no hormonals poll

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maria26
maria26 Member Posts: 44

I apologise if this has been done already but are there any threads from ladies who did not take or had to stop the hormonals.

If anyone would like to tell their story it would help ladies like myself make a decision.

If anyone has done 5 years no ned with als etc please post

Maria

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  • Raisa
    Raisa Member Posts: 14
    edited May 2014

    Hi Maria,

    I am one of these who took Anastrazole for 16 months and I was becoming literally and quickly disabled with all these joint, muscle, bone pains, started losing my hair again - thinning, could not sleep, and became walking "zombie", falling asleep at the wheel, gained weight, hot flashes, could not exercise and was so miserable and depressed. I decided to NOT TO TAKE Anastrazole anymore. My oncologist was OK with that. I refused to take Tamoxifen, because it has such a horrible and risky SE like thrombosis and uterine and ovarian cancers, and I tried to switch to Aromasin, however from that med my hands were so much in arthritic pain, I couldn't even write or wash my hands without pain. I literally felt like 80 years old, I am turning 53 this year.

    I am almost 2 weeks off the Anastrazole, and I lost 5 lbs. in first week, I still have lost of pains and tired easily, not sleeping well and still have hot flashes, however my husband noticed that I have more energy and don't complain much about pains, also for some reason I don't think about cancer much anymore, I think that pill was sort of reminder for me that I had a cancer.

    I am taking a risk of reoccurrence, but I am surgically menopausal, so don't have tons of estrogen in my body. I would like to have a quality of life, and if I don't live long, so be it.  I also try to find alternative, herbal and untraditional methods to heal detoxify, eat right.

    Good luck with your decision! If I would be 10 years older I would never even tried this adjuvant therapy, after surgery, chemo and radiation with stage 1, no nodes involved, I think was enough for me to prevent reocurrence...

    Raisa

  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited May 2014

    Maria - tough question that you will discover has women with strong opinions on both sides of the fence. For me I take Tamoxifen. Don't want to but frankly am afraid not to. It is an additional insurance policy to help prevent a recurrence and my ONC would not endorse not taking anything. Of course it's my decision and my life - not her's but I couldn't handle NOT taking something and down the road the BC comes back. To be fair the SEs are def not fun but they are manageable. Others have debilitating SEs from the drug so their experiences in some cases mean a lousy quality of life. Mine aren't so drastic and I might react differently if they did. The call is yours, just don't second guess yourself or look back and say what if. Good luck. Diane 

  • Blessings2011
    Blessings2011 Member Posts: 4,276
    edited May 2014

    A timely question, maria26...

    I have just made the decision to quit Femara. I took Arimidex for six months with very few problems, then the SEs hit fast and they hit hard. I stuck it out for a year, then went to see my MO. At that point the SEs had become life-threatening, and I was using a walker due to the joint pain.

    She was very upset that I hadn't come to see her earlier; she said we could have changed drugs. As it was, I got a two month drug holiday, and ALL the SEs went away. Then she gave me Femara.

    Again, the first six months were a breeze, but now the SEs are back, plus I have new, even more debilitating ones.

    After BMX (Stage I, no chemo, no rads, no nodal involvement) the MO did tell me that if it turned out that I was one of those women who could not tolerate AIs, that she would feel comfortable taking me off all drugs. I am now at that point.

    I have a husband who is seriously ill. I need to have quality of life NOW so that we can enjoy the retirement we had planned for ourselves, for however long we have.

    But I remain a BIG advocate for women who need AIs to at least give them a try... for as long as they can, and if one doesn't work, try another one!!!

  • ej01
    ej01 Member Posts: 155
    edited May 2014

    I did not take tamox although it was recommended.   My Dx was almost 3 years ago.   Last month my mammo had a suspicious area and I had a biopsy last week.  During the wait time between mamo and biopsy result I had pretty much decided that if the biopsy showed any more ER+ I would try Tamox next time, but I still did not regret my initial decision to decline.    ( My suspicious area turned out to be B9.)    I read the book by Dr Lee "What your doctor may not tell you about breast cancer" and that really helped me make my decision to try to lower my estrogen naturally (diet and exercise changes) instead of with drugs.    

    My cancer was DCIS.  I am not sure I would have declined hormone therapy if it was invasive cancer.

  • maria26
    maria26 Member Posts: 44
    edited May 2014

    Hi ladies,

    Thank you all for your input.  I have tried the arimidex almost a year now but stopped two days ago as I felt so very very ill.  If it was achy joints I would persevere but I have palpitations, breathing  problems, pain between spine shoulder blades, reflux,  nausea severe fatigue, anxiety etc. Etc.  I will see how  it goes and then discuss aromasin or tamox.  With my dr.

    Unfortunately, the onc does not see you again after rads unless you beg your g.p. to refer you all over again.  So messages are just passed from myself to her secretary and back.

    I badly want to stay on arimidex as I worry about recurrence.  I was stage 1 grade 2 idc node neg. Er pr pos. 10mm tumour with  no vascular invasion but we all know you cannot be confidenct with b.c. no mattered what your pathology says.  I had lumpectomy and 15 rads which is the protocol in u.k.

    No one can make this decision apart from me but I am 62 with a 72 year old wonderful husband and I want quality in our lives.

    We have just returned from a short holiday and I felt so unwell which is why I stopped the arimidex.  When we went to our room my husband had organised champagne and flowers with a note saying everything would be alright.  I am blessed to have him but have been so unwell now on this devil pill.

    We have had a year of tests since I started them as every side effect I put down to mets and would not face the fact it was the pill as it is my safety  blanket.  I have had mris, endoscopys, x rays, ultrasounds, blood tests etc.

    Enough is enough and it is not fair on my husband.  This is why I thought it would be good to get some feedback.

    So many thanks

    Maria

  • maria26
    maria26 Member Posts: 44
    edited June 2014

    Hi ladies,

    Anyone out there with experience of coming off hormonals who are 5 years or more ned.

    Thanks

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