BRCA1 positive and only 21 plus no family history

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PhoebeStephanie
PhoebeStephanie Member Posts: 19

hello

okay I had a mtdna test and under my mutations brca1 gene was listed

I am now very anxious and just keep thinking and thinking about it especially since I know its from my moms side

and my grandmother 97 now never had a history of any cancer neither did her mom or brothers and sisters,my mom and her sister/brothers never did either

I find this so not only unfair but very troubling I don't know how I should know now when I should get checked for ovarian or breast cancer cause iv heard its best to check 10 years earlier before it happand in the youngest relative,

but how could I know if there is no history? according to a recent article I read I have 45% lifetime chance of breast and 38% of ovarian cancer

but I don't know if family history and other factors can make these numbers any lower or higher

I really wish I wouldn't have known to be honest cause I am hypochrondiac and now cant just let it go

I was hoping maybe cause there is no history of familial breat/ovarian or any cancer my risk may be lower

I already asked this to a doctor and she said because there is no history I shouldn't worry but still im afraid of the ovarian/breast cancer risk I have now in my 20s/30s

which I wouldn't know but if I have a 40 or 30% chance in my 20s and/or 30s im afraid it will always be with me everyday

and since I have fibromyalgia I am afraid I will never recognize any symptoms simply because  I experience chronic pain all the time

also I have underdeveloped breasts which ive heard even increases the chances of cancer even more

im soo scared now I really hope someone can give me advice, :(

thank you

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  • ballet12
    ballet12 Member Posts: 981
    edited April 2014

    Hi Phoebe,  I'm so sorry that you got the news about the BRCA1 mutation.  Was this done as part of a larger test to assess all of your dna for deleterious (bad) genes?  You may want to get it re-tested by one of the companies (like Myriad or Quest) who specialize in brca testing, just to validate (repeat) the result, before you do anything else.

    If the result is validated, then you should see a genetics counselor to go over your results.  Just to let you know, you can inherit a brca1 gene from the FATHER's side as well as the mother's side.  And, if the result is valid and replicated, it doesn't matter whether you have any other family members who had breast cancer, you would still have the higher risk, regardless of what that doctor told you.

    So, your intent was to find out about your genes, and you did, and perhaps you have saved your life with this information. 

    Next, after visiting the geneticist, you should find a high-risk clinic where they follow young women who are BRCA positive.  This is usually at a large teaching hospital with a breast cancer treatment center. You would be followed by a team, including a breast surgeon and radiology specialists and they would determine a monitoring schedule for imaging.

    Finally, after you get all the information, you can always go to the "FORCE" website where they have information and support for individuals at high risk for breast and ovarian cancer.  Best of luck to you.  There are also support threads on bco which deal with issues faced by those who are brca positive.

  • lintrollerderby
    lintrollerderby Member Posts: 483
    edited April 2014

    Hi Phoebe,

    I'm sorry you're here. Ballet gave you good advice. If this was through a company that tests for all kinds of things, you should have a specific BRCA test run. Be prepared, though, that it will come back positive for a deleterious mutation. How do you know it's from your mom's side? You didn't state why you think that's true. My BRCA1 mutation is from my dad, and the risk is equal from both sides. 

    As for lifetime risk, for BRCA1, the lifetime risk for breast cancer is usually a little higher than you indicated, but that depends on the specific mutation. No, just because you have no family history, you can not just let a positive result go. I had no family history of breast or ovarian cancer and I was the first to be diagnosed out of the blue with breast cancer at age 34. I didn't think I'd be positive for a BRCA mutation, but I was and so was my daughter. She is 20 and just had her bilateral prophylactic mastectomy with reconstruction about 7 weeks ago. She, unlike me, had the gift of knowing her high risk status before developing cancer...and so do you. Yes, the news can be devastating, but knowing you carry a genetic fault just means you now have the information to act on it. Before the test, you still had the same risks, you just didn't know you had them.

