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  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited April 2014

    juneping,

    Dr. Servan-Schreiber is very well know for his book,  Anti-Cancer, A New Way of Life.  He did far better than originally expected, in terms of survival and passed away in July 2011.

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited April 2014

    huh...he died??

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited April 2014

    Yes, sadly he did in 2011 but he lived for about 20 years after his original dx. He left a great and interesting body of work which is definitely worth a read.

  • GrammyR
    GrammyR Member Posts: 702
    edited April 2014

    Moderators- Yes , that was the exact condition BPPV  finally diagnosed. I would turn over in bed ad the room would literally spin. Terrifying at the time.

  • Akevia
    Akevia Member Posts: 209
    edited April 2014

    juneping

     Great video, thanks for sharing!

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited April 2014

    yes.  big eek about rotational vertigo.  gary null has posted on his blog I think an article:  "a natural treatment for breast cancer".  I've not yet read it

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited April 2014

    ooh...I am still in a state of shock. But you're right, his work is def very interesting with science to back it up. I think I'll read his book. 

    His lecture was just so funny and informative. 

  • pipers_dream
    pipers_dream Member Posts: 618
    edited April 2014

    June, I thought his book was great.  I'll be sure to watch the film tomorrow.   

  • AryaS
    AryaS Member Posts: 131
    edited April 2014

    I read Anticancer and really felt inspired.  Dr. Servan-Schreiber combines anecdotes with empirical evidence.  His anecdotes are a bit...disconcerting at times though.  I was also a bit disappointed to learn after I had read the book that he had died however, he did keep his cancer at bay for a very long time.

    3 cups of green tea a day, 30 minutes of daily exercise, meditation and more veggies, and curcumin and less/no dairy, sugars and white flour are his main points.


  • vacationbound
    vacationbound Member Posts: 171
    edited April 2014

    yes, grammy, i am very well aware of what this thread is, no schooling needed and i believe we all have moved on from that topic after all points were made.

  • vacationbound
    vacationbound Member Posts: 171
    edited April 2014

    Dr. Lorenzo Cohen, Director of MDA Integrative Oncology Dept. held a lecture on David Servan-Schreibers anti cancer book which his brother, Camille was the guest speaker. He also wrote a book while he was actively dying titled "not the last goodbye", MDA has a 5 year grant to study his diet and nutrition plan. Google Cohen-Schreiber grant + MDA, I would post link but cannot perform this function from my cell phone for some reason.

  • flannelette
    flannelette Member Posts: 984
    edited April 2014

    I've been reading through this, and wish to add an anecdote about the use of IP6. Hope you don't think I'm a nut-case for mentioning this, but i would try it if ever I developed mets to the brain lining: meningioma.

     My beloved 17 yr old cat became very sick - my vet just said 'cat'sheimers'. I found a much better vet who finally diagnosed meningioma. so I went to the cat cancer forum on the net, and someone told me that her cat had meningioma and she used IP6 and the cat survived. so, I found veterinary IP6, administered it to my cat (who was also put on steroids and other treatment by the wonderful vet) and -  my cat did not die of meningioma. My vet had never seen a cat survive it and was amazed. Sadly, my cat had also developed lung cancer, against which IP6 was apparently no help at all, and I had to euthanize him as it was too far progressed by the time of that dx. A story ending with a shocking twist a bit like David Servan-Schrieber - lived for another 20 yrs and I too was shocked, and saddened, just now, to find he died in 2011 -  about the time I discovered his book.

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited April 2014

    flan - sorry about your cat....i missed mine all the time especially after i caught BC...

    even though Dr. Servan-Schrieber died but i wouldn't think his theories didn't work, after all he did make it 20 years. i was browsing about him and found a blog which was bashing his studies. the writer had no knowledge of cancer...it just baffles me for someone had no clue and blog about it. i wanted to leave a comment but it's disabled....

  • hjpz
    hjpz Member Posts: 348
    edited April 2014

    Thanks for the info juneping - I am looking into reading his book.

  • flannelette
    flannelette Member Posts: 984
    edited April 2014

    2 other books, recommended by Servan-Shrieber are Foods that fight Cancer and Cooking with Foods that fight cancer by Drs. Gringras & Beliveau who are scientists running a large research lab in Montreal. David SS used & recommended their work - interesting and scientific details in layman's language on things like green tea, turmeric, flax, the cabbage family. How the various phytonutrients make the pathways to do things like stop or slow angiogenesis, convince bc cells to stop replicating, etc. They might be able to create an environment that is unfavourable to cancer growth.

     I like SS's book as it allows you to work on things yourself, which is always better than doing nothing, so it gives you a feeling of more control. also, most of it is probably true but not understood well, so I'm so glad to hear of the 5 year study going on at MDA? These kinds of things are, after all, often the bases for chemo & other drugs. 

    One thing I read in a book on trees by the world-class biologist Diane Beresford Kreuger (sp?) is: if a child holds a black walnut (and I'm thinking the raw, lime-green tennis ball thing that drops off black walnut trees in my yard and really smells like lime - it's actually juglone, a power toxin/poison secreted by the tree as its main method of defence) - holds a black walnut in the crook of their arm, they will be exempt from childhood leukemia. that phrase just blows me away. sometimes i pick one up and hold it in the crook of my arm, wondering, could it possibly be working on any sneaky little bc buggers that just might be metastsizing in me? Or is it poisoning me? Or would I have to peel it first?  The deadly - and possibly useful to us - poisons that are available in nature. Such as taxol from the yew, (yew berries highly poisonous) and so on - known to us down through the years. I never understood that because plants can't run away from enemies, they must develop poison - and if we can figure it out we can benefit from their evolution.

