I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

Lovely pics E.   I did notice that the horse got 2 pics and the beautiful daughter only got one.  That is the true sign of a horse woman!

Alexandria - their religion is being forced on us in the form of Halal approved food - can you believe a chocolate manufacturer was forced to pay to be halal certified? Companies have to pay to get the certification - if their population is so small here why are we being forced to comply with facets of their religion.

I am a non believer - I have no faith per se. All religions have faults, I know that.

Suzieq, did you try reading the article? Really not scary at all, in fact it was quite nice. I have read that one of the major differences in liberals and conservatives is that conservatives have a true fear of those different from themselves. Anyway here's a link to the written article that goes with the picture you linked:

Muslims in Australia celebrate the end of Ramadan with Eid festival

Getting our first significant fire of the season under red flag warnings.  Smoke shrouding the mountain  (fire north of me about 10 miles).  This is going to be a bad year after 3 years of drought and the worst drought in recorded history in California.  (Updated - fire supressed!)

E- beautiful daughter.  Love horsey pictures too.  How are you doing?

Yes Pip - not just Cadbury, all sorts of foods and products that have no relation to meat what so ever - The Body Shop is halal certified - body creams, cleansers??? It's out of control..

Suzie, but Cadbury was using pork product in their chocolate but saying it was halal certified.  They lied. People were angered by that.  

I can find nothing to say that any company has been forced to produce halal food.  I have seen blogs saying that Muslims torture their food before slaughter as well. This is NOT Muslim law either.  And blogs are NOT reliable sources.  

i was told that if a product is certified kosher then it is also certified halal. Is that accurate? Whether it is or not, it makes sense that any business would want to have as broad appeal as possible... Therefore if a product can be certified as halal, kosher, vegan, non-gmo or whatever, that the company producing said product would certify it appropriately and so increase their sales prospects.

Orthodox Jews can't eat food that isn't certified kosher by a rabbi, and the food manufacturer has to pay for the rabbi to inspect the production process. A lot of food manufacturers choose to do so here in the US.  The small U with a circle or the K in a triangle means it's kosher.  Go look at Coke, many crackers and cookies, Ben and Jerry's ice cream. I suspect Jews are an even smaller portion of the population than Muslims.  The food manufacturers do it because they want the business of Orthodox Jews.

So I guess we're trying to take over the world, too, just like the Muslims - and just like Hitler said.

oh come on Suzie.  Any certification ALWAYS must be paid for.  It's not ridiculous, it's the cost of doing business.  If you have a product that you want certified as meeting a specific set of criteria, it must be inspected to CERTIFY that those criteria are indeed being met.  Of course that must be paid for.

Something is not adding up here....

No, halal and kosher are not the same, although they come from the same Abrahamic tradition.  Here is a good explanation:  http://isaiowa.org/Content/Halal-Information/Halal-Education/Why-Kosher-is-not-Halal.aspx

Halal and Kosher are dietary laws followed by religious people.  If businesses choose to process their food in such a way to appeal to the broadest consumer base, SO EFFING WHAT?  It's called BUSINESS.  So the "let's hate everyone not like us" police are going to make a stink?  Really, get over it. 

Kosher and halal have been around for thousands of years.  They're not going away.  Vegans want their food to be certified to contain no meat.  People who want organic food want it to be certified in a meaningful way.  So what.  People with food allergies what to be sure that their food doesn't contain something that could KILL them.  It's just like everything else that people don't like - IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, DON'T EAT IT.  IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT, DON'T DO IT.  IF YOU DON'T WANT TO WEAR IT, DON'T WEAR IT. 

Someone eating their food doesn't take away your food.  It just makes you look ridiculous when you complain.

ETA - Once again, in tiny words.  Manufacturers certify their food kosher or halal to appeal to people who keep kosher or halal.  (Just like they certify their food organic or vegan.)  IT IS A BUSINESS DECISION ON THE PART OF THE MANUFACTURER AND BUILT INTO THE COST OF THE PRODUCT.  If the manufacturer chooses not to do so, it chooses not to do so.  IT IS A BUSINESS DECISION.  IT IS NOT YOUR DECISION BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE MUSLIMS OR JEWS.  If you don't like the fact that a product is certified kosher or halal - DON'T EAT IT.

I fail to see how ANYTHING can justify complaining about a manufacturer's decision to pay for halal or kosher certification.  It is a business decision.  It doesn't impact public health or service to the public (i.e., wedding cakes for same-sex couples, that stupid non-controversy of the moment in Tealibanistan).  It is a decision manufacturers make, pay for, and build into the cost of the product so they can appeal to the widest base of consumers.  You know ... like a business.

I see the haters have moved on from their current hate target....atleast it has been quiet for awhile, well, til the next time they want to accuse Obama of something bad that he did.  What bothers me is they hate for awhile with their made up or silly nonesense crap, then their complaints are found to be unsubstantiated, stupid, unpatriotic, whatever, then they just button up.  Damage done and no accountability.

Please do not let this certification thing go.  We need to understand if this is a REAL complaint.

Disgusting.

Warning - there is a FB page in Australia, too.  https://www.facebook.com/BH.Australia Boycott Halal in Australia.  This crap never ends, does it?