2014 Running Thread
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Welcome Nettie1964. Older than you. Was older than you when I started. Never ran a step in my life other than to catch a bus. Ran first 5K about 5 weeks after starting, first 10K at 6 months (after training through the winter on the indoor track), first half marathon at 18 months (coinciding with my BC diagnosis). Have done it now for five years. I am not good at it but it's been good to me. As you can see from the calendar, I spend a bundle on it because that is what I do for ME. I live 1000 miles from WDW and 3000 miles from Disneyland and I have two runs at each place this year.
My beginner running tips: (1) never mind the pace, walk when you need to - there's enough medals for everyone, (2) listen to your body but remember, sometimes your body lies (see #3), (3) the first 5K suck, and it's amazing how much better km 6 to 10 are compared to km 1 to 5, (4) a sports bra that totally immobilizes the jiggle, and that's usually not a tight-squash-uniboob thing but rather a structured non-stretch model, (5) try the gear real runners have because they use it for a reason, such as compression tights, GPS watch or app that shows your pace, proper wicking shirts, water-bottle belt, real running shoes, (6) dress for the weather but don't fear the cold or rain, (7) run where it's interesting, or on the treadmill, while the football game is on, (8) keep track of your success -- and just going out and doing it is success, (9) sign up for an event to keep you looking forward to something (and keeping honest with the training) and then on the day enjoy the amazing vibes of everyone on a shared mission, and (10) go and get that medal and hang it proudly where you will see it every day.
StillrunningNLM I LOVE that tshirt! so funny!
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Gold - great tips for a beginning runner! And I love your statement that it's what you do for YOU - I think that's something we all need to learn to do. After all, we're worth it!
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Wow, this is def where I need to be for encouragement, now just to take the first step!
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Nettie -YOU CAN DO IT!
You may be interested in this article. It is called, "Start Running in 5 Easy Steps" by Jeff Galloway. He is the author of The Starting Line, tips for beginners from an easy going coach in Runner's World magazine. Become a Runner in 5 Easy Steps Enjoy!
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Gold linings advice is good! dont worry about pace etc etc.. doing things gradually will make it easier for you body to adjust.. walk when you need to and you will find if you stick with it you will be able to run for longer times without walking etc. Does have to be a big event to get going.. you can do it even if you walk most intially you have to start somewhere
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Hi Nettie - great advice from everyone!
I am 60 and started running so long ago that running shoes weren't invented LOL. I remember ditching my Keds for my first Nikes (bright green) and feeling like I was floating on air!
I may have been running for years, but it is so much more to me than a time on a board at the end of a race. While I was a young working girl it helped me to have something to look forward to at the end of the day, a nice social run with friends. When I was a young mother, going out in the morning helped me plan my day and set me up for a less stressful day. I didn't do any races till I was in my forties and built up to it slowly. The half is now my favorite distance. I did one marathon to check it off my bucket list and that was enough for me. I have always been a slow runner, love running outdoors and looking around and enjoying the beautiful place that I live and the wonderful places I visit. The great thing about running is that you can do it anywhere, you just need your shoes and a good bra and shorts!
Good luck on your running journey and check in with us. We are all here to support you!
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I only started running last year. Never ever ran in my life. I completed the C25K and still incorporate the walk/run training mode.
I completed 4 5Ks, 1 10K and 5 miles of a 10 miler (Only stopped because of a bad sprain, sustained in the first half mile) I do not advise running that far on a bad sprain-the adrenaline kept me going that far!
I have slacked and redid the C25K. I am a week behind, however, I am ready to complete the 9th week. I did walk (very fast) last week.
If I can run, even a little bit, I believe anyone can.
So go Nettie!
And sharing this years theme from the Boston Marathon

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http://www.buzzfeed.com/erinchack/thoughts-every-j...
This link is hilarious!
"75 thoughts every runner has"
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Saw that video and read the 75 things today on FB.. good stuff
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Nettie, I am 58. I tried running a few times decades ago, but quit because my knees hurt. It's funny to think that over twenty years ago I quit because of the knee pain and figured I was just too old. Oh how I wish I had persevered. I like to think I could be an awesome runner today! Meanwhile my husband has been running for over twenty years and has run marathons, half marathons and 5 Ks.
