June 2014 Surgery Sisters

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  • bethq
    bethq Member Posts: 311
    edited July 2014

    Linda I love that!

    Sleep....what is that? I have to start back to work next week and my graduate classes (online) started up two weeks ago. Lack of sleep is really hurting me. I have been in the recliner downstairs. Some nights I try and start in bed but if I wake up for any reason I can't get back to sleep so down to the recliner I go. Needless to say this routine is not good for my husband either. He has bags under his eyes. What the heck to do about the darn back pain? I am contemplating getting one of those blow up donuts they use for rectal surgeries? Its not just my lower back but my tailbone. And now since my fill yesterday all of the muscles across the middle of my back feel as if they are ready to tear with the slightest movement. All of this is leading me to end the fills soon. My next is in 10 days and I think it will be my last.

    I will call this my morning rant after a sleepless night

  • Juliecc
    Juliecc Member Posts: 4,868
    edited July 2014

    LOL Linda.  I love it.  Our TEs kind of feel like hard lemons.

    Sleep is still an issue for me.  I still have to sleep on my back but have back issues from spondylolisthesis.  It helps if I put a pillow under my knees so my back is more rounded.  I also found that taking the tamoxifen in the morning instead of at night helps me sleep better.  I still get hot and sleep with a fan blowing on me.

    Wizard, I am sorry about your path report and the treatments you will be doing.  You will get through it!

  • Purplegurll
    Purplegurll Member Posts: 135
    edited July 2014

    Hi June sisters,

    It's been awhile since I have posted. I've been reading back and it looks like many are well on the road to recovery. My surgery was July 2nd so I'm a bit behind many of you ladies. I still have in all 4 drains from my BMX with lat dorsi/TE's. I hope 3-4 of those are removed by the PS on Monday. I spiked a high fever this week but my temp is back to normal today so not sure what is/was up with that. 

    Like several of the other ladies here, it's been a struggle with weight loss. Just not much of an appetite and I hate the taste of milk so those "shake-like" protein drinks aren't a good option. If anyone has tried a protein bar that they really have liked, please let me know.

    Wizard50, I understand how you feel and will be thinking of you.  For me, it's been like peeling back the layers of an onion. First it was a second trip down the road with BC following DCIS lumpectomy and radiation 5 years ago. Then it was learning it was again triple negative. It ended up as twice the size they originally thought from biopsy and MRI (ILC apparently has that tendency) And then there was lymph node involvement which my BS had not originally expected. I told the oncologist I really need some good news. This coming week I am scheduled for a PET scan, echocardiogram and port placement. Then six chemo treatments each 21 days apart. Fingers crossed all goes well and no more surprises (or only good surprises) from here on out. Take care everyone. 

  • Frostecat
    Frostecat Member Posts: 447
    edited July 2014
  • turtle42
    turtle42 Member Posts: 139
    edited July 2014

    tomorrow will be one month since my mastectomy. I still have one drain in my back. I was almost to the point of having little drainage. Then yesterday it started draining 60 ml every 12 hours and today it is at 80 ml every 12 hours. Also my back down by the bottom of my ribs is really swollen. I think this is the end of the drain site. I have had a horrible headache all weekend. 

    I was thinking of calling the after hour line to my ps but I don't want to over react. Has anyone else had this happen?

    Hope you are all doing well!

    Jackie

  • Helenna
    Helenna Member Posts: 86
    edited July 2014

    Jackie  I would definitely call in case you have an infection of some sorts, you don't want to go backwards in your recovery. Tomorrow is 5 weeks since my mastectomy so we are about 1 week apart.  Sending ((hugs)) my sister. Please update me on what you find out or do. xoxo

  • Purplegurll
    Purplegurll Member Posts: 135
    edited July 2014

    Jackie,

    You should call the PS. Are you running a temp as well as the headache? You also mentioned swelling. Is the drainage clear or cloudy?  I had a fever and headache on Thursday. No other symptoms like from a cold or flu. The PS put me on an antibiotic and I'm feeling better now. I will see my PS surgeon for follow up tomorrow when the office opens. Hope you feel better soon! 

  • turtle42
    turtle42 Member Posts: 139
    edited July 2014

    Thanks for the responses. I am not running a fever. If I was that would definitely make me call. The drainage is yellow (almost urine color,tmi) and I would say maybe a little cloudy. There is also some white deposits sticking to the side of the bulb. 

    I have called the nurse in the past to ask questions and she always thinks I am overreacting and maybe I am. That's what makes me hesitant to call.

    Jackie

  • Margie7121
    Margie7121 Member Posts: 19
    edited July 2014

    Hello Ladies!

