How often do you wear your sleeve/gauntlet?
I'm just wondering. Are most of you all able eventually to wean off wearing compression constantly? Over the last 7 months I've gotten to wear I only wear my sleeve w activity. My arm is still slightly larger than the other. But it's not too noticable. I measure everyday & seems to be stable except on occasion will flare up a little. I'll wear my sleeve for a few hours & will go back to 'normal'. I also pump before I go to bed. What is your experience?
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Very basically - I eother have my day garmemts on or my night garmemt on 24/7. I also run my FexiTouch daily (it's an hour program). Occasionally (for a special event) I will go without for a few hoirs ut not often. For me the moremactive I aam themless issies I have so summer is much easier as wimters are brutal here so I can't get out and do muchmdurong the winter - just workout in the gym. Will be so happy when/IF late Spring evermgetsmhere so I cam get and get back tto gmardenimg, mowing, riding ( my horses and my bicycle), flyfishing, boating and anything else that I think of.
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Sadly for me I've had to step up my sleeve and glove wearing time. Consistency of activity plays an important part but the reality is summer and winter can make that unworkable.
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Musical - "Reality" is not the same for all of us. I have no problems at all with getting "consistancy of activities" at all during summer. Winter is also consistant through out it - just not as varied, as much or as diverse, but it is consistant for the time frame. What 'works' for me quite probably won't work for you or others but it does for me. Just as what works for you or others might not work for me. Our "reality' is ours with there not being only one version of it as a "One Size Fits All".
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kicks I didnt say your reality was mine nor did I say a one size fits all. Obviously our winters and summers are varied depending on what part of the world youre in. I didn't say "does" but "can". It was meant as "may" or "might".
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I had written my reply of what I do/how I handle MY LE which is MY REALITY. In the next post you write/state that "but the reality is - - - " Your 'reality' and perhaps some others but it is not anymore 'reality' than I live - not THE REALITY for all.
The written word is occasionally not what was intended but - ?
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Awww...I hate to see misunderstandings that hurt feelings unintentionally. it's so easy to misinterpret and over-interpret online posts, because we can't see smiles and body language. We (and our lymphedema experiences) are all different, that's for sure, but everyone here just wants the best for everyone else. The richness of so many and varied perspectives has given me lots to think about and learn from.
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I think that acknowledging that we are all different is always important when it comes to all things bc and lymphedema is certainly one of them. Now, on to the original question. My LE has been very mild. I am anxious to keep it that way. I always wear my sleeve when flying and whenever something feels like it might aggravate the condition. I do MLD daily, drink gallons of water and am physically active. With that in mind, I hope you figure out what works best for you.
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I have started with LE in Sept. 2011. I have been told many encouraging stories of women who were able to wean off wearing their sleeves over time. Unfortunately for me, I swell if I go a day or night without the sleeve. I hope that with more time, it will improve, but I know for some, it never does.
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No kicks thats not what I meant as Ive tried to explain.
Carol, what youve said is right.
dancermom, it would be so nice if we could all wean off our sleeves! I used to be able to get away with just wearing my BC side sleeve for a couple of hours when doing activities but the swelling slowly progressed even though I tried to stick to the exercises and other advice I was given. Ive had varied success with wrapping. Ive found raising the arms, and fist pumps beneficial especially for aching.
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Sorry. Didn't wanna cause any problems. I'm just really curious. I only know 2 people (in my life) that have lymphedema. Both eventually didn't have to wear compression. But I see a lot different on here. I was just wondering how common it really was or wasnt. I have to say I'm terrified of mine getting worse. But mine seems so random. Sometimes I'll swell even with the sleeve for no reason. Other times I won't. Then I won't wear my sleeve & it will look soooo much better...then other days not so much. It's frustrating as hell.
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I am curious too. I think everyone has some randomness to it, or at least not understandable to them. I like the topic.
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Amoc, you haven't caused any problems. Its a good topic and I'm sure we all acknowledge it can be VERY frustrating, if not for us, then for others. There wouldn't be one of us who didn't want this to get better or go away completely.
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I think 'frustrating as hell' pretty much sums it up.
I have arm LE with a side dose of minor truncal issues, and of late I realize that the sluggish lymphatic system ALSO means that injuries anywhere else in the body cause an out-of-bounds swelling reaction. LE is systemic and I'm learning that it means I need to be on my toes from the toes on up. And throw predictability right out the window. What worked last week doesn't do a thing this week, or at least the speed or degree of relief is not the least consistent.
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It makes no sense to me. If this LE is so common...why don't I/we see it more? Am I missing something? Or is it that most people w/ it don't have to wear sleeves? Is this board just full of us guys that have more issues so we are on here asking questions & freaking out?
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I asked my PT that exact question. He said there is a wide range of the symptoms for LE. Told me a lot of people can get by with wearing a sleeve during activities and flying and things like that, but in my case, I needed to wear the sleeve constantly or my arm would swell.
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Amoc I hear you! Im likely across the globe from you and yet I don't see or hear of many people either. When I go to the town, I never remember seeing anyone in a sleeve. Maybe some people are really conscious of LE and become good at hiding their sleeves or just don't go out much, or only wear it at home. There *may* be a percentage in the throws of getting LE and just arn't aware yet because they dismiss a little aching or they dont see any swelling to speak of. This may carry on like this for a while til one day they overdo something or take a long plane trip somewhere of lift something heavy....next minute their arm blows up or they get some worse pain.
I was ASTOUNDED when my LEist who covers a wide area, effectively told me I was the only one of her patients who wrapped! I thought how could that be when some of the people LEist described sounded much worse than me.