  • hjpz
    hjpz Member Posts: 348
    edited April 2014

    Hello ladies.  I just wanted to reaffirm the power of certain supplements IMO.  Prior to both my double mast. in Nov. and now my exchange (implant) surgery yesterday I followed a vitamin/supplement regimen that I found on a few plastic surgeon websites.  I really think it has helped me rebound faster and heal quicker without swelling or a lot of bruising.  I took high amounts of Vit. A and C and Bromelain 2 times per day for two weeks prior to surgery and have been taking Arnica Montana every 4 hours for the past 3 days. I seriously believe these supplements have helped me.   Yay for nature!

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited April 2014

    flannelette.  extremely interesting.  I have a butternut tree here & wonder if it would have a similar-same effect.  the tree is very old & doesn't produce nuts every year but I intend to harvest some this year if it does produce.  I actually have some dark brown dye a neighbor made for me many years ago from the hulls.  must be 25 years ago at least.  it's in an old jam jar & is as pristine as when new:  has never molded or like that.  may have turned to alcohol, I've never opened it.

  • flaviarose
    flaviarose Member Posts: 442
    edited April 2014

    an interesting aside:  butternut is also known as "white walnut"

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited April 2014

    thinking of getting a dropper bottle from the drugstore, decanting some of that dye & using it topically on the dressing

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited April 2014

    just read gary's breast cancer a natural approach.  it's on prnfm.  It's not very long & not much new.  Peaches.  & something else I forget already.  lymph massage.  says that pre? cancerous nodes can re generate.  

  • Headeast
    Headeast Member Posts: 619
    edited April 2014

    Hello ladies, what can i eat to help my WBC raise? It is at 29 now. I have nipple reconstruction in two weeks and my primary gave me the results today... Thank you!

  • flannelette
    flannelette Member Posts: 984
    edited April 2014

    back to Abigail - I think the butternut & black walnut are very different in the nut they produce. the black walnuts fall off the tree - and they look like fuzzy lime green tennis balls and smell very strongly like the leaves do - juglone. Emitted by the tree roots to kill off anything that wants to grow near it. Far as i can tell the way new trees sprout is the squirrels carry the walnuts away to "plant" in a new place for later eating. 

    I also have a butternut tree. Nuts don't fall off in the tennis ball thing & there is no smell to leaves. I think Juglone is the unique property of black walnuts.  black walnut husks (once you get the lime green tennis ball coat off) WERE indeed used for dye - and if you can figure out how to get the very hard shells off ( I've heard that people put them into cement mixers, drive over them etc.) the nuts are supposed to be delish & nutritious. but i don't think black walnuts are what we buy at the grocery as 'walnuts'.  someone here tried to establish a black walnut processing plant but I think the technology/machinery design part eluded him.

    I'd be very careful about putting that butternut shell infusion on your body...while I'm pretty certain there's no juglone there, you might give yourself some very tough dye stains LOL - i understand the temptation to experiment, though.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited May 2014

    I already got blue stains from the coloidal silver I use sometimes to hold down bacteria.   my neighbor used a vice to crack the butternuts.  they do fall, but arn't spiky, very sticky though  

  • pipers_dream
    pipers_dream Member Posts: 618
    edited May 2014

    Well I have a Black Walnut tree in my backyard.  I wonder if you can dye your hair with them?  I love the smell and black walnut husk is supposed to be good for getting rid of parasites too, though I have no idea how to prepare the stuff.  The nuts are most def not like the English walnuts you get at the store--they are much stronger flavored and a little goes a long way.  

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited May 2014

    yes a much leaa toxic way to dye skin & hair than the chemicals in the drugstore. I think you remove the hulls &cook them in water for a time  I'm now juicing not every day.  many years ago I read that the hunzas?  lived such a long time.  & the difference to their diet was apricots (I think have a lot of coumarin) & mulberries.  recently here there's dried organic mulberries & fresh organic mulberry juice.  very delicious.  

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited May 2014

    there's a blog on the net, exactly something I forget already, using 5 cracked black walnuts for a medium brown, but you need to be VERY careful, it's not toxic except to companion animals but it's very easy to get it allover.  there are a lot of photos & before & after photos, & a lot more receipes I've not read

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited May 2014

    by the way in in 14 months according to mr google 100 percent of untreated people will be dead.  but they've been diagnosed with biopsy & mamograms presumably which cant do much good except for getting words:  stage, type prognoses.  I'm counting from the first show march 15th 2011.  if I live to the 100 percent dead that would take me to past 5 years survival

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited May 2014

    & the lesion, like the nomenculture light gave me in a pm, but must relook to remember, is encroaching on my nipple.  it took 3 years to go the quarter inch to it, so another 3 years to cover it would take me to 2017 & 6 years survival.  I guess july 2015 isn't quite 5 years.

  • geewhiz
    geewhiz Member Posts: 1,439
    edited May 2014

    Juneping - A special THANK YOU for the link to the Servan-Schreiber video. It hit at the perfect time. I have a friend who just got diagnosed with a Stage 4 brain tumor, mom to 2 young children. She has been somewhat despondent. She cannot read a book right now, given her treatment and surgeries, so this movie was just the ticket we needed to get the information to her (which is even more devastating since she is a brilliant attorney that started one of our city's largest practices.)

    This movie gave her hope. It has changed her mood entirely. I thank you sincerely for sharing it. I have been on the Anti-Cancer book bandwagon since the moment I read it. I keep a copy by my bedside, and several on the shelves to give away as sadly, they are needed.

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited May 2014

    geewhiz - i am glad i could help. and so sorry about your friend....cancer sucks!!

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