    Jackie there is no such thing as being overreacting, your body tells you what it needs and how it feels and the nurse NEEDS to listen to you it is her JOB, so if you are feeling something is not quite in place make the call and put your mind to ease, do not keep quite and then keep on wondering what if... what if.... make the call and put your mind to ease, you need to focus on getting better and getting healed that is your main priority, so even if you call the nurse 20 times per day make the call and ask your questions, if you´re mind is at ease you can concentrate on the getting better part faster!!

    Just catching up on everybody, been so busy got back to work a week after my surgery (with lots of pain, but determined to make it work) but yet lots to do and not that many hours left in the day! (I am self employed which makes it a bit easier) I felt getting back to work and keeping my mind busy instead of lying in bed made my recovery easier and faster. When I was diagnosed with BC I felt devastated but then I told my husband this does not change anything we are still going on with life as close to normal as possible, I did not want our lives to come to a standstill, I said and promised myself I will keep to my old routine as much as possible and maybe that helped not sure... even while getting chemo, I got my infusions on the Friday and by Monday I was back working again.

    I got outstanding news on Thursday, my path report came back ALL negative I was so happy that tears were rolling down my cheeks from both hubby and me. But I am still going thru with radiations as prescribed, want to make 100% sure this beast is broken and gone! I might have to get Herceptin for 12 months (due to being HER2+++, but not 100% sure will know that in 2 weeks when I see the Oncologist again, he did tell my I might get away with some oral medications to keep the cancer from recurring, hope that it could get done instead of the Herceptin via IV infusion, not so keen on getting a needle stuck into me anymore.....

    My wound has completely healed, I can move and use my arm as I was before, it is still a little bit stiff sometimes in the mornings but I have done my exercises 3 times per day and that has saved the arm, I am thankful for everybody who has helped and supported me thru this rough time and for God giving me the strength to fight this beast! Even this morning my husband told me the color in my cheeks are coming back, he told my I was a horrible ghost white/grey color for the past 6 months, so so happy, I feel FANTASTIC and I pray that all of you can feel GREAT and FANTASTIC too! 

    Wizard50 and Marren I am also Her2+ and I had to go thru chemo first as the tumor was too big to remove, the tumor has shrunk to almost nothing when I had my mastectomy, all my lymph nodes on the right hand side were taken out and again the path report came back clean, where before the chemo 3 of them were infected and had tumors, so the chemo did it´s work. Wizard50 chemo is not THAT bad and we all respond differently to it, for me the first half of the chemo was ok it was only the last 2 infusions (I had 6 cycles in total)  that kept me under the weather for a little bit longer, but you know you are strong and will get thru this too! I am starting my rads on Aug1st I will keep you posted on it. The worst part of chemo was the mental part of loosing my hair, but you know I am 6 weeks post chemo and now the most amazing and wonderful part is my hair growing out again, right now it is like thin baby hair but it is AMAZING and it is like a new life being given to us, a second chance in life, I am going to grab it with both hands and feet and make this one count FOR SURE!!!

    Sending LOADS of positive energy and thoughts to everybody, you are all in my prayers!

    Big hugs

  • Marren
    Marren Member Posts: 59
    edited July 2014

    Margie-I'm so very glad you got good news, congrats! Are chemo regime was completely different. Are you in the US? My chemo worked so well for me too, it was gone by the time a had surgery. 

    So no herceptin or perjeta during chemo? And a pill for her+? I'll have to enquire about that. I'm on herceptin infusions. Well I will be be if my next echo is good, had to hit the pause button on that last month. 

    Jackie- now I don't know if it's different for the back, but when my mothers surgeon left her drains in for 5 weeks she got an infection. We ended up finding a new BS, she did many things we didn't appreciate. Including yelling at me for asking questions, haha. My mom never knows what to ask so I was just trying to help. Anyhow when I told my surgeon about my mom, she said she never leaves them in longer than 3 weeks due to the risk of infection. And what your describing that it had gone down, and then spiked back up. The color etc, sounds just like my mom. I wish I could explain it as well as my surgeon but it's like the drain keeps  syphoning it and creates a viscous cycle. Did they have you on antibiotics anyway? I would definitely call, it sounds like you may have an infection. And hopefully they will take that darn thing out.   

  • ojoyjoy
    ojoyjoy Member Posts: 110
    edited July 2014

    Jackie- I agree with everyone else, call! 

    Margie- you are an inspiration! You go girl!! 

    For those of you sisters having stomach/appetite issues, my friend brought me over some liquid probiotics from American Health. It's actually good for everyone whether your having issues or not. Anyhow, she bought it at our local Heath food store and you find it in the refrigerated section. After having a few doses of this (you can take as much as you want) I have had 3 small meals other than smoothies with protein powder. Last night I felt hungry and had a little bit of chicken at 9pm. I'm sure that not being on anything for discomfort, including Advil and Tylenol, helps. They have different flavors but were out so she brought me the plain. It just tastes a little sour so I take it quick and then drink water. Totally doable and worth it. Here is a picture of it. This is going to be a part of my daily regimen for life.