I decided a few month ago to try it again. I learned that strengthening my quads (at the gym on the the weight machines) and stretching my hamstrings and calves as well as getting the right kind of running shoes (I learned that I underpronate) could help prevent knee pain.So far so good. I go out and run every other day, one mile at a time, although I can run longer on a treadmill, but it's boring. I'm hoping to work up from this, but my biggest goal is just not to quit! Both my daughters took up running a few years ago. They are 41 and 32.
I got myself an industrial strength running bra because I'm a double D and after my lumpectomy and radiation, it is painful for the scar tissue in my right breast to bounce around too much.
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Nettie, see if you have a Fleet Feet in your area. They have a program called No Boundaries. It's a couch to 5k type of program that has mentors that I did at 41, and now both of my teenage daughters are doing as a first step to running. I've since run several 5ks and 3 half marathons (scheduled to run my 4th in early June). If you don't have that, if you have a smart phone you can download couch to 5k apps. I think having a running buddy is key-it helps hold you accountable. All of the previous advice you've gotten is fantastic as well!! Welcome!
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I ran for the first time on Thursday since my little whirlwind began back in mid-February. I felt very emotional, but kept it together as I was with the running group. Running is part of my peace. It's my time to go deep or stay steady in the moment. Running does even more for me emotionally/mentally than physically. It felt so damn good to be back to it.
I was worried about my left breast not wiggling/jiggling too much and found myself partially holding my arm against it to help prevent that. I'm a 36D, and as good as some of my running bras are, right now I want even more support.
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ChristyJ, I found that the Enell Sport bra provided the support I needed for my poor cut up & radiated DD right breast. I've worked up to 1.5 miles now.
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Thanks, Annie, I'll have to look into that.
I ran 4 miles on Sunday after running for the first time on Thurs. Sunday I doubled up on sports bras to make sure the girls weren't jiggling.
I'm 1 month out from a lumpectomy, but I'm a little bit worried. Sat. night I had a hard time getting comfortable in bed with laying on my stomach/side, then on Sunday I noticed I'm a little swollen near my incision (they went in deep-in by my chest wall-and I think the swelling is in the path area of how they went in).I've read that there can be periodic swelling, but of course I'm worried about the correlation with running. Has anyone had a similar experience?
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Yes, my incision is sometimes a groove, with swelling on both sides. I chalk it up to lymphedema, and I massage it. I am not so great at the massage, but from what I recall, you massage the nearby node areas, then lightly massage the swollen surface toward the nodes. I really don't know how that is supposed to work with swelling on a DIEP flap, where if I imagine myself to be lymph fluid, how am I going to get across that scar? But I do it anyway. I also sleep in compression shirt or vest. The shirt seems more effective (just a runner's compression shirt, long sleeve) than the compression vest I got from the LE equipment place, but the vest works in hot temperatures.
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the Jamestown 10k in RI on Sunday was awesome! The sky was a clear bright blue, the sun was shining bright despite the cool breeze and the views were amazing. I finished in 1 hour and 2 minutes and was very happy with the result. I ran about 2 minutes faster a mile than I was hoping for and felt strong doing it
I did feel very tired when I was done and all of yesterday, but I was expecting that. I was on the track team in high school and then ran on and off for years. (Mostly to be able to pass the physical agility to become a police officer). I went back to running 10 years ago as a way to conquer the weight gain I was experiencing. I spent 8 months training to run a local marathon. I finished the 262. miles in 4 hours and 35 minutes and was very proud that I had completed it. Since then, I have completed 3 half marathons, several 5ks and 10ks and 4 sprint triathlons. I felt like I had the best all around fitness the year that I trained for the triathlons. Changing from swimming (translation - not drowning) to biking to running allowed me to workout harder more days a week. I took a summer off do to a family situation last year and I have to wait until may I am cleared at my May 5th follow up before I can go into chlorinated water. Running and excising has meant many things to me over the years - feeling strong when I finish a difficult run, time to thing and sort things out while my body works out, feeling alive and so much more. I will continue to run as long as I can, and then I will walk. I hope those of you who are just starting out build slow so you can remain healthy and strong and enjoy the sport for a long time ti come
I hope everyone had a great weekend!
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StillrunningNLM-Congrats on having a great race!