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I should mention I've been a nurse for 20 years. I didn't know jack about LE before. I could count on one hand in 20 years the pts I've had w/ LE. Ive done a bit of everything too. So I was shocked & pissed when I got it. All my friends are nurses too. A lot of them have never seen it.. But atleast the 2 people I know had there's get better. One is a doc I know & initially her face even swelled. Now...no sleeve. And it's very very minimal. I just pray im like that. This sucks.
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Jane Armer is a well known LE researcher who has LE herself. Her estimate is that 40% of women who have breast cancer treatment will develop LE during their lifetimes. If one in eight women in the US gets breast cancer, that suggests that about 5% of women will get LE related to breast cancer.
Five of every hundred women is a bit hard to imagine. But keep in mind that a lot of LE is breast and truncal LE, which won't often have a person in an arm sleeve. So the 'badge' of LE isn't there. Many women don't wear sleeves all the time. I'm in the group that only wears the sleeve during heavy activity and while flying, because my symptoms are mild and I find that using a Tribute night garment works so well that it seems to keep swelling at bay during the day (knock on wood!). Even so, it's a good puzzle for why we're not seeing people with LE around us.
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I really am sleeve on, sleeve off constantly. It is on for working out, dancing, housework, travel, driving etc.
I do not wear it for formal events, or business meetings, interviews. Conventions are the hardest. I do wear it at work when I am not in public, or I can cover it with a winter coat or gloves.
I probably wear it about half of the workday, and 3/4 of my time at home.
I do wear something most nights, though every so often I can't deal with it wake up and take it off.
Obviously I am somewhat lucky, not all women could get away with "cheating" as much as I do.
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I wear mine during the day. My PT said I didn't have to wear it at night. However, I think I do. The swelling is slight, but my hand hurts and just uncomfortable. Lucky me the side of LE happens to be the hand I broke in three places as a teen. I didn't know you COULD wear it at night. So happy to hear y'all say that! My garment is lowest level from Lymphediva. PT says it is slight, but any given moment you can leave a mark on my arm. It like pregnancy cankles forever ugh!!
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I wear my sleeve when my arm is sore or obviously swollen. I fly quite a bit for work so wear it about 2 to 3 hours before my flight and another 2 to 3 hours after landing. Thankfully my LE is mild however I have it in my trunk as well and pretty much wear a compression cami 24/7. If I don't my upper back and under arm hurt all the time from swelling.
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jodi it is not recommended to wear daytime sleeve when sleeping. there is another type of garment called a night sleeve for those who need to wear compression at night.
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jodi, look at the Solaris and Jovi links on this page to see what night garments are like: http://stepup-speakout.org/Lymphedema_garments.ht...
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Jodi - Day garments and night garments work on different principles. Day garments are 'active' and night are 'passive'. Day garments are designed to work when the arm/muscles are active - 'awake time' in other words. Night garments are designed to work when the arm/muscles are 'passive' (not moving for long periods of time) - 'sleep time' in other words.
Seeing a CERTIFIED Lymphedema Therapist might be a good idea for you instead of some 'PT' who is telling you you 'don't have to wear your day garments at night' instead of suggesting a night garment if night compression is also needed.
As I have said often, I wear my custome Juzo almost every hour of up/doing 'stuff' time. At night, I wear my Solaris Tribute.
You said that you have hand pain and that you had broken several bones in hand years ago. Have you checked in to see if the pain is from developing arthris? There can be other issues going on at the same time as LE. A yr ago (Feb '13) when I broke my wrist (on LE side) and had to have surgery, I found out that I have arthritis in my hand. Never knew it (and still no pain from) but it's there on the x-rays. Just a thought you might want to look into if you haven't already.
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I have to either wear my sleeve, wrap or wear my Tribute night sleeve 24/7. I can go an hour or so in the winter only without the sleeve, but that's it. My arm begins to tingle and my shoulder hurts if I go any longer. It's been two years and the LE is worsening - just a little bit - but it is worse.
I'm always hopeful things will improve - but in the meantime, I try to be accepting of what is.
By the way - I was stage 1 and only lost 1 lymph node.
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Personal Trainer I know what you mean - I have been dealing with this for almost 3 years and was doing well until I got off my nerve pain med. It was causing brain issues. Anyway with pain comes swell and I am back in pain. The problem now, is that it went from my trunk and upper arms to add my wrist and hands. If I don't wear the compression I swell. Rebound swelling? I have no clue, just that now I HAVE to be compliant or suffer.
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Amoc, I do what you do. Wear it when I ride my bike, if I lift weights, and when I fly, that's it. Seems to work just fine.
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That's great kriserts! Everyone is so different. I guess the bottom line is do whatever works for you. I'm still curious to hear from more people.
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I wore compression religiously for 6 months after LE diagnosis, wrapping at night for the first three then donning a Solaris Tribute sleeve to sleep in. Pretty much gave up those modalities after weather warmed up in the spring, I got hot & sweaty, and the arm became infected. Rec'd oral antibiotics since we caught it at the "folliculitis" stage: little red dots all over, not full blown cellulitis.
Since I didn't notice additional extremity swelling during that treatment, I never really resumed wearing the garments except when on airplanes. I did experiment at times and found my preference was for athletic type shirts or shapewear to help with truncal edema.
The best thing has been the daily use of the Flexitouch pump although I left it at home during our recent trip and was fine! Doing water exercise in the hotel pool was somewhat therapeutic. I put on my purple gauntlet when attending cancer meetings as a signal/badge but don't get too many people asking about it...
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New to this, since the new year, and my therapist has me looking for compression bike shorts. Anyone else?
Anita
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