I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange
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IllinoisLady - LOL -
OK ok okokokok.... I didn't mean that health insurance as part of the benefit plan at my place of employment wasn't part of my earnings in a broad sense - however, it wasn't (strictly speaking) part of my monetary earnings. HOWEVER, I completely forgot that now I am paying my own insurance, that it is tax deductible. AND I had forgotten that the part of my insurance that I paid WHEN employed came out of pre-tax dollars.
And I definitely, MOST definitely, agree that my employer has no business dictating ANY portion of my medical choices. I just didn't (and still don't) view benefits as "quite" the same as wages. For example, at my place of employment, The portion of the health insurance package they paid was approximately $1200/month. If I opted to not have insurance (I know this only because a friend of mine did so), I would not have received a $1200 a month pay increase. So, yes. Health insurance is definitely a part of the wage/benefits package. No, it is definitely NOT something an employer provides out of the goodness of his/her heart.
The truth is, I am hoping that this Hobby Lobby debacle ends up unbuckling employment and health care - and moves us to a single payer system.
Blue, in regards to your Strange part Deux question... I like the idea of waiting 'til there's a nice round 55,000 posts and then starting anew.
I miss SunnyFlowers. Mods, can you not find it in your hearts to bring her back?
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Blue - Your garden is lovely. How do you do it? My garden is full of weeds now. I need help!
I think the 55,000 and then deux is a good idea.
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Blue - your garden is beautiful - and I love the dogs rolling in the grass! Part Deux is fine with me.
S.
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Mods....I'm beseeching you as well. We are all a miserable --- Sunny is so much of who we are. Would you consider it please.
Jackie
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We miss Sunny!!!!!!!!!!
My garden is well maintained by Ray. I tell him what and how and he does. I come from farmer stock so I guess I was born with a green thumb. My oldest daughter is the same.
No matter how I'm feeling, my garden always makes me smile!
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Part deux is fine with me, too.
Here is a teatime chuckle ... This wins the prize for the best caption of this picture:
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Another interesting thing (if a couple of months old) from Rolling Stone.
Rolling Stone
Six Studies That Show Everything Republicans Believe is Wrong
It's time for the right wing to stop lying about the minimum wage, taxes, global warming and more
By Sean McElwee
April 23, 2014
The great 20th-century economist John Maynard Keynes has been widely quoted as saying, "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" Sadly, in their quest to concentrate economic and political power in the hands of the wealthiest members of society, today's Republicans have held the opposite position – as the evidence has piled up against them, they continue spreading the same myths. Here are six simple facts about the economy that Republicans just can't seem to accept:
1. The Minimum Wage Doesn't Kill Jobs.
The Republican story on the minimum wage takes the inordinately complex interactions of the market and makes them absurdly simple. Raise the price of labor through a minimum wage, they claim, and employers will hire fewer workers. But that's not how it works. In the early Nineties, David Card and Alan Krueger found "no evidence that the rise in New Jersey's minimum wage reduced employment at fast-food restaurants in the state." Since then, international, national and state-level studies have replicated these findings – most recently in a study by three Berkeley economists. Catherine Ruetschlin, a policy analyst at Demos, has argued that a higher minimum wage would actually "boost the national economy" by giving workers more money to spend on goods and services. The most comprehensive meta-study of the minimum wage examined 64 studies and found "little or no evidence" that a higher minimum wage reduces employment. There is however, evidence that a higher minimum wage lifts people out of poverty. Raise away!
2. The Stimulus Created Millions of Jobs.
In the aftermath of the 2007 recession, President Obama invested in a massive stimulus. The Republican belief that markets are always good and government is always bad led them to argue that diverting resources to the public sector this way would have disastrous results. They were wrong: The stimulus worked, with the most reliable studies finding that it created millions of jobs. The fact that government stimulus works – long denied by Republicans (at least, when Democrats are in office) – is a consensus among economists, with only 4 percent arguing that unemployment would have been lower without the stimulus and only 12 percent arguing that the costs outweigh the benefits.
