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  • PoppyK
    PoppyK Member Posts: 1,805
    edited October 2014

    LARock, so sorry about your mouth! I scratched up the roof of my mouth on toast! The strangest things cause problems on this chemo train. For heartburn, I've been taking my hubby's prescription acid blockers. OTC meds just weren't cutting it.

    Thanks for all of the support with the teen son problems. I'm not a big crier... but I cry for my kids... and only 3 or 4 times about this entire breast cancer issue. We contacted his school counselor about his grades (Ds and Fs), and yesterday she called him into her office to talk to him. She told us that he broke down and cried; told her he is distracted and concerned about my BC. Sadly, I'm not sure if this is entirely true... or just an additional excuse.... basically only part of the problem. The school district cut the school psychologists a few years ago during the budget crisis. Today this son and DH are attending the school districts' "Pathways to Higher Education" conference. I hope this inspires him. As my dear Daddy said "You couldn't pay me enough money to go back and relive those teenage years".

    Kris, I just saw that you added something I wrote to your signature. I am honored... and I say that to myself every single day!

  • KayaRose
    KayaRose Member Posts: 183
    edited October 2014

    Kris103,  Not much of a storm yesterday but it did bring in a cold front.  The western burbs actually had snow flurries today.  We lived in Chicago until we moved out to Northbrook when we retired seven years ago.  We went from a 4 br home to a 2 br townhouse - and I absolutely love it.  We're on a golf course and once inside our home never see even one car.  After being city rats our whole lives, this is heaven to us.

    South sider, huh?  Guess that makes you a Sox fan.  We were north siders and always went to Cubs games.  Great thing about Chicago is that north and south always came together during football season - Bears season.  Now if they could only beat those Packers - just once in a while would do.  Sad.

  • badhairday
    badhairday Member Posts: 178
    edited October 2014

    Rough night of sleep for me too, thanks to my overzealous TE fills yesterday. Ouch! So hope this is worth it!

    Today is a sad day for me. My wedding anniversary. While I was getting dressed this morning, I was thinking back to getting ready on my wedding day, and how I believed that I had truly found my soulmate, and that although neither one of us was perfect, we were perfect for each other. I meant every word of every vow I made that day. Been a lot of years: lots of joy, lots of tears. Never imagined I would spend my anniversary morning doing the kid handoff in a Starbuck's parking lot and facing this BC experience on my own. I know I have to let myself mourn the loss and move on, but it is all so raw and new, just like this cancer diagnosis. Two months ago today, I had no idea that I was about to lose my health, my breasts, my husband/best friend, my home, and half of my time with my son. Aug. 5, my diagnosis came in and it has seemed like the hits have kept coming. Yesterday was such a good day for me, and tomorrow will be too. Guess I'm just giving myself permission for today to be awful and sad and rotten. Somehow need to pull myself together tonight to attend a benefit that is being put on by a member of my BC support group. She gifted me the ticket, and although I really want to curl up for a good old crying session, I think maybe God figured I should get dressed up and out of the house tonight and try to have a little fun. So I'm painting on my face and forcing myself to put one foot in front of the other! Thanks for listening to me whine, and for being so encouraging to me as I navigate this crazy path!

  • LARock
    LARock Member Posts: 229
    edited October 2014

    Badhairday, my heart aches for you however you seem to handling the situation with amazing wisdom. If it were me, I'd be talking about hunting him down with a shotgun (only meant as a joke of course).  I think tonight's benefit is just what the doctor ordered! It will be a good time to make new friends and feel their support. Enjoy.

  • PoppyK
    PoppyK Member Posts: 1,805
    edited October 2014

    Badhairday, My boobs hurt in sympathy for yours. Are you taking motrin, Tylenol... anything to help with the pain?

    Two months.... and so many HUGE changes for you. Raw and new is right! I wish there was something I could do to help you. I know you have your support group and your church. Lean on others now. Give yourself time to grieve today! Allow yourself to cry for an amount of time (an hour or two maybe)... then get in the shower and put on your makeup and dressy clothes and enjoy the night with your friend. It can be hard to get out there.... but do it my friend!

