Infected Seroma
I wasn't sure which category to put this post in but it seems to be a side effect a lot of women develop after surgery. I had chemo first. I had my surgery on Nov 14, 2013. It was a uni masectomy on left side and removal of a bunch of lymph nodes. Fast forward to radiation. I noticed a small hard lump in my armpit. The radiation oncologist said he thought it was muscle. I was getting my radiation done in the smaller town where I live so I wouldn't have to go over an hour everyday one way. So I went to the city for appt after all the radiation was over. My regular oncologist who's managing all my care wanted me to get an ultrasound. I did. They said it was fluid but it wasn't really bothering me. Went home. Started kind of bothering me a few days later. Went to my plastic surgeon. He said it didn't seem infected and he tried to get fluid out but couldn't. I came home with antibiotics anyway. It was really bothering me still so I went to my reg family dr and she arranged another ultrasound. The radioligist in my town drained it and got a lot of fluid out and gave me more antibiotics (I was done with the other ones) That was last Wednesday. I went this morning for a followup ultrasound. The seroma is full of fluid again and they don't think the antibiotics can "get to it" because there's "not much blood flow" to that area. And they had sent out the fluid from before and it is infected with staph. So now (with my plastic surgeon's blessing--they called him) they want to put in a drain on this Wednesday morning. Has anything like this happened to any of you? Will this increase my risk of another infection? Can you have more than one infection at a time? I have a tissue expander and so far no one has said anything about it having to be removed. I didn't have any seroma probs til radiation was over. It seems like the radiation aggravated it if that's possible. Any words of wisdom or advice would be helpful. Thank you.
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Two weeks after my last lumpectomy I felt a hard bump under the incision and the incision looked a little red to me. My surgeon said not to worry that it was probably a reaction to the sutures. Well, five days later I felt a larger lump/hardness under my incision, my breast started to hurt and by the morning had swollen to twice its normal size. It appears I had a seroma, which can be an ideal environment for bacteria to grow. Like you the fluid tested positive for staph. I was admitted to the hospital, the abscess was removed surgically, and I was put on IV antibiotics and went home with antibiotics and a drain. Three weeks after that I started to feel something similar as before. There wasn't as much hardness, but a little bit of pus came out of the incision and it felt hot underneath and the incision was redder than before. I went right back to my surgeon and she put me on antibiotics just in case. The redness and hot feeling went away the next day. I am having a mastectomy next and my surgeon said they might remove the whole lumpectomy incision in case there is some bacteria still there.
I hope your infection is resolved soon. It sounds like drain is a good idea and that keeping the fluid draining will be key to healing. I wouldn't hesitate to go back to your doctor immediately if you feel a change or like the infection is getting worse or a new one is developing.
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Thanks for your reply. No one has mentioned IV antibiotics to me so far. They said the draining should help resolve it. I hope so. I'm glad yours worked out. Good luck with your surgery.
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You can't drain a staph infection away! Somewhere in there they have to give you an antibiotic - the sooner the better. I went in for a BMX with permanent implants and within 8 hours of getting to my room, was running a fever. The first two antibiotics did nothing to stop the infection, fever got higher each day, and by day three the gram-positive staph infection had done a lot of damage. I was changed to the "big gun", IV Vancomycin and was in the hospital for 7 days, then home with the IV Vanc and a visiting nurse for another 7 days before returning for another surgery. I lost parts of three muscles and all the soft tissue under my arm, on my side, and the outside third of my left implant. The implant was removed as well and replaced with an empty tissue expander. The other implant was not affected. I stayed on IV Vanc one month.
What was supposed to be a "one and done" operation seven months ago has turned into a series of surgeries. I'm 10 days out from surgery #4 to repair muscles in my shoulder, axilla, and onto the left pec. I will have surgery #5 in about two months, as soon as the current incisions heal, inside and out.
You do not want to mess with a staph infection. The consequences of waiting even a day can be terrible.
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Thanks for responding ,Sandra. They said it was staph something that started with an "o" They said it was the most common kind. I don't have a fever or chills right now. I did before my plastic surgeon visit so maybe the oral antibiotics did something? The way I understand it it's just an outpatient thing. I'm going to ask them about IV antibiotics tomorrow.
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Well I got the drain put in this morning. I'm supposed to flush it twice a day with a syringe of saline. Has anyone ever heard of this. I also have to measure the fluid. I'm guessing with the drainage they assume the antibiotics I'm currently taking will be able to get to the area.
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How did they tell you to flush a drain? No, I've never heard of that and can't imagine how you would do it.
Measuring the drain output will tell the doctor when to remove the drain. My doctor wanted the measurement to be under 25cc's for two consecutive days before he would remove the drain.
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There is a thing called a "stopcock" that's attatched. I have to turn it to the off position, remove cap, wipe with alcohol pad, insert pre filled syringe of saline and put it in, then turn it back to on, remove syringe and recap. Twice a day. From what I've read on the internet it isn't common. I asked them about IV antibiotics and he said first they'll check me on Monday.
