June 2014 Surgery Sisters

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  • ojoyjoy
    ojoyjoy Member Posts: 110
    edited July 2014

    Sandra & Alley - just got back from my fill and it went well. However, his nurse did not fill until I said ouch. She put in 75cc on each side and that was it. It didn't hurt at all and just feels a little tighter. From the sounds of it, I will feel it more later tonight. 

    Linda - My PS did prescribe Valium 5mg. I've been taking that at night before bed and it helps but I still have a hard time getting comfortable. Today the nurse said if it's bad I could take two. So that's what I'll do. 

    Beth & Pink - the blues will come and go. It's good to let yourself feel the emotions so you can move on. It took me five days to snap out of my last funk. This journey we are all on is one big emotional roller coaster. 

    Tomorrow will be three weeks since the surgery. I still don't have my appetite back. My stomach is just off. Is anyone else having this problem? I'm cutting back on the Advil now to try and help and have been taking probiotics for a week now. I'm forcing myself to eat because I know I need it to heal and feel better. I'm not getting anywhere near 100grams of protein. My friend just dropped me by some protein powder so I'll start to add that. That first two weeks after surgery really did a number on my system. 

  • bethq
    bethq Member Posts: 311
    edited July 2014

    ojoy, the protein powder did the trick for me. I am steadily losing weight and don't want to lose any more (never thought I'd say that). It's hard if you don't have an appetite to force yourself to eat certain things but I found the protein shakes were pretty tolerable. I added banana and peanut butter to mine.

  • Marren
    Marren Member Posts: 59
    edited July 2014

    hello ladies,

    I dropped off for a while. My kids came home from my parents after my surgery...with lice! Which I'm pretty sure my daughter got it at her friends before she went. So I'm panicking that they spread it to about 20 of my family members while trying to help my while I recover. I can't stand putting people out especially when they are helping me.

    It really is a roller coaster and I hope you ladies feeling blue will be on an up-swing soon.

    It's just depressing after a while sitting around feeling like crap, especially if things are up in the air.

    I had a good cry in the shower after getting a glimpse of myself. The docs keep saying they look great. But I have a hard time looking at stitches and incisions without cringing. I'm sure they look good under these circumstances. But they look a bit misshapen and odd to me. And they feel so numb which really bothers me,  I know it will calm down. And I'm still healing it's only been 2 weeks. Is funny my PS told me I didn't need to wear a bra unless I wanted to. While others were told to wear one 24hrs a day for weeks. Bras make the numb sensation all the more noticeable, so I haven't been. Also I wasn't told to do any exercises, I've asked. They just said not to lift any over 5lbs and not to raise my elbows over my shoulders. My pain is getting better. I think I'm fine with just Tylenol. My port is still sore since they moved it a bit. 

    Did anyone else go straight to implant?

    Sandra I think you did? But you had issues and had them taken out.?

    I got my pathology report and it was all clear. That means no rads for me!! I'm so relieved. I already did chemo and that had shrunk the tumor to nothing.

    I'm sorry wizard and purple your path reports didn't come out as good. When do you find out if chemo and rads are in the cards? I'm hoping nether, but if they are you can get through that too. 

    Margie I'm two months post chemo and I have a little bit of hair but it's so fine. I can't wait until it comes back! My beautiful blue hair, pink in the picture gone. 

    I think ojoyjoy you being hair dresser would have appreciated it. I've always messed with my hair, should have been a hair dresser too.

    Hope you all have a good night and hopefully a restful one. 

  • Marren
    Marren Member Posts: 59
    edited July 2014

    oh I forgot to tell tell you guys I got all drains out on the first post op appt. I know...a freakin' miracle.

    But as they took them out one by one(really, really weird I had no idea they were that far up there, didn't hurt though) the last one got stuck. The nurse was pulling and it just stopped. She looked a little worried and called the BS, she was in surgery. So she called my. PS and she was on her way from another office. So I awkwardly laid there and waited for about 30 minutes with half a drain hanging out. The PS came in and got it right away. Just said sometimes it gets a little kinked. Feels bizarre going over your ribs. But again it didn't hurt so don't worry. 

