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Chevy Of course I had to find the guys correct name and spelling. Then that lead to a reading. All colleges reqire a course in philosophy and Nietzsche is always studied. Did a Wiki read to find his name. He and the whole concept of Nilhism- SUCKs. I would love to sit as a student in that type of class..........oh what hell I would raise. Actually, did it once. Took a class when I was 38*, on western civ. The seminar class, that days discussion about Napoleon. Based on the questions raised by the grad student leading the discussion, I asked/surmised based on info, if Napoleon was impotent. Basically, everyone was aghast. If there was a visual of everyone's faces. I was elderly by the class group. AND that was a relevant question. The grad student went on at length-----------only got a partial answer, but knew by behavior and words that the grad student was seriously challenged to provide a response. Fun. -
Nope never had a philosophy course. I had to google Mr/Dr. Nietzsche (believe it or not he's in the dictionary on here). Have a BA in Biology with Chem minor and never had a fine arts course. Took sociology & psychology only as fill in electives, never required. But you must remember back then I was a pre-med major. DH was horrified I'd never had any fine arts. Honey I was a science major. Not required back then, didn't give a flip for "well rounded". They didn't care. BSN required FA course.
Oh what a rabble rouser you were. Impotent. Did some of the other students hide under their chairs?
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LMG Oh yeah, Particularly when another student said --a guy-- said in a different scenario hurry up with what you're saying. It was a "pardon me?" I said to the rest of the women in the room are you ready to put up with that?" I asked the poor grad student if he was going to correct the situation. Then asked if the other women were willing to accept the response. I walked out.. Came back at next class after grad student said he wouldn't let it happen again.
It was one of those things in time, possibly made a difference in those young minds, that may have helped later.
LMG I had a free ride------scholarship-----tuition , books, room, board----walked away in my third year b/c I wanted nursing. The university didn't have a nursing program. I hired in after freshman year at a local hospital. I wanted to see if nursing was truly my calling. My joke and seriousness was, I was observing everything from the bottom up. In the time period, I observed BSN's couldn't find there way out of anything. I chose after my third year to leave and go to a hospital based nursing program because I wanted to know how to function when I became a nurse.
For anyone else reading this. In the later 70's as BSN programs became more prevalent as Hospital based programs were closed. What then happened is hospitals had to do preceptor programs to teach the skills . The BSN programs were sorely lacking on teaching skills
. I had my own floor on nights about 5 weeks into hiring. Some would say the patients are much more complicated now. NOT, MY floor was pre& post cardiac caths. Post step down from CCU post step down unit, Post coronary surgery patients. That was 1974...23 bed unit. I got a second nurse around 12 patients. I drove nursing management wild with the complaints that increased staffing was needed. Enough that I left that unit after 4 months. Took the same scenario over the next 8 months , then staffing was increased.
YEARSYEARs later 1988, my last shift at that hospital was spent on a night shift on that unit that went to a different place in the hospital. MY ratio was 1:12, that final night was 1:6.
Two amazing memories that night are 1. I had floated to the floor allot towards the end, I learned to go in early and read the telemetry boards b/c dx's weren't right. I found that a particular chart showed a 3* heart block. It was recorded at 5 pm. time stamp. In report it was said " NSR with junctional beats". I said " Please, I'm a float and don't mean to piss anyone off, but this person has been in 3rd degree HB at least since 5pm--then 11pm. There were 15 people behind me. Report ended. Two residents were called. Not my patient. They were all trying to figure it out. They finally asked how I knew this, taught them. Then told them when they called the doc, who we( doc & I) both started together 14 years earlier that it was me. 2nd occurrence that night. --nurse comes to me and asks what she should do. Remember I'm the float. Patient heart rate around 40. Said lets look at telemetry history. Came in with a heart rate of say about 170, next question was lets look at the chemicals given. Patient given Verapamil over X time. Progressive slowing. Right there on the telemetry history the track of slowing documented over multiple shifts. Drug worked well. First question you didn't give another dose? Hold the dose and call the doc.
