Starting chemo September 2014

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  • HockeyCat
    HockeyCat Member Posts: 222
    edited September 2014

    Daniella, hydration is good! I know it's hard to drink lots of water. So I'm adding gatorade, herb tea or some juice in the mix. Today the water filter at my work was broken I couldn't get refilled!!! :( I had a glass of water then gatorade to catch up since I get home. Need to drink more for tomorrow.

    ilovepug, welcome to the group!

    Tobycc, I'm doing well! After Day 11, I felt pretty normal, other than the fatigue… Since Day 18, my hair is shedding a lot though I'm doing cold caps. :(

    Amy, I know how you feel… hope SEs are more manageable this time. We can beat this!

    Fire-n-ice, I love your quote! Always laugh and fight like a Girl! :)

    Hugs to all. Hope everyone had a good start of the week. 

  • fire-n-ice
    fire-n-ice Member Posts: 24
    edited September 2014

    ilovepug, so sorry for the reason you are joining our FAMILY, BUT a FAMILY we are, so no matter how dysfunctional we may act  sometimes   Loopy we stick together! Welcome to the best gang of warriors any where. Zima, so far so good, but you and I both know it ain't gonna last, but that's ok as long as you guys are here. HockeyCat, "Bombshel,"  came out w/ a song titled something similar to that a couple yrs. ago and I loved it so thank you very much. YOU are elected top fighter after your escapade at the rink LOL Daniella, I have listened to these girls and have drunk more water today than in 2 years, gotta get this crap [red devil] out of my system, GL to you. Hey GFs I've been good can I drink something else...LOL

    Gentle hugs and butterfly kisses to you all!

    Logan

  • ilovepugs
    ilovepugs Member Posts: 78
    edited September 2014

    Thanks for the welcoming Fire-n-ice and HockeyCat

    Tobycc, I just realized that my treatment wasn't listed as 'public', but now it is. I'm doing A & C (4 x 3 weeks cycles) followed by T (12 x 1 week cycles). 

    Everyone seems so positive in this group and I don't want to bring anyone down with my 4 in the morning blues. Instead I will try to get inspiration from all of you women who are keeping up the optimism. Thank you for being here! 

  • HockeyCat
    HockeyCat Member Posts: 222
    edited September 2014

    ilovepugs, I'm up since 4am too. Today is my 2nd infusion day. I took decadron (steroid) last night , which caused insomnia. I took Ativan to sleep but it works for only 4 hours or so, I usually wake up around 3 - 4am. Good to hear you found this group helpful. Everyone on the board is very supportive. I'm reading the forums everyday to get information and inspiration. I also joined the support group, meeting once a week. I have a great group of friends to support me too, but they cannot provide emotional support I need, like BC sisters here and in the support group who understand me and the whole situation. 

  • barremom64
    barremom64 Member Posts: 191
    edited September 2014

    Good luck today HockeyCat!   May your SE be few!   Happy capping as well! 

  • HockeyCat
    HockeyCat Member Posts: 222
    edited September 2014

    Thank you barremom64! I'm a bit nervous, but hoping the infusion go smoothly just like last time. SE didn't start until Day3 after my first infusion. But I heard every time is different. I'm also hoping that hair shedding subsides after capping. I lost so much hair in the last 3 days!

  • barremom64
    barremom64 Member Posts: 191
    edited September 2014

    I feel you pain sister on the CC shedding!  Just finished my second of four infusions last Thursday (same chemo cocktail as you). SE were exactly the same for me, a couple I even cut off at the the pass before they came, like thrush. SO think postively! Been walking/trotting (cant exactly call it running at this point!) every day since infusion 3-5miles.  I hope you have a smooth day! 

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Member Posts: 2,026
    edited September 2014

    Had 2nd round of A/C on Monday.  So far, so good.  Worst se was heartburn..  Otherwise just tired.  I wanted to go to the gym today but opted to rest and just do some Tai chi later.  Hope you are all doing ok.  Wishing everyone a blessed day.  Love,  Jean

  • Rose0766
    Rose0766 Member Posts: 92
    edited September 2014

    sitting at the MO waiting to have cbc done, hoping cbc and platelets are ok, first lab after the neulasta, keeping my fingers crossed!! Don't want anything slowing this down! Have a great day fellow warriors- I've adopted the title Cancer Slayer, game of thrones spinoff!