    The doctor you spoke with gave you bad advice. There are many of us who have BRCA mutations and have developed cancer who had no family history...we are now the family history. Do not let the lack of history create a sense of complacency. Women with BRCA1 mutations tend to get Triple Negative Breast Cancer (like I did), and TNBC tends to strike much younger than other types. You need to have a validated result and then seek treatment guidance from a high-risk breast clinic. 

    Ballet mentioned the FORCE site and you should check it out: facingourrisk.org

    I'm sorry you're here, but know that the test result, while not good, could very likely save your life.

    Best wishes.

  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited April 2014

    I ditto Ballet & lintroller, except I'd go to the genetics doc FIRST and let them recommend what testing to do, rather than just asking for a BRCA test first.

  • PhoebeStephanie
    PhoebeStephanie Member Posts: 19
    edited April 2014

    hello

    this was my test:

    https://www.familytreedna.com/mt-dna-compare.aspx

    I know its from my moms side cause mtdna testing only tests your mothers mother her mothers mother about 28 generations back its for ancestry not health but still

    and I have a family tree of that side of the family that goes back to around 1615 and no one has ever died of any cancer and all passed away between the age of 70 to 100

    that's why I don't understand such a high risk yet no one in the family has ever had it so how could this be a family cancer gene when none has ever had cancer

    it just tested for dna mutations it was for genealogy not anything else wanted to know more about my heritage but I saw this gene was listed in hvr1/2 differences

    I also find it very annoying everyone says a different thing about the risk thing many say cause there is no history i shouldnt worry others say the opposite very confusing,

    so I don't know who to believe anymore but I still cant understand how the so called familial breast cancer hasn't appeared anywhere from 1600s to 2014 on my moms side

    I also cant order a test cause it says it has to be ordered by a genetic counselor or doctor doctor says since there hasn't been any ovarian or breast cancer for 100s of years he says its very unlikely it skips so many generations and then comes to strike me so aka waste of money/time...

    its pretty much already ruined my life cus I cant stop thinking about it now and even women with lots of breast/ovarian cancer in the family get screened as late as 25

    and since that's not my case id probably have to wait even more years when I may have already died from either at 22 or even 21

    also knowing I can never have children now is devastating I don't want to go pass on certainty for cancer genes to my children


    ooh and I wont post the article since im sure most people here cant read dutch

    was a dutch study performed on a lot of non related women with the brca1 gene and said the risk for dutch women is much lower than they previously thought

    was published in nov/dec 2013

    because the 86% risk was a estimation and a test performed in one single family where a lotof these cancers occurred in different generations

    still 45% for bc and 38% for ovaries is a death sentence to me already so it doesn't matter much for me

  • lintrollerderby
    lintrollerderby Member Posts: 483
    edited April 2014

    Melissa: I would normally say that, but since she has already had a panel that indicates a BRCA1 mutation, there needs to be confirmation of that. That's not to say that a genetic counselor could not also indicate other panels to run, but this has been an issue with these types of tests. I'm an Outreach Coordinator for FORCE, and while we normally always advocate for genetic counseling (rather than testing), this situation is different. We saw a lot of this type of result when 23andme were giving medical information. 

  • lintrollerderby
    lintrollerderby Member Posts: 483
    edited April 2014

    Take a breath Phoebe, it isn't a death sentence. I feared it was from a company that does this. In the U.S., we had a company called 23andMe that offered the same thing and many learned of their BRCA mutations that way. It usually means you have to take your test results to a high risk clinic to see a Genetic Counselor who then can run the appropriate testing. DO NOT TAKE A FATALISTIC VIEW OF THIS RESULT. It is not the end of the world.

    Remember that your mother's line includes males. Males also pass on BRCA1 mutations. If it's a low penetrance mutation, then it can account for why you don't see deaths. I do ancestry and can go back to the 1400s. In all my research, on the side where I have a confirmed BRCA1 mutation, I only KNOW of 1 other case. My great-grandmother. Also, remember, just because you have the ancestry research, that means NOTHING. Until VERY recently, most people never had the accurate cause of death of an illness on their death certificate. For Dutch women, that was for the Dutch Founder mutation. You don't know yet which BRCA mutation you have, it may be a different one. 

