June 2014 Surgery Sisters
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Hi sjbaker - Welcome! I am having my lumpectomy tomorrow. I've been having good and bad days as well, but I am actually really looking forward to getting this lump outta me. I've had a 3 other surgeries (mostly elective) over the past 2 years, so I know what to expect and am not really nervous about the procedure luckily. My emotions are crazy though. So many people have been so kind and supportive to me that I keep breaking into tears. I can't figure out if I'm surprised that people are actually so caring, or suprised that so many people actually care about ME. Good luck next week!
Hugs,
Kelly
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Hello all, I'm back from surgery yesterday. I thought the part after surgery was going to be happy with all the drugs but recovery short-term was a little difficult. I woke up rolling into recovery room 1 where i was in pain and kinda felt paralyzed or i couldn't speak. I kept asking for drugs, got some but didn't really take effect. Was then rolled into recovery room 2 where the drugs kicked in but it was so noisy couldn't rest. I kept thinking that everybody is tellling me surgery is a piece of cake in comparison of things to come. oh boy!!Felt much better when I got home. Today I have just been resting and watching tv. My back arm is starting to feel numb.
I didn't have any drains put in. What does that mean?
Speedy recoveries to the next June sisters. I cannot express my gratitude for you sisters and for this site that helps me out so much when I feel like jumping over a bridge.
hugs to everybody!
dd
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Hi! I hope those ladies who have had surgery are all doing well. Please post when you gals are up to it! Good luck to the gal who is having a lumpectomy tomorrow. I hope the procedure goes well and the pathology is clean. Prayers are coming your way!
I have a question for the ladies who have had the mastectomy. After you have had(1st night after the actual surgery), is it difficult to move your arms? Is it very difficult to get out of bed and goto the bathroom? What about drinking, is it difficult to reach for things? Are you constantly buzzing the nurses for help to do simple tasks?
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The motor is still running on the Pink Bus. We'll need it the morning for kpmacmill who is having her lumpectomy. Good luck! Let us hear from you when you are able.
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Gotta keep that Pink Bus rolling! Best wishes to kpmacmill - we pray that all goes well with your surgery tomorrow.
I've had bubble guts, loosey goosey bowels all day today and couldn't stay out of the bathroom. There's no such thing as TMI on the discussion boards, right? Lol!!! Gotta laugh during this ordeal, don't we? I think it's my nerves that are in knots. So can I expect to go from loose bowels to "pain medicine induced" constipation? Talk about from one extreme to the other! What a journey this is....but we gotta keep on keeping on, y'all...
One love,
tp4ever
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Worryocd, yes you are going to have a hard time the next day and for a week or two afterwards with your arms. You don't really understand how much you use your arms (and pecs) until you try to pick something up or reach for something. The trick, of course, is putting everything you will need quite close to you...not on a bedside table that you can't reach. It does get better little by little and you will be tempted to do more than you should. Please believe me...don't! You will be sorry.
Dancingdiva, women who've had lymph nodes taken out with a separate incision in the armpit complain about numbness in the same area you describe. It may last a while and may go further down your arm. I didn't have it but hopefully someone else will jump in here who has personal experience with ALND. Also, have others of you who had a lumpectomy had drains?
Jbdayton, carpal tunnel is so painful! I feel for you. I had it in both wrists and tried all kinds of treatments to no avail. What finally worked was wearing a splint at night so I couldn't bend my wrist. Within a week or so it was nearly gone. The bone pain must be pretty intense too. OUCH. So sorry.
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Hello all,
I have been looking online for the little heart shaped pillows to buy. I've heard a few of the sisters have found them very useful after surgery. I have not been able to find them
Does anyone have a link they can share?
Thanks,
Ojoyjoy
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kpmacmill - best wishes for a great surgery and speedy recovery
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Please add me to the surgery list: lynnie-p - June 16 double mastectomy TEs no chemo or rads hopefuly, stage O
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Great recovery so far...hope I am like that in a few weeks, which is my expectation. What are some tips that made your revovery easy ish?
