June 2014 Surgery Sisters

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  • bethq
    bethq Member Posts: 311
    edited July 2014

    Ojoy my PS said I could use any kind of lotion to massage the scars...but I had to ask because I had read about it on here....she didn't offer the info.

  • Juliecc
    Juliecc Member Posts: 4,868
    edited July 2014

    Same here.  I had to ask my PS and she said I could use unscented lotion 3-4 weeks out.

  • ojoyjoy
    ojoyjoy Member Posts: 110
    edited July 2014

    ally- thanks for the info. My PS didn't use alloderm on me. He said I didn't need it. Hope that doesn't effect how stable my TEs are. I'll look into getting some bio oil. Manicures don't usually last on me either when I'm working because I'm water all day unless, I do a gel manicure. If you get someone who does good gel polish it can last 2-3 weeks. 

  • Marren
    Marren Member Posts: 59
    edited July 2014

    Ojoyjoy- I'm so impressed that you made it to the relay for life. Good job!

    I haven't been out too much, and it's getting to me. I think I'll see how driving is today. It's been three weeks. 

    Oops the bold keeps going on and off. 

    Where I have my sentinel node biopsy it feels hard. Is that normal? 

    Also when I asked about the scars they said wait until the surgical tape is off. I don't know if it dissolves or it's taken off. I haven't looked too close because the scars freak me out. 

    Sandra- do you know if there is a straight to implant thread on here? I can't find one, but maybe I'm wording it wrong.

    I hope everyone is well.

    Jackie- I hope your feeling better. 

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited July 2014

    marren - here are some links.  If you type direct to implant in the search box you will get some references in other threads not specifically on the topic, but with individual's experiences:

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/44/topic/736507?page=107#post_3952193

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/44/topic/821044?page=1#post_4016262

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/44/topic/822015?page=1#post_4055294

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited July 2014

    There is no thread for direct to implant as far as I know. Why don't you start one?

  • Marren
    Marren Member Posts: 59
    edited July 2014

    thanks Specialk that first link has tons of info. 

    And Sandra that's another good idea I could start one. 

    Ever since surgery my skin(not my face) has felt a little bumpy like I have goosebumps. Has anyone else noticed that? My skin had been extra soft during chemo, one of the only good side effects.

  • ojoyjoy
    ojoyjoy Member Posts: 110
    edited July 2014

    Hi ladies- I was told bio oil or lotion for the scars. I said to the NP that I was surprised that my incisions we not done better, I was expecting a finer stitch job. She said that because they are going to open me back up again they aren't as meticulous as they will be when they do the exchange. She also said that because they are going to open me up again that dealing with the scars now doesn't really matter. It will be after the exchange when that comes in to play. She did say that using the bio oil or lotion will help with my skin though. So, I'm going to use it for that and my scars as it can't hurt. Has anyone else heard this?

    I got another 75cc in yesterday. They did the same last week and last week I just had a little discomfort. This time, I'm having a lot more discomfort. Been taking the Valium and broke down and took a half of Percocet at 3am. I'm feeling it in my upper back this time as well. Not sure if it's because I slept wrong or if it s because of the fill. Even though I'm sleeping on my back when I woke up from a nap yesterday I had the back pain too. Thinking I had myself propped up wrong as I still can't sleep totally flat. I go in next week for another fill and might have her do a little less if the discomfort last longer than a couple of days. I'm trying to get all my fills done before I start back up to work in sept. I've been approved for the picture forum and will make a post soon. Just need to take some pictures today.  

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited July 2014

    Reference oils - I used and am still using bio oil and coconut oil - I alternate days.  My PS is impressed on how soft and supple my skin has remained through the fills - hasn't helped my scars though lol.  I am fully filled at this point - stopped at 500 cc - and hopefully will be having exchange surgery sometime in September.

  • ojoyjoy
    ojoyjoy Member Posts: 110
    edited July 2014

    linda- I have coconut oil here at home now, I'll use that too. I think the more supple and soft the skin is the better. How exciting to be exchanging in Sept! I bet you can't wait to get these TEs out :)

  • kfinnigan
    kfinnigan Member Posts: 1,729
    edited July 2014

    I was putting aquaphor on my scars but my PS told me two days ago to stop the aquaphor, as you can develop an insensitivity to it and to now just use lotion.  My scars feel very soft!

  • HopeEllen
    HopeEllen Member Posts: 37
    edited July 2014

    My plastic surgeon gave me some sort of vitamin E cream for my scars. He also said they will work on them more at exchange but they are looking pretty good now and I'm at one month today - wow how time flies. I had a fill yesterday and he says I should only need one more and that will not be until August 20 because my PS is going on vacation and then I'm going on a vacation. 