    This will all be ok.

  • PhoebeStephanie
    PhoebeStephanie Member Posts: 19
    edited April 2014

    '' The mtDNA tests use the mitochondrial DNA found in the mitochondria of your cells.  This is found outside of and completely separate of the nucleus of your cells, which houses all your chromosomes.  This mitochondrial DNA segment is composed of 3 different regions; HVR1, HVR2, and Coding Region.  Also, we do not give information for medical diagnosis related to specific genes.  I know 23andMe was doing that, but they have been recently shut down by the FDA.  ''

    this is what ftdna send me when I asked about it to be honest I findit very difficult to understand perhaps because I don't speak English very well so

    I also already emailed the dutch brca researching website saying my doctor wont take me seriously hoping maybe they can help,me or give me advice.u.

    I always find it difficult to have breast examination cause I have breast disfiguration which makes me feel like a monster but just have to cget over that

    also mtdna tests aren't able to test the male line only ydna tests can which women are somehow genetically uncapable of taking so it is my mom which then may the result also benefit her

    ofcourse im not blaming her but I now know ill never have children because of this ofcourse she didn't know

    yeah I just assumed it was the dutch one lived here since forever haha we have no foreign ancestry exept german even not according to the test so was a waste of money after all

  • PhoebeStephanie
    PhoebeStephanie Member Posts: 19
    edited April 2014

    thank you lintrollerderby

    its just that I already have health anxiety and depression which Ive heard can also onset cancer

  • farmerlucy
    farmerlucy Member Posts: 3,985
    edited April 2014

    Phoebe - I second the take a deep breath suggestion. It is going to take some time for you to digest this, but as lintrollerderby said THIS IS NOT A DEATH SENTENCE. Do find that doc who can be your partner in this. You may not need to do anything for many years. Screening for awhile is certainly an option. My DIL's mom is BRCA1, and DDIL was just tested (she is neg). However she was going to finish having her kids and do high risk surveillance for a few years before she had any surgery. Your risk of passing the gene on is 50%. And who knows, there may be a cure for BC by the time it could be an issue for your children.

    I too would suggest getting a retest. There is a reason the 23andme was pulled from the US market.

    My DD is 24. She is at least third generation at risk for pre-menopausal BC, but if there is a genetic link it is unknown. In some sense knowing that one has a known risk is a good thing. It allows you to be proactive as LRD's daughter was.

    Don't panic. Take things step by step. This is just a bump in the road of your life.

  • PhoebeStephanie
    PhoebeStephanie Member Posts: 19
    edited April 2014

    The mtDNA tests use the mitochondrial DNA found in the mitochondria of your cells.  This is found outside of and completely separate of the nucleus of your cells, which houses all your chromosomes.  This mitochondrial DNA segment is composed of 3 different regions; HVR1, HVR2, and Coding Region. Also, we do not give information for medical diagnosis related to specific genes.  I know 23andMe was doing that, but they have been recently shut down by the FDA.

    can somebody maybe help me with the reply i got from the reply i wrote about the brca1 mutation

    what do they mean by this i already tried google translate to my native language but it doesn't make much sense it just confuses me more them saying it is separate from my own cells i really don't get it if its not in my cells then do they mean i don't have it then how did they find it huh....?maybe im just stupid haha its all so complicated

    farmerlucy thank you,ive already had so many bumps in the road getting so tired i lost my best friend to Hodgkin lymphoma who was diagnosed at 16 and died a few months after just turning 18 that's when my health anxiety started i think...yeah i will be looking a way to get retested again in my country though i have to get permission from my main doc to go to any other kind of doc but him that's why im afraid its gonna be difficult but now getting this rpely and knowing these mtdna test aren't reliable ijust need a answer that's 100% certainty, cause inow just read there can be a lot of mutations in the brca1 gene including non cancer risk ones..waiting for the email from the dutch brca team hoping they can help me,if it is positive both breast and ovaries are going out


  • Lojo
    Lojo Member Posts: 303
    edited April 2014

    Something doesn't sound right here. MtDNA is maternal only, but my understanding is that the BRCA gene is on an autosomal chromosome, hence the reason you can inherit from both maternal and paternal sides.

