what to tell my 12 year old son
I could really use some advice and perspective on this.
My son is 12 and has always been mature. Like 12 going on 45. And slightly uptight at times.
Have NO idea where he gets that from. ; )
All I have told him so far is that I am having surgery and some tissue removed in my chest region. He does not know it is the entire breast, or that is DCIS or the Big C. I wanted to save big conversations until right before/right after surgery so he wasn't stressing for a whole month.
My mom will be around before and after surgery, along with my husband.
Did you tell you kids before or after surgery? What did you say?
Did you allow them to see you off before surgery or send them to school?
And lastly, with boys, did you feel the need to conceal your unbalanced-ness from them, once you were up and around? (clothed, of course, but I mean did they see you dressed, but with no foob)
I hope this makes sense. My brain is already on medical leave I think.
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MellaBella: Sorry you have to deal with this issue on top of having breast cancer. For most of us, the well-being of our family seems even more important than our own. If your son is mature beyond his years, he is likely more aware of things already. He may even be worrying about trying to protect you! I believe strongly in honesty with children and I have been a counselor for 31 years. I just returned to work as my radiation just completed. While off work, I still maintained a cooking class for my teens. They ranged in ages from 11 years to 13 years. They asked questions and were curious (peeking at my chest area) about my body. These are at risk youth and I was so imprressed that I never received even a remotely inappropriate comment. I received lots of hugs and stories about family members they knew who had cancer. I assured them that I would be ok (I am very important to some of these youth as they have no responsible adults other than teachers in their lives).
My own son is now an adult, but he loved the fact that I did not hide my flat side and when you cuddle, you feel so much closer as there is no breast to get "in the way".
If we are ok with our bodies, then others will be too. I cannot tell you how many people have thanked me for how I have handled my situation at work; with complete honesty, openness and optimism. I have not received a single negative comment, but remember, I work in a supportive environment for the most part.
Your son just needs to know that you are ok. Cancer is a disease, but not a deadly disease in most cases. Like me, you have a very early stage cancer and your son will understand that if you explain the difference to him. He is likely very sensitive to your needs and keeping things from him will likely cause more stress and anxiety, even though you mean well. My son gently touched me on the chest with love. Acceptance is such a powerful and healing tool. All the best to an obviously wonderful mother! xxxx
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Hi Mellabella,
In addition to the helpful advice from TB90, you may be interested in reading the main Breastcancer.org site's page on Talking to Older Children and Teens. There's some good tips there, too.
We hope this helps!
--The Mods
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Thanks for that! The only question he has had so far about my "tissue removal" is
"are you going to look different?"
And I thought ... oh tweens/teens. sigh. But that is OK. Not easy to answer, but ... OK.
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Didn't have a mastectomy and have girls, not boys, so can't empathize completely, but will share my experience telling my kids (at the time ages 12 and 9) for what it is worth. My mother was diagnosed about 6 weeks before me with multiple areas of both Stage 1 and DCIS, and had a mastectomy, so first I told them about that. I explained that she had breast cancer, that the doctors would have to remove one of her breasts, but that she would be fine afterwards because they had caught it early. They then saw her at Thanksgiving dinner (I was diagnosed 2 days prior, but hadn't told anyone yet), so they could see that she was up and around and doing well. The next day, I sat them down and told them that I myself had been diagnosed. I explained (at the time I didn't know about the micro-invasion, just the DCIS), that while I did have breast cancer, it "wasn't the kind that could kill you" but that because it could eventually turn into that kind, it would need to be treated. The nine year old didn't ask too many questions, although eventually she asked why, if the surgery had removed the cancer I still needed the radiation. They had just studied cells in school, so I explained the concept of an escaped "rogue" cell, and she understood that fine. The 12 year old wanted more details, and wanted to know what it meant for her risk going forward, so we talked about that a bit. Neither one was particularly upset - I think having just seen Grandma go through it helped them not see it as a big scary thing. I did the best I could while going through surgery and rads to keep everything as "normal" as possible for them, and when a few months ago the now 13 year old had to answer a school question about the worst 3 things that had ever happened to her, my cancer didn't even make the list! (Which I was a little bit miffed about to be honest). Oh, and my mother rarely wears a foob, so they have seen her looking lopsided and haven't really mentioned it to me, other than the older one asking me if I thought Grandma would wear a foob to her Bat Mitzvah, LOL.
