2014 Running Thread
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Luv - my experienced marathoner and Iron Man co-workers have told me horror stories about bad training runs they've had - from what they say there's always at least one horrible training run that makes you question the whole idea. But apparently that's part of training too - get through that and you'll know that no race could ever be that bad! I still remember the bad run I had training for my half last year - it was cold and sleeting off and on. The temps were in the 20's with wind chills in the teens, and the course I'd picked to run was a lot more hilly than I'd thought it would be. I basically sobbed the last two miles - and sobbing is not a good thing to do in sub-freezing temps!!
About walkers/slow runners putting themselves in faster corrals - the same thing happened to me in my half. It was a target race for a charity, with lots of walkers. I'm very slow, yet I passed lots and lots of walkers, and yep - they tended to walk 3-4 abreast. It was irritating to me, and I can't imagine how much more irritating it would be to faster runners who were trying for a PR. I monitored social media for a few days after that to see if I could figure out what was going on, and based on comments I saw, I think I figured it out. It seems that walkers were afraid that they could not maintain the15:00 minute per mile maximum pace. Because they didn't want to have to ride in the straggler van, they simply moved themselves into faster corrals. The waves went off every 5 minutes, so by skipping ahead 4-5 pace groups, they bought themselves 20-25 minutes of extra time to finish the race. I think they really had no concept of how much this would inconvenience other runners. Organizers need to do a better job of publicizing race etiquette, especially with charity runs where there are a lot of walkers. I do a lot of little 5Ks, and if it's a charity 5K, there are always a lot of issues with walkers putting themselves at the front of the start line, then walking 3-4 abreast. I think they simply just don't know any better.
Running clinic track workout tonight - they have a 4 mile workout set - first and last mile are warm up and cool down, but the two miles in the middle will be intervals - half mile speed running, quarter mile cool down, and repeat. Thank goodness it's cooler today than it was last week - cloudy with temps in the 70's as opposed to last week's 90's! I hate intervals and cannot force myself to do them on any consistent basis, so that's one of the big reasons I registered for the clinic. I have no heat tolerance since chemo and AIs, so I'm grateful for the cooler weather.
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NatsFan, this may sound weird, but I'm super jealous of your running clinic and especially the intervals! I was a sprinter from age 8-18 and really miss it. There's no track where I live either. I would really love to have a group to run with, and people to do intervals with, and the lectures and really all of it. Sounds dreamy. My whole running life would be different. I have such trouble with motivation and the worst is that nearly all of my runs are solo. In another four years when our kids are both out of high school, we may move to Concord and there will be tracks and running groups there. But I don't like to wish time away, of course. Also I know it would be very hard to sprint in that super muggy MD weather. My college boyfriend was from Ellicott City and I spent some time there in the summer. Very challenging.
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Run - you're absolutely right how lucky I am to have the running clinic available to me. I of course gripe about doing it at the time, but I know it's exactly what I need to do. Course they darn near killed me Tuesday night!!!! But I did it, and I think the increased running is already helping - I had to do three miles this morning. The heat and humidity are back with a vengeance, which means I had to do my run in the pre-dawn hours to avoid the heat. Instead of struggling like I usually would, my splits were actually faster each mile as I went along - not something that normally happens to me, especially at the crack of dawn!
Are there any sort of virtual or on-line roadrunner groups you could join, with a scheduled structured program? Even if you're doing things solo, if you have to report back to the group about whether you stuck to the schedule or not, that'd be an incentive to get it done.
Ellicott City is quaint, isn't it?
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NatsFan - I too am jealous of your running clinic but happy that you've found such a group! I live in a rural area and there is nothing like this … I'm coming off a knee injury and would like the input of such a group … so glad you're able to take advantage of it … and look out … you're going to be knocking out new personal bests! Happy for you!
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Race Report: I ran a 6k last Sunday and I finished it! I had jammed my toe into a concrete step in my utility room while I was running through my house two weeks prior … and was so worried I wouldn't be able to finish the race. The night before I got a foot massage which I think was the life saver for me. The tendons and muscles in that foot were so tight … and it felt so much better after the massage.
But still … all I wanted to do was finish the race. It was a 6k … and when I ran it two years ago … I started out too fast and I knew it was important this year to pace myself … so I started off more slowly … it was cool outside … and it was simply beautiful … and I not only finished but I beat my time from two years ago by 40 seconds! Couldn't believe it! I was SO HAPPY! I have chronic knee issues … and I only run now about 3 races a year … this was 'only' a 6k … but wow … so, so happy! I ran/walked it and it really helped my knee … not only did I knock off time from two years ago but I was a lot less sore as well. I've been working with a personal trainer on hip strength and I think it really helped!