  • fire-n-ice
    fire-n-ice Member Posts: 24
    edited September 2014

    Fire     09/23

  • Kris103
    Kris103 Member Posts: 57
    edited September 2014

    Hi, Ladies - 

    Just checking in. I'm about 6 days post chemo #1, and the nausea is still coming and going. I've tried a few combinations of the meds I have, but nothing is sure-fire, so I suppose I'll have to put a call in to the MO. Makes me tired and dizzy, so I don't like to be on the computer long. I'm just trying to remember that at this stage of my TC rounds in the spring, I had a lot of bone pain and was hospitalized with neutropenic fever, so I'm way ahead of that game.

    Gentle hugs, all!

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Member Posts: 2,026
    edited September 2014

    Changed my diagnosis.  I found I actually have 3 nodes out of 3 involved.   I don't think this changes anything beyond a bit more aggressive radiation.  Do what you have to do, save my life is my mantra!  

    Rose I pray your counts are good to go for the next chemo.  

    Kris, praying for the nausea to end.  

    Love,  Jean

  • PoppyK
    PoppyK Member Posts: 1,805
    edited September 2014

    Well first round of TC was yesterday. The soreness, redness and white spots around my port site are believed to be a reaction to the Dermabond used to close the site. This meant they couldn't use my port.

    Labs were great... starting an iv... not so great. Poking and prodding went on for a while... I actually had tears running down my face. Very un-warrior like. Second nurse finally got an iv started in my wrist. Lots of nerves in this area and hard to keep it still. When the T infusion started, the pain was unbelievable. They stopped it and tried to start another iv. No luck. Adjusted the original iv, and the dilution of the T and continued on. Alternating heat and ice packs on my entire arm. Finally made it through.... a little over 6 hours start to finish.

    So far side effects are manageable, I know it's still early. Heartburn is pretty bad (taking OTC meds for that), dry mouth, red flush on chest and neck. My arm is feeling a bit less sore today.

    My DH surprised me at the infusion center with a giant heart-shaped chocolate chip cookie he made and decorated it himself. It said "Beautiful Warrior, I love you!". I am very surprised and touched. He also gave me a lovely pink sapphire pendant and told me thank you for going through all of this for me and our children. Usually I'm not the soft, mushy kind of girl...but I must say, I've got a keeper. At the birth of each of our children, my DH gave me a piece of jewelry; usually including the birthstone of our new infant. He told me this fight is longer and harder and he is so thankful that I'm fighting so hard.

    Thanks for listening to me.

  • Rose0766
    Rose0766 Member Posts: 92
    edited September 2014

    so my wbc took a tank, in spite of neulasta, platelets a little low as well, so avoid crowds, and don't fall or cut myself, temp was ok, so now I'll be checking that more often, 

    Jean, sorry about the extra lymph node, hopefully that means they did their job and caught all the cells trying to spread, 

    Kris103, hope your nausea gets better, I bought some candied ginger, tried it but also used my compazine when I was nauseous last week, so I don't know which helped 

    Nurse said MO will recheck cbc at next chemo on Tuesday and we shall see if I get to have my scheduled dise

  • SueBe
    SueBe Member Posts: 131
    edited September 2014

    PoppyK,

    You have a great support system and a real "keeper". I hope the SEs subside soon. My 2nd time with the same cocktail you have was better. 

    Sending positive energy to you and all the other warriors. This too will pass and we will be stronger, more graceful and loving to ourselves for what we accomplished. 

  • sybilskelton
    sybilskelton Member Posts: 77
    edited September 2014

    Oh, Poppy, so sorry your treatment went so badly. I hope you have better luck next time.

    I'm not typically the mushy type either, but if I'd had a husband like yours I'd probably still be married. He is most definitely a keeper.

  • Tobycc
    Tobycc Member Posts: 789
    edited September 2014

    poppy, I am so so sad that happened. Is Pepcid or Zantac helping?  Next time we all go and protect you!  Hubby is just great. Mine just keeps making banana bread :)

    Hockey.....love your posts..= HOPE for us in your footsteps

    Zimo, glad lasix is working a bit anyway. What is causing it?  Normal side effect?

    Fire n ice, love your attitude. I say we all toast together when we can!  

    Ilovpugs...we are in this together, through good and bad. What is your cocktail?

    ZJ...good news!!!!!  Pepcid or other OTC working?  Can you eat anything that helps?

    Rose, man you are a role model

    kris, glad you got some rest , and so glad you called MO

    Hugs and prayers to all of you incredible women....

  • reader123
    reader123 Member Posts: 242
    edited September 2014

    I'm starting chemo tomorrow 9/25/14.  This is my second go-around.  Last time it was 12 weeks of Taxol.  This time it is 4 treatments of AC every 2 weeks. Last infusion should be 11/9/14.  I want to check in on this thread now and again - but I also post on the Stage IV board.  Not looking forward to this again, but I do know that it is doable and can be gotten through! :)

  • SiStar-TX
    SiStar-TX Member Posts: 56
    edited September 2014

    Hockeycat--Well done on the jogging!  I am making myself do some type of exercise daily because of the steroids and my increase in appetite!  I haven't been able to run in years but I do manage to walk a few miles.  I wish that I could go to the gym but since I haven't had the neulasta my immune system to low to be social.

