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  • HomeMom
    HomeMom Member Posts: 1,198
    edited October 2014

    Peggy- You've had enough on your plate as well. I think you've had just as challenging, if not more of a challenging time then me! I've been able to rest when I've needed to while you've been a great care giver for your DH. Kudos and love to YOU! 

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited October 2014

    HomeMom, thank you.  You can't begin to know how much I appreciate it!

  • ncollett
    ncollett Member Posts: 862
    edited October 2014

    I start my Radiation Wed. I have to have 6.5 weeks. Im sure it will go faster then I think. I am just ready to get started and be done. 

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited October 2014

    Nancy, it really will go by quickly.  It helps that the treatments take very little  time, too.  Good luck!

  • jhodro
    jhodro Member Posts: 240
    edited October 2014

    Yep, Nancy! Before you know it you'll be done.

    Peggy, really hope you get some rest in the next few weeks. Everyone is so strong on this board - like you said, you do what you have to do to get through. 

    Take care, ladies!!!

  • MarieNJ
    MarieNJ Member Posts: 231
    edited October 2014

    Good Morning Ladies - 

    I'm happy to have found this forum.  I started my 3rd week of radiation and doing quite well.  We chug along over the George Washington Bridge to NYC around lunchtime & traffic hasn't been too bad.  I only have 16 treatments.  My RO said there was a study of about 7,000 women from U.S., Canada & Europe and found that 16 treatments had the same benefit as 25 for women 60 and over in my situation.  Also, which is unique, I am lying on my stomach with my arm stretched out.  It's not the greatest position because at first it hurt my shoulder so badly that now about 5" below my shoulder is numb - ugh.  The good part is - my shoulder doesn't hurt when stretched out and it's probably due to the numbness! LOL  I was told to put Eucrin on after the radiation and put a cream on that the Dermatologist gave me at bedtime.  Also to make sure their is no residue of cream before radiation.  It is all working out fine.  Is anyone on this forum getting only 16 treatments and lying on their stomach?  Just curious.

    Marie

  • jhodro
    jhodro Member Posts: 240
    edited October 2014

    That's fantastic, Marie! It looks like we have very similar diagnosis, but I still had to do 33. It wasn't horrible, my skin reacted and I had quite a bit of fatigue as time went on, but honestly not as bad as I was expecting. Glad it's over. Sounds like you'll be done very soon too! Are you continuing the Taxol for one year? That's the last thing I've got to do - Taxol until April for me.

  • Jenwith4kids
    Jenwith4kids Member Posts: 635
    edited October 2014

    three more treatments...  Come 2:00-3:00 I'm  so very tired...  just when the kids get home, figures, right?

    I'm itchy, I've ditched my bra.  Not too much to complain about.  Doc says skin will continue to actively react for two weeks after the final treatment.  

    Looking forward to getting this behind me.

    hugs all around!

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited October 2014

    JenWith4Kids, I don't know how you're managing with kids.  I also wilt about 2 or 3.  I also am not bothering with a bra if I can.  I slather on the Aquaphor every night and that takes care of the itchiness, etc all day for me.  I'm a bit pink and my incisions are dark.  

    You're doing good.  It will soon be over!!!

    Jhodro, you bet I'm working on sleep.  For the first time in forever I got enough sleep last night.  I'm only going to the rehab center once a day normally to visit DH.  I'm going to try to catch up with all the stuff I haven't been up to doing while DH was in the hospital - like changing lightbulbs, ironing.  And resting.  Take care!

  • Blownaway
    Blownaway Member Posts: 760
    edited October 2014

    Had my first real rad today. They put goggles on me, sort of like for a virtual video game. I could see a graph that charted my breathing and I was told over a speaker to take a deep breath and hold it while I monitored myself keeping the breathing line even with a level line indicated on the graph. I heard the tech say "Hand me.....bolus" to another tech and I felt him put something on me in a couple of places but since I wasn't able to move, I didn't get a look at it. I googled bolus when I got back to work and I've seen references to it on this site but once again, no one at MD Anderson mentioned anything to me about it. If you've read any of my previous posts, you'll be aware that MD Anderson docs don't share much info with the patient. The patient has to learn everything on their own and know enough to know what questions to ask and you have to ask in a timely manner because I learned the hard way that I should have requested brachyherapy or internal radiation right after surgery. It is no longer an option for me at this point. Oh well, we live and learn-  some of us faster than others. I've encountered some very bright women on this site who have helped me tremendously on this journey and I hope I can pass something along to anyone traveling behind me.