    Hilarious...right! Well now it is.

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited July 2014

    Marren, yes I had direct to permanent implants. I lost one due to infection. The other one was fine though. There was nothing wrong with the implant and it wasn't a healing issue. Someone in the OR or the recovery room passed along a very bad gram positive bacteria to me (gee thanks) and the infection began within hours. It destroyed soft tissue and parts of 3 muscles on my left side. 
    No more drains! Yay! The stuck drain sounds stressful. I've had drains after most of my surgeries and never had any discomfort when they were removed. The drain entry site is always red and irritated though so the nurse is careful not to pull on the drain in a way that causes pain there. My husband watched one time and he said it was fascinating but looked like an alien traveling across my chest under the skin. The drains are 10" long or more inside you!  Mine looked like flat shoelaces when they came out.

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
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  • thinkpink4ever
    thinkpink4ever Member Posts: 205
    edited July 2014

    Hang in there, bethq!  Better days are coming, I'm sure of that.  But for now, we cry if we need to...

  • Marren
    Marren Member Posts: 59
    edited July 2014

    Sandra- I just read your bio because I didn't want to make you repeat yourself probably for the umpteenth time.I was trying to understand why you've had so many surgeries. And my god woman, you have been tested. And here you are such a positive force and driving that pink bus for all of us! Thank you! And I hope this is the last surgery you will ever need. Enough is enough.

  • SullivanSF
    SullivanSF Member Posts: 13
    edited July 2014

    ojoyjoy I had appetite probs for a while too. I drank Odwalla protein shakes - theyre sugar bombs but it was better than nothing. I asked for child portions, a big ol plate of food was a turn off. My appetite has returned but I still skip a meal here and there b/c Im just not hungry. (not normal for me) Could be antibiotics too. 

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited July 2014

    oh joy - I found it a little easier to sleep with a pillow wedged behind my back.  It propped me at a 45 degree.  I'm a died sleeper and a full side was too uncomfortable!

  • bethq
    bethq Member Posts: 311
    edited July 2014

    Speaking of sleeping, does anyone wake up and feel like they are getting a bedsore on their tailbone? Everytime I try to lay in my bed this happens and I have to go down to the recliner in the living room. For some reason the pressure is taken off my bottom in the recliner.

  • kfinnigan
    kfinnigan Member Posts: 1,729
    edited July 2014

    Beth. I know my back is so sore from sleeping on my back!!

    Ally, I had different drain hole sites with this surgery, my old mastectomy drain hole sites are now the bottom portion of my reconstruction foob, my skin has been stretched.

  • ojoyjoy
    ojoyjoy Member Posts: 110
    edited July 2014

    Sullivan - It is not like me to not want to eat either. I've been doing the odwalla too. Yesterday my friend brought over a brand by the name of Columbia Gorge Organics Protein CoGo. They are more expensive but I don't care. It's USDA certified organic and has 20g soy protein per bottle. The bottle has 2 servings in it at 23g of sugar per serving. The odwalla has I think 38g of sugar per serving. She also brought me NutriBiotic raw organic (USDA Cert) rice protein powder in vanilla flavor as it is for sensitive systems. There is 11g of protein per tbs. I liked the drink so I'm going to add the protein powder to it today and give it a whirl. 

    Jbokland - I have been sleeping propped up on pillows too. Before surgery my dear fiancé went out and bought me all different size pillows. Our spare bedroom looks like a pillow bomb went off in it. Seriously, we have a queen bed in there and it is covered in pillows. I have been trying different configurations and find the the 45 degree angle works best with a small rectangle shape travel pillow at my sides to prop my arms up a bit. PS said I could sleep on my side if I wanted but there is no way that is happening....at least not yet. Last night I doubled up on my Valium and slept pretty good as it knocked me out. 5mg doesn't make me sleepy much but 10 seemed to do the trick. I woke up a couple of times but was able to fall back to sleep. It's the first night I didn't have to get out of bed and go to the couch.