    BTW, if you think antidepressants would help you during all this upheaval, talk to your doctor. They have made a huge difference for me (and I'm not someone who even take Tylenol before this BC crap).

    Kris and Kaya, My DH is from Steamwood, Ill! Small world! He still has family in Elgin, Schaumburg, Skokie and Mt. Prospect.

  • Zimastar
    Zimastar Member Posts: 25
    edited October 2014

    I can officially make it snow hair in my shower & sink. DH was speechless for a moment. I Dont want to see this male pattern baldness, any suggestions as I already have a buzz??  And BTW, I'm already all of this. 4 more rounds.... Ummm I may have to rethink this! Ugh being sick!!! 

  • Zimastar
    Zimastar Member Posts: 25
    edited October 2014

    also forgot.... Anyone else experiencing neuropothy?? 

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Member Posts: 2,026
    edited October 2014

    Hi again.  I've been feeling pretty good the last few days.  Next A/C is Monday and I am not looking forward to feeling sick again next week. Been have been having a bit of a pity party tonight.  Yuk.  Love, Jean 

  • LARock
    LARock Member Posts: 229
    edited October 2014

    Well, for a day that started out fairly badly, it ended up being a great day. 

    After another rough night I went to the drug store and loaded up on Prilosec OTC, Miralax, and several Biotine products - mouthwash, gel and spray.  The Biotine is really helpful for anyone suffering from that terrible taste and dry mouth. 

    I decided today was a good day to simplify and DH, who is a hair stylist, buzzed most of my hair off. I wear it short for the most part anyway but it feels good not to have to mess with it.

    DD and I played tennis this afternoon. It was hotter than blazes (100+ degrees) and I had to sit and rest frequently but it felt great to be out there. 

    Even better, DH made veggie burgers tonight and I think it was the best tasting thing I've had all week. I was able to eat the entire thing. Hopefully the Prilosec will ward away any heartburn tonight!

    It's been fairly quiet on here today. I hope that means everyone is also having a good day!

  • Kris103
    Kris103 Member Posts: 57
    edited October 2014

    Poppy - Your phrase just resonated with me so much. I say it every day now, too. BTW, I've still got family in Elgin, it's a lovely area. ;)

    KayaRose - You'd think I'd be a Sox fan, but no. Mom & Dad were both northsiders originally, and my maternal grandfather was an amazing Cubs fan who taught the grandkids right. Never did find out why we moved south when I was 9 month old. Never was able to get into the Rockies out here. I still miss Ernie. :D

    badhairday - Dealing with divorce is hell within itself, much less under these circumstances. It is all so not fair! I'm happy that your faith and friends are there for you, and we are, too.

    Zima - If you've already got a buzz, that's about all you can do. Wear a sleep cap at night to contain the shedding, and run a lint roller over your head every so often to help, too. I had a bit of neuropathy after my spring CT rounds, but it has resolved since. I iced my fingers and toes around the Taxotere infusion, and took extra B6 and B12. Some people also think l-glutamine powder is helpful. Definitely talk to your MO about it, as it can be a significant SE.

    Jean - It really sucks to feel as sick as we do so much of the time. Always up and down on the roller coaster, not feeling in much control of the process. You're one step closer to done, and you will make it through! (((Gentle Hugs)))

    Well, it looks like my anti-nausea patch is still working, although I occasionally need a little bit of Compazine for breakthrough. Now that the IV Dex from infusion Thursday is pretty much worn off, the fatigue is hitting. I have no idea how I still have hair, but guess I shouldn't argue. Seems weird to say, but so far, best chemo round yet. For which I am profoundly grateful.

  • badhairday
    badhairday Member Posts: 178
    edited October 2014

    LARock, I considered the shotgun "solution", but my friends reminded me I don't look good in orange or stripes!