  • MarieNJ
    MarieNJ Member Posts: 231
    edited October 2014

    Jhodro - 

    Did you mean finishing out the year on herceptin?  I did 12 weekly treatments of taxol/herceptin.  Taxol ended on Aug 25th, but I have to continue on herceptin for a total of 1 year.  I'll probably be done June 2015.

    Marie

  • Blownaway
    Blownaway Member Posts: 760
    edited October 2014

    Jhodro - yep, I started TCH in June after surgery, the doc dropped the TC part after 4 infusions but the H will contine on every 3 weeks and you and I we will finish around the same time.

  • mmtagirl
    mmtagirl Member Posts: 509
    edited October 2014

    Looking for advice from after reading the posts on fatigue..  Hoping some of my April chemo sisters can  give me some perspective on what to expect .  I will be starting in the next few weeks.  Still won't be able to confirm timing for another week or two... Probably blend in to winter rads. ... Thanks all!

  • mortmain
    mortmain Member Posts: 63
    edited October 2014

    I've been away from these boards for a while, just want to check in. Finished the last of six boosts to end my rads yesterday morning. I considered baking for my techs, but didn't after all. They did get my thanks for the good care they gave me, and the good humor and courtesy they showed.

    As each of my fellow sufferers 'graduated', I got them a card. I feel so fortunate to have gotten through so lightly, relatively speaking. 

    Jhodro, I was really fearing for my poor nipple, so sore already, when it came to the boosts, as they were centered on the excision point right around the areola, but oddly the soreness stopped when the boosts got underway. Maybe the boosts numbed it. 

    So, my experience of the rads: deep redness, some itching, sore nipple that eventually calmed, unpredictable periods of head-whacking fatigue. Frequent headaches, nothing I can't handle w/ aspirin or whatever's to hand. Still have fatigue and headaches, but I expect it. Worked through the treatments taking the occasional day off, sometimes needed to go home early.

    Occasionally I found that if I forced myself to walk around, I could get through my tiredness. Should of tried this more often, as my job can be stressful but sedentary.

    My very good wishes to everyone looking forward to getting out the other side!

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited October 2014

    Mortmain, Congrats on finishing up your rads!  I've been lucky in my SEs - only really bad fatigue and some redness easily eased with Aquaphor.  No headaches.  Now for you to breathe! 

  • Jenwith4kids
    Jenwith4kids Member Posts: 635
    edited October 2014

    mmta, in my experience with rads, my fatigue was never as bad as it was with chemo. When i did get tired i tried to take it easy and/or get out for some exercise. 

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited October 2014

    MMTA, It has been very difficult for me to separate the fatigue from rads from the exhaustion of the past couple of years caring for DH, and especially the past 3 weeks while he has been hospitalized.  But the radiation fatigue is not that difficult - just realize you will have it and plan on resting (if you can).  Soon it will be over!

    Jenwith4Kids, I recall how exhausted my daughter-in-law was with colon cancer chemo and I'm sure chemo fatigue is much worse than radiation fatigue. Glad you're doing well.

  • Puffin2014
    Puffin2014 Member Posts: 961
    edited October 2014

    Sailing: congrats on last day of rads today, do you get to ring the bell?

  • mortmain
    mortmain Member Posts: 63
    edited October 2014

    Peggy, you have such a tough road even apart from the bc treatments. I hope you find some relief when rads are done. To all of you others, this board and my research helped me so much. An idea of what to expect made the realities of treatment easier to handle.  

    Onward to my next treatment stage, Aromatase Inhibitors. Thank heavens for all you contributors, and may your roads be smooth, or if not smooth, interesting.

    Amy

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited October 2014

    Amy, I'll be joining you with AIs (Arimidex) next Friday.  Isn't it great that there is something we can do for years to prevent BC from returning?  The rads have been easy - even with the fatigue.  I realize that some have been very apprehensive about having radiation but that was never a problem for me.  Good luck with your AI!!!

  • Blownaway
    Blownaway Member Posts: 760
    edited October 2014


    PontiacPeggy - Do you start the AI after chemo and radiation is completed or during?  Also, how is it determined which anti-cancer drug to put you on?  I am 57, way past menopause, plus have had a complete hysterectomy and have osteopenia, so will I be taking Tamoxifen or Arimidex?

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited October 2014

    Blownaway, I did not have chemo.  I am starting Arimidex after my rads.  Although my RO said there is nothing to stop me from taking it during my rads.  Apparently no one has actually studied whether AIs and rads conflict or complement and he suspects they complement.  