    I'm so tired of my stomach feeling off, I decided to not take any Advil for today and see if that helps. I almost rather be in some pain than have this upset stomach. Yesterday I only took six Advil. I feel pretty sore this morning but I'm not sure how much of it is the fill I had yesterday verses just discomfort from the TEs in general. I'll let you all know how it goes. 

  • Wizard50
    Wizard50 Member Posts: 113
    edited July 2014

    Hi ladies, 

    I saw the oncologist earlier this week and the pathology showed I was ER-/PR- but Her2+. I also had micromets to one of my sentinel nodes so chemo is highly recommended.   They want to start next Thursday the 24th. Yikes!!! I'm more nervous about chemo than I ever was over the surgery.

    I'm in the same boat as many of you - sleeping is still uncomfortable and even though the PS gave me the ok to sleep on my side it's impossible.  I too have lots of pillows, still sleep propped up and I wake up every morning with back pain.  My appetite is slowly returning but I'm eating much smaller portions than I was before surgery.  

    The tissue expanders are my biggest nemesis lol. I'm always uncomfortable and it's not a pain that Tylenol or pain meds can take away.  Sometimes my chest feel so tight and heavy that it's hard to stand up straight.  I have numbness and extreme skin sensitivity on the underside of my left arm which is the side I had nodes removed. Surgeons have said its from the SNB, it's normal and may last awhile.  I find that wearing long sleeves seems to help releive some of the discomfort.  My PS said he won't do the TE exchange until a month after chemo ends which means I'll be stuck with the TE's even longer.  

    I'm not feeling as down as I was the first 2 weeks but still have my withdrawn quiet moments.  I'm not a cryer but let me tell you I was a crying mess for a couple of weeks.  I'm feeling better now and my heart goes out to you ladies who are still feeling blue.  Let yourself feel the emotions and it does get better.  

    Cathy

  • bethq
    bethq Member Posts: 311
    edited July 2014

    Wizard/Cathy, So sorry you will need chemo and be stuck with the evil TEs even longer. The skin sensitivity thing for me started to subside about a month out. 

  • Marren
    Marren Member Posts: 59
    edited July 2014

    wizard- I'm sorry. I'm her2+. I did the tch+p chemo regime. What have they suggested for you?

  • HomeMom
    HomeMom Member Posts: 1,198
    edited July 2014

    I can't seem to find my May surgery thread - I think they stopped posting. I wanted to know if any of you who have had the Aux Node dissection are still very numb and what your doctor says about it. I had my mx on May 6th and for a while I felt some pings and small sharp pains in the area which led me to believe the nerve endings were starting to connect. Now I feel nothing and I'm numb from a small portion of my back/back of my arm, armpit and 1/2 of my foob. The nurse said it could take up to a year for it to go away. I know someone who after 7 years still has some numbness. UGH

    I have had fills of 60-90 cc's and it is like a brick on my chest. I can sleep on one side, but not that side. My doc said to go over by about 200cc's of what I want because radiation will take 100cc's and surgery the other 100cc's. THEN I have to wait 3-4 months after rads for my breast to "cool down".  I'm wondering though if that was when I just had the lumpectomy. I don't have breast tissue over there any more.

  • Wizard50
    Wizard50 Member Posts: 113
    edited July 2014

    Thanks Marren and bethq.  My chemo regime will TCH x 6 rounds.  I really thought I had another couple of weeks before chemo so I was totally blown away when I got the call to start next week.  I'm really very very nervous about the side effects.  The first two weeks after surgery were emotionally rough and exhausting and now that I'm feeling better I don't want to go down that road again.  I'm trying so hard to stay positive but every time my phone rings or I see a dr I get bad news. 

    My BS called me this afternoon to tell me that she presented my case to the tumor board this morning.   She said they talked for a long time about my case and it was determined that I have 3 options.  Because I had one node with multiple micromets the board had differing opinions.  My choices are 1.  Go back into surgery and remove more lymph nodes but risk lymphedema.  My BS did say that one of the surgeons commented that if this was her, she would NOT go back and remove more lymph nodes.  2.  Do radiation after chemo but risk complications with the reconstruction.  3.  Avoid surgery and radiation altogether and take my chances on chemo only.  Another bomb dropped!  I did call my plastic surgeon and spoke with his nurse who is awesome.  We discussed the effects of radiation on cosmetic/reconstructive surgery and she really put my mind at ease.  I think I'm going to opt for radiation therapy after chemo but will spend the weekend doing my research.  

    bethq - next week will be one month since my BMX and I really hope the skin sensitivity starts to go away.  It gets so  uncomfortable at times, especially if I'm cold or tired.  