    PoppyK, my doc just upped my Lexapro and Lorazepam. I am convinced that's the only reason I haven't fallen completely apart!

    Zimastar, sorry about the hair and the neuropathy. No advice, but I feel for you on both counts!

    Zjrosenthal, a friend who is going through chemo for a blood cancer told me not to waste a minute of the good days dreading the bad ones, or you miss out on enjoying them. Easier said than done, but advice I've been trying to follow myself.

    Kris103, Hope your nausea goes away and stays away! And I also love that saying from Poppy. Somebody should stitch that on a pillow!

    The fundraiser benefit tonight was really nice. it was a sellout crowd of 200, and they raised a lot of money. There were tons of fabulous prizes, which I did not win, but I hung out with some of my support group ladies and a few of the husbands, and we had a great meal, and a nice time catching up. Our volunteer bartenders were from the Cleveland Gladiators football team, and a lot of us felt like dirty old women for admiring the eye candy! LOL!

    Each breast cancer survivor was given a gold medal when we walked in, and at one point, we danced around the room in a conga line, with everybody applauding and high-fiving us. It was this amazing, diverse, and zany group of ladies. I laughed harder than I have in ages. It was so good for my soul, and it is so wonderful that some of these women are so many years past their diagnosis and treatment, and yet they keep showing up to help us newbies get through it all. So inspiring, and something I hope I am able to do someday.

    On the way home, I picked up the keys to my apartment! Tomorrow is moving day! Woohoo! I wonder if I will be this excited at this time tomorrow night?

    In other news, my boobs are still killing me, and I will never, ever, ever agree to another 100cc fill again. OWWWW!

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Member Posts: 2,026
    edited October 2014

    Kinda wacked myself (gently) upside the bald head and am mostly over my pity party.  Asked Jesus to change my stinky attitude and he did!  So much to be grateful for, including the drugs that are saving our lives..  Thanks for the hug Kris,  needed that. Love, Jean 

  • KayaRose
    KayaRose Member Posts: 183
    edited October 2014

    zjrosenthal,  I'm in the same boat with you.  I feel almost like my old self and yet dreading chemo #2 on Wednesday.  I'm not dwelling on it but it's always in the back of my mind.  I have a really fun day planned today.  My DH and I are in a 9 hole golf outing followed by a football watching luncheon.  DH is really looking forward to it.  I'm not much of a golfer and it's kind of cold out there this morning but he's done so much for me the last few weeks, I can't say no.  And, I'm working on having a positive attitude.  Definitely looking forward to the luncheon and spending time with friends.

    Good luck tomorrow and have an extra great day today.

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Member Posts: 2,026
    edited October 2014

    Thanks for the encouragement.  I am looking forward to watching my grandsons baseball game today.  Enjoy your outing.  Grateful for the sunshine.  Love, Jean 

  • Rose0766
    Rose0766 Member Posts: 92
    edited October 2014

    raining, what a crappy weather day today, on a positive note, I lost 4 pounds this week, before this cancer diagnosis my DH and I were trying to eat healthy and lose weight, he was actually in line for Bariatric surgery, but one of his medical conditions got worse and sidelined that, then I got diagnosed, so we continue on our quest for weight loss and healthy eating, dry mouth has been an issue this week and constipation, but I got the right drugs, and it helped, hoping to get out this week and do some leaf peeping, if the weather cooperates, for those of you facing chemo this week, hydrate, hydrate, hydrate, and may you have few side effects! I'm on the backside, knowing this is when my WBC is lowest, I'll try to stay away from germs, lol! Some days I feel like a hermit! But if it keeps me healthy, so be it! Keep the faith!

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Member Posts: 2,026
    edited October 2014

    Nice to hear from you Rose.  Yes the dull weather is a downer.  We had it yesterday but today is sunny and clear.  Sending some up north to you.  Glad to hear the 4 lb loss.  I am trying to just keep my weight stable.  Been eating veggies to "keep things moving ".  Love, Jean 

  • SueBe
    SueBe Member Posts: 131
    edited October 2014

    Can anyone describe what round 3 was like for them? Was is better, worse or the same? I have meetings and a presentation to give exactly one week after my infusion and I am scared of the fatigue and other SE being worse.