    As for which drug to be on, I'm 69 and way way past menopause.  AIs are for us past menopause, though I gather sometimes tamoxifen is used for us, too.  As for which AI, my MO said any would do fine but chose Arimidex since it is the oldest of them and he seemed to feel it a good place to start.  I didn't have any preference either.  I too have a bit of osteopenia but my MO isn't concerned about it.  

    Are you having chemo, lumpy, rads or all 3 or Mx?  Whatever your MO recommends is the way I would go for when to start the AI.  Your experience may differ since you are triple positive and I believe that that can make a difference in your treatment but I don't know for sure.  

    BTW, my RO changed my treatment to include 6 boosts and 27 "regular" treatments.  I did have one boost, out of order, today.  Tomorrow I get my last regular treatment, then the remaining 5 boosts.  Sometimes things get confused :)

    Good luck!

  • Puffin2014
    Puffin2014 Member Posts: 961
    edited October 2014

    Blownaway: You start the AI after radiation, so easier to determine cause of any side effects.Tamoxifen is for premenopausal. I would expect you'll start with Arimidex. There are 2 other meds in the same family as Arimidex, but it seems like docs start with the Arimidex. If Arimidex causes side effects that you just can't tolerate, options are to take a month or two drug holiday first; sometimes the SE's aren't as bad when you restart. If that doesn't help then ask if you can try one of the other 2, don't have the names right now but I could look them up if you want me to. This is from one of the sessions at a retreat I attended last week.

  • SailingWind
    SailingWind Member Posts: 110
    edited October 2014

    Puff no bell but the team gave me a certificate  that they all signed and I took a picture of all of them.

    Now just a check up in four weeks. Start Letrozole Sunday. Waiting to find out out you. Didn't see anything from you on chat.

  • tucker3
    tucker3 Member Posts: 17
    edited October 2014

    Hi Marie! I am doing 16 treatments but lying on my back. I am 52 years old. My tumour was on the left so I have to do a breath holding technique. The first two treatments and for the sim, I had no trouble with holding my breath. Today, not so good. :( I'm not sure why today was different. Any advice from anyone about holding your breath? I love the idea that each day takes us closer to finishing and moving forward. 

  • ncollett
    ncollett Member Posts: 862
    edited October 2014

    Had my first radiation tx today. I was surprised that after all the xrays and reconfirming everything it only took 5-10 min. Is that normal? Also I am real sore under my L arm kinda by my SNB and my left side. I was thinking maybe because my arm was over my head for so long. Just wondering...

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited October 2014

    Nancy, that's about what it takes for me - 10 minutes max.  I'm not surprised that your armpit hurts.  That incision seems to be the most bothersome for all of us.  You might want to rub a blob of Aquaphor into that area every night and see if that loosens it up a bit.  And make sure you are stretching.  Besides, having your arms above your head is uncomfortable.  I have to remember to relax my shoulders and that helps immensely.  Otherwise I feel like I'm dislocated for a few seconds.  Soon you'll unconsciously pick up the rhythm of each session and know about when it will end.  Good luck!!!

  • Psalm34-4
    Psalm34-4 Member Posts: 66
    edited October 2014


    I go for my rads sim tomorrow, a bit nervous. I have actually had a week that was uneventful, not playing role of lab rat and could actually forget about all this! Now back to reality I guess. Thanks to all with the great advice for skin care, and deo list Puff was great... got all your tips saved on my phone. I am about 6 weeks postop  now from my last lumpectomy, and have noticed a lot of change past week or so.. I guess "she" has finally shrunk up, have a bit of a skin fold / crease from surgery site (lateral aspect of right breast just below SNB incision). Also have noticed a firmer area that is puckered, I guess scar tissue forming. Just curious how much change you ladies noticed with rads to shape /etc of breast, not the superficial skin irritation, but breast size. I am wanting to get a bra with partial "foob" and wondered how much more changing she would undergo before it would be safe to go for bra fitting. I am wanting to get it on this year's deductible, which has been well met! Best wishes to all~~

  • ncollett
    ncollett Member Posts: 862
    edited October 2014

    Will do Peggy thanks. I am pretty sore tonight. Hopefully will be better tomorrow

  • PontiacPeggy
    PontiacPeggy Member Posts: 6,778
    edited October 2014

    Nancy, it will get better. Promise :)  You'll get more comfortable with your rad position and figure out how to best ease any discomfort..  I'm very pleased with Aquaphor and I'm not a lotion or cream person at all.  Keep some handy.

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