So, so happy!
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Estel........I can feel your joy.
TY for the encouraging report and congrats on beating your time.
YEA!
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Way to go Estel! It sounds as though you triumphed over that jammed toe and knee issues and rural isolation.
NatsFan, I never actually saw the quaint part of Ellicott City! He lived in a bland suburban development and that's all I saw. Good question about online runners groups, not counting this one. I did join a group on Facebook last fall & winter and it motivated me to BUY a lot of cold-weather running gear, because many people in the group were running all through that polar vortex, but not to USE it. And I had to quit, because I was spending a great deal of time every day keeping up with them, although I was really sad to leave.
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Wow Estel, that is great! Keep up the good work! It must be a big relief to put the questions in place and not only put those doubts aside but also beat the time!
RunFree16 I am the same way with online running groups. I know the Team in Training and Runners World magazine have some virtual groups for the runDisney events, but I don't think I'd be accountable to them. I don't think I would benefit as much from a group as from a coach that likes the analytics/data as much as I do. Just reading the Garmin analytics has helped me on my own, but I'm not a physiologist and that is what I think would help me. Coming here for ideas as well as encouragement is also a big help. I'll piggyback on NatsFan's training
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Way to go Estel! So so happy for you. And no, there's no such thing as "only" a 6K. Way to go!
Run, hope you can find some people to run or work out with. I agree - it's hard to stay motivated when all of your runs are solo.
Gold its funny you say that and what makes each of us tick. Give me a training program to stick on my fridge, and I will try to keep up with it. I go off the rails when I try to figure it out on my own.
Hope everyone is doing well and had great runs and walks today. Lousy run this am - second lousy long in a row - but am putting them both my metaphorical running toolbelt and hoping I don't need to pull them out during the half. Feeling a little burnt out mentally I think....This too shall pass, this too shall pass.
Happy weekend all -
What a difference a week makes! After last Sunday's horrible run, today is in the 50's, clear and dry and I felt awesome. Had only planned to do 11 miles, but nearing the end I decided to go for the 16. I needed it for my head more than anything else. I won't say it was easy - it never is - and I allowed myself a couple of walk breaks - nothing wrong with that either. But I finished the run feeling good and even had a tiny little kick at the end. Now I'm starting to tighten up, though, so I have to be sure to do some easy walking and stretching throughout the day.
Thanks for last week's words of encouragement. Hope you all have good, strong runs this week.
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Hi ladies, I did my once a year run today, NOCC (National Orvarian Cancer Coalition) Pittsburgh 5K. Had my personal best time: 29:23, better than what I did 9 years ago, Pre-BC. Great to read your runs here.
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Welcome Morningsun1 -- that personal best should be tempting to do it more often! That's a great time that I'd be glad to take! (I did a 5k around the block yesterday in 32 and change.)
Luvlulu and lovestorun, good work with the long runs! You're stronger beating a lousy run than an easy one!
I've been noticing some pulling in the outside of my hips sort of below the sit bones. I think now that I have lost 20 lb the last couple of months (since Garmin Connect started communicating with My Fitness Pal to balance calories in with calories out), I have different mechanics, like my knees can get closer together and maybe that is causing more stretching down the outside. The theory just came to me when I went to buy smaller jeans. I am very careful to try to run on level ground not one foot high and the other low, because I learned the hard way from IT band injury, but this is new.
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Goldlining- try a chiropractor. I always get cracked (they prefer the term adjusted) before races which helps with hip joint/low back/ it band pain. and then if needed ill use the kt tape as well. right now i have a tender spot from tossing around a 1 1/2 yr old for hrs yesterday..biofreeze to the rescue
but sure.. losing weight (congrats !) can change the mechanics of how things work together and thigns will be sore until the parts are use to the new form
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Morning - I'm doing the NOCC run in Annapolis this weekend! It's the first 5K I ever did. I started running in summer of 2011, and a co-worker with Stage IV ovarian cancer started a team for the event. In her honor, I decided to run the 5K part of it. This year will mark the 4th time I've run on her team, and the miracle is that my co-worker is still with us.
Loves - I guess I need to add the run to my list -
September 21 - NatsFan - NOCC Ovarian Cancer Awareness 5K, Annapolis, MD
The running clinic had a 4.5 mile long run scheduled for Saturday, but we were up at our cabin for the weekend. We found an old trolley trail that has been re-done as a gravel trail, so we did our own 4.5 miles on the trail. It was a cool and misty morning, so it was a refreshing run - at least until we got to the part of the trail that goes past the wastewater treatment plant - that smell wasn't quite as refreshing!
