I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange
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Blue - LOL - did see the coloured chicken one yesterday
Bren - great news you have some jobs coming in.
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Bet your sweet bippy it is.
Jackie
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And a funny:

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Was anything posted about services for chickadee or did I miss it?
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I haven't seen anything, Cherryl.
Is Bundy a rich person?
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I started looking for an answer to your question E and haven't as yet turned it up. It did occur to me while reading though that Bundy has set himself apart ( as somehow above and better ) from the other area ranchers who pay their fees and work in line with the regulations and rules that prevail. Seems that Bundy is just another rt. leaning extremist who is well aware that he could find a lot of help to "grind" his illegitimate ax. Amazing how it is always based on "the principal" of the thing without ever considering which side of the principle -- because one side is definitely wrong.
I also read somewhere ( disclaimer here since I didn't copy the info or link site ) that the good "patriots" and Bundy planned to put kids first when the heavy-duty action got started. Don't know what sot of "patriots" these people are but it is a great miss-use of the word. They are not 'patriots' to me when they are fighting for something un-deserved by a law-breaker.
Jackie
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A little explanation for the above people in my entry

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Fabulous Jackie, love that duck!
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OMG .. that duck is hilarious!
It's cool and windy today. Been busy with work this morning, so now I need to get dressed and walk the dogs. Can't believe it's already 1:00 p.m.
Don't have any idea as to Bundy's financial status. Guess that would depend on how many cows he's got.
hugs,
Bren
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Oh well Bren......don't you know the Federal guv'mit slaughtered a bunch of his cows. Well, that was just now so he has made his billions by now anyway.
Whichever way it is -- millions or not, rich or poor, smart or dumb, fat or thin....he is still a retarded extremist who is robbing anyone else who pays their fees, along with all of us who pay ANYTHING into the federal or state government, and the federal govt. last but not least. Rusty nail candidate in my book.
Jackie
ETA: I thought someone ( who knows maybe it was me then, too ) had this duck in here before but couldn't remember........so decided to befriend him again as he says something so apt.
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This is older news, but I did enjoy reading the latest and some of the behind it all material. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/22/1293733/-StopRush-Forces-Desperate-Clear-Channel-Measures-in-Los-Angeles
Jackie
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IllinoisLady,
Perhaps some people don't know any married feminists, but both my husband and I are and we've been married 48 years. Many of our married friends are also feminists. Perhaps some people don't know any rich communists, but my husband and I are very liberal (although not Communist) and financially comfortable. Bill Gates is a multi-billionaire, a liberal (although not communist, and he is a non-believer) and is donating the majority of his wealth to world projects. Perhaps some people don't know any atheists facing life threatening situations, but on this site there is an atheist forum with Stage IV members.
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what notself said.
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Yup, that would be me widowed but feminist forever as was dh and atheist, never a communist but probably considered one by the rightwingnuts.
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Blue have stolen your drinking picture and I might just go and listen to the Doors as I am home alone. DH doesn't mind but sister goes off in a huff ( which is why I often play my CDs.
Feminist couple here on this side of the world. And to make it even stranger we are both very liberal Christians - heretics to many we know, some consider us atheists because we support those on the fringes and want inclusiveness and social justice. DH is fairly centre in politics here but in US would be considered a socialist. I am more socialist than him. We are in a good place financially hence the overseas trips etc
After that its time for my dinner.
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I'm just a nut!
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Lifelong feminist raised by a feminist and married to a feminist (who has 3 older sisters). Not a communist but very left - and have gotten more left and more socialist the more financially comfortable I have become. Very financially comfortable now, indeed. Terrified to fly to the point of needing Xanax to get on the airplane but still not a believer in a god. And I find that the insults the regressives throw mostly describe themselves, which is an interesting form of self-loathing, isn't it?
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Yes RL, and they throw them sooooo directly. I'm left and bound to stay that way.......and like Alyson have not one iota of a problem trying to include all in the schemes of things. Intolerant of in-justices so much so that I'm often miss-understood by a lot of people whom I suspect have a bit of a hidden selfish streak.
Guess my surprise is that those who feel different just have no conception it seems that they are a minority and very likely will stay that way unless something SUPER drastic occurs.
Jackie
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Sometimes I think the "regressives" all lack an imagination -- they cannot seem to imagine the lives of others less fortunate than themselves OR if they do, they seem to believe that those less fortunate are there because it's their own fault. Any sad story they hear about someone declaring bankruptcy, losing their home, dying an early death because they couldn't afford healthcare -- well, those stories are just anecdotal and can't possibly reflect reality. And besides, it MUST BE THEIR OWN FAULT! And those fine, upstanding church-going folks think they're doing their charitable duty by helping out their own church members who have fallen on hard times, but "Oh goodness me, I'll not be helping THOSE OTHER PEOPLE". Yep, I know a few of those types. Members of their own community think they're the salt of the earth.....
Well, at least it's gratifying to note that the regressives' opposition to the ACA is turning on them. Still, it's a major shame that the red states who have refused to participate have sentenced their poor and their sick to "death panels" on which their Governors and state legislators sit.
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One of the benefits of growing up in a military family and moving every couple of years is getting to be part of many different communities - and learning at an early age that different is just that: different but not wrong.
I recall proving a math question in a new community using the technique taught in the previous one. The teacher said I was wrong. Even then I knew it was different, not wrong.
After we lived in Virginia and moved to Ontario, I told a history teacher that the south said they had won a moral victory in the US civil war, that my high school played "I wish I were in Dixie" for each football game. He said "no".