  • melannmor44
    melannmor44 Member Posts: 14
    edited October 2014

    SueBe, I am going for treatment #2 tomorrow.  I am also wondering if they gets worse the more that you have.  I'm not getting the Nuelasta shot this time because I had so much pain.  Other SE were minimum.  Sore throat, no thrush, slight diarrhea and fatigue.

  • barremom64
    barremom64 Member Posts: 191
    edited October 2014

    Melannmor44- I'm approaching #3 this Thursday. You don't have your treatment posted...but if it's C/Tax I would say after #2 was actually better for me. I was prepared for SE after #2. For instance I had thrush the first time and was able to start medication for that before it started this time.  Since you're not having the Nuelasta shot you're able to cut that one off your list and that SE will for sure be easier then this time.  I did not find SE got worse and no NEW SE developed. I would say I was slightly more tired, but that could be life in general right? 

    Best of luck tomorrow!

  • Zimastar
    Zimastar Member Posts: 25
    edited October 2014

    Suebe- for me, it sucked however, I was able to take charge of symptoms before they started as I knew what to expect. I was down fully for 2 days. I have found oddly that the claritn makes me feel very loopy so I chose not to take it these last 2 days. Its been a struggle but I need to be able to function. Prayers for only minor symptoms ladies..I would love to say none but unfortunately I know it won't happen.   :-(

  • Kris103
    Kris103 Member Posts: 57
    edited October 2014

    SueBe - Round 3 of CT for me was a combination. I had gotten better at anticipating and countering side effects, but at the same time the fatigue was deeper and I'd get a little short of breath when I was active. It was about the 1-week point when I started to feel more like myself again. It sounds like you might be in for a long day with meetings and a presentation to do. I've got no particular sage advice, outside of rest whenever you can. I'll keep you in my thoughts.

  • SueBe
    SueBe Member Posts: 131
    edited October 2014

    Thanks everyone for your input. I am in my last week of #2 and feeling the fatigue now instead of feeling better. Hopefully that will change before #3 this Friday. 

  • Miscraw
    Miscraw Member Posts: 45
    edited October 2014

    Hello ladies! I really don't post much, but linger a lot. I think posting really forces me to admit that this is really going on. I keep thinking I'll wakeup & this was all a bad dream. I am also a mommy of kids ages 3, 5, and 7.   Had only 1 infusion & it went fine. I am a huge needle phob, so I had a port placed before and am soooo glad I did. I was quick & painless. Had very little SE, which is good.

    My main problem is the sadness. I just can't get past it. I am scared to death about hair loss. I didn't cold cap & am wishing I did. I only started a week ago, so no loss yet but the thought consumes me. I seriously cry every time I think about it. Call me shallow, but it is a real concern. I work in an elementary school & have 3 small kids of my own. I am more worried about all the reactions from them than anyone. I just hate everything about this situation & still can't wrap my brain around it.

  • barremom64
    barremom64 Member Posts: 191
    edited October 2014

    Miscraw- I'm sorry your going through this- very brave of you to reach out and post.  Loosing your hair is a big deal!  People who cold cap aren't "shallow" and you aren't shallow for having strong feelings about loosing your hair.   Ladies who choose to cold cap do so for the reasons you want to...because we want to mantain privacy, we have small children we'd like to protect and BC has already turned our lives upside down and when infusions are over we'd like to look and go back (if thats possible) to our pre-BC lives as quickly as possible.  

    Maybe it's not to late to start cold capping- I'm not sure but reach out Penguin cold cap and see! What have you got to lose? 

    I'm pretty sure cold cappers have great results with Taxol. Check out the cold cap thread on this board they are a great group who are so helpful!!! 