    Glad everyone seems to be doing fairly well this week. 

  • Wizard50
    Wizard50 Member Posts: 113
    edited July 2014

    HopeEllen, it's hard to believe it's one month today since we had surgery.  I have my first fill next week and since chemo is in my near future there's no rush.  Tissue expanders are still uncomfortable most of the time but not painful.  I had a port inserted 2 days ago and that pain made me forget about the discomfort from the TE's.  I still have numbness and skin sensitivity on the underside of my left arm (cancer side).  Overall I'm feeling really good  :)

    I hope that everyone is doing well.

  • thinkpink4ever
    thinkpink4ever Member Posts: 205
    edited July 2014

    Today makes 7 weeks since my surgery.  I went to Jazzercise today and was able to keep up better than I expected.  I've also noticed that my breasts are softening up a little and actually moving.  They had been feeling like rock hard mounds on my chest during these post-op weeks.  I guess I'm making progress, so I'll keep on keeping on.

    I need to catch up on the posts, but until then, I hope everyone is healing well and feeling well, physically and emotionally.  This is quite a journey that we're on, so try to stay encouraged, my friends...

    One love,

    tp4ever

  • Ally2345
    Ally2345 Member Posts: 320
    edited July 2014

    tp4ever-  Love jazzercise but haven't been able to go in years...stopped having classes in our area.:(  That is really awesome that you were able to keep up pretty well.  Getting my stamina and wind back has been a slower process than I had expected.  Glad the girls are settling in a bit.  Take care!

    Ally

  • Jrcats
    Jrcats Member Posts: 3
    edited July 2014

    6-20-14 Lumpectomy & 13 lymph nodes.  Having numb burning pain from my rt. elbow up to my rt. armpit. Been told it may take 6 months before it heals. Haven't used any cream on the scar but reading other posts it may be a good idea. Having a PET scan on 8-1 to see if there is any other cancer. Tests results will be given on 8-8. It appears that cancer runs in my family. My dad died at age 54 of colon cancer (smoker), 7 year younger sister had melanoma on her leg last year & now I had breast cancer. The important info regarding this is that we were/are all blood type A. I asked my cancer dr. about it & he said about 60% to 65% of us patients are A blood type. Anyone else coming across this connection?

  • thinkpink4ever
    thinkpink4ever Member Posts: 205
    edited July 2014

    Hi Jrcats!  Welcome to our June Surgery Sisters group!  So how are you doing post-op?  Hope you're feeling well these days...

    This is a wonderful group and everyone is full of advice, love and support.  Glad you're here...

    One love,

    tp4ever

  • Jrcats
    Jrcats Member Posts: 3
    edited July 2014

    I'm just waiting to see if there's any other cancer to deal with. It was quite a surprise to have breast cancer as it does not run in the family. I found this site for cancer support & what I may have to deal with in the future. I've been told that I probably will have radiation for 5 days a week for 4 or 5 weeks. Also, may need to take hormones for 5 years. I've been reading the info on two different ones they give & it appears one can possibly cause cervical cancer. I don't feel the need to take a med that has that caution.

  • HopeEllen
    HopeEllen Member Posts: 37
    edited July 2014

    wizard50, hope all gives well with the start of your chemo. Do you know yet how long you will be doing chemo?

    Jrcats, welcome to this site and sorry that you have to be here but you will find great support and information for your fellow sisters. 

  • thinkpink4ever
    thinkpink4ever Member Posts: 205
    edited July 2014

    Jrcats, did you know that only 5-10% of breast cancers are hereditary?  Alot of people think that you're only at high risk if you have family members with a history of breast cancer.  However, having a family history or family member with breast cancer, does not play a large role in most women's chances of developing breast cancer.  90-95% of all women diagnosed with breast cancer have no family history!!  The BCO Genetics section is very interesting and informative with regards to this topic... http://www.breastcancer.org/risk/factors/genetics...

    I hope your lumpectomy took care of all your cancer, and you're able to move on to your radiation.  I had 6 weeks of radiation after my first diagnosis, and also did 7 years of hormonal therapy - 5 years of Tamoxifen and 2 years of Femara.  There will be side effects, but I am convinced that these drugs are effective.  13 years after my first diagnosis, and 6 years after I completed my hormone treatment, my cancer returned.  Talk about a surprise!  I wasn't ready for that, but it's gone well so far.  A mammogram and early detection has once again saved my life!