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ojoyjoy, I saw some online by putting "mastectomy pillow" in google. Here is a link to one on amazon. It seems pricey for a little heart shaped pillow. I'd mail you mine but I think I'll need them for my upcoming exchange surgery. I was given the pillows from a friend of my mom's that makes them for Kaiser patients in San Diego. Maybe you have a similar organization near you?
http://www.amazon.com/BFFL-Co-Axillapilla®/dp/B008R0OEHK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1401852821&sr=8-1&keywords=mastectomy+pillow
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Juliecc- thanks for the search tip. I never thought to type in mastectomy pillows, duh. You are so sweet to offer me yours. I agree, it's best to hold on to them until you know you're done with all surgeries. I'm going to order me some tonight. They are the last thing I need to purchase on my surgery list. I pray my surgery/recovery goes as smooth as yours has. Your posts have been insightful and encouraging to me
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Worryocd...
Yes, it will be difficult to move your arms. I notice you are having TEs, so your PS will be cutting and lifting your chest muscles...your pectorals help your arm movements like lifting and rotation. So you will be weakened. Also, it is important for the first while to let your body heal, internally as well as externally. Sudden or certain movements can strain internal stitches, etc. Your PS should let you know of any restrictions or limitations, like pushing or pulling heavy doors, etc.
At the same time, you do not want to get frozen shoulder. You should discuss with your PS when you can start some arm and shoulder mobility exercises (basically various stretches).
In my experience, I was not constantly buzzing the nurses. I slept a lot for the first few hours. I needed a bit of help out of bed the first couple times as the side gate was left up, I needed my leg compression sleeves hooked, and I needed my IV cart unplugged and oxygen removed. But, I was shuffling down the hallway to use bathroom on my own a couple hours out of recovery. I never had a catheter and did not want to use a bedpan. That night I was making patrols down the hallways in my ward and getting up to pee a lot from all the IV fluids, all on my own (by this time leg sleeves were off and so was oxygen)
In the hospital I just made sure I had a lidded cup with a straw on the rolling table right next to my bed. With slow and deliberate movements I could reach it and other things on my table (lozenges, Chapstick, etc).
I was in hospital for about 24 hours and then it was a 2.5 hour drive home. My husband had to help me do up my seatbelt, open heavy doors for me at rest stops on way etc. I am sure I looked quite the sight shuffling into Tim Hortons with PJ pants and my drain belt adding some bulk under my shirt! We had to stop a lot, again from all the fluids!
I had help at home, but things you need should be in reach. You should not be reaching over your head or out to side, or lifting more than 5 lbs, for a bit. I found using small or paper plates a good idea, as well as plastic spill proof tumblers with straws for liquids as they were lighter than glasses and easy to drink from. I needed help washing my hair until my drains were out (at one week). If your microwave is high, move it down to counter height before surgery. I also had to shove mine to back of counter so there was a counter force when I pressed on the button to open it. Set up a box or supplies by your bed or recliner, like medications, snacks, Chapstick, charger, phone/tablet, books. Get button up shirts, or stretch scoop or v neck shirts that you can step into and pull up.
It was only temporary and things got better each day. I was back to all routine movements, many of my activities, walking, cardio, in first 2-3 weeks and now am even some weight training (I still need to limit how much I lift though for another few days, but I am allowed to lift up to 10 lbs now). I no longer look at a door and think "ugh, why did they have to install such a heavy door!". And another pro...it forced me to clean put my purse and commit to carrying a lot less stuff. I used to pack around enough to survive in the woods for at least a long weekend!
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Good luck today KP!
I go to nuclear at 130 for my four injections.
I had heard it was a good idea to wax armpits prior to surgery so I did yesterday for the first time. NEVER AGAIN. Don't know if I have PTSD from all of the biopsies/procedures thus far but it was a horrible experience that left me drenched in sweat and almost in tears. Now I worry since I am so raw if I will develop a post op infection there, although I did check with my surgeon's office prior to going.
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bethq
Be aware you will pee st. patricks day green after the injections!
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Thank you Sandra and Divecat for the helpful responses. I am starting to dream of surgery and feel the anxiety. I keep re-reading posts which is helpful to me! Thanks to all who share!
