Starting chemo September 2014

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  • sybilskelton
    sybilskelton Member Posts: 77
    edited September 2014

    Rosebud, I can't speak for everyone else, but the neulasta shot is part of my protocol. Even with the shot my WBC dropped after the first infusion, but it seems to be doing ok now.

  • Rosebud1445
    Rosebud1445 Member Posts: 16
    edited September 2014

    Good afternoon ladies

    Had my first chemo yesterday with no SE. Trying to stay ahead of everything and am taking anti-nausea and steroids again this evening.  I've felt very good so far. Walked yesterday evening with DH and have been busy around the house all day.  Hoping this holds out but I'm ready to face reality if it doesn't.   Some of you are talking about getting your shots already. Have your blood counts dropped that quickly?

    Welcome to the new folks...glad you found us but wish you didn't need us. Knowledge is power!

  • SueBe
    SueBe Member Posts: 131
    edited September 2014

    This is day 8 and I crashed real hard. Wow, slept for three hours. Feeling better but was not expecting this kind of thing.

  • LARock
    LARock Member Posts: 229
    edited September 2014

    Day 2 has been good. Tried to go for my usual 5 mile run today but had to quit after 2 as I thought my head was going to explode. We went to the Farmers Market and ran some other errands but I had to cut it short as I started feeling worn down. Came home and spent a couple of hours watching a movie with my daughter and dog. DH administered my Neulastra shot without either of us passing out, thank goodness.

    My biggest worry now is trying to predict how I'll be feeling the next several days. We are planning a day trip up to Santa Barbara tomorrow but I'm not sure if that might be too much for this first weekend. Next week I have a rather stressful workweek on the calendar and from reading everyone's posts, it sounds like days 4-8 are rather iffy. I'm wondering if I should revisit my schedule. It is not unusual for me to have 11-13 hour days at the office. It's hard adjusting to my new reality. Anyone out there have any work advice?

  • fire-n-ice
    fire-n-ice Member Posts: 24
    edited September 2014

    Hi (((Amy))),

    We NEED you as much as you need us, ok? You and I are similar as to the stage, etc., and the chemo cocktails. My 1st tx was Tuesday and no problem w/ infusion as I have a port too. My daughter was w/ me and the min. the red devil started dripping she grabbed my hand and by the time it was over my fingers were numb, but that was okay, she was happy. Had no problem @ all, was even able to check the boards that night, and actually had the audacity to brag! Won't do that again...LOL b/c then along came Wed. and Neulasta shot. It has been kicking my azzzz since Thurs. morning. I slept about like you have Amy and the fatigue is doing a number. I did the Claritin also, but MO says try Aleve next time, so will; throat is still sore. No appetite, no nausea,  but tried oatmeal, nothing tastes right, but am trying to stay hydrated. Getting ready to walk some to see if bones wake up. So sweety, just know you're w/ friends and family!

     

    Gentle (((Hugs)))

    Logan

     

     

  • SiStar-TX
    SiStar-TX Member Posts: 56
    edited September 2014

    Had my second infusion on Friday.  No SEs yet with the exception of a little heart/stomach burn.  MO tweeked my cocktail because of immune system.  

    Neulasta today, I prepped with claritan and alleve on friday I hope this helps. So far so good.  I only felt the burning sensation a little because nurse injected slow.  She said that she went through a month earlier.

    No wine during chemo, no problem!

    Considering cutting back on my days at work because it feels like I am spinning my wheels.  My brain doesn't seem to want to keep up!  

    I hope everyone is having a relaxing weekend!

    Much love!

  • Tobycc
    Tobycc Member Posts: 789
    edited September 2014

    Rosebud, like others the shot is part of my protocol. Next WBC check is next Friday.

    I did claritan and aleve...  No pain, bit tired. MO said he thought my down day would be tomorrow.

    LA...sent you a message about work

    Blessings to all

  • SiStar-TX
    SiStar-TX Member Posts: 56
    edited September 2014

    My white count dropped and the MO tried levaquin but I had an allergic reaction and the tried another med which helped.  Today was neulasta.  Whatever it takes right!

    have you started eating everything in the house yet?  I have gained weight and they told me not to try to lose weight. I am desperately trying to curb my appetite just to maintain the weight I have gained.

  • Tobycc
    Tobycc Member Posts: 789
    edited September 2014

    Logan. Banana?  Plain rice ? 

  • SiStar-TX
    SiStar-TX Member Posts: 56
    edited September 2014

    LARock-  I am also working but I have found that my brain doesn't necessarily "fire off" when I need it to do so.  Sometimes I am at my desk spinning my wheels.  I crashed on day-6 and had to through in the towel and go home early.  Fatigue is a big issue.  I also have an assistant now so that the my down times are transparent.  If you are able to do that it will alleviate some of the stress.