LMG maybe inappropriate to talk of such here......... but memory walking has a satisfaction.
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Sas - I can see you in that philosophy class! It would be fun. I went to a Catholic college and took an ethics class given by an expriest married to an exnun... nightmare. A Jesuit and a nun OY! No hope for ANY discussions on anything other then the vatican position. I'm not Catholic but the education was great - except that class - horrid. The idiot yelled at us for not talking and engaging in discussions, but he attacked you if you said anything other then what "he deemed truth." So we all sat there bullied into being silent. I loved the other priest who taught old and new testament, even if I came from a different tradition. Philosophy classes are fun, loved the banter and dialogue.
Funny about the squirrel in your yard. I have a 9, almost 10 year old border collie who will chase anything for sport. (except our cats - bop her!) Then we have this little terrier mix(4 yrs old chihuahua/doxie/russel) 17 pounds of auto pilot - dumb. Just a few brain cells - eat, pee, poo, chase itch... Great rodent catcher. I chased that dog all over the yard trying to get her to drop a mole. Nope - her take, I caught this one - get your own mole! Well we had the cutest baby squirrel and the little nutcase he was would take a chance at eating the seed pods on our tulip tree. Damn if I didn't come home one day to find his wee little body stiff near the back door. I buried him in the flowers. So sad. I was so mad at the dogs.. they just sat there looking at each other - "she did it - not me!" grrr.
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Decided memories over work need not be here! I'm retired woohooo.
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OKAY ROSE, Let the torpedoes fly. You so get the following statement " I had twelve years of nuns(circa 1956-1968) , and three years of Jesuits(circa-1968-1971). --"I have NO CLUE what normal is and I have no sense of humor" ----i.e as a child, young adult -IHM's, Felicians, and Jesuits. AND on top of that I was abused.------so, the most screwed up situation of all, and I'm sane-------------isn't that nice.....Well, I pretend really well.
I married a guy who went through essentially the same. We left the church right after marriage. We just couldn't coexist with the church's rulings at the time. Life went on..................
We were dx'd with CA three months apart. Talk about trials and testing of faith.
But at the near end of the Dh's life, something's happened. A priest was going to come into the room, I saw the collar. Drew him in. Asked for his blessing. Told him we had not been practicing Catholics , but we wanted the Mass. Fr. T. said no problem he would be their for Greg. He gave us his card. Our county is 65 miles long, the hospital basically is in the middle. Turned out that Fr.T was the pastor at the parish that was where we should be going to. He gave Greg a beautiful service.
How did that occur?
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Sassy, Nietzsche was a nihilist and an atheist. He'd say life is essentially meaningless and there is no ordering factor (such as G-d) so we create rules to make sense of it all. The mindless masses blindly follow but the superior (the 1% ?) don't have to, they're strong enough to just take what they want. I'd rather live in my world, where altruism is a core value. ♥
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hey badger - glad you checked in.
Hope everyone is sleeping pain free tonight
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guess everyone is still asleep. Yea a good night rest makes a huge difference. I know you are up Chevy. Probsbly having your coffee. I see you usually post very early.
So I feel a lot better. No more fever. Kept some crackers down and now can't sleep all night. That always happens to me after being sick in bed a couple days then I can't sleep cause my body is sick of sleeping. Does that happen to you guys also? So much to catch up on - housework stuff.
Hootie hoo
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Good Morning little rebels! Sass, I just love reading about what you did
before I knew you! You actually SAID that about Napoleon out LOUD? I might
have said something like that now, but couldn't have before, like when I was
younger!Cammi, did you read all this? I mean about Sassy and that heart block
thing? I actually KNOW about that, because when I took DH to the Dr. they took
his BP..... then took their time.... blah, blah.... Then when they went out to
get the cardiogram machine, I went out WITH her, and said "Would you guys please
check for congestive heart failure? Because this sounds like what my Mom had!"
