How vain are you?

Momine, Kim Novak was a "presenter" at the Oscars, she looked so awful, terrible, just terrible plastic surgery, her face really looked, well, not properly formed, all out of proportion. SO sad, still remember when "movie stars" aged, and still looked, well, human.

Used to be plastic surgery made women look like snapping turtles caught in a wind tunnel, ala Joan Rivers, now the craze seems to be for HUGE lips and puffy cheeks, literally chipmunk cheeks.  I really don't get it.

There was a local story not too long ago about new "lift" enhancer (my term - know prof. term must be better) injected into cheeks. Personally I could tell very little was done in before/after shots but interviewee was happy with results. Maybe Goldie has overdone the injectable. I did not see her, only about last 1/2 hour waiting for the news which was later than advertised. Thought the glimpse of Meryl Streep in audience was nice - aging well. My kind of woman.

Or how about Maggie Smith?

Don't know this new person Lupita? But is Angelie Jolie pregnant? Didn't watch the event but did check out Kim and Goldie because of above comments. DEFINITELY cheek fillers for Kim but the internet IS blasting her for them. Goldie has a cottage up here and hates the fact that Canadians don't care. We have enough stars of our own; on TV and not in our eyes!! Celebrities think they are only from Hollywood.....sheesh! I used to like Goldie and admire her until I heard the comments she made about being "ignored" at her cottage up here. She'd sure be complaining if everyone was beating down her door! I think we are all inundated with enough celebs to not over react when we see them. I agree that a well-aging man or woman is a thing of beauty! I've earned every laugh line!!

(And yep, remember having to secure the handset of a phone into the top of the "processor" on the computer.) Kids wouldn't believe the stuff we used to do if they saw it today. How will I explain 8-tracks to my grands???

Cher is another ridiculously "preserved" older woman. They kind of become parodies of their younger selves.

Eva Marie Saint was on CBS Sunday Morning this week & she still looks classy & lovely.

well I admit I have considered having some work done (before I was DX and everything changed) .

I wanted one of those neck lifts you see all over the tv but I am worried it would feel like I was being choked all the time. It probably doesn't, but with my luck it would.

But actually for years I have considered Botox and filler for the deep scowl lines between my brows. Less for vanity and more for people to assume I am mad or annoyed all the time, when I really am very happy.

Strangest thing happened after my lumpectomy in December:

I have hated how I looked since gaining weight the past few years and took extreme measures to cover up. Not anymore. I think my husband is in shock at how I just don't care anymore and will get dressed and undressed with the lights on. 

I am just so happy to be alive, the rest is gravy!! Or if you prefer, icing lol!!

Melissa, I had the same experience of peace while being sick. I laugh at myself over it, but I seriously have the best memories of that time.

Plastic surgery, I am not ruling anything out. I have opted out of breast recon, but would love to get the yucky, extra skin on my belly removed. I could also be tempted to smooth the frown lines one day, maybe. It amuses me to imagine the PS visit where I explain that I don't want new boobs, just a smoother belly.

I did Botox in my late 40's. It was fantastic, I loved how it would kick in over a few days and it was like the crows feet were ironed out and the 11's just disappeared. I found that after the first couple of treatments I didn't need to go back for ages because I don't think the muscles ever really snapped back to where they were originally. The effect was really good and cumulative for a long time.

I have  lines now, but not so deep, I am 60 so I feel I have earned them too. My hair is a natural platinum white, so I don't color and haven't since my 30's when I realized that my hair was going white and not really grey.

I just want to advance into old age looking as well groomed as I can, and won't embarrass my Daughter!  LOL

Neck?  Is that the roll underneath my chins?

The one thing that annoys me is my eyebrows "lowering". I have slanted "cat-eyes" and never had a lot of eyelid anyway.  Makes my eyes looked closed-up & tired.

Ariom, you are so very lovely in so many ways.   And I agree with the ladies on this thread that maintaining grace and good grooming while letting the body and face age naturally is so much more preferable than chasing an impossible quest for youth.   I do think that there is something to be said for the "age" of our minds that can project a youthful perception to others.  Staying up on pop culture, new technology, the latest fashions, making changes to our hairstyles project that we are changeable...not stuck in an era.  I definitely look 64, and have never had plastic surgery, but most people would say that I don't look 64 and I think it is because I don't act 64.  I wonder what others think about this.

MsP

Thank you MsPharoah you have me blushing!

I couldn't agree more about the beautiful older women that have been mentioned here, but it has always been that roles were rare for women after a certain age. I for one am glad to see more of the likes of Helen Mirren and Judy Dench on the screen.

When it comes to ones own aging, I feel just as you do about taking care of yourself and "keeping up". I surprise myself at times when I am reminded of my advancing years, I don't feel any different than I did in my 30's.

I have to say though, I was in the City one day, years ago and I got out of the car and entered a large building, the man in front of me pulled open the heavy door and then just let it go. It was a defining moment for me, as ridiculously, silly as it may sound, I was suddenly aware of my age. I had never had a man, not hold open a door for me. You could say, he was just rude or bad mannered, but it struck a cord in me that being in your 50's was when the changes were becoming apparent.

I certainly haven't had every door slammed in my face since, but I have never forgotten that moment either.  

Ariom.....interesting that the door slamming was sort of a wake up call.  I got mine when I decided to go wigless after chemo.  Started out going wigless on weekends and evenings.  Each time I would return home my husband would ask "How did it go...were you self conscious?"  No one really noticed me, so my answer to him was...."I did fine...easy peasy!".  I haven't told him that it went well because "older women are invisible".  (sigh) 

But on a cheerier note, I had my first post active-treatment follow up scans on Monday and they are clean...the best I can hope for.  And I am also not thinking about cancer all the time.  I am enjoying this thread and picking up good tips on how to be a really "hot momma", or should I say "hot gramma"!

MsP

I made the decision a while back no surgery, no fillers....going to take care of myself, eat well, take care of my skin, wear hats in the sun, and just be the best me possible.  Even good surgery eventually goes bad and then you have a pulled look in some parts and droopy in others...definitely not the look I want.  I'm in my late fifties, embracing growing older, and avoiding mirrors that are lit with fluorescent lights.

I make no judgments on those who go for it....just not for me.