  • HockeyCat
    HockeyCat Member Posts: 222
    edited September 2014

    Poppy, sorry to hear that your first treatment didn't go well. Your husband is so sweet, definitely a keeper. :) for your heartburn, have you tried Prilosec (Omeprazole)? My onc prescribed Omeprazole and I am taking daily. I haven't had any heartburn. For dry mouth, I'm using biotene mouth wash and spray which work well. Of course drinking a lot of water helps too. When I feel like drowning in water, I eat some watermelon. This helps too.

    I'm still on the chair, one more hour to finish up cold caps. It took longer today because the nurse couldn't get my blood. She picked a wrong spot, on top of my wrist, hit my bone 3 times in the process. Oh that was painful. She struggled to drow my blood, tried twice in vain. Finally she asked for help and brought more experienced nurse who got it right. She was nice and very apologetic, but I'll ask for someone else next time! No major side effect yet, only dry mouth. 

    Amy, Daniella, how did your treatment go today? Hope it went well.

    Sending positive thoughts and hugs to BC sisters. 

  • SiStar-TX
    SiStar-TX Member Posts: 56
    edited September 2014

    Zimastar- I went wig shopping a few days after I got my hair cut.  I still haven't worn it;  I only wear different types of hats. 

    ----I have my second round of chemo on friday and first infusion on neulasta on saturday.  I will take the claritan and alleve starting tomorrow.  I sure hope it helps with pain management on saturday.

  • SiStar-TX
    SiStar-TX Member Posts: 56
    edited September 2014

    fire-n-ice--I have been wondering that very thing.  Does anyone know if alcohol and chemo mix?  I would love to have an occasional glass of wine.

    ilovepug.--  Welcome to the family!  WE GOT THIS!!! 

  • PoppyK
    PoppyK Member Posts: 1,805
    edited September 2014

    No alcohol during chemo according to my MO. She doesn't want anything to make the liver work any harder, since the chemo is putting in under stress.

    I'm taking Prilosec, which really helped. I was surprised by this side effect since it's not something that usually happens to me.

    I have Biotene toothpaste and rinse which is helping with the dry mouth.

    I know I'm well hydrated cause I have to pee every hour.

    My arm is still sore from all of the pokes, prodding and chemo yesterday.

    Hi Reader, thanks for your encouragement! Sorry that you have to go down this road again. Glad to have your support and insight.

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Member Posts: 2,026
    edited September 2014

    My chemo doc prescribed Reglan and it seems to work for the heartburn.   I was drinking some ginger ale and I think that made it worse.  I also need to sit up after eating and move around a bit.  

    Rose I pray your counts improve so you can get the chemo as scheduled. 

    Poppy and others who are having problems with IV placement, be well hydrated, try warming hands (ask for a heat pack) , pumping fist, hanging arm down and if the nurse starts poking around, insist she take it out and get another nurse.  You can do it kindly ("please don't take it personally but I am just not comfortable."), for example.  Ladies these are our bodies and we are fighting for our lives.  We need to learn to take charge.  Praying for courage for all of us.  Love, Jean

  • Becca9800
    Becca9800 Member Posts: 79
    edited September 2014

    Greetings Sisters, First post on your forum, happy I stumbled on the site. I'm looking for information on treatment regimens. I'm very recently diagnosed and have been reading volumes about breast cancer. Met with my medical oncologist today. Chemo is recommended but he wants to go the way of TC, no A. I've read so much about TAC that it seems to be almost the standard of care. I've noticed several of you are receiving my recommended drug regimen and I wonder why Adriamycin wasn't included in your treatment plan (hope I'm not being too pushy). I'm still in the ignorant phase regarding treatments and would appreciate picking your brains to help me make my decisions. Also, Doc says having my lone old ovary removed (trust me, I'm not using it for anything) so I can take the aromatase inhibitor is too drastic. I don't know about that, the significant decrease in recurrence being reported seems worth it to me. And finally, this doc just didn't click with me, should I keep looking for one to click with or is that not too important? Appreciate your responses, thank you!

  • Rosebud1445
    Rosebud1445 Member Posts: 16
    edited September 2014

    Good evening friends..I sit here this evening trying to get prepared for Friday.