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sandra4611...jumping in on lumpectomy question...I had mine jan. 3 2014...axilla node dissection...no drains...did well...I guess my ignorance helped me as I was out and about the next day using my arm, tending my fire pit with my niece and sisters yelling at me to sit down! Lol...I was never told to do any exercises, and was never told about the chording or " web" that you get...I think moving around helped me with range of motion? My friends also showed me some exercises...only now, am I going to go for PT since I asked my RO about it...my general surgeon never mentioned pt.after my surgery....just when I asked about the "web"...she said if it bothers you we can set it up...so I asked for pt the other day...I don't have much webbing but sometimes when it comes, I get real numb under arm, and back of arm and it travels down...normally, now the back of my arm remains numb, down to my elbow...not sure if it goes away...I will learn more when I go to pt...Rosie
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Welcome to our group Lynnie_p. BCO.org has so many good threads with tips so be sure to check the All Topics button for lots of ideas. You can ask any questions here too and we'll try to help.
Ojoy, I got my heart shaped pillows from two places. One was the hospital - the women's auxillary makes them not just for breast cancer patients, but for heart surgery patients too. I found them too hard though. The best ones came to me free from The American Cancer Society. Call them! You fill out a form, they check with your doctor to make sure you really are a cancer patient, then someone calls you to ask what size soft surgical bra you want. They send you two for free! They included two perfectly sized and perfectly soft heart shaped pillow, made by one of the local churches. They also have volunteers who've been through the same thing you are and can be good resources. They have lots of free programs including paying for gas for you to go back and forth to appointments, paying for hotels if you have to travel out of town, and even a free service to take you to the hospital or appointments and pick you up afterward. You don't have to have one in your city...just Google American Cancer Society and find out the closest one. Call them and get the ball rolling.
Also you can make your pillows. It's not in the least bit hard. You don't have to have a sewing machine. Sew by hand or they even make fabric glue that would work fine! Use scrap fabric & it doesn't have to be the same fabric on the front and back. If you are using one larger piece of fabric, lay it out flat and fold the left side over the right side. The tops (faces) of both sides should be touching. If you are using two separate pieces of fabric, lay one on top of the other - the bottom one should be face up and the top one face down.
Draw an 11 x 11 inch heart shape to allow for the stitching or glueing and stuffing so you'll have a finished 10.5" pillow. I'm measuring mine right now. Height from point at the bottom to "dip" of the heart is 8.5". Laying the ruler diagonal from the bottom point to the top right of the heart 10.5". The widest part of the heart is about 2.5 inches below the "dip" and measures 10.5 inches across.
If you sew, leave the faces together and stitch around, leaving a two or three inch open. Turn inside out, stuff, and stitch close the opening. If you are using glue, have the two pieces laying face up and flat. Apply glue in a thin line around the faces of the hearts, leaving a two or three inch space without glue in the same place on both pieces. Put the faces of the two hearts together so the glue can set around the edges. Once it's dry, turn it face out, stuff, and close the opening.
Stuff it with soft loose foam pieces so the pillow is no more than 2.5 inches deep. It's important that it is NOT firm and not filled to capacity. The depth is so important so stick to the 2.5 inches even though you think it doesn't fill the heart up. You are right. It doesn't but that's what you want. Soft and flexible.The ones I thought were too big and too firm are 13.5" wide, 3.5 inches deep when stuffed, and not soft enough so you can see that size and softness matters a lot.
Worry and Rosieride, here is a link to an excellent video teaching exercises after breast surgery. You have fewer restrictions after lumpectomy if your pecs were not cut, but you still have to take it easy. http://breastcancerrehabilitation.com/Rehabilitation.html
Here's another link to info on cording, webbing, and other problems after lymph node removal. It's from an excellent lymphedema website called Speak Up, Speak Out. http://www.stepup-speakout.org/Cording_and_Axillary_Web_Syndrome.htm This can happen no matter what kind of surgery you have.
Bethq, OUCH. I bet you have lots of red bumps and soreness. Can you use Bacitracin on it today to try to heal it the best you can? That's what my PS had me use on my incisions the first couple of days, so it may help you. For the rest of you waiting for your surgeries, shave several days before so you no longer have any microscopic cuts to let in germs.