So they got the Doc, he came in, they took his pulse, and it was 32. That's why
he had not been able to barely take a step! It was supposed to be around
70!They called off the blood work, told us they would send for an ambulance,
by this time, we were both kind of worried! DH said, "no, that's okay, we'll
just drive over there...."...... (and stop for a quarter-pounder at McDonalds on
the way....) JUST kidding....And we got there, they had been WAITING, thinking we would come by
ambulance...So that just goes to show you, SOMEtimes no-one knows what the hell is
going on.... even us.Sass, the Priest coming, reminded me of another time DH was in sooooo much
pain with Epiditimitis....THAT is an infection of the Epidimus tube that they
have that runs back & forth from the male parts to the other male parts or
something!So after examination, they admitted him.... Some AH Doctor came in, and
said, well it looks like Prostate Cancer...... It just took our breath
away....We were soooooooooo afraid at that time.... I was ready to cry.... And he
was just laying there.... so scared.A Priest walked by, and asked, "would you like for me to say a prayer for
you?" And we said, okay, sure.... We couldn't have been more heart-broken by
this time........ So he prayed with us..... and after a few minutes, another
Doctor peeked in and said......... "Just wanted to let you know the tests came
back negative for cancer!"I just cried.... I just knew it was the Priest! At just the right
time!!! I honestly do.So now I wanted to haul-ass down the hall and find that other Doc who had
the B###s to tell us he had prostate cancer, and beat the S### out of him!Just want to say Sassy, you are so knowledgeable about "stuff"..... And I
am glad to be a part of your life! Okay, let's go have a glass of wine on that
thought!Morning Rosie... Your squirrel and dog stories are priceless! A little
sad for the "little body" but you tell them so funny!And I never HEARD of this guy numbnuts or whatever his name was! I have
heard of Psychology, atheist, but no Nitshlitz or whatever.Hi Peppermint! You have a clue what anyone is talking about?
Yes, I am up.... let's have coffee together! xoxoxo
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Ah Hah! I DID it! I learned which browser lets me upload a picture from another thread onto THIS thread....! I amaze myself sometimes. But very seldom.
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I love this!
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I had a professor that was like that for my Ethics class I was taking online. The only opinion he wanted to hear was his and you had better agree with him or you were told that your opinion wasn't relevant. During one discussion in class I said it didn't matter what his opinion was as everyone has a right to speak their mind whether he liked it or not
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Mornin' Glories! Chevy good job posting pix, love that Buster's Ice Cream.
Sas, thanks so much for sharing your wealth of knowledge with us.
L&H&P's to all. ♥
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morning all.....I showered and pooped today......can I hear a yeahhhhh....to much info ?? Lol
Holeinone.....how did the zometa go?
Hope everyone is on the mend.
Cami...thinking about you while in shower.....how have you been smelling lately?
Have a great Sunday
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Good morning, Owlettes. I'll probably be up tonight because I'm taking steroids today. They've actually got me scheduled for my last chemo tomorrow pending approval of the MO who I'm scheduled to see at 8. They haven't got me down for blood work first though. I'm not sure I'm feeling any better. Since my only symptom is shortness of breath, and it's not bad as long as I stay still, and that's pretty much what I do, I'm not sure if there's a difference when I'm up and around. I'll try do do a bit more this afternoon and see if I feel any less SoB.
I'm no philosopher, but I'm pretty sure that nihilism is just so much BS. DH is watching all the Halloween crap on tv, I don't care much for it but I just try to not pay attention to it. I put my earbuds in and listen to music or play a game. My husband is just weird. But lovable.
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YEAH!! For Susan. Know what you mean, not looking forward to the next sx, docs should tell people that their boobs are attached to their AH! Who knew!??
Mags, my DH does that too, I'll look up and ask him wth are you watching?!
Hi owls, found some new pics!
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Chevy and Sas- I have had enough experiences where nothing could explain the circumstances being so perfectly timed. Or why life events seemed to "prepare you for the future" of which you have no knowledge yet. Or what you "need" suddenly pops out of the woodwork.
I sent a letter to my DH (we were just friends then) he was traveling through Scotland, Wales and England. I decided that this next town would probably be on his itinerary but really had no clue. I sent my letter to the post office. He picked it up. Couldn't believe I "knew" to send it there. Ha.. we can finish each others sentences, scary.