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  • ojoyjoy
    ojoyjoy Member Posts: 110
    edited July 2014

    I forgot to tell you all. My BFF Amy (she is like family to me) encouraged me to go and do the survivor lap at a local Relay for Life event yesterday morning if I was feeling up for it. A friend of hers participates in this event yearly. I've done this event about 6 years ago but was glad Amy pushed me to go out and do the survivor lap. When filling out the paper work I did it in honor of all of us on BCO as well as the many friends and family who have been affected by this horrible disease C. Here we are pre first lap. 

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  • turtle42
    turtle42 Member Posts: 139
    edited July 2014

    has anyone found that message works to help with the swelling? I still haven't called the on call doctor. I don't think there will be any harm waiting till morning. Still have a bad headache but no fever. They told me last time I called that no fever equals no infection. The pain has spread to the front of my ribs and to my spine. Also when I move around I feel crunching where the drain is.

    Jackie

  • Frostecat
    Frostecat Member Posts: 447
    edited July 2014

    Margie - back to work after one week - YIKES - I would have never been able to do that!

    Ojoy - looking good, glad you were able to get out and do that!

  • HopeEllen
    HopeEllen Member Posts: 37
    edited July 2014

    turtle42, I had really bad bruising and swelling on my left side (which was supposed to be my good side) and gently massaged arnica gel that I got from Whole Foods where the swelling and bruising was the worst. It helped with the bruising a lot and also with the pain. A heating pad also helped with the pain in my back. 

    I hope you are able to get your drains out soon. I know they are very annoying.

    Ojoyjoy, you look great! Good for you for going with your friend. 

  • Ally2345
    Ally2345 Member Posts: 320
    edited July 2014

    ojoyjoy-  Great pic!!  

    Margie-  Woohoo!!  Great news!!

    Hugs to all and let's have a great week!!

    Ally

  • turtle42
    turtle42 Member Posts: 139
    edited July 2014

    Called ps this morning and they said without a fever it  should be ok to be seen tomorrow. It's more painful today and feels warm to the touch. Also is red. They don't seem concerned at all. I still am. Still have headache and just feel blah.

  • Ally2345
    Ally2345 Member Posts: 320
    edited July 2014

    turtle42- That stinks.  I can't believe they won't see you today.  So sorry you are going through this and hope you feel better soon!

    Ally

  • turtle42
    turtle42 Member Posts: 139
    edited July 2014

    Thanks Ally. I really love my ps but not the staff so much.

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited July 2014

    turtle42 - are you taking anything that might mask a fever?  tylenol or anything?   I think I might insist on seeing someone - you shouldn't have teh anxiety of waiting another day - I am sure they could squeeze you in somewhere today

  • Helenna
    Helenna Member Posts: 86
    edited July 2014

    turtle42  I am so sorry you are going through this, you would think they would want you to come in today? Do you have a nurse navigator at the BS office who you could speak to about this, they might be able to talk to the right person at ps office to get you in today. Otherwise you may want to just call them back and tell them you are feeling worse and absolutely need to come in today.

    Ojoy  thanks for doing that on behalf of all the bco gals!   gorgeous pic, I bet you guys had fun and I'm sure it was great for your spirit and energy level. Exercise is so beneficial in so many ways. Thanks for sharing with us! xoxo

  • ojoyjoy
    ojoyjoy Member Posts: 110
    edited July 2014

    turtle- I'm so sorry you're having to go through this. I think Linda505 brings ups a good point about taking anything that might help to mask the fever. I'm with everyone as for calling and demanding to get into today. The truth is, it is worse with the redness and tenderness. Hope you get to feeling better soon. 

    Thanks for all the cheers of me getting out and walking at the event. It was good emotionally and physically. I survived one cancer and now I'm surviving this BC crap. I say survive BC because I had my yearly physical right before my first biopsy. Of course, I had many questions because of my upcoming biopsy. My GP said to me that the moment your are diagnosed you are considered a survivor, as you are surviving BC. When she said that it just clicked with me on some level. We are all survivors on here even durning our fight. No matter what individual battle you are having, some harder than others, you are still a survivor. Don't forget that sisters! 

  • trish01254
    trish01254 Member Posts: 128
    edited July 2014


    Happy to read your good news, Margie.  Happy tears are the best.  I love a good cry.  :)

    Agree with everyone, Ojoy, beautiful pic.  Thanks for thinking of all of us.