To practice for what T-Rex short arm syndrome is going to be after mastectomy, put your arms by your sides and leave everything down to your elbows "glued" to your side. Now move the rest of your arms. T-rex arms! You can't raise your arms above your shoulders for a week or longer, so this is going to be your range of motion. Anything out of reach at this range, especially if it is heavier than a half filled plastic mug of water, will do you no good after surgery.
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thinkpink4ever, bethq, slappy-squirrel - good luck tomorrow, best wishes!!!! I'm right behind you on Friday.
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It's time for the Pink Bus again. Tomorrow Thinkpink4ever will have a BMX and a DIEP procedure. Bethq is also having a BMX with TE's. Slappy-squirrel will have her BMX tomorrow as well.
Please don't click on the button in the photo below. I have it in my files because it's a great Pink Bus picture. All aboard!
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kpmacmill ... Hope you are recovering well, you are in my thoughts today. I had a lumpectomy April 1st and it's 8 weeks now. Praying for good pathology report.
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The Moderators just posted a long article on Pain in Cancer Patients. I've just read it and it's excellent at explaining what is going on in your body and why some things work and others don't. Go down past the blue links to the actual medical articles to the overviews. Well worth it. http://www.breastcancer.org/research-news/asco-publishes-articles-on-pain
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I am sitting up. I am in more pain in the hip with this surgery than the tummy tissues last time.
Nurses are saying go home tomorrow but doc is more conservative.
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Oh Bethq, that's a horrible sounding experience. I'm glad you posted that because tonight I was going to salon and was going to ask to have that done too. I think I will stick with a fresh shave on Tuesday night.
Best wishes to speedy recovery for KPmacmill.
Good luck tomorrow all June 5th ladies.
Days are flying by now. We will be all on the other side before we know it.
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Gotta be at the hospital at 6:45AM tomorrow. Getting nervous!
Shirley
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Another Monday surgery patient checking in!
I was home Tuesday afternoon, about 24 hours after surgery (bilateral mastectomy), all bandaged up with two drains and a post-surgery camisole. My dear sweet husband's contribution to drain maintenance is keeping the log. Who knew a tough-as-nails retired Marine (Purple Heart combat vet to boot) would be so squeamish about his wife's bloody discharge? I'm really hoping I'll be getting these out on Monday when I see my surgeon's nurse. He'll feel so much better then.
Sleeping propped up in bed is a bit challenging in satin pajamas. Despite what I thought was clever positioning of pillows, I kept slipping down and by morning wasn't as vertical as I'd hoped. I may go back to wearing my old cotton PJs. As my daughter would tease, "First World problems, eh?"
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thank you sandra4611! I put those links in my reading list! Rosie
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Dear Linda
Thank you so much for your words of encouragement, as the days goes by I have made piece with it all. I have HER2 +++ BC stage IIIB and yes he said I would need Herceptin for 1 year, we are going to start Herceptin together with the radiation around 4 weeks after the surgery. I need 30 radiation sessions after surgery. Still a LONG way to go, but I am super positive that all will be good!
I will remember the T-Rex arms! My husband said he is going to get a strap and strap my arms to my body so I can not use them, I am a super busy body and always talking with my arms ( sometimes I look like a windmill......) so I need some restriction as I really don´t want any complications! Already got the recliner, pillows, pj´s, just need to buy the surgical bra´s and think I will be good, I do suffer from Neuropathy in my forearms and hands after the chemo (can´t even hold a mug or glass), so maybe I should just play incompetent like a baby and let everybody else do everything! Wow sounds like a true vacation!!
Thank you so so much for everybody´s encouragement this blog is a true inspiration from all the ladies and a true blessing to know you are not alone in this!
Have a superb day!
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Hi Ladies,
Been home from the hospital about an hour. Everything went well. Not too much pain yet, but I can tell the underarm incision is going to be the worst. They gave me a bunch of drugs and a scopolamine patch for nausea, so haven't felt sick yet - but I did just take a vicodin, so we will see.
Good luck to Thinkpink4ever, Bethq and Slappy-squirrel tomorrow! We'll all get through this!!
Hugs,
Kelly
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