Tomorrow's track workout sounds brutal - a mile warm up, then a 2 laps interval run, recovery lap, another 2 laps interval, recovery lap. then a 3 lap interval, recovery lap, then another 3 lap interval, then a 1 mile cool down. Wow.
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Thanks goldlining. I am more of a walker, but now that I have a couple of friends willing to hit the pavement with me, I might run more often. I used to hangout on the 2013 thread and I changed my screen name.
Mary (NatsFan), it's really great to hear that your co-worker is still here. I ran (slow jogged) the NOCC Pittsburgh race last year (it was 5 miles) when I found out how many BC previvors/survivors had their ovaries removed due to the high mortality rate of ovarian cancer. That was shortly after my first revision post DIEP. This year, they made it 5K and I was in much better shape so I was able to run the entire distance. My legs are really sore today
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Good for you Morningsun! A PR over your time 9 years ago AND pre BC
is fantastic! Wow, it's almost like those 9 years never happened.Goldlining,
losing 20 lbs in a couple of months is amazing! I salute you! Were
you not tracking your calories-in before? I usually track my calories, just in a notebook, but that's not really enough at the moment. I acquired 5--OK, maybe
7--stubborn new pounds over the summer and I just can't seem to lose
them. But I usually lose weight as the semester gets busy so I'm hoping
that's my secret weapon. And I'm trying to walk little bits in the
evening in addition to runs every other morning. Not that I'm managing
to run every other morning very steadily. But I had a great treadmill
run this morning with my old tunes on my MP3, back to basics, and
restored my faith in myself a little. Kept upping the speed, did 10 minutes more than I planned. It's no 11 turning into 16 like you LuvLuLu, and it's not a kickass (maybe a little brutal!) running clinic like you NatsFan, but it's good for now. -
I'd tracked calories in a notebook in the past, periodically, but not for almost 20 years. I just couldn't get motivated for one reason or another with my mood, but with the link between Garmin Connect and My Fitness Pal, it clicked. The key was the magic tie-in that I get more calories to eat if I do more steps. So now, I will say "if I want to eat what I want, I have to go for a run!" That has helped both my training and my food consumption. I think it accounts for the improvement in my training level when I did the Disneyland Half weekend. Running to eat: just what I needed to keep up with my training commitment! Anyone with a Garmin that uses Garmin Connect might take a look at the MFP app. I think it was free, it has a ton of ingredients and prepared foods in the database and you can add recipes, and it tracks nutrient breakdowns like carbs, fat, sodium, protein, if you're tracking those. That helped when I was carb loading.
I set a pretty reasonable daily allowance too, so I have not had to really deny myself much. And I have not gone over my allowance, other than intentionally while carb loading. I used to tell myself that maybe the reason I'd been unable to get rid of the baby weight was that my body knew I would need it later for the DIEP, but after they used that part, I still had a bunch elsewhere, and now it was migrating to my legs because there was nowhere on the abdomen for it to be. Yuck. Now, I can wear a skirt (granted a 24" length), and I'm having a few suits taken in so I don't look like a deflated balloon when I lecture. When I lose another inch, maybe new suits.
(During the school term, I tend to miss lunch, but I also tend to miss exercising, so it's a wash. And I end up eating crackers out of my drawer or whatever. Hope I don't have to let the suits out again!)
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Only crackers?!? I have an entire drawer dedicated to snacks. Various granola and protein bars, peanuts, trail mix, crackers, Teddy Grahams (have to watch out for those delicious things), cup-a-soup, tea, cocoa. I have a Garmin but not being very techie, I don't use Garmin Connect. I suppose you'd say it's easy to set up, but your easy might not be my easy. Also I do a lot of my runs on the treadmill without the Garmin. But I should really try MyFitnessPal anyway. You're not the first person I've heard of losing double digits that way. And I might be clever enough to sync it with my FitBit. I like my notebook system. I track my exercise, research hours, and other chores there in addition to food, dividing each page into quadrants. Takes nearly an hour to draw lines in a new notebook with the templates I made from a cereal box. Nerdy, with high tolerance for tedium. I can imagine doing both online and notebook tracking though.
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I snack vs meals at work (school) and chase kids all day. yet during summer/spring break/xmas break.. i pretty much move less and only have dinner. feels much better moving and snacking.
Only 60 days til Disney Avengers Half Marathon...might have to chase the kids more for training
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OH my, I guess I am behind the times. I still write down my workouts in a journal and I don't have a Garmin although it sounds like it might be a good investment. I really need to get with it. I might even consider getting a Nook. (I've always been so stubborn - I like BOOKS and NEWSPAPERS, they are becoming obsolete!) Panthra, RunFree, I like to snack - but I do try to keep control, because other than my workouts I'm at a desk all day, and the snacking for me can turn into mindless eating.
