

    During my treatments, they cover my cancer breast with something that feels kind of like the shield garments they use during X-rays (but that wouldn't make any sense, so it must be something else)       No-one else here is mentioning that-    Wonder what that does??

      

  • Blownaway
    Blownaway Member Posts: 760
    edited October 2014


    I'm here too - It's called a "bolus" and it fools the radiation machine into thinking that is your skin and the radiation goes in more shallow right there. My center is very careful each time about positioning me on the mold and lining me up with laser beams in the room and remarking my various colored markings on the breast, abdomen, ribs. I feel like I'm getting good care.

  • mortmain
    mortmain Member Posts: 63
    edited October 2014

    Hello, all:

    Newbies and Aquaphor: I did the slather after rads, ended up at work with a big grease mark from the goo.  Silly me not to put a cloth over it at the time, but you can bet I did ever after!

    I've been done with rads for a couple of weeks. I had only minor complaints during, but I've been massively foggy-brained/fatigued in the past week.  I can deal with this too, was told to expect it. Will be happy when this is over, though. PontiacPeggy, I too started the Arimidex, been on now for a week.  Are we supposed to get tired from this too?

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited October 2014

    Mortmain, we started on the same day!  I don't think so on getting tired from it.  But then again I think the SEs listed on the printout included everything known to man.  I've only been done with my rads a week.  I *think* I'm not quite as tired but it's hard to tell since I was beyond exhausted when I started them and had lots of drama going on during them.  

    BTW, I only put on the Aquaphor at night.  Seemed to do okay.  

    Nice to be further along our journey, isn't it?

  • Imheretoo
    Imheretoo Member Posts: 217
    edited October 2014

    Thanks Blownaway!     I guess, even though it feels like it covers my whole breast, it's actually different in the area that directly goes over scar area?      I thought they did the bolus in the last days of treatment, but maybe in me they're doing it in first days instead.      Maybe the X on my nipple mattered only for lining things up for the bolus, and that's why they didn't care that it was barely visible yesterday, and told me it doesn't matter if it totally wipes off.     

  • Agent99
    Agent99 Member Posts: 118
    edited October 2014

    I have been joking about my coloring book torso with all the marker lines drawn all over me BUT I had no idea some people get real tattoos that will be there forever, I will shut up now about the markers! Yikes

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited October 2014

    Agent99, I have no problem with my tats being permanent.  A reminder that I spent 6-1/2 weeks killing cancer and I was glad to have it available.  And they are not noticeable either.

  • Gilesmt
    Gilesmt Member Posts: 65
    edited October 2014

    hi, everyone. 20/33 down, the end is finally coming. Still very little to no problems. Started to feel itchy this week, RO gave me some betamthesone cream, helped sometimes, like at night but I could still feel the itch during the day. If you ever beast fed a baby, that is what this feels like, the itch and slight pain you get after the baby is born and the breast start to fill up, the itch around your nipples and tingling around the breast. Problem is you can't pick up the baby fed it and stop the itch. So it is more like an annoying itch, than a pain, but I am afraid the it may break down. I still only have a very very slight pink on one side. Hardly noticeable. So all in all, nothing really to complain about. Unless I can complan about the fact that one breast is starting to look, firmer, harder and more like I am back in my twenties and the other is still going south. I asked them to start rads on that breast just so they both can look the same. 

    As for fatigue, none yet, still working out daily. Actually I am sleeping less, I several times this week was not tired at 11 so stayed up longer, was afraid I would not be up in morning to get to rads by 8, but that has not happen and I have not taken a nap all week. Of course I am not working and I don't have little ones. But I am looking for work, going to PT, blood work clinics thru AMS for the clots, and rads, as well as working with federation for the blind to build my case of discrimination. Which all takes lots of time. 

    Well, hope you all do well this week and that it all goes as well for you as it is for me. I'll keep you all in prayer.

  • Susug
    Susug Member Posts: 193
    edited October 2014

    Hey  Gilsemt ,  Im 20/33 my skin is doing well like you ,I do have some itching that stared this week. Dr is pleased with my skin. I do have some fatigue but it's strange it comes in waves  one min I feel great then an hour later I need to take a nap  not complaining  from what I have read on here it could be a lot worse. Oh I have a few small little bumps that have appeared  they itch. Use Cardozone cream works great.

  • hubermel
    hubermel Member Posts: 15
    edited October 2014

    This looks almost exactly like my treatment room! 

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited October 2014

    Hubemel, mine is at 21st Century Oncology located at St Joe's Oakland (in Pontiac).  Where are you?

  • hubermel
    hubermel Member Posts: 15
    edited October 2014

    GilesMT - Thanks. That's a very helpful description. I've been starting to feel that heaviness and tenderness at 6 of 18 radiation treatments.

    Were you working out before treatments and just kept up?  

    I haven't been very active and certainly don't feel like starting anything with this fatigue and fogginess setting in.

    But from what I've been reading it would probably help me if I did start.

    When they told me I might be a little tired from radiation and I think my husband, kids (9,11) and I just laughed.

    We couldn't believe I could be anymore tired than I already am!!!

    I've been fighting fatigue this entire past decade since the kids were born. lol!

  • hubermel
    hubermel Member Posts: 15
    edited October 2014

    PontiacPeggy -- Mine in Lansing looks like Puffin's.  I have mountain scenery though. I would rather have the flowers. I'm not a big fan of snow ;-)

    btw, being the newbie here I thought that when I hit "reply" I was actually replying to a specific post, not just the entire thread. This is a bit different than other social forums.   I'm working on getting the hang of it!

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited October 2014

    That's okay, HubeMel.  We all would appreciate having a "like" button, too, as well as replying to a specific posting.  That's why you see us using names in our replies :)  

    I had NO scenery at my radiology facility.  Not a fan of any season but summer! 

    Anyway, welcome to the place none of us want to be in but are so glad for all the resources and friends we've made here.

  • hubermel
    hubermel Member Posts: 15
    edited October 2014

    Thanks PontiacPeggy!!

    Yes, I am thankful for the great resources and people I have encountered on this journey!!!

    And I think this diagnosis, caught early, will be the kick in the pants I need to make good health changes for our whole family.

    I'm sorry you don't/didn't have any scenery!!! 

    Personally I would like my ceiling scenery to be this view from the hammock taken by my friend who lives in Hawaii :-)

    They should at least give you a poster.

    image

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited October 2014

    Lovely picture.  I could live with that view :)  I finished my rads on the 16th.  Good luck with all the changes you plan to make.  I'm sure they will be helpful.

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