    I have learned that it is okay to rest when necessary and to control whatever I can and let the rest go.

    Hope this helps

  • Kris103
    Kris103 Member Posts: 57
    edited September 2014

    Hi, Ladies -

    It's been several days, so I'm catching up. The side effects really haven't been that hideous, although it took a bit to get my nausea under control. My MO's PA agrees that something other than just chemo nausea is going on, since the Emend in my pre-meds didn't do much when it should have been effective for 3 days. I was diagnosed with Meniere's disease (a cousin to vertigo, so it causes dizziness and nausea) a few years back, and although haven't been symptomatic, chemo may be tickling at it.

    I've been prescribed Ativan, which more knocks me out than helps the nausea. But that's ok, 4 hours of sleep at a time is good. Next time we're apparently going to try some sort of ear patch that I'll wear for a week and see if that helps my stomach.

    LARock - You had asked about work advice. In a sense, I'm not a good guide, as I am a work-from-home entrepreneur who can pick it up or put it down whenever I wish. You're right that there are certain days that you'll come to predict will not be good, and that long days at the office are simply not in your best interests right now. A hard adjustment, but necessary. Hopefully you'll come through with flying colors, but don't be shocked if you have days where you simply cheer for being able to walk around the house for 10 minutes. And chemo brain is a thing.

    SiStar - I forgot, are you on Taxotere/Cytoxan? I gained about 20 pounds on that last spring, because all I could stomach was easily digestible starchy stuff. The good news was that a lot of it was water weight and came off very easily once treatment was done. Not to say you shouldn't watch what you eat, but try not to get too worried about it.

  • SiStar-TX
    SiStar-TX Member Posts: 56
    edited September 2014

    fire-n-ice and Amy,  I had my first neulasta shot today, I prepped with alleve and claritan.  I hate pain but my MO says if its gonna come it will be Sunday.  I will just try to sleep it off if it does. or take a warm epsom slat bath.

    I stay in the forum and read what has worked for those that have traveled the rode.

    Stay strong!

  • ilovepugs
    ilovepugs Member Posts: 78
    edited September 2014

    Hi Everyone, 

    I need to rant. I'll start by saying I don't begrudge anyone their lack of side effects, but I'm feeling like I'm a wimp in comparison to so many of you who are managing so well. I know we're all different, but it doesn't seem fair...ooh, did I just write that? 

    I was told by quite a few women that they managed chemo pretty easily with very minimal side effects and they continued to work throughout their treatment. Is this like a childbirth thing where after the fact they've forgotten how bad the pain was? 

    Since my first treatment on Monday, I've had nausea; fatigue; thick annoying mucous that I constantly have to spit out; heartburn; issues with smells being too strong; and loss of appetite...and subsequently I've lost 8lbs. Each day I've felt marginally better; however, now I'm experiencing sore throat. So what gives? I was so optimistic when I started. Everyone told me, "you'll be fine, because you're strong and positive". What a crock of sh*t.

    I have to offset my rant with some positivity. On the upside, last night my husband made homemade chicken noodle soup and the broth was just perfect for me.  I couldn't have much, but it was pretty wonderful. AND I had mashed potatoes today and they were great! Also, except for yesterday when it was rainy and miserable all day long, I have managed to get out each day to walk the dog. 

    Thanks for letting me get this off my chest. 

  • LARock
    LARock Member Posts: 229
    edited September 2014

    ilovepugs, don't apologize for ranting. That's what we're here for! Unfortunately, I have no sage advice to offer having just started down this road myself but be sure to make note of all your SEs to cover with your MO. My MO was very clear about making sure I let him know what discomfort I'm feeling so they can adjust for it. Thank goodness they are so much smarter about chemo than they were years ago.

    Thanks SiStar-TX, Kris103, and Tobycc for the work advice. I am working from home Monday and will play the rest of the week by ear. I told DH and DD that we need to postpone the Santa Barbara trip to next weekend. 

    Biggest disappointment of the day was that wine tastes bad. OMG, now this is a SE I can't have!!

    I wish everyone a restful evening.