ChristyJ- awesome getting back with running group and getting the run in!
I went out on a running bra hunt this weekend and bought the Athleta Hullabraloo bra but I'm not convinced it is the right one yet. I actually went back to my old Target Champion running bras and found that my newer ones (aka not stretched out) did a really good job overall, so I may just stick with those. I'm finding that the ones made for running or more support to be heavy on material, extra padding-even in the straps, and just more constricting overall, which I guess is the purpose but I don't Iike how it feels.
My PS said I could start running again this past Friday, 2 weeks after exchange surgery. I tried on Friday and discovered I needed a new running bra for more support so that didn't last very long but I went Saturday and did 2 miles, Sunday 3 miles, and today another 3 miles! Both PS and PT said I'm cleared to resume all working out but to let my body guide me on what it can take. So this afternoon, I met some co-workers at the track and incorporated some lunges, stair climbs, planks, mountain climbers and arm dips! The arm dips did feel a little different as my pec muscles contracted but just the fact that I could do them made me so excited. I only did one set of each so I'm not in too much pain tomorrow:) I'm just so thankful and grateful that I can still do these types of workouts and looking forward to building from here.
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Hi Everyone -
I need your help and advice. Prior to chemotherapy I ran at least five miles a day and often much more. A couple weeks into chemo and I was so sick that I decided to just make certain to do an hour of light cardio everyday. I finished chemo three weeks ago and decided this week to try running. Day #1 I ran for one minute and was wiped out. Day # 2 I managed 2 minutes. I've taken breaks from running before but I was always able to get right back to it. WTH! This is incredible. Can anyone give me advice on how to get back to running and an estimate of how long it normally takes?
Thanks in advance.
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Warrior - good for you for getting back out there! I did not go through chemo so I can't give you a sense of how long it takes to get your endurance back. But I do know runners who went through chemo and are back out there running distances, so it does come back.
Congrats Aloha!
ChristyJ - I had swelling and pain post lumpectomies, and had difficulty finding a comfortable position to sleep in for a while. It gets better (are you going through rads?), though there are times even now when my scar site aches and is tender. Try keeping your arm elevated above your head for a bit when you get back from a run; and yes, if you can stand it, massage the area a bit. A cold compress might help a bit also. FWIW, post lumpectomy and for what I could run through radiation, I just doubled up on sportsbras as I didn't want to invest in anything new until I was done and healed from treatment. I'm a huge fan of the Moving Comfort Juno bra - it's an over your head kind. You might checkout HerRoom.com or TitleNine.com, both of which have good return policies.
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Warrior, I had the same thing after finishing taxotere, I noticed that was one of your chemo drugs. I'm convinced it's the drug and trust me when I say it does get better. I could barely run for a minute at a time without my legs feeling so sore and heavy. My cardio was decent but the legs would just not cooperate. That was at about two-three weeks after my last treatment. I has also having major leg pain when I was going up stairs, could barely manage one flight. I found it took 6-8 weeks after my last treatment for that feeling and pain to go away. I had surgery four weeks after my last chemo so I was forced to take a break from running. When I got back at it, it was much better. I built my distance back up by alternating running and walking, and my long runs are up to 10k now and I got back to running in January. I'll be increasing over the summer too. It will get better, it just takes a bit of time. I know that is probably the last thing you want to hear right now
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Congrats, Aloha! One note of caution - have you been doing upper body work all along, or are you just getting back to it? If you're just getting back to it, you please be careful about the planks, arm dips, and other upper body weight bearing work - since you've had nodes out you're at increased risk for lymphedema, and doing too much too soon could put you at risk for triggering LE. You may want to start with light hand weights and minimal reps, and build up some strength before you start bodyweight-bearing exercises like planks, arm dips, push ups, etc. Step Up Speak Out has a great brochure on developing a safe exercise program that minimizes your risks of LE: http://www.stepup-speakout.org/Handout%20doc%20fo...
Sadly, too many surgeons are minimally trained about LE, and don't give patients enough education about LE and LE risk reduction measures. A recent study showed that even among women who only had a SNB, between 12-25% of them developed LE within 5 years of their surgery. Taking a few precautions now could save you from a lifetime of dealing with LE.