  • bethq
    bethq Member Posts: 311
    edited July 2014

    Wizard I know someone in the same situation and she opted for the rads and chemo. We have the same PS who does awesome work with pts post rads. It's a tough decision. Can I make a comment that may seem very inappropriate but will MAYBE make you feel a tad better. When I found I had invasive cancer but that it was too small to do the oncotest and chemo, I was actually a little dismayed. I feel like at least if I had chemo I would be doing everything possible to prevent this from returning. But because mine was a few mm too small, I guess insurance doesn't cover it. Or something like that. Anyway I would make the same decision as you, even though it is all so sudden!

  • Wizard50
    Wizard50 Member Posts: 113
    edited July 2014

    Thanks for your input Beth.  After talking with my PS I feel much better with my decision to do chemo and rads.  We discussed in detail the negative effects rads can have on reconstruction and how the potential damage can be corrected.  Your comment is not inappropriate and I understand where you're coming from.  Our main goal is to do everything within our power to beat this and feeling shut out from a treatment because insurance won't cover it sucks.  

  • Ally2345
    Ally2345 Member Posts: 320
    edited July 2014

    Wizard50-  My thoughts and prayers are with you.  So sorry to hear you are having to deal with this issue so soon.  We will be with you on the next part of this journey...you can do it!!

    Ally

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited July 2014

    wizard - come over to the TCH thread - there are a bunch of us over there who are in, or who have completed, treatment with this regimen - and some who have had rads also.  Here is the link:

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/69/topic/578284?page=597#idx_17901

  • Wizard50
    Wizard50 Member Posts: 113
    edited July 2014

    Thank you Ally for your thoughts and prayers.

    Specialk - I will definitely check out that thread.  I'm that type that the more info I have going in the better I am.  

    Cathy

  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited July 2014

    Wiz-

    My 2 cents:  Fight for your life. 

    I have met more women that opted for the easiest'road (lumpectomy vs mastectomy...not doing chemo, rads, whatever) and had reoccurrences and regretted not going at it 'full-monty' the first time.

     Remember, rads in the axilla also increase chances of lymphedema....but whadayagonnado?  Its all calculated risk.

    Rads and can cause reconstruction complications....but in the big picture, is that the most important influence on making your choice for treatment? 

  • Wizard50
    Wizard50 Member Posts: 113
    edited July 2014

    jbokland - i like your 2 cents and you are absolutely right!  

    I just had this conversation with my daughter 20 minutes ago and I told her I will do everything I need to to conquer this because I plan on being around and a part  of my daughters lives for a very very long time.

    I've decided to do rads to further reduce my chances of recurrence and if there's complications to my reconstruction then so be it.  I'll deal with that when the time comes.  

    Cathy

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 2,913
    edited July 2014

    Marren, thank you for your sweet words. We all do whatever we have to do to get through this.


     

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  • jbokland
    jbokland Member Posts: 890
    edited July 2014

    You GO Wiz!

    Great post Sandra!

  • HopeEllen
    HopeEllen Member Posts: 37
    edited July 2014

    Haven't been posting much but wanted to get on today and catch up. I, like most of you it seems, am having trouble sleeping. My TE are very uncomfortable and I just can't seem to find a comfortable position. I also started tamoxifen last week and that seems to not help either but I've had no other side effects so far.   I have found that rubbing arnica gel on my chest muscles and bruises helps with the discomfort. 

    wizard50, we had surgery on the same day so I've tried to keep up with you and I know you'll make the right choice about your treatment. We are all fighters and are here to support you through this journey. 

    Sandra, I love your encouraging posts. You are truly an inspiration. 

  • linda505
    linda505 Member Posts: 847
    edited July 2014

    Just  a little humor to help with the blues 

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