  • Lojo
    Lojo Member Posts: 303
    edited April 2014

    BRCA is on chromosome 17 (of the 22 chromosomes + sex chromosomes) that is in the nucleus of your cells. mtDNA only has a little bit of info in it-- mostly related to aerobic respiration and division of mitochondria). I'm no geneticist, so while it's possible they also tested your nuclear DNA, it doesn't line up with what this test sounds like it was. Can you take the report to your doctor?

    Here's the link for the BRCA gene

    http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/gene/BRCA1

  • PhoebeStephanie
    PhoebeStephanie Member Posts: 19
    edited April 2014

    @Lojo

    ''The mtDNA tests use the mitochondrial DNA found in the mitochondria of your cells.  This is found outside of and completely separate of the nucleus of your cells, which houses all your chromosomes''

    is what the woman from the company told me so my nucleas cells weren't tested it seems

  • ballet12
    ballet12 Member Posts: 981
    edited April 2014

    So, a re-test is really in order before you feel that your life is doomed or you need to plan surgery.  Contacting the Dutch brca group makes sense.  They can direct you to doctors and to the labs who do these tests routinely.  If you need to go back to your primary doctor (as you indicated), hopefully the Dutch brca group can give you information to present to that doctor.  Maybe your doctor will send you to a geneticist or a genetics counselor as Melissa suggested.  They can also guide you. Do you know the family history on your father's side?

  • lintrollerderby
    lintrollerderby Member Posts: 483
    edited April 2014

    You're welcome, Phoebe.

    These are called direct-to-consumer genetic tests. DTC testing has had quite an impact on the BRCA community among others. 

    This doesn't necessarily mean the mutation came from your mother. Even though this is testing mtDNA, it's testing YOUR DNA. Much of the information contained in the report will reflect your female relatives, but remember, that your DNA (in every cell) contains your BRCA information. It's an autosomal dominant inherited mutation and the company you used tests in a comprehensive manner. That's why they gave you the info about HVR1, HVR2, and Coding Region being included. So, in addition to the info from your mother, maternal grandmother, etc (in an ancestral fashion as far as it relates to haplogroups), there's also info in there about YOU. And part of your DNA is what was given to you by your father. What is the family history like on his side?

  • PhoebeStephanie
    PhoebeStephanie Member Posts: 19
    edited April 2014

    @ballet12my grandmother is still alive shes 93 exept for being overweight no health issues my grandfather died in 2000 of a heartattack at age 80

    in their brothers/sisters/parents no cancer either my great grandmother did die young at 40 but that was non cancer related other great grandmother and father has no cancer either

    my father has liver problems at 59 but he drinks/smokes a lot so i think that's the reason.

    im now a bit less worried because of what the woman from the company told me that it isn't in mine chromosomes but still don't really get it but well i do know impreparing for the worst just in case


  • PhoebeStephanie
    PhoebeStephanie Member Posts: 19
    edited April 2014

    @kayb oh i see that's interesthing my haplogroup happens to be h

    i still don't know how much im at risk now any thoughts?

    i was wondering cause brca2 is strongly linked to haplogroup h could i have both?

    and what would the outcome of that be 100% risk?

  • lintrollerderby
    lintrollerderby Member Posts: 483
    edited April 2014

    Phoebe, don't read too much into the haplogroup/BRCA thing. There may be trends, but no solid correlation. 

    There's no way to know your risk precisely. Even if you get a dedicated BRCA test and it's positive, you still won't know your precise risk.

    It's highly unlikely you have both a BRCA1 and BRCA2 mutation. It does happen, but it's extremely rare. When it does, it only means you take the higher risk of the two. Not combined risk.