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Member Posts: 2,026
    edited September 2014

    Pugs, you are certainly not a wimp.  We are all valiant cancer warriors.  Sides hit us differently and at different times.  I slept almost round the clock on Friday.   Today I was able to do some stuff but at a certain point I hit a wall and have to stop.  Do whatever it takes to get thru this treatment.  It is saving our lives and please tell your doc whatever you are experiencing.   Their job is to minimize sides and get us through treatment.  Love, Jean

  • PoppyK
    PoppyK Member Posts: 1,805
    edited September 2014

    Hi Pugs,

    I hear you! I'm so happy for the others, but I'm having a difficult time, too. You're not a wimp. Some of us just have more SE to deal with. When I've felt well enough to post, I have posted about what I'm struggling with. Plus, you are on AC, which I understand can be a more aggressive treatment, with more intense SE than the TC that I'm on.

    My MO added an additional anti-nausea med, and increased the frequency of the original one. Huge difference, but not perfect.

    Take something for the heartburn-Prilosec, Pepsid, Zantac.... it should help. If over the counter meds don't help, call your MO and get prescription meds. Eat small amounts, several times a day.

    For sore throat/dry mouth, I am using Biotene moisturizing mouth rinse and toothpaste. And drinking a lot of water, whether I feel like it or not. Make sure you aren't getting a throat infection, too.

    If you are tired, just sleep. Listen to your body.

    Can't help you with the smells... I'm miserable there, too.

    Chemo is one of the hardest things we will ever have to do! Please give yourself a break!

    I don't have to get through this gracefully, I just have to get through it!

    Hugs to all my September Sisters!

  • Zimastar
    Zimastar Member Posts: 25
    edited September 2014

    Hey ladies! 

    I'm writing from my cell phone again so I won't be able to address you directly but hopefully I'll manage to give my input lol

    I am on medical leave/STD. Chemo brain is FOR REAL and I feel unsafe to my patients so I've elected to not work. Also, I'm a lot like most of you...this is kicking my AZZZZ days 2-8! And I'm lucky to get a shower in. I actually pay someone to clean my house & cook my kids dinner on the set days... And some days i had to ask for the food to not be cooked here. The smells are unreal!  

    The worst for me is cigarette smoke. (As a former smoke I find it kinda comical. ) 

    Hair is still falling out so it took me like 2 mins to pluck my eye brows tonight. 

    My goal for next week is hydration. I'm going tomorrow for some Popsicles, may be that'll help as last time everything was yuck!! I've lost 18lbs since last chemo, not at my starting weight but I'll take it. Shame in 2 days water retention is going to take over again. Blah! 

    I'm going to try the 1 thing a day goal. And the shot is part of my tx however, if my white count is higher than 10 again, I'm going to pass & hope for the best. 

    Tonight I had a lady stop & yell...fight like a girl girl power & then drive off....weirdo! Weds a little girl called me a baby doll...so sweet lol

    Have a great night ladies!!/

  • barremom64
    barremom64 Member Posts: 191
    edited September 2014

    PUGS- I had same symptoms sore throat, taste gone, mucous etc. turns out I had Thrush.  A common side effect of chemo. No amount of brushing or OTC wash can help. I needed a script. After one pill it was considerably better. Please report to your MO as you may have thrush. 

    Once you get that 'fixed' you may feel a whole lot better:)  

  • ilovepugs
    ilovepugs Member Posts: 78
    edited September 2014

    Thank you Barremom, Zimastar, PoppyK, Jean, and LARock. Thanks for responding and identifying with me. Thanks for your understanding and insight. Thanks for the suggestions and advice. You've each made me feel less like a whiner and more like fighter that's taken a beating. I really can't thank you all enough. 

  • AmyG516
    AmyG516 Member Posts: 40
    edited September 2014

    good morning everyone!  Sorry for my absence but my second round crash hit earlier and harder than the first round.  I felt great the day after my infusion, went for my neulasta shot and then to the office   I got more done that day than I had since I started this mess!  Friday was a physical inventory day for my warehouse- one of those all hands on deck crazy days. I am very used to easily managing the process, but by lunch time the bone pain and exhaustion were starting. I had a hard time but made it through.  I was in bed by 7pm.  Ugh!  Yesterday the bone pain was horrible, my hips, back, knees, even my ankles hurt with every move.  Had a long nap and was in bed early again  I feel the worst for my son - I wish he didn't have to see me like this!  This morning the pain is more of a dull ache I can deal with.  I took Claritin with my last shot and had hoped by taking them 12 hours apart this time, I would have even better results.  No such luck!  Hoping to have a better day today to recover before I go back to work tomorrow.  I am struggling with not being able to juggle and manage everything I used to.  The mind and the body just won't let me. Just another part of this process that sucks!!  

    I hope everyone wakes up with minimal SE this morning!  One foot in front of the other and we can do this together ladies!! 