Just re-read your post, and saw the question about whether they went to school or not. They did - actually we got them up, but they saw themselves off to school while DH took me to the hospital in the morning. I ended up staying overnight because I had a bad reaction to some pain meds, and DH was with me until about 11pm, so the kids were pretty much on their own that whole time, although I did have a friend take the younger one to/from gymnastics, and DH was in frequent touch with them on the phone. We had thought I would be home much earlier, so didn't realize it would be such a problem, but first the surgery was delayed by several hours because of an emergency surgery that needed the OR, and then with the med reaction by the time I got over that it was so late at night that they just admitted me for the night. DH got the kids up the next morning, took them to school and then came and got me from the hospital, so I didn't see them from the time they left for school the day of surgery, until they got home the next day. I was more upset about that than they seemed to be
They're pretty independent kids and had been home alone together on previous occasions.
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When and how to tell my son was a hard decision for me too--we wanted to give him enough time to think about it and ask questions, but not so much that he had a long time to worry. He was six, so a good bit younger than your son. We told him about a week before surgery, and that seemed to be about right for us, not too far ahead, but enough. His only experience with surgery and hospitalization was last summer, when my mother was in the hospital with terminal colon cancer and died, so we wanted to reassure him that going to the hospital did not mean I was going to die, but that the doctor needed to be able to examine the cells in my breasts and make sure all of the cells were the healthy kind (I know that's probably way oversimplified for your bigger boy
). We used anatomical terms, mainly because that's what we do anyway, so we talked about what a mastectomy is, and how it would happen (I would be asleep and the doctors would remove them, and my son thought they snapped off anyway LOL not sure where that idea came from!). I reassured him that he could talk to me anytime while I was in the hospital, and the people who took care of him assured him of this too, and it worked out that we were only apart for three nights. When we were back together, he had a lot of questions and was fascinated by the drains and how they worked. (If he had needed to see me while I was in the hospital, that would have been fine, but he didn't.)
Today is nine weeks since surgery, and I have a mastectomy bra and inserts, but usually don't wear them. He thinks they're pretty funny (I do too lol). He still thinks of questions about them, and sometimes asks me to tell him the story of the time I had my breasts removed so the doctors could check for crazy cells. He told me a few nights ago that when he first saw me after I got out of the hospital he was glad to see that I looked the same, and then he paused and said, "Well, you looked the same in the face. But you looked different in your body because your breasts were gone." He's pretty matter-of-fact about it, and that works for him.
He did go to school. We live a couple of hours away from the hospital and doctors I used, so he stayed with a couple of different friends, which was a treat for him, and then someone brought him to us after school on Friday (surgery was Wednesday). I let his teacher know what would be going on so she could give him some extra TLC as needed, and so she would have some context if he asked her questions. I didn't want him to miss school, and didn't want him to see me immediately after surgery since I didn't know how I would be, and I didn't want him to be scared if I didn't seem like myself. (I was fine, and would have been fine seeing him and not scary, but didn't have any way of knowing beforehand, and I think it was good for him to have his regular routine.) Your son's age may make that completely different.
Good luck with however you talk about it, and good luck with your surgery.
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Well; I have a son. Granted, he is 37 and not 12, but I do remember him being 12. I would say this. Tell him you have had a scare, but that you will be fine (which is true). Tell him you will look a bit different, but not so much as anyone will notice. A 12-year-old's questions about how you will be are about that, of course, but really about will you live? I think that's the real underneath question. Even with my son. He is older, mature, supportive, but, at the end of the day, he's really just a 12-year-old asking his mum if she will be there; I can tell. I would give him the most basic physical stuff, but really concentrate on the real stuff. The fact that though you have had a minor BC, you are lucky, and the future looks great. That life will go on, after a bit of a to-do, as normal, which it will. Mostly, don't let him wonder and be unsure. Something he can feel but not have explained (comforted about) is worse. There is nothing like a mother and son relationship. Don't make him your partner in this, though he is mature, as was my son at that age. Tell him it's a thing, an unpleasant thing, but that unpleasant things happen, and a lot of the time (and in your case) the unpleasant thing is going to be OK.