    All the best-

  • melannmor44
    melannmor44 Member Posts: 14
    edited October 2014

    barremom-yeah I asked my doc about it, he said the fatigue would be worse.  I am gonna start taking levaquin in 5 days for 10 days.  He said that could cause joint pain, yay, not!  Only two more to go.  Ready to be finished.  

  • PoppyK
    PoppyK Member Posts: 1,805
    edited October 2014

    Miscraw,

    Have you thought about getting a wig? There are some great ones out there, and you could most likely find one that would be a good match for your own hair. The American Cancer Society will give you a free one, too. 1-800-227-2345 I got a wig so I could just look like myself if I wanted to; no one would stop me in the stores.... no one would ask my kids what was wrong with me.

    Since you are having such strong feelings of profound sadness, you might consider taking an anti-depressant. I encourage you to contact you MO ASAP about this. I am on Zoloft and it has made a world of difference for me- an my family, too!

    Hugs!

    Poppy

  • Nomatterwhat
    Nomatterwhat Member Posts: 587
    edited October 2014


    Miscraw,  The hair loss and the general sadness of what was to come was my biggest problem.  I cried every time I thought about losing my hair, but guess what?  It fell out anyway and I got two wigs.  Nobody notices, unless I tell them I am wearing a wig.  It looks almost like my real hair and I can take it off when I get home, along with the girls, and get comfortable.  As my DH has told me time and again, my hair will grow back (his will not)!!!!  He loves me for who I am, not what I look like.  This too shall pass!!!!!

  • sybilskelton
    sybilskelton Member Posts: 77
    edited October 2014

    Miscraw, by all means look into getting a wig. It could make a world of difference if you can look in the mirror and see someone you recognize looking back at you. I'm sure your family will love and support you no matter what, but I can understand your apprehension for your young children. They often can't verbalize what they're feeling at that age, and to have Mommy look "normal" might indeed be comforting to them.

    I, on the other hand, have grown children, and I'm going for all the sympathy I can get. No wigs for me. I look forward to the day I get stopped by a cop and can pull off the head scarf, look at the cop and say "Is there a problem, Ofiicer?" I may start speeding more often.

  • Tobycc
    Tobycc Member Posts: 789
    edited October 2014

    anyone .......hair stats after first infusion?  I picked my wig with DH two weeks ago and have primed staff I am going for a makeover :)

    Starting to shed I think...day 10. Want to make follow up appointment for S Saturday but the unrealistic part says why?  I may still have hair?!!!!!! 

    Day 14 really the magic number?

    Sybil....LOVE it. First twin comes home from college Friday for a week....still have to tell him about chemo

    Second one the following Thursday. Looking forward to a spotless bathroom and going milk it!!!  Haha. Seriously DH has been great, but will appreciate the boys help

  • KayaRose
    KayaRose Member Posts: 183
    edited October 2014

    miscraw, my grandkids are exactly the same ages as your children.  I haven't lost my hair yet but expect it to start falling out this week after my 2nd chemo treatment.  My daughter and I have talked to the kids about my cancer in broad terms but have made it clear I will be seeing the doctor for a long time and my hair will fall out.  No big deal to them about the hair but more concerned about if I was going to be hurt.  Sweet.  When I saw the 3 year old yesterday, he said to me, "hey, you still have hair."   Funny little guy.  Point is, kids are going to be ok.  Just make it clear to them that you will get better.  Sometimes you'll feel better than other times but when your medicine is done, you will be ok.  That's what they want to hear.

    I'm sad, too.  The thought of losing my hair drives me crazy, too.  I have a wig on order and I'm afraid it won't get here before my hair falls out.  I'm actually starting to freak about it.  Chemo #2 is Wednesday and hair loss is sure to follow.   Seriously, I'm freaking.  I think your sadness and fear is normal.  Mine, too.  We just have to find ways to deal with it.  Even if it's just one day at a time.  Don't be so hard on yourself.  If you are depressed rather than just sad, talk to your doctor about meds,  just don't hide your feelings.  This discussion board is a great place to vent.  We all promise to listen.

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