2014 Running Thread
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Way to go YoungTurk!
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Hello all...
I am struggling with myself now. I have lapsed in training since my diagnosis. I live near Chicago and we have been having a very brutal winter. I have previously run all miles out doors. I have a treadmill but it holds things..LOL. I ride a bike and train Slim in 6 or P90x style but I am having the arm pain too. It feels like intense pulling at the node incision site and light I have taunt tendons running up my arm. I think I will be about to run but Friday was just 2 weeks post op and I had huge breast swelling. I was afraid I might put my eye out! LOL No, seriously, I did not want to dislodge incisions. I plan to start Monday, run walk, using the damn treadmill. I was a huge distance runner and not running is hard for me but I guess I have to start over, just like the first time we all ran.
And Bobogirl, every day one step further is all you have to do. Run Walk is the BOMB for getting started!! Look at book, Running: Getting Started from Jeff Galloway. It is excellent. I used it to run my first marathon. It will work. There are excellent plans to follow in there and great, great information. I will start over with you!
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princessrn - it took me over 1.5 years to start running again granted I had three surgeries and 5 months of chemo in that time span. 2 weeks after surgery is still really soon - do not push yourself too hard yet so that you don't have issues at your surgery site which might delay you even more from getting back to running. Give yourself a couple of more weeks. After that you will get back up to speed!
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YoungTurkNYC that is so great! I am amazed you want to do 5 days a week of your top distance. Maybe you're a lot younger than me? I have been running no more than 4 days a week, generally 3 (when I manage to), since I was about 35 and a doctor told me you know, that's plenty. Training plans will generally differentiate the runs too--some shorter, some longer, some faster. Just thinking about this myself. Princessrn, I agree with YoungTurkNYC, easy does it. My surgeon said to give it two weeks, but I'm very small breasted and I had no swelling. Maybe you wait a little longer? Or just run walk and see what feels OK. I do think you should get the tight node incision looked at if it doesn't get better soon. A lot of us have had PT at that site and it really helps if done well.
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hi runfree16 - I am actually older than you - just turned 42. The 3 mile used to be a very easy distance for me. For now I will stick to it while I am increasing my pace, and then start increasing my distance. I am shooting for 5 times a week but if I can make only 3, I will still be very happy with myself!
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Woo hoo! So happy to have found this thread, and fun to see some of you from other threads. I am more of a mini "triathlete" (or biathlete - I avoid the swim whenever I can!) than a runner, but I did do a 1/2 marathon 3 months before dx last year. I like triathlons because I think of them as the "buffet" of exercise - just a little of each so I don't have to train too hard in any one area . I just started exercising again about 2 weeks ago (mostly hiking), and today was the first time on my road bike or running in almost a year. DH and I did an 11 mile ride, followed by a 2 mile run, and it felt amazing.
Goldlining, thank you so much for the recommendation of the shock absorber bra - I am still tender from rads and ran most of today with my elbow "cupping" my breast - too much jiggling! Can't wait to check out the website and hopefully get one ordered.
springlakegirl your video was amazing and so inspirational - and you are too adorable. Congrats on your achievements!
alaskamama I am going to check out your blog today…
Congrats to all of you for being the warriors that you are. We did not have a choice to get cancer, but we certainly have a choice whether or not to get back up after being knocked down.
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Congradulations to all your running accomplishments.
For all us in the cold/winter months that don't like treadmill run. I find this article to be good. I love running in 30-40 degree weather but with negative windchill's I"m afraid to go out and get sick. Stupid Cancer. I did find myself running a in my house for 1 mile the other day. The dogs were following me the whole time. This last chemo has zap my energy so anything longer kills my energy and my lungs.
Winter weather running.
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welcome ycats70! Looking forward to reading your runs.
I am still dragging from the flu. In fact my lungs are getting a little wetter and I have started to have the severe muscle cramping again. I need to be AOK in a month for my tune-up surgery! Definitely not out there courting irritation from the icy air. Wednesday I fly to Florida so will take shoes and see how it goes. May try to see the family physician before I go to see if there is anything else that will dry the lungs out.