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Thanks everyone. That's very helpful!!
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My daughter was 4 when I was diagnosed. We thought we were doing a good job of keeping it under wraps until we realized that she knew more than we realized and was connecting the dots in ways that made her think I was going to die soon! I told her that the doctor found something in my breast that could make me sick later, so we were taking it out now so I would never get sick. There was no hiding my body post-BMX (will I ever go to the bathroom alone?), so she saw all the drains and incisions. She still likes to give me a thumbs-up that my breasts are looking good 2 years later.
She was an amazing source of healing for me, tucking me in, tiptoeing in to check on me while I recovered. I learned that kids can handle a lot. Your son sounds like a very responsible guy that will be a big help to you post-surgery. He may relish that role! Best wishes to you all.
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MellaBella, the only thing I would add is a suggestion that you tell your son before your mother arrives so there's no problem of hiding anything or, worse, overheard conversations. You want to be able to speak freely after she gets there, with no secrets.
Best of luck with your treatments.
Leah
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And please try to answer all his questions. News like this is often discussed with friends and classmates who will all have horror stories about breast cancer to tell him. He needs the truth from the beginning. If one of your doctors has an extra bit of time to talk to your son, that could help offset the rumors and inaccuracies of his buddies.
Hugs and warm wishes,
Carol
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I do not have my own children, but am very close to my nieces and nephews. I would strongly encourage you to be as open and honest with your son as possible and as soon as possible. Explain the stages of BC to him and that you are at stage 0. Make sure that he knows that he can ask you anything. I'll tell you why I am saying this, after my mastectomy, my nephew who was 14 at the time came in and was laying in bed with me and he said, "I heard they took your lung out too, is that true?" I don't know where he got this idea, but I do know that it's better to have kids get there information from you & know you're being honest with them than from somewhere else. I told him what the surgery was and that he could see it when it had healed up a bit (it was bandaged at the time). This is especially true since you have DCIS - if he suspects cancer & then he won't realize that you have a cancer that's completely treatable and that you will not die from. As far as going flat around the house - I had an implant so that wasn't an option but I would think that you need to be comfortable & that your children of all the people in the world should know you as who you are. I met a woman once who told me that she got up early every morning so that neither her husband or kids would see her without makeup ever. I felt so bad for her - what a terrible strain. Your son will be alright - he's has you there & you love him - ultimately that is what is important for a 12 year old or a 20 year old.
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Be as honest as you can but also emphasize the positive. Give facts that can help put it into perspective for him.
I explained the stage scale and that mine was considered stage 0. How the doctors were very happy about that and sure that it would be taken care of. I explained that I saw several doctors and did several tests and everything/everyone agreed that this was curable. I went to a top cancer center in the country so I used that fact too -- Mommy's hospital is one of the best in the country (even showed my son who was the most doubtful an article listing it as # 1 or # 2 in the country).
Also I was a double DD and had BMX, but I never explained any of that. I wore sweatshirts so I didn't feel like they could tell too much what was going on. I looked different, but they werent that worried about that. That was more of a none issue. I never said mastectomy or anything specific like that. Just "surgery" and that the doctors were going to remove the bad cells and more cells around the bad cells. That was fine with my kids. (I think they would have been more traumatized if I explained the BMX.)
They were 11, 12 and 14 at the time. What the exact surgery was and what I looked like seemed not that much of concern. They wanted to know about the cancer, that I was going to live, and that I didn't need chemo. Those things seemed like what they needed to talk about.
Hope that helps! Good luck.
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I recently read the book "The Silver Lining" and in it there is a chapter dedicated to ways in discussing dx and tx based on age. My kids are 15 and 17, so it was much easier for me, but I think that book would be a good resource. Actually, I highly recommend the book for a lot of reasons. She also has a website,
http://www.thesilverpen.com/ which has a lot of great info and inspiration as well.
Good luck to you and your family.
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Thank you all! I have been very open with him and very positive and he has handled it surprisingly well and with maturity. I ask him every few days or so if he has any questions or concerns and he always says no. He seems at peace with it. : )
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