  • barremom64
    barremom64 Member Posts: 191
    edited September 2014

    Amy-Sorry you got hit harder this time. Are you taking the Claritin WITH and Aleve (2x daily)?  I start this regime day of shot and continue for one week (MO suggested). This time around I had no bone pain at all while following thta protocol. Last time I had what you described above, It knocked me off my feet.  Just a suggestion. Hope you feel better  ((hugs))

  • IndieGirl
    IndieGirl Member Posts: 3
    edited September 2014

    Yeah!  Here I am!  :)  Started chemo 2 days ago... not sure what I am feeling! 

  • Tobycc
    Tobycc Member Posts: 789
    edited September 2014

    welcome Indie!  I started Friday too

    Sorry ladies for not using all names this morning.  Pugs, POPPY, we are all with you.  I so admire you both....even though struggling you still manage to reach out to others. 

    Day 3. Woke up like a train hit me. Got down my claritan, aleve, Prilosec, all my heart Meds ( I had quadruple bypass at age 50 ) 3 years ago, half a banana and then the weepy damn willies. On my pity pot 

    DH said you ok honey ?  I said " my mom always said if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all in a trembling voice.  Then felt like an idiot.  

    THAT was brilliant....  Made no sense. 

    I already feel better ranting to you all brave brave sisters.  

    Goal today.... Drink all my water, try and get down fruit..spinach protein drink...

    Go to Publix if I can to get out 

    Sorry I don't have any wise words of wisdom. In my fuzzy head I wouldn't want you to take it!

    Looking forward to pulling out of the tears, back to counting my blessings, including not feeling alone due to you brave ones

    Off to do my devotions and tune out DH who is trying so hard.....but his chatter, singing is making it worse!!!!  Hee hee. 

    Love you all

    Kath

  • sybilskelton
    sybilskelton Member Posts: 77
    edited September 2014

    Pugs and all the others struggling, please do not beat yourselves up. This is hard, the hardest thing I've ever done, and I've had cancer before. There have been some very dark moments when I despaired of ever feeling well again. I called my daughter one evening in tears, and I think I scared her because both she and her brother showed up the next day to take care of me.

    I know now that just give it time and you will have the good days again. Food will taste good, you will have some energy, and the fog in your brain will clear. I was absolutely euphoric the week following my first infusion because I felt so normal again. I knew what was coming, but I tried to enjoy feeling good while it lasted.

    The only way through it is through it. There is a light at the end of the tunnel.

  • Tobycc
    Tobycc Member Posts: 789
    edited September 2014
  • LARock
    LARock Member Posts: 229
    edited September 2014

    Tobycc, so sorry you're having a bad day. Just know that you're strong enough to get through this and that all of us are here to support you 100%! 

    IndieGirl, welcome to the team. 

    Pugs, I hope you're feeling better today.

    On a positive note, I was able to get in a 3 mile run this morning. It's a beautiful day here in SoCal! I'm doing fine with the Neulastra so far. Haven't had the need to take any Claratin or Ibpropen. I think the steroids must be keeping me on a high and fear a crash coming tomorrow. I'll see how the rest of the day goes.

  • IndieGirl
    IndieGirl Member Posts: 3
    edited September 2014

    OK..... So what's up with all these damn tears and emotions .... I can't sort them out!  I wasn't prepared for this crying stuff!  Not sure why I keep tearing up?!  I don't think I am really that scared?!  Crap!  

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Member Posts: 2,026
    edited September 2014

    Anyone her had A/C followed by Taxol?  If so were the sides from weekly Taxol as bad as the A/C?  I am half done with A/C and trying to gear up for the 12 weeks of Taxol.  Love, Jean 

  • DaniellaD
    DaniellaD Member Posts: 273
    edited September 2014

    Indiegirl - I started  weekly chemo 9/3.  I cry at least once every day or every other day.  Crying doesn't mean you're weak , it means you're sad.  It's perfectly reasonable to be sad because this sh*t happening to us is sad.  It's ok to be scared because  chemo is scary.  Don't beat yourself up about it. Cry, scream, yell - feel however you need to feel and make no apologies.  As cliche as it sounds, take it day by day (sometimes hour by hour) and know tomorrow is another day.

  • Kris103
    Kris103 Member Posts: 57
    edited September 2014

    PoppyK - you are so sigged! Thanks for your inspiration!

    I've been going through this weird thing of comparing the SEs from the T/C I did in the spring to the A I'm doing now. A little more of this, a little less of that. A deep dive versus a shallower, broad slog. I hate that I hadn't been out much for a week until this morning, but I got out with the dogs and my daughter, and I'm even thinking of the grocery store. I dread the leaves falling off the trees as much as I crave cooler temps.

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