3. Taxing The Rich Doesn't Hurt Economic Growth.
Republicans believe that the wealthy are the vehicles of economic growth. Starting with Ronald Reagan in the 1980s, they tried cutting taxes on the rich in order to unleash latent economic potential. But even the relatively conservative Martin Feldstein has acknowledged that investment is driven by demand, not supply; if there are viable investments to be made, they will be made regardless of tax rates, and if there are no investments to be made, cutting taxes is merely pushing on a string. Thomas Piketty and Emmanuel Saez, two of the eminent economists of inequality, find no correlation between marginal tax rates and economic growth.
In fact, what hurts economic growth most isn't high taxes – it's inequality. Two recent IMF papers confirm what Keynesian economists like Joseph Stiglitz have long argued: Inequality reduces the incomes of the middle class, and therefore demand, which in turn stunts growth. To understand why, imagine running a car dealership. Would you prefer if 1 person in your time owned 99% of the wealth and the rest of the population had nothing, or if wealth was distributed more equally, so that more people could purchase your cars?
Every other country in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development has far lower levels of inequality than the United States. Since there are no economic benefits of inequality, why hasn't the right conceded the argument? Because it's based on class interest, not empirical evidence.
4. Global Warming is Caused by Humans.
Even as global warming is linked to more and more extreme weather events, more than 56 percent of Republicans in the current congress deny man-made global warming. In fact, the infamous Lutz memo shows that Republicans have actually created a concerted campaign to undermine the science of global warming. In the leaked memo, Frank Lutz, a Republican consultant, argues that, "The scientific debate is closing [against us> but not yet closed. There is still a window of opportunity to challenge the science."
In truth, the science of global warming is not up for debate. James Powell finds that over a one year period, 2,258 articles on global warming were published by 9,136 authors. Of those, only one, from the Herald of the Russian Academy of Sciences, rejected man-made global warming. That one article was likely motivated by the Russian government's interest in exploiting arctic shale. Another, even more comprehensive study, examining 11,944 studies over a 10-year period, finds that 97 percent of scientists accepted the scientific consensus that man-made global warming is occurring.
This is not an abstract academic debate. The effects of climate change will be devastating, and poor countries will be hurt the worst. We've already seen the results. Studies have linked global warming to Hurricane Sandy, droughts and other extreme weather events. More importantly, doing nothing will end up being far more expensive than acting now. One study suggests it could wipe out 3.2% of global GDP annually.
5. The Affordable Care Act is Working
President Obama's centrist healthcare bill was informed by federalism (delegating power to the states) and proven technocratic reforms (like a board to help doctors discern which treatments would be most cost-effective). Republicans, undeterred, decried it as Soviet-style communism based on "death panels" – never mind the fact that the old system, which rationed care based on income, is the one that left tens of thousands of uninsured people to die.
From the beginning, Republicans have predicted disastrous consequences or Obamacare, none of which came true. They predicted that the ACA would add to the deficit; in fact, it will reduce the deficit. They claimed the exchanges would fail to attract the uninsured; they met their targets. They said only old people would sign up; the young came out in the same rates as in Massachusetts. They predicted the ACA would drive up healthcare costs; in fact it is likely holding cost inflation down, although it's still hard to discern how much of the slowdown was due to the recession. In total, the ACA will ensure that 26 million people have insurance in 2024 who would have been uninsured otherwise.
It's worth noting that every time the CBO estimates how much Obamacare will cost, the number gets lower. Odd how we've never heard Republicans say that.
6. Rich people are no better than the rest of us.
Politicians on the right like to pretend that having money is a sign of hard work and morality – and that not having money is a sign of laziness. This story is contradicted by human experience and many religious traditions (Jesus tells a graphic story about a rich man who refused to help the poor burning in hell). But it's also contradicted by the facts – more and more rich people are getting their money through inheritances, and science shows that they are no more benevolent than others.