    One love,

    tp4ever

      

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited July 2014

    Jrcats, in all my reading I've never heard of any connection between blood type and breast cancer. I did some research online just now and found that some studies show stomach cancer is slightly higher in blood type A people. Breast cancer is an equal opportunity disease, however. The few studies about A have been discounted because they were too small and not performed properly. The larger studies have shown no connection.

  • HopeEllen
    HopeEllen Member Posts: 37
    edited July 2014

    Just read this and thought I'd share....you may want to share it with your friends and family too What Your Friends with Cancer Want You to Know (but were afraid to say

    Hope everyone is having a relaxing weekend. 

  • Wizard50
    Wizard50 Member Posts: 113
    edited July 2014

    HopeEllen - I still don't have the exact date for chemo but I'm thinking the 1st week of August.  It was first scheduled for 7/24 but Ct scan came back abnormal so now I'm scheduled for a colonoscopy on Tuesday.  Hoping that comes back clean so I can get chemo started.  I'm not looking forward to chemo but the sooner I start the sooner it's over.  I'll have 6 rounds of TCH, 1 round every 3 weeks.  

    Thanks for sharing the article on friends and cancer. It's so accurate.  I especially relate to # 7.  My BF has a hard time leaving me alone and a few times I've just wanted to kick him out!  Lol. He's been awesome but really...I'm a big girl and I'll be ok being alone.

  • Sammyjokk
    Sammyjokk Member Posts: 23
    edited July 2014

    KLJ

    Thankyou so much for your "White Cow" recipe!! It has been a lifesaver for me as I have had to use it at least once a week since my surgery.

    I have so many posts to catch up on here and it's going to take me a pretty long time. Happy to hear some of you are doing so well. I'm sorry there are a few others not. Your all still in my thoughts and prayers. 

    I've been reading a lot about LE and cording as my BS says I have some in my left breast. So I haven't been posting much. 

    I'm going to be writing a book here. My apologies.

    I had my surgery June 23rd. Everything went great. A few changes to my surgery and I ended up with DIEP on one side and Tram Flap on right side. Finally when the day came I was so calm it was crazy. I was so grateful I would be on the other side soon. My surgery took 8 hours. Really the only thing I remember about waking up was wanting to see if I had something there and this hot air blanket thing over me for a few days. It was to keep circulation going. I came home after 5 days and was doing my arm exercises I'd been given booklets on. 

    My drains were out the first week I was home. My left side was the DIEP side and it has been swollen and painful since day 1. I also had 10 nodes removed instead of 2 on that side also. The TRAM side is doing amazing. I went to my post op with my PS 2 weeks later and was told I needed to rest in bed, not do Anything, no arm exercises nothing for 6 weeks. He said I was doing too much. I couldn't believe it. If I did any less I would have been going backwards seriously. He still said rest do Nothing at all period. He finally explained my flesh apparently was very spongy and he said would rip very easy. Also my veins weren't good on my left side where he did the DIEP. Henceforth the Tram on the right. I went home pretty upset to think I'd be sitting and laying around for 6 weeks. Well I'll hit 5 weeks today and I've been feeling pretty good except for the swelling in my left breast and my tummy opening up a really tiny amount until yesterday. My hubby dropped some pills on the floor and he has really bad arthritis in his knees and didn't want him down on the floor getting pills. Well I got down on my hands and knees without even thinking. I thought I was being very careful, until I got up. Now I have horrible pain in my left side and it's pretty hard and hot. Then today I tried to break a pill in half and I felt this aweful tearing feeling in my left breast. Now it's swollen up twice it's size. Seriously I couldn't have been more careful and I'm really fed up that I'm so far out from my surgery and am dealing with this kind of pain and swelling. Also i can't stand this strange sunburn prickly feeling in my skin sometimes I can't stand my clothes on even.I have always been able to withstand a lot. Even my moods have been great. But tonight I just want to cry so much. I can only lift a cup of coffee and am unable to lift anything heavier. I feel like this is never going to end. Also I've had my MIL cooking all of our meals and she's been wonderful but she is 82 and she needs a break. My hubby does everything else. Seriously I'm feeling so wimpy and oh woe is me. I'm not looking for sympathy here but seriously I don't want to be sitting here endlessly waiting to get on with my life. I want my ROM back, I want to get out and go for walks. Etc etc etc. I'm calling my PS tomorrow to see if I can get in to see him. Do something about this enormous mound on my chest and just get on with it. Have any of you who have gone through your surgery had to just do nothing? How are you doing? Or dealing with this? Thanks for letting me vent yet once again.