  • PhoebeStephanie
    PhoebeStephanie Member Posts: 19
    edited April 2014

    @ lintrollerderby thank you again i guess mtdna test aren't that reliable or else anyone would just take that instead of a 3000 dollar test

    trying to stay positive now at a 45% risk atleast means more than half wont even get cancer not that changes my mind about the ovaries and breast removal cause if im positive that's the first thing thatll happen, and i assume since most ofmy ancestors are ethnically dutch or german i just include myself in there for now, and 45% risk does that go for all age groups i turned 21 in march but am i now at this age 45% certain of developing cancer or does the risk go up by each decade?lik 3% at 20 7% at 30 20% at 40 etc? hoping due to my lack of family history the mutation if i had it would be low risk or even better a non cancerous mutation but im just preparing myselffor the worst now, also wish everyone who has brca1/2 mutation all the best

  • Lojo
    Lojo Member Posts: 303
    edited April 2014

    PhoebeStephanie,

    How exactly was the BRCA1 reported to you? Was it embedded in a list of "possible associated mutations" ?

    Again, as far as I can tell they just tested your mitochondrial DNA, which is not a test of Chromosome 17 where the BRCA gen is located, so I really don't understand what they're really telling you. It's possible that, like the earlier post suggested, that new research shows linkages between BRCA and specific mtDNA haplotypes, but it sounds like you should read that as "people with BRCA1 are likely to be in haplogroup H" and NOT "If you're in haplogroup H you automatically have the BRCA mutation.

    Again, I'm no expert, but I don't think that mt DNA can be used to identify this mutation directly. You should follow up with both the company and a genetic counselor, but your family history doesn't sound like the typical brca family history.

    Good luck, and keep us posted.

  • PhoebeStephanie
    PhoebeStephanie Member Posts: 19
    edited April 2014

    @Lojo

    if you order a mtdna test you get three sections hvr1/2 differences from rsrs and hvr1/2 differences from crsr or something, which means they compare your dna to someone and then list all the gene mutations in the sections had a lot of different genes(no idea if associated possibilities such a complicated test) i googled all of them and brca1 i never even heard of it before but then read the whole thing and was like well that doesn't sound good and started researching it, i still am trying to understand how there could be a gene in my family that usually causes breast cancer while its unheard of in my family, the test is meant for ancestry research(where your ancestors from 1000s of years ago came from)i actually never even understand the results that much myselfto be honest, the company said  ''The mtDNA tests use the mitochondrial DNA found in the mitochondria of your cells.  This is found outside of and completely separate of the nucleus of your cells, which houses all your chromosomes'' my doctor also said the same about my family doesn't sound like it has this gene mutation he said it can happen to skip 1 or 2 generations but since my maternal line is free of such cancers he doubts it a cancerous mutation also being told insurance will never cover my test due to no family history.

    thank you and i will!

  • lintrollerderby
    lintrollerderby Member Posts: 483
    edited April 2014

    Wait, I will write a longer post to address several points, but I want to get something posted quickly that I just saw while skimming your newest post. 

    BRCA mutations do not skip generations. There can be many generations that never develop cancer, but it's not because it skipped. It's simply because the carrier never developed cancer.

    There are several things I want to post, but it will take me awhile and it may not be until tomorrow before I can comprehensively reply, but I wanted to state that first.

  • lintrollerderby
    lintrollerderby Member Posts: 483
    edited April 2014

    Oops, I meant to add this to my post above. Here's your quote" "my doctor also said the same about my family doesn't sound like it has this gene mutation he said it can happen to skip 1 or 2 generations but since my maternal line is free of such cancers he doubts it a cancerous mutation"

    As I stated above, my family had no breast or ovarian cancer, as is the case for many BRCA mutation carriers, yet cancer still happened. BRCA mutations can not skip a generation...they don't work like that because they are autosomal dominant. You either have a mutation or you don't. Also, if a doctor tells you that only your maternal line counts, find a new doctor...NOW. Paternal history is equally important in breast cancer risk.

    Again, I will post a much longer message addressing a great deal of the info posted in this thread.