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Hi Allebasi, I'm sorry you're going through this. Mum had an infection and seroma after her surgery, but they didn't re-insert the drain, they just had her come in twice a week and the surgeon or nurse emptied the seroma out with syringes. And put her on strong antibiotics as she hadn't yet had chemo and couldn't start til the infection cleared.
Initially it was very badly handled - I took her to the hospital when she started feeling very ill very quickly, but the nurses only focussed on the seroma, and ignored the newly developing infection - took her temperature only because we asked repeatedly, said it was up slightly, and to 'draw circles around the red area' for 2 days until her routine check up with the surgeon so the doctor could see how much bigger it grew (this makes me sick thinking back, as it resulted in a month of poor health, delayed chemo, and probably worse scarring/healing than she would otherwise have had) . The surgeon (who is very good) took one look at it and said she should have been put on antiobiotics sooner.
I would've thought maybe there's alternative form of antibiotics for your situation - eg IV as suggested, or perhaps some of the anaerobic ones dentists use. If the infection is only in the fluid of the seroma (did I interpret that right?) surely there's a risk of it spreading to the surrounding breast tissue, so antibiotics might serve a preventative use there as well?
I hope they are taking good care of you, and sadly I would have to say, kick up a fuss if you feel it's not being adequately addressed.
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Hi there,
Feeling relieved to find this thread on seromas after surgery. I was told on monday that I have managed to pick up an infection post surgery, having just recently had a lumpectomy and standard lymph node removal. My fever arrived quite quickly, and after the second day at home my breast was becoming very hot, extra swollen and red. I thought this might be part or the recovery pocess, but with the fever symptoms, i decided to return to see my outpaitient breastcare team who wanted to check it out.
I was very given an ultrasound, which showed up the collection of infected fluid, I had aspiration by needle, luckily I had taken a couple of pain killers before that happened. A sample culture has been taken to see what kind of bug it is and I have been given a ten day course of antibotics ( co - amoixiclav). The infected seroma showed up on the ultrasound as a movable collection of fluid.
Yesterday I called the team again, because I now also have clear lymph fluid leaking from the underarm wound, which was particularly unpleasant yesterday...and today too, requring lots of dressings - I dont know else to do?
I am expecting to return tommorow, as advised, possibly to have my enlarged and swollen breast drained again, which I am feeling uncomfortable about, and now i'll need to pay some additional attention to the lypmh area too? I wonder what else might happen?
I am really hoping to turn the corner here, and to start to notice some improvement with this now i am taking the antibiotics, this has been a rough post op recovery period. Feels like a set back, but It is good that I have caught it quickly. Feeling rather uncomfortable and unable to think about much else at the moment.
Thanks for sharing your stories, I am hoping more than anything that i will start to recognised my normal- ish looking breast again soon, and will be saying a big sayonara to the infected seroma very soon, fingers crossed !
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sweettamari, I am right there with you. I had a huge hematoma after my first lumpectomy. After the second lumpectomy I developed seroma which filled the area left by the previous hematoma. It got going last weekend--had to call the BS; she reassured me that my breast wasn't going to die. The following Tues I went in and had it relieved--305ml. No even exaggerating. Yikes. Went in on Fri and had it relieved again. BS reassures me that seromas hardly ever get infected.
Uh oh. Woke up in the early wee hours of Sun morning with fever over 102. Breast hot and swollen. Called BS when the sun came up and she called in an antibiotic. That was yesterday.
Today, went to see the BS to talk about putting a drain in. She did an ultrasound which revealed only a very little fluid in the pocket. She took off about 8ml of very nasty looking fluid. So, no drain at this time. At least my temperature is under 100 now. I still feel like a truck hit me.
I go back Wed to see how this turns out.
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Hey, thanks for the support Mustlovepoodles,
Sorry to hear that you've picked up a bug ontop of the seroma; It's so darn unpleasant. Hoping those anitibiotics are helping turn it around and you're not feeling too uncomfortable, recovery is somewhat slower, but it will happen. Hope you had good care on Wednesday?
Mine was a staph infection (quite common). Last weeks two aspiration's were performed, with the lymph area in the armpit also very weepy and ooozy in addition, and more recently on Tuesday the incision from the lumpectomy around the nipple also released fluid - my breast decided to take care of things and aspirated itself ! it was quite a shock to see that much liquid pour from my lumpectomy wound
Not what I had anicipated. So much fluid in all. Big yuck.
Things have calmed down thankfully, no more of the awful swelling and collection of fluid, no more redness.The course of antibiotics has been extended for another week, and a swab has been taken to make sure the infection has not become resistance to the antibiotics.
Starting to feel stronger and less worried. Concerned that taking the anitbiotics are a bit of a knock to my system and wondering how to build my happy gut flora back up ? Thinking I will start taking a lot of probiotics as I near the end of the antibiotic cycle. I can now wear my normal bra size again so things are heading in the right direction. Phew.
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