Why Much of Medical Literature is Wrong

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I thought this was an excellent article from Medscape about the problems with most medical research.  

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/829866?src=wnl...

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  • farmerlucy
    farmerlucy Member Posts: 3,985
    edited September 2014

    hi doxie - I think the link is asking for a password. You might check it. The article sounds interesting though.

  • voraciousreader
    voraciousreader Member Posts: 7,496
    edited September 2014

    I agree!  Excellent article. Read it this morning...unsettling start to the day.  Really have to wonder who these folks are that are doing peer review....could researchers be that inept?

    By the way...this is not a new controversy.  It has been circling the medical community for decades.  What surprises me is how it continues and is so pervasive.

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited September 2014

    Yes, this is valuable information for the public. It is very important for the general public to learn critical thinking. (Not that I do critical thinking well.)



    However, I think the title misrepresents a big section of the problem.
    'Why Much of the Medical Literature Is Wrong' I do not think that 'much
    of the medical literature is wrong'.



    Yes, I think that specific authors, papers, and methods can be flawed. I
    am NOT NOT NOT trying to excuse bad science. I think that eventually,
    over time, science gets things right, or at least better. It may take
    centuries to get things right. Eventually it is self correcting.



    But, did you realize the current state of independent biomedical grants? In this paper (Mar 2014)



    "Today, the resources

    available to the NIH are estimated to be at

    least 25% less in constant dollars than they

    were in 2003.)



    "Now that the percentage of NIH grant

    applications that can be funded has fallen

    from around 30% into the low teens, bio-

    medical scientists are spending far too much

    of their time writing and revising grant applications and far too little thinking about

    science and conducting experiments.



    "the average age

    at which PhD recipients assume their first

    tenure-track job is 37 y, and they are ap-

    proaching 42 y when they are awarded their

    first NIH grant.



    " As competition for jobs and promo-

    tions increases, the inflated value given to

    publishing in a small number of so-called

    “high impact”journals has put pressure on

    authors to rush into print, cut corners, ex-

    aggerate their findings, and overstate the

    significance of their work. Such publication

    practices, abetted by the hypercompetitive

    grant system and job market, are changing

    the atmosphere in many laboratories in dis-

    turbing ways. The recent worrisome reports

    of substantial numbers of research pub-

    lications whose results cannot be replicated

    are likely symptoms of today’s highly pres-

    sured environment for research (4–6). If

    through sloppiness, error, or exaggeration,

    the scientific community loses the public’s

    trust in the integrity of its work, it cannot

    expect to maintain public support for science



    http://www.pnas.org/content/111/16/5773.full.pdf+html



    When you are an academic biomedical scientist, and you don't get a
    grant, essentially, you don't get a paycheck, unless you can get funded under someone else's funding.   If <20% of biomedical grants are funded,
    that means that about 80% of the scientists who apply for an NIH grant
    do not get a grant. This means, at least for the vast majority of them,
    they get to find another career.   Article reviewers say they get to decide whose career they get to end.



    How would you like to face this kind of competition every year to few years for this kind of job security?  Is this the way to attract the best and brightest?



    I am NOT NOT NOT excusing bad science.



    Critical thinking, such as outlined in the medscape paper, are essential
    to learning more. I am NOT trying to excuse the mistakes that papers
    make. I had no idea about the current biomedical research situation
    until I started listening to podcasts such as This Week in Virology,
    which also mentioned this PNAS paper.



    This year, I tried to donate a chunk of my yearly charitable contribution to basic biomedical research.

  • Heidihill
    Heidihill Member Posts: 5,476
    edited September 2014

    http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/829866

    It's "still the best we've got."

    Flaws come with the territory, as in the parable of the blind men and the elephant.

  • geewhiz
    geewhiz Member Posts: 1,439
    edited September 2014

    My son is in biomedical engineering...he tells me that the brightest ones get sick of the crap and move into development, which is where the industry is heading...like the watch that monitors your bio-activity, or shirts that tell you your heartrate and will eventually be worn to diagnose and communicate info realtime to your doctor.

    And one  of my dearest friends oversees clinical trial development for a Big Pharma - A former Harvard professor of Biostatistics. They moved their operation overseas for lots of the same reasons. Anytime I freak out over a current trial result online, he researches the study then shows me why the study is probably flawed, and most seem to be. If you look really hard into who designed the trial, often they have interests involved somehow. Thought usually not disclosed properly. Just because something is a published result doesn't mean a whole lot to me anymore. Keeping my grains of salt handy.

  • tgtg
    tgtg Member Posts: 266
    edited September 2014

    Of course, another reason for flawed results can be seen when one reads the fine print and finds out just who funded the research.  Since the government now supplies a pittance for medical and scientific research, researchers must turn to other sources of money.  And if they get it from a for-profit company (like a drug company), there's a lot of pressure on them to give the company the results it wants.  Bias, therefore, can arise in the way they report results--see "Bias in reporting of end points of efficacy and toxicity in randomized, clinical trials for women with breast cancer" in Annals of Oncology, Jan. 9, 2013, for a real eye opener about just how test and trial results are "spun" in order to satisfy the hand that feeds the researcher and his/her department.

  • vlnrph
    vlnrph Member Posts: 1,632
    edited September 2014

    From the article by Kwame Boadi (which kayb was kind enough to post a link to): I would subtitle "Even Science Writers Can Be Wrong"!  

     ...And 21 years elapsed between the key enabling discovery for the ovarian cancer drug Nolvadex and its introduction to the market.... [emphasis added - indication was always for BC]

    He's referring to tamoxifen and the fact that it was initially synthesized in an effort to produce an anti-estrogen birth control pill in England. It was through the personal conviction of Craig Jordan who came to the University of Wisconsin and was able to prove efficacy as a receptor blocker that this miracle medication was made available. There's your history lesson of the week.

    The rest of the analysis is pretty good. I know a person who just got hired to help oversee the distribution of research dollars. Otherwise, there can be multiple teams trying to do the same thing,

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