I went to graduate school at RIT in Rochester NY and it shares a campus with NTID the National Technical Institute of the Deaf. There are thousands of deaf kids on campus. I had never been around deaf folks before. Years later when we adopted our first kid, we knew she was special needs but we had no idea she was a rubella baby. She ended up being profoundly deaf, mildly retarded and autistic. She's from a small town in the Mekong delta of Vietnam. She had a PDA and they fixed that with a heart Cath at UCSF. She was a severe failure to thrive and just 11 pounds 15 ounces at 11 months. She had no head control, couldn't roll over or sit up. Later we found out she had mild CP on the right leg.
All that exposure to deaf college kids just made assume.. ya they are deaf but so what? They can do it, just takes longer. I had also spent zillions of hours volunteering at a special ed school for MR/Autistic and psychologically impaired kids doing art work and working with them one on one - all through highschool. Loved it. (ironiclly my husband's sister lives at this residential school; she has Downs) So how is it that my life experiences "prepared" me for my daughter?? They said she would never read, learn to be independent... She wore pull-ups until age 8 for medical reasons.. incontinent, bladder instability spasms. So fast forward... She is continent, reads, writes at a 3/4th grade level passed the state tests for 3rd grade in all areas except math. She rides a bike, hikes, swims, can have a conversation, makes eye contact (biggy), signs in ASL fluently, dresses herself, eats (was so tactile defensive we took speech for swallowing until age 3, she choked on every kind of food), eats everything now -- in short she is more normal and engaged then ANY ONE expected. Yay.. providence?
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Patty gladl you feel better.
Rose.....HUGS!!!!
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Sitting back and watching the Packers destroy the Panthers!
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Hugs to you blondie!
Be off the boards for a while - adventure! :-)
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Roseie....! YOU are an angel! I loved your story..... I've seen so many little kids like this.... and my heart always goes out to their parents.... Even in shopping centers, where they bring the ones in wheel-chairs, to have an "outing" and be around other people!
And old people.... I'm serious here.... not ME Cammi!.... But ever since I helped take care of my Grandma, and be in all the "homes" she was in, just gave me lessons on life... I developed a "tour" for all of them, and her Assisted Living center.... And I showed slides of Coors, and the Brewing process.... I had taped pretty instrumentals, and took my boom-box, for the presentation..... Then after, I gave them all beer... I had taken a few cases for them to drink, and lots of chips and pop-corn! So many times, these older people are taken to a place, and just forgotten..... I went to a few more nursing homes after that.... to show them our tour!
So we had a great time..... ! Later on the Company filmed my tour, and all of Coors, so it was on a DVD, and my voice was added.... That was called Coors on Tour....
So when we give of ourselves, it all comes back.... Hopefully it's GOOD! Ha!
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By the way... Mags, I'm with you! WhatEVER the heck nihilism is, it ain't good! I looked it up, and thought "you're KIDDING, right" I mean WTH is all that about.... Don't sound normal to me.... Ranks right up there with flying saucers, pot-heads, and everyone else who don't want to "fit in" with the Establishment/Government/Rules/, and whatever!
Okay..... I'll step quietly down from my soap-box, and go crochet now....
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- Now I might be out on a limb here, but THIS sounds like something me and Cammi would talk about, but don't, because it is just too stupid.
"Nehilism .... THE DENIAL OF THE EXISTENCE OF ANY BASIS FOR KNOWLEDGE OR TRUTH... THE GENERAL REJECTION OF CUSTOMARY BELIEFS IN MORALITY, RELIGION, ETC. THE BELIEF THAT THERE IS NO MEANING OR PURPOSE IN EXISTENCE."
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Now I'm not sayin' any names, but guess who this is for?
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Chevy, give me the initials...lol. I really don't know. Half the time if someone doesn't completely spell out their word I have no idea what they are saying......when people tell, jokes they pause to see if I got it...pretty sad...
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CHEVY!!!!
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Sleep well all -
awwwwwSusan! Is that your fur baby?
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