  • lintrollerderby
    lintrollerderby Member Posts: 483
    edited April 2014

    I won't be able to finish my post tonight, unfortunately. I've got a deadline to meet, but I'll post tomorrow and address much of what has been discussed. I will also speak with a geneticist that I know. 

    Also, even though the article is in Dutch, please post a link to it. I'd like to be able to see the one you are specifically referring to; there is likely an English version, but if not, I have an acquaintance who may be able to help.

    Good night.

  • PhoebeStephanie
    PhoebeStephanie Member Posts: 19
    edited April 2014

    my doctor didnt mean the gene would skip generations but if we have to believe some studies that say 80% chance he said it is very unlikely my mom my grandmother and her 5 sisters and my greatgrandmother and sisters have all escaped from such a high risk and then now it comes back to strike me thats what he told me maybe its the language barrier sorry

    http://www.skipr.nl/actueel/id13856-kans-op-borstk...

    there are many linkson different dutch websites so i just posted a random one.

    thank you for you help,didnt fell anxious yesterday but now i do again very scared

  • Lojo
    Lojo Member Posts: 303
    edited April 2014

    Hi Phoebe, can you post the page of results from the gene testing company? This article you posted is simply about the risk of breast cancer in women with the BRCA1 mutation - it says nothing about if/how they identified your particular risk/gene. Again, I still think that if they tested only your mitochondrial DNA there is no way they can identify you as having the BRCA1 mutation.

    Quick genetics overview:

    All cells of animals, plants, fungi have a nucleus (a little container in the cell that contains DNA  wound up into separate chromosomes. Humans have 23 sets of these chromosomes - referred to as nuclear DNA. These are the chromosomes / genetic information you inherit from both parents. Sperm have 23 chromosomes, eggs have 23 and at fertilization the new embryo gets the combination for a total of 46).

    All cells of animals, plants, fungi also have little "organelles" called mitochondria that are located outside of the nucleus. They are mainly responsible for converting food energy into cellular energy using oxygen. However, they have an interesting evolutionary history. They were once free-living bacteria. You'll notice above I didn't include bacteria in the list of cells that have a nucleus and mitochondria. This is because at some point in the distant past, little bacteria (that had their own DNA, because all living organisms have DNA to hold their genetic information) were eaten, but not digested by larger cells. These little bacteria continued to live in the larger cells, and benefited the larger cells because they could use oxygen to convert food into energy (that the larger cells could not). However, these mitochondria  (which is what we call these little bacteria that now live in our cells) continued to sort of exist independently from the DNA and genes in the nucleus of the larger cells. The DNA of mitochondria is very similar to  the DNA of a certain kind of  free-living modern bacteria. The mitochondria in our cells also divide separately from how the DNA in the nuclear chromosomes divide, so that they keep their own DNA from mitochondrial generation to mitochondrial generation. 

    Now, at fertilization, something strange happens. The sperm (which needs lots of energy and hence mitochondria) to get to the egg, dumps all its mitochondria when it joins with the egg. So the egg's mitochondria are the ones that end up in the new embryo (baby). So this is why you can trace maternal lineages back through mitochondrial DNA. (This is called the endosymbiosis hypothesis if you want to google it in Dutch). (There are various theories as to why the mother's mitochondria are the only ones that are kept, but it's sort of beside the point).

    What this means is that there are two sets of DNA that can be examined, and as far as I can tell, the Family Tree data you have is only your mitochondrial DNA, which means there can be no way they definitively tested for the presence of the BRCA1 gene mutation. It is possible there are mtDNA mutations that are associated with BRCA1 or that independently have been shown to be associated with increased breast cancer risk, but again, I don't see that you have had a specific test to definitively test your nuclear DNA for the presence of BRCA1. I could be wrong, but I think that they would have said something about  testing your nuclear DNA and I don't think it's really ethical of a company to list this sort of information with no genetic counselors on call... which is what makes me wonder about how this is being interpreted. 