    I still have so many questions that can only be answered with time.  I want to know if I will experience side effects...what extent...how long.  Each of you sharing in a way is preparing me. Thank you. 

    Tobycc...I am also wondering about the water. We have chemo education that morning but I'm thinking I would be better served by doing it a few days before!   Take care y'all♡

  • Tobycc
    Tobycc Member Posts: 789
    edited September 2014

    Rose ,same here. Keep learning something new starting more water tomorrow and maybe a Pepcid for good measure!

    Mine is at 8:15 am EST...doc first. Will bring crackers ice watermelon I guess what sounds good that morning! And blanket, book, etc

  • fire-n-ice
    fire-n-ice Member Posts: 24
    edited September 2014

    Poppy, I was so hoping yours' went like mine, I am so sorry. 28 hrs. post here still no SE. Went back this afternoon and got the Neulasta shot and that too was a breeze.  I said no SE, do have a little indigestion sporadically and didn't sleep over an hr. at a time. Thanked GOD for giving me just that. Have a feeling that I'm going to crash and burn in the next couple hours, if so will remember all of your hints, have a list; in a prior e I mentioned I was like Santa....making a list, etc.ThumbsUp So sorry your port couldn't  be used. After the torture you endured I may have just walked out. No, this journey we're on can't be avoided, but look at the pain we all have on the road to beating this beast! BUT BEAT IT WE WILL.

    We absolutely need to toast ourselves from all corners of the globe when we each ring that survivor's bell! LOL Poppy, when I asked for something other than water to drink I meant tea, Pepsi, ginger ale, etc. ANYTHING but water as I was totally drowning, even my kidneys were trying to find a way out.

    Hockeycat, I am so sorry, that was a really rude awakening, the bone geesh as much as we have to endure. She wouldn't come anywhere near me again!

    ilovepugs, you are family! As far as the 4AM blues, most nights you'll find me here as I have always been a night owl. Never apologize and vent all you wish, we understand!

    Reader, so sorry you have to come back, but welcome to this group; they are a wonderful group of warriors. Will be thinking of you tomorrow and sending prayers too! Good luck!

    Kris, So sorry the nausea won't give up!

    Rose,  I hope your counts take a skyward tour, praying they will. Take care.

    Jean, You and I are on the same protocol. How's it working for you?

    Zima, SueB, Toby, Barre, Sista, Sybil, You are such beautiful women, I am so glad to finally made a right turn...lol Kris.

    My brain is finally yelling for sleep, so take care, and sending

    Gentle {{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}} and butterfly kisses to each of you, sleep well

    Logan

  • Amoc1973
    Amoc1973 Member Posts: 158
    edited September 2014

    Hi everyone. Just wanted to say you can do it!!!! I'm done with chemo & herceptin right about a year and feeling great. I never thought I would again but I do & you guys will to. You are all so strong!

  • PoppyK
    PoppyK Member Posts: 1,805
    edited September 2014

    Logan, No harm. I was just responding to SiStar's comment about wondering if alcohol and chemo mix. I just didn't want anyone's system to suffer added stress.

    Kris, I hope your MO and you have come up with a solution for your nausea. It's a horrible SE! My MO started me off on some stronger anti-nausea meds for chemo because I had so many problems with nausea after my surgery. The world is such a better place when you can breathe and look around without the urge to throw up. I truly hope you have some relief.

    My MO prescribed Ativan to help with the sleep, nausea too. It allowed me to sleep for about 4 hours at a stretch.... good thing because I had hydrated so well that I had to get up 3 times to pee last night.

    For chemo day, I brought water, lemonade, iced tea, juice. I wanted a variety in case something didn't appeal to me. I also had humus, fruit, pumpkin bread, lemon sorbet. I didn't eat a lot of it, but am glad I brought options.

    The center where I am treated will bring you sandwiches, chips, juice or you can have a friend bring you something. They also had a collection of books, magazines and movies. I went exploring around while waiting for my labs and to see the MO. I don't sit still well.

    Magazines were easier to browse through than books. I was quite distracted and towards the end not concentrating well due to the meds. I watched part of a movie and asked my nurse a lot of questions. I kicked off my shoes and put on some soothing socks.

    I was told to eat something before you arrive for chemo. They want something in your stomach, but they don't want you to be stuffed. It will help you avoid nausea. I would drink water in the morning to help with hydration, but not go to extreme.... I didn't want to keep getting up to go pee due to having the bothersome iv.

    For the heartburn, I was also advised to eat 6 smaller meals, and not lay down for 30 minutes after eating. I think next time I will take some reflux meds before the infusion.

    Today was a good day as far as SE go. I hope tomorrow is good, too.

    Thinking about and praying for you all!

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