  • jbdayton
    jbdayton Member Posts: 700
    edited July 2014

    I have pages to catch up on, been away from the internet for awhile.  Decided to post and catch up later.

    My wound is the entire lower half of my flap opened back up after the staples were removed.

    I did wet/dry bandaging for about 6 weeks with little progress. Today I was hooked up to a wound vac pump to see if we can speed up this healing process. I will let you know when I start seeing progress. It would have probably taken another 4 months of wet/dry bandaging. I am hoping to cut the time down to 2 months or less. 

    I have been busy with my family even with this problem.  My daughter and son in law will leave to go back overseas July 30.  I will probably be fairly scarce until then.  I have really enjoyed having them home for the last month.

    So glad to see most everyone is progressing nicely.  I still would do this surgery again no doubt about it.  

    Hope everyone continues to have better weeks ahead.  We are survivors.

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited July 2014

    Jbdayton, that really stinks! So sorry you are having such difficult healing challenges. Please take as much time as you need...we'll hold down the fort here.

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  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited July 2014

    Turtle, I pray that you don't have an infection but sore and red aren't good signs. I too am shocked that you couldn't see your doctor today. I think I might have gone anyway and forced him/her to see me. We'll be waiting to hear how it goes tomorrow. Hang in there.

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  • turtle42
    turtle42 Member Posts: 139
    edited July 2014

    my doctor isn't in till friday so I went today and saw one of her partners. Last wednesday when she did the first fill she said she didn't like the way the needle felt going in. She was concerned that she might have ruptured the implant. This makes sense in my mind that the fluid out put would go from 40ml in 24hrs to 180 in 24 hours and would account for the swelling. Well the dr I saw today said my breast would be totally flat if that were to happen. He didn't  even examine me. It was a total waste of time to make the 30 minute trip in. 

    It feels like my breast has gone down some but we only did a small fill on that side due to the swelling. I guess I have to wait till my next appointment with my doctor on friday. I'm so concerned because if the expander is ruptured it will mean another survey to replace it. I can't take that much time off work. Ugh!!!

    Anyone have any experience with ruptured expanders?

    Thank you much for you kind words of encouragement. 

    Jackie

  • Margie7121
    Margie7121 Member Posts: 19
    edited July 2014

    Marren:  I am not in the US, I am an expat living in Mexico in the Caribbean!  No they did not give me Herceptin together with the chemo told me it would be better to use after chemo and surgery, don´t know why though.... About the Herceptin, I was told that it can only be given via IV which is true but apparently there is another drug that can be taken orally but that I will only find out on August 1st when I see the Oncologist, but I was scheduled to start Herceptin via IV infusions think it changed after the pathology report that I might be able to get away with something else... I hope so but again I will do anything to keep this beast intact and not play around.

    Ojoyjoy you make us pround and thanks for keeping the heads high for all our ladies dealing with BC and what a beautiful pic!

    turtle42: Hang in there girl we are all thinking of you and you are in my prayers, may this soon all go away!! You are strong and a fighter

    jbdayton: You are so correct WE ARE SURVIVORS and nothing can break us!! Enjoy the time with your children as every minute is always precious, good luck with that wound and may it heal in NO TIME!

    Hope everybody have a superb day, loads of positive energy and blessings coming your way!

    Big hugs to everybody!

  • ojoyjoy
    ojoyjoy Member Posts: 110
    edited July 2014

    thanks ladies for all your kind words about my pic.....thank god for sunglasses, lol. 

    Another baby step for me today......I drove myself to get a mani/pedi. I just couldn't handle the sight of my fingers and toes anymore. It's only a few miles away but I had to start somewhere. I was a little nervous about driving myself until today....woohoo! 

    Are any of you ladies putting anything on your incisions yet to help with scaring? Thursday will be 4 weeks post op for me. I'm going in tomorrow for my second fill with the NP and will she what she says but was curious about what you ladies have been told. 

  • Ally2345
    Ally2345 Member Posts: 320
    edited July 2014

    ojoy-  Love to celebrate progress and baby steps are progress!  Woohoo!!  I am a huge sucker for pedicures.  I am so hard on my hands, the manicures never seem to last.  As to your question, a friend gave me a surgery care package and it had aquaphor and bio-oil in it so I have been using that.  I only use the bio-oil at night because it tends to stain clothes so I just use an old t-shirt at night.  As for massages, my PT works my SNB scar and makes sure the alloderm is not sticking.  As for the lotion/oils, I can't tell if it is making a difference in my scars.  The PS said my skin looked good and the incisions looked really good but who knows what that means.  I want to try those steristrips (Scar-away or something) but I just haven't purchased them.  Congrats on the fills...it is kind of funny to watch the TEs expand.

    Ally

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