    I wouldn't worry too much. It's definitely something to look into, but it sounds like you need a lot more info, and a specific test for the presence of BRCA1. 

    :)

  • farmerlucy
    farmerlucy Member Posts: 3,985
    edited April 2014

    Lojo - May I just say that you are a fount, a bushel, a boat load, of knowledge. Thank you!

  • PhoebeStephanie
    PhoebeStephanie Member Posts: 19
    edited April 2014

    hi lojo

    thank you for you reply

    they did only test my mtdna saying my chromosomes and nuclear dna wasn't involved, I also don't understand it much the results and all, never did

    yeah im trying to stay calm for now I tried looking into what test they did to estimate but I really cant find how they got to it

    only that they found this out with a little more than 200 women who had a lot of breast cancer in their family

    I think it depends on the person anyway and try not to get too focused on these statistics

  • lintrollerderby
    lintrollerderby Member Posts: 483
    edited April 2014

    I have spoken with 2 genetic counselors today. I was speaking with them about other matters and brought up your case to ask their thoughts. Both were familiar with Direct-to-Consumer genetic testing (DTC) and the challenges faced with the health information section. Both stated that the result was concerning for a BRCA mutation, but said they could not be certain without seeing the actual report. One GC was familiar with patients learning of BRCA mutations while doing ancestry research and had counseled and re-tested 4 women who were in your situation. One thing that I need to stress to you. I forgot to mention it last night in my post and both GCs agreed with me on this: even if there is a BRCA mutation present, it does NOT mean that it is a deleterious (harmful) mutation. The analysis done by DTC companies is not comprehensive like the ones done by Myriad and Ambry, so they match results with mutations in their databases; they are not able to tell if the mutation is the harmful kind. Both GCs stated that you need to take the report to a GC and have confirmational BRCA testing done. Only then will you have an answer. Both GCs said that they understood the confusion over the mtDNA, but were aware of the situation that I mentioned in my above post, that the mtDNA portion is commonly used for the ancestry portion and the health information is often drawn from information about the DNA of the person submitting the sample. 

    I want to address some points from the above posts. Bear with me because I know it is long.