RunFree, you're awesome. It's all good and you know it!
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I lost 20 of my 22 chemo pounds a few years ago using Loseit.com, but gradually I've put back about 10 of those pounds. Soooo, I logged into Loseit.com for the first time last week to start again. I was pleasantly surprised to find that it now syncs nicely with my Fuelband. Modern technology is amazing!!!
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Heads up everyone that the #WDWHalf and #WDWMarathon in January that was sold out now has a limited number of places up for grabs -- the places they were holding for Goofy Challenge are being made available to people who just want to do one of the runs. Click for the "Goofy Giveback" if you're interested.
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Thanks LuvLuLu! I do enjoy my clunky notebook.
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Hi all. A short PSA here. I live in a small University town and one of our students has gone missing and it's been quite disconcerting. It's been a wake up call re: personal safety and the risks we all take in our daily lives. If you run alone outdoors, please ditch the headphones. Save them for the treadmill. If you really truly do feel the need to run outdoors with music and you are by yourself, at least drop down to one earbud and keep one ear open. It's easy enough to zone out and lose awareness of your surroundings without music. And if it's dusk or dark, reflective gear is inexpensive and is well worth the investment - a slap band or two, a vest or a headlamp can make a difference...Finally, carry some form of id with you. RoadID makes Velcro shoe tags that aren't too expensive, and I'd imagine that there are other vendors out there who do also. If you wanted to go lowtech, you could write your name and number in your shoe with a permanent marker. OK getting off my soapbox now....
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Good reminders, Loves.
I use the RoadID bracelet - my dh and I always check with each other to make sure we've both remembered to wear them whenever we run - we have not only our home phone listed, but each other's cell phone. I have LE, so I also have "No IV/Needles/BP Rt Arm" on mine as well, so it serves as a kind of medical alert bracelet for me as well.
Dh and I will always let the other know what route we plan to take if we're going out for a run by ourselves. We also have given each other rights to the "Find my iPhone" app, so if one of is running alone, the other can occasionally check on where they are to make sure everything looks OK.
And yep, slap bands and reflective garments are inexpensive and a potential lifesaver now that the days are shorter and we're having to run before sunrise and after dark.
I admit I'm guilty of running with earbuds in most of the time, but I lower the volume so I can hear the noise around me unless I'm in a really busy place with tons of people. If I find I'm running through an isolated place with few passersby, I'll ditch them completely.
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I have "permanent earbuds" in that I can never hear my surroundings, so I'm paranoid at all times. I carry my provincial health insurance card as it has ID on it, in case I keel over they know where I came from.
This afternoon, I'm off to Europe and hoping this stupid head cold does not go into my lungs. I will try to map some runs in at least 3 places while I'm there. And after a week of warm weather there, it's back to seasonal and rainy. Oh well, a bad day in Europe is better than a good day in the office, right?
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What kind of job do you have, goldlining, you get to travel all the time and to interesting places too? I am asking with every fiber on my turning green. happy trails everyone.
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I'm a prof, and my research program requires a certain amount of knowledge transfer and exchange with end users to be sure that I am not idly puttering around in a vacuum. So I go where the end users are. I certainly am not complaining about that part
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Goldlining.. I almost got to go to London as a study abroad interpreter since they use BSL and the students needed ASL..but the couple decided not to go.. darn it. Have fun on your trip. try sudafed for the plane ride and emergent-C saves me often.
heres a tip that they told us back in elementary school.. ALWAYS.. walk/run/bike/skate FACING traffic so no cars can come up behind you and snatch you. Ive always have followed that rule. also gives me something to watch (count the red cars..etc)
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Instead of running at my first stop, I walked all around town and racked up many km on no sleep. Was cool that I bumped into a big deaf rally on the way to catch the train to Paris but didn't have time to tag along with them on the rally. (It was their thing for International Deaf Awareness Week.)
I spent today in Paris. Started the day with a run along the Seine - unfortunately, just as I reached my hotel after looping back, it was pouring, so I stopped at 6.5km and showered and changed, then went out walking for another 21km. Passed a lot of people running today and wished I hadn't stopped at the 6.5km point. There is something to see around every corner here. I could spend so much time here... Garmin recovery advisor says no running until Wednesday.
Off to Amsterdam at dawn, and business takes over. Meeting an ASL interpreter there. There are some (very few) ASL interpreters in Europe. Haven't had to bring one with me from home yet, but I've had to relocate them from one country to another.
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