More and more, the wealthy in America are second or third generation. For instance, the Walton family, heirs to the Walmart fortune, own more wealth than the poorest 40 million Americans. Thomas Philippon and Ariell Reshef have found that 30 to 50 percent of the wage difference between the financial sector and the rest of the private sector was due to unearned "rent," or money they gained through manipulating markets. Josh Bivens and Larry Mishel found the same thing for CEOs – their increased pay hasn't been correlated to performance.
If rich people haven't really earned their money, are they at least doing any good with it? Studies find that the wealthy actually give less to charity as a proportion of their income than middle-class Americans, even though they can afford more. Worse, they use their supposed philanthropy to avoid taxes and finance pet projects. Research by Paul Piff finds that the wealthy are far more likely to exhibit narcissistic tendencies. "The rich are way more likely to prioritize their own self-interests above the interests of other people," Piff recently told New York magazine. "It makes them more likely to exhibit characteristics that we would stereotypically associate with, say, assholes."
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I saw a news piece the other night, forget who or what station, but wondering why the democrats aren't bragging a bit more about what we have accomplished in light of being blocked so much by the repubs. I agree ... Why aren't the democrats, especially those running for office, talking about the positive changes since Obama took office? The republicans sure would be out there bragging if they had accomplished what we have!
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Hell, GatorGal - the Republicans are out there bragging about all of the things they PREVENTED us from doing!
I agree - the Democrats have a terrible problem with trumpeting our achievements. Part of it is that we're too busy doing things to want to take the time to brag about them, but I think the biggest part of it is that we expect people to be rational and thoughtful and understand what it is we have accomplished. It is seen as impolite and unseemly to brag. We need to be a lot less polite and a lot louder!
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Hey Blue .... I love your garden, especially that it's small and you can keep it looking pretty all the time! Lila and Wendel are so funny. Tank was rolling around in the grass on our walk today. ackkkk! Just hope he didn't pick up any ticks. Found another one on my butt last night. Just hate those damn things. They leave big welts on me for months.Libby ... The last picture you posted is hilarious!
Brigadoon ... Is the steroid part of your treatment? I've only had steroid allergy shots before ... and it did give me a bunch of energy too.
Blue ... It's up to you guys what you want to do about starting a new thread. I kind've like things the way they are now.
hugs,
Bren
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But Libby, since Obama can't so much as move without criticism, it's no wonder some are captioning that picture as follows. He's an evil SOB!
"Obama laughing about little children being raped and exploited by
extremely bad people while Perry sits across the table
scowling."Doesn't matter that there are other people at the table laughing too.
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Thanks Bren, but I wouldn't mind an acre of land with a barn on it. Chickens, a horse and a cow. And a Veggy garden!
P.S. Careful with those ticks.
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Let loose Jim, let loose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well, Blue, since the same people who might caption the picture in a negative way toward the President are also the same people who think those same little kids should die in the desert or stay in their home countries to be tortured and murdered by drug gangs, I really can't say I give a rat's ass what they say. I don't imagine any of us here do.
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RetiredLibby - The print is small so when I first read it I thought the woman said "Well bless your little pea pecker" My eyes, my eyes are evil.
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Hahahahahahahaaaaa, BB - I thought that too when I first saw it on FB! That fits, too .... Perry has a lot of issues, I'm sure!
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RetiredLibby - I am glad I am not alone on this limb!
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This is an interesting article. IT is a very sad situation and Obama again has to clean up the mess. I can read you know!
http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/2014/...
It's always Obama's fault!
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VICTORY!!
Canada's Supreme Court ruled Friday that Wal-Mart must compensate
former workers at a Quebec store that was closed after they voted to
become the first Wal-Mart store in North America to unionize.Don't phuque with the French!
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I hate Walmart and will not shop there. So glad that Canada didn't let them get away with screwing the workers there. -
True Blood, The Final Season......I'm gonna miss them!
But then "The Newsroom" starts! Just love HBO!
P.S. Does 2008 come before 2012?
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/08/us/immigrant-sur...
Goodnight all!
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Thanks Mods for giving me a hand and helping me out with my graphics. Very much appreciated.
Jackie
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You're welcome. Posting pictures can be confusing. The Mods
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