  • trish01254
    trish01254 Member Posts: 128
    edited July 2014


    Sammyjo - so sorry you are going through all that.  I only had one side done and was able to gradually begin returning back to a normal routine.  I'm 7 weeks on Wed.  I went back to work last week.  I have belly pain still.  Feels bruised and I swear I have a hernia near my ribcage area.  Hurts to use core muscles, cough, laugh, etc. keeping wrapped tight.  Glad you are asking for that appt with your PS.  You will feel better knowing more about what is going on with your healing.  It's ok to feel the me me's. 

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited July 2014

    Sammy, after my BMX with immediate implants I developed a bad gram positive bacterial infection within hours of surgery. I was in the hospital a week then sent home with my IV and a nurse for another week with orders to do nothing until I returned for an operation to begin to fix the damage done. Three more weeks went by before I was free of the IV antibiotics and drains and allowed to take some short walks. The doctor said my body needed all my energy to go into healing. It was a l-o-n-g five weeks and hard to do nothing. My husband was an angel and did everything including making sure I was following doctor's orders. My situation wasn't nearly as difficult as yours. How frightening to have such a hard recovery. My heart goes out to you. Keep us posted. Fingers crossed that this will be only a bump in the road to recovery.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited July 2014

    jrcats - since nearly half of the U.S. population is blood type A it is not that surprising that many cancer patients are as well.  I doubt that the majority of oncologists even know patient blood type as the routine testing in oncology offices does not include testing that reveals type, and I have not come across any information about connection between blood type and breast cancer. 

  • Sammyjokk
    Sammyjokk Member Posts: 23
    edited July 2014

    Trish01254

     I can't believe your back at work all ready. I'm sorry your still experiencing pain. If you think you have a hernia maybe get it checked also. I have pain up in my rib area like bruising. I went to see my PS yesterday  he said it can take months to get back to normal activity and also a year to just get over this surgery completely, he said I can go for walks. I'm so happy about that!! I have a large accumulation of fluid in my left breast and that's the one the BS took 10 nodes from. He also said it was normal to have swelling and more pain in that side. He said it should subside in about 6 weeks. He couldn't see signs of infection but did say if it gets red or really hot that I'm to go back immediately. My incision on my tummy seems to be healing well he said. I'm still not aloud to use my arms except for very small things. But I'm happy I'm not chained to this recliner anymore. I get pain in my breastbone when I cough laugh also. I thought I had asked a million questions b4 my surgery but still he didn't say that I can recall that this was going to be such a long recoup after the surgery. But he also reminded me this was a very huge surgery and I need to be patient. Easy for him to say when I'm not very patient and I hate asking for help or people doing things for me. I'm a very independent person and always the one to help. That's much easier for me.

    Sandra

    Thankyou for your kind words. Wow your saying my recoup is aweful? I think I'm very lucky after reading your reply that I didn't have any infection or have to have anymore surgery or IV antibiotics like you did. All I have to do was sit / lay around. You've had so much surgery. Reading your signature seems your a very patient person. I think I would have called it quits and gone flat. My husband has also been an angel but I've always been the caretaker so this is very alien to me. I'll keep you in my prayers for a good outcome with your next surgery.

  • ojoyjoy
    ojoyjoy Member Posts: 110
    edited July 2014

    Sammy- Hang in there....this shall pass. Yay for the okay to walk! This will help in your recovery.  I, like you, am independent. I know how hard it is to ask for help. This has been one of the lessons for me on this journey and maybe you too. It's okay to ask for help and I should more often. I find that in the past that I've taken on too much. We can still be independent and also ask for help in life. Sending healing thoughts your way.

  • ojoyjoy
    ojoyjoy Member Posts: 110
    edited August 2014

    hello ladies- I finally had my appointment with the oncologist today. He was worth the wait! He's the Chief of Onocolgy, lucky me. He spent over a hour with my fiancée and I, explaining everything and answering our questions. We are still waiting on the onkotype test to come in, should be back in a couple of days. He feels by my path results and the fact that I'm off the charts ER/PR positive 95%, KI67: less than 10%, the Oncotype will come back low. If that's the case then I'll do tamoxifen for a month to two, then switch to an AI with ovary suppression shots once a month. No need to take my ovaries out. I should get started on something by the end of this week or beginning of next. He said that even if the onkotype came back in the medium range, the grey area, he would still recommend no chemo and the course of action I stated above. So, today was a good news day. I'm much more at ease now that I have a plan to work. Of course, until the test comes back I will not be at total ease but feeling a sense of calm tonight. 

    Hope all of you are healing well from surgery. I'm finally starting to feel like my old self energy wise....only took about 5 weeks, lol. Sending out healing vibes to all. Gentle ((hugs)) 

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