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Oncearunner - Actually, that is exactly what I want to hear. Running is my thing and I would be devastated to give it up. I have surgery in a couple weeks and once I am healed up I will hit the trail and do the run/walk/run/walk. Your description is exactly what I am experiencing and I am glad to know I can make a come back and it won't take years.
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Natsfan-Thank you for the information! My BS said 1 to 2 % chance but I knew from reading on this board that it was important to address and to take into consideration for SNB. I really wanted to avoid the SNB all together but knew if something additional was found that I would have regretted that decision. I have been doing upper body work with my PT before my last surgery and I did try to take it slow yesterday but it felt so good to be able to do it that your message is a good reminder not to push too much, too soon. I feel good today. My legs are a little sore from the lunges. taking today off to assess and then will get another run in the morning and try for another workout in the afternoon.
Warrior_woman-you inspired me back on the december surgery thread (I admit I didn't post but did a lot of reading) when you started running after your BMX. I was a couple of weeks behind you and impatiently wondering when and if I would be able to run with the TEs. Thank you:)
Hope everyone is doing well and getting Spring weather to walk or run in!
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Lovestorun-I was lucky in that my mass was benign. They found LCIS, so I'll be going on Tamoxifen at some point in the near future. My mom had breast cancer (55), her sister had it (at 44), and my grandmother was diagnosed with it when she was in her 80s. Mom had genetic testing done back in 2003, but it was before the full testing was available. So she's in the process of doing that now. We're waiting to find out her results because if she's positive, I'll get tested. And if I were to test positive, I'd have the prophylactic mastectomy. BUT... I'm not worrying about that right now.
I'm just happy to be running again.
I ended up calling my surgeon's office. They told me to go back to wearing support at night, being extra careful about support when I run, and ice. Thanks for the additional advice! I need to get training for my half marathon 6/8!Aloha-I'm up in Saratoga Springs, NY, and we're FINALLY getting some decent weather. Rumor is that it may even get up to 70 degrees next week! Exciting!
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warrior wom.. i had the same thing and had to stop running during chemo, changed to swimming for a bit and then ended up walking. I did what you are doing now, about a month after chemo finished i started the run/walk thing and it didnt take that long to be about to comfortable run 5k and i just kept increasing from there, i was able to run everyday through rads, just had to take a long nap in the afternoon. Stick with iand try to be patient and listen to your body.
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This gives me hope. After my surgery I will start with running again. Hopefully it won't be an impossible challenge by that point.
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Warrior - allowing your body to heal will help you get back to the things you love. I know it is hard to be patient, but it is worth it.
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I kept my promise to myself and ran 4 miles when I got home from work yesterday. It felt good and was worth falling sleep early last night. Taking the day off from running to do chores. I am hitting the road for a 12 mile run tomorrow. The Ion Bank half marathon, 4/27, is in site
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Nettie1964- I started running at 35 doing
the couch to 5K programs. I was up to 8 miles before diagnoses. I ran though chemo until I got the flu. You
are never told old to start running. I have a friend who started running at the
age of 60. Jell-O feeling will go away.Warrior_Woman-I
had muscle fatigue and did a 5K four weeks after my last chemo. I could barely run a 1 mile. I ended up walking 2 miles and had my worst
time. I meet a friend who said, how many other people just finished chemo and
would be out here. Not bad considering chemo caused me anaphylactic allergic
reactions. I’m having to wear
compression socks on long trips 6+ hours driving now. I will be going for my “full spay” on thursday and will
be out of exercise plans of running for another 6 weeks. I know the feeling of
when will this ever end. Warrior-Woman start out slow and listen to
your body. Don’t get discourage with
the times on the clock. Remember keep moving and that you are doing better than
the person on the couch. -
Running for me is about sanity. It is the one and only time I can let my mind wander wherever it wants to go without interuption. I don't have to worry about my kids, my job, my unfinished yardwork, or laundry, money, extended family, the long shift I am working today. Nothing ... I can watch the sunrise and think about how lucky I am to be able to be outside running. On my worst days after surgery my early morning walks were what held me together.
groovygirls - good luck in boston.
I have a few events coming up, as always, but the biggest one is Broad Street 10 miler on May 4th. Still can't break the time I ran before surgery but manage to stay in the same ball park.
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