    • BRCA mutations include those that are: deleterious (harmful), suspected deleterious (believed to be harmful, but not enough information has been compiled about that specific variant), variant of unknown significance (there is a mutation present, but it is not known whether it is a harmful or benign variation), variant favor polymorphism (a mutation that is suspected to be benign), and benign polymorphism (this is routinely reported as a benign condition or listed as no mutation detected). Depending on the specific company, a benign mutation may trigger a match in their database and since the DTC companies do not do full sequencing, they will then list it under the BRCA section. 
    • If someone does have a harmful BRCA mutation, their risk varies by the specific mutation they carry, as well as by the function of their wild-type (good copy) BRCA. This accounts for why some members of the same family with the same mutation have different cancer risks. Risk is also dependent on a carrier's exposure to carcinogens such as chemicals, UV, hormones, etc. 
    • Phoebe wrote: "Also, we do not give information for medical diagnosis related to specific genes. I know 23andMe was doing that, but they have been recently shut down by the FDA.''          That is their liability waiver that they are not giving you medical advice or a diagnosis. Also, 23andMe were NOT shut down by the FDA; they were just told to not give the medical interpretation of the results. Patients can get their raw genetic data and have it interpreted elsewhere.
    • Phoebe wrote: "also I have underdeveloped breasts which ive heard even increases the chances of cancer even more."         Your having underdeveloped breasts does not increase your cancer risk.    
    • Phoebe wrote: "its just that I already have health anxiety and depression which Ive heard can also onset cancer"         Anxiety and depression do not increase your cancer risk.
    • Phoebe wrote: " i guess mtdna test aren't that reliable or else anyone would just take that instead of a 3000 dollar test"    It's not so much that they aren't reliable; it's that they can't give you the information you need. All it tells you is there is something showing up. It doesn't tell you whether that's a harmful, unknown, or benign finding that is triggering the match. If it is harmful, it also doesn't tell you which specific mutation you have which would be important when other family members decide to test.
    • Phoebe wrote: " i still am trying to understand how there could be a gene in my family that usually causes breast cancer while its unheard of in my family"     There may very well not be a genetic mutation in your family, BUT lack of family history happens fairly often. As I said, I am a BRCA1 mutation carrier with no family history. There are quite a lot of us in the FORCE community who have confirmed mutations and know of no other ancestors who had cancer. If a mutation is present, there was likely cancer in your ancestors, but the mutation was able to hide in male-dominated, small families. Remember that most people in the past were not diagnosed with the primary disease, but thought to die of something that the disease caused. I'm NOT saying you have a BRCA mutation, I'm just saying, the wondering about lack of family history isn't going to tell you anything. Also, remember that if FTDNA is using your DNA for the health info section (as opposed to using the mtDNA for ancestry), it will show your characteristics which will also be genetic information inherited from your father. Again, we don't know this for sure, but keep it as a possibility if your test is confirmed later. You mentioned your father's age and health, but not his family. 
    • As for the information you've posted about the risk level. Here's the thing: it's being researched, it is not definitive. There are no known precise risk levels for ANY BRCA mutations. Also, IF you do have a BRCA mutation, you do not know if you have the one that is being questioned to confer lower risk. I'm not saying this to alarm you, but to tell you that no one can tell you precisely what your risk level is IF you get a confirmation of the BRCA result. Most BRCA1 mutations are thought to confer a risk higher than the statistics in the articles you've referenced; those breast cancer levels are closer to the range of most BRCA2 mutations. It's entirely possible that the risk for some are in the 45% range, but it would be irresponsible for a doctor to tell you that your risk is lower simply because of your heritage. 
    • Risk level is lifetime and usually calculated to age 70. 
    • Haplogroups are not a sure thing with regard to BRCA risk. I'm BRCA1+, but my haplogroup is not X. Don't read too much into the correlations. They are still identifying trends in this area, and even when there is strong association, individuals vary.
    • IF you get a confirmed BRCA1 result, you can still have children. There are options. There's no need to cross that bridge unless and until you have a confirmed BRCA result.
    • Lojo said: "and I don't think it's really ethical of a company to list this sort of information with no genetic counselors on call..."     I can't speak to the policies of this company specifically, but in my work as an Outreach Coordinator with FORCE, I can tell you that DTC genetic testing does very often list medical information in the absence of genetic counseling. That's why there's been such controversy. Whether that's what is happening here, I don't know, but it has happened a lot in the BRCA and other genetic communities in the last few years.
    • I'm with Lojo, that I'd love to see the page with the results. Even the GCs I spoke to said they'd like to see them. 

    Phoebe, I know this has been a long post. I don't want you to take an extreme approach either way. Please don't panic that you definitely have a BRCA mutation, and please don't disregard the finding because of lack of maternal family history and the fact that this was an mtDNA test. Both GCs I spoke with said that this needs to be investigated further so that you have the appropriate information. It may be nothing to worry about; if, God forbid, it is a deleterious mutation, there are options and knowing will be such an advantage.

  • PhoebeStephanie
    PhoebeStephanie Member Posts: 19
    edited April 2014

    I am posting a picture 

    now of what my mtdna test was like i dont know if some tests give a ''health section'' but mine didnt

    this is just a example these arent mine but i wanted to give a idea of what the results lookedlikeimage

    the mutation was in one of the hvr1/2 differences from rsrs so in the rsrs values

    there did was another section with literally the word mutations which didnt involved brca1 but doesnt matter cause the differences are also considered mutations

    and called my doctor he doesnt want to send me to a genetic counsler and says i probably wont find any other doctor who will cause whether many women have

    a cancer history or not it is considered a gene for hereditary cancer and i have a big family with my grandmother having 6 children and my great grandmother 8 he says he really doesnt believe it so now i just have to wait for what the dutch brca is going to advice/tell me, and i cant go on my own to make a appointment the say i need a refference from my primary doctor or else they cant help me,

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