Moral of the story is that if more people moved homes or visited quite different communities, they might see the world from different eyes.
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The regressives are a minority, and they are self-limiting because they will die out before long. Yes, we will always have the hateful among us, but they will win fewer and fewer elections. Remember, we elected Barack Obama with more than 50% of the vote - TWICE. We are the majority, and we are only getting stronger.
From Salon Magazine - http://www.salon.com/2014/04/24/roger_ailes_owns_cliven_bundy_now_how_dumb_opportunism_became_a_right_wing_nightmare/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
Thursday, Apr 24, 2014
09:00 AM EDTRoger
Ailes owns Cliven Bundy now: How dumb opportunism became a right-wing nightmareSean Hannity has been the
racist rancher’s top backer, and Fox and the GOP made him a cause. Now he's
their problemby Joan Walsh
Cliven
Bundy, the infamous welfare rancher, was holding forth at his Nevada homestead
Wednesday, and apparently he had a lot to say about “the Negro.” Who could have
guessed?“I
want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he told a small group
of people gathered to see him, which included Adam Nagourney of the New York
Times. Bundy told of driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas,
“and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older
people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people
sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing
for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.“And
because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he
continued. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail,
because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are
they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing
things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no
more freedom. They got less freedom.”Where
to begin? “They never learned how to pick cotton?” Or “are they better off as
slaves?” Or…take your pick.Surprise!
Sean Hannity’s hero, whose cause has been embraced by Senators Dean Heller of
Nevada and Rand Paul of Kentucky along with Texas Gov. Rick Perry, turns out to
be an old-time Republican racist, the kind that even Jonathan Chait recognizes,
and Fox News and the GOP have a problem.Until
now I’ve ignored Bundy because he’s an extremist and a freak, and even Glenn
Beck has denounced him. I was reluctant to use him against the GOP. But as he’s
gotten support from the likes of Paul and Perry, two respected 2016 candidates,
plus regular backing from Hannity and Nevada Sen. Heller, he’s become a huge
problem for the right.The
welfare rancher has grazed his cattle for free and owes the government more
than a million dollars, but to his admirers he’s leading an American
insurrection. “This is the beginning of taking America back,” Shawna Cox of
Kanab, Utah, told the New York Times. From whom? Shawna doesn’t have to say.Asked
about Bundy’s virulently racist remarks by the Times, Rand Paul was “not
available for immediate comment.” What courage. At least Dean Heller’s office
immediately condemned the “appalling and racist statements.” Here’s a tip for
Rand Paul: You’re a libertarian. Give your staff the liberty to tell the media you
abhor racist comments, even if you’re not around.It
was only yesterday – literally – that National
Journal was telling us that Paul was now the leading Republican
tackling issues of poverty and race, after Paul Ryan stumbled, having pretended
to care about the poor while his budget slashed programs that help them to give
tax cuts to the rich. Unfortunately, as “Rand Paul’s Compassionate
Conservatism” was being published, Paul was talking to Fox’s Megyn Kelly and
blaming Chicago’s recent spate of violence on “thuggishness” and the inability
of Chicago’s thugs to distinguish between “right and wrong.”Let’s
face it: Paul’s been a better ally to Cliven Bundy than to the inner city poor.
I’m not saying he would endorse Bundy’s remarks about “Negroes;” he knows
better than that. At least I think he does. But culturally and politically,
he’s quicker to empathize with the lawbreaker in Nevada than those thugs in
Chicago.Then
there’s Sean Hannity. As Jon Stewart said, his Bundy-boosting has made Glenn
Beck “the voice of reason.” But Hannity has repeatedly rejected the criticism,
claiming Stewart “is kind of obsessed with me,” while Bundy has called Hannity
his “hero.”Here’s
hoping that Rand Paul denounces Bundy’s remarks early Thursday. It won’t change
the sad fact that way too many people who think like Paul politically think
like Bundy racially.I
don’t expect Hannity to say a word about Bundy’s predictable descent into the
muck of racism, but I’d love to be surprised.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------So, he is not only a lying seditious ass, he is now a racist, lying, seditious ass. Way to show your true colors, Bundy supporters!
And here is the link to the NYimes story about it this morning: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/us/politics/rancher-proudly-breaks-the-law-becoming-a-hero-in-the-west.html?_r=2
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Alyson, you remind me of one of my favourite Kris Kristoferson songs : "Jesus was a Capricorn, he ate organic food, he believed in Peace and Love, and never wore no shoes." One of my favorite Episcopal Priests was once asked what he absolutely "knew" about God, and he answered by saying, "well as specific as I can get, She's probably Black."
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Lassie ... I believe you're onto something with living in different areas of the country. I've been fortunate that I have been able to live on the west coast, Utah, Wyoming, Iowa, Illinois, North Carolina and now Virginia. People thought I was crazy for leaving San Diego .. but it was the best thing I ever did. And yes, things are different here in the "south." I loved my trip to Niagara and visiting Canada.
Everywhere I have lived has been very different from any other place.
I don't know if I'm a feminist or not. Not too sure of what exactly that means. If it means that I'm independent and strong-willed then I win the prize.
Hope everyone is enjoying their Thursday morning. I'm being lazy this morning and getting a late start on the day.
hugs,
Bren
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Sunnyflowers ... love the quote from the Episcopalian minister. Our own dear Chaplain ministers in the Episcopal church!
hugs,
Bren
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