:-P
Keep the run reports coming for those of us running vicariously!
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I am so deconditioned I have started the C25K all over again. I need to incorporate more core exercises. it has been a bitter winter. minus something or other almost every other day! Mood is lagging too and I know it would improve with moving more. TY for the article Fairydog. Will read it after I post. I have a WII and it has a stationary running sequence on one of the cds which I have used in the past. You can let it run in the background while watching tv. I am not sure of it's usefulness, but it is better than nothing at all. I am making friends with my treadmill after a very long hiatus. It was sunny today. I had my car in the shop and decided to walk over to the shopping center. The furthest point, about a mile, was a bookstore which I went to first. If your lungs don't constrict- you will feel the chill on your skin in about 3-5 min. I think I have a little weather burn on my cheeks. I didn't realize just how cold and breezy it was. Here's to warmer weather for those of us living in those chilly places and looking forward to an active running season....very very soon.
Hope those wet lungs clear Gold please take care and have a safe trip to FLA! Soak it for the rest of us.
Piper
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So after my first mile last sunday, I was so excited to have a week of great exercise...it didn't happen:( No yoga, no cycling, no more runs during the week or even walks...so sad. I think I over did it last Sunday. After my 1 mile run, I walked 4 miles later in the day and then washed my car. The rest of the week I was wiped out-went to work, came home, went to bed. I did meet with my PT twice and I'm counting that as my exercise these days:) PT gave me a good analogy of a circus tent and a person trying to pull and hold it up and explained that is what my back muscles are doing while I'm sitting at a desk in front of a computer at work, also dealing with the stretched pec muscles. Makes me feel a little better about being so tired. I need to be patient with this new body!
On a positive note, I did wake up this morning feeling better so I decided to go for a run and was able to get 3 miles in!!! And of course, I am already now plotting what else I can do this week to workout:) So maybe I'll try to add one new thing back this week and take it from there. I'm sure my body will let me know what it can handle.
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Great job aloha75 -- keep looking on the bright side. A run once a week and walking (for transportation) whenever I can is often all I can do, what with keeping up with work and trying to catch up for the work I missed, etc. And some days, PT definitely wipes me out as much as any regular trip to the gym!
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All you ladies ROCK! Am I the old one?! I am 47 soon to be 48. I run for a charity group. I was days away from signing up for the Chicago Marathon when I found out that I would be having chemo and not just radiation. I thought hey, I can train a bit before and until I can't and then rest a bit and start again. HA! Other plans I guess.
I always want to run the long distances and then when I get there I am looking at all the people on the sidelines with there Starbuck's and snacks thinking,"GAH! What was I thinking?!" So this May 31, my sister, who I conned into running will be running and I will be cheering with my Starbuck's and snacks! LOL. Actually, I am hoping to run her in the last 1-2 miles. This is a half marathon in South Bend, In at the Notre Dame Campus. You finish on the 50 yard line of the stadium. You know it girls, ME and Touchdown Jesus!!
I am glad to have found you all. I need running. I need to be connected to women who want to run while this is happening to them. I do, I need it, I want it and I won't let cancer take it from me.
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Psshh you're just a kid princessrn. Lots of us 50+. One of the benefits of timed running events (vs. running in training) is that at the end I can go on the interwebs and look up my official time, and my official age! The rest of the time, if pressed, I can tell you what year I was born, but can't remember my age any more.
Your second-guessing of signing up makes me think you'd probably like the slogan shirts from onemoremile.com that I see at the run expos. One says "this seemed like a good idea 3 months ago", and another says "I thought they said RUM".
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LOL Gold I am liking those shirt slogans.
I get that way about my age too but never forget my birthdate.
You should blog. You have a wonderful way with words.
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Nice try YoungTurk and princessrn--I am 50. FIFTY. Still wrapping my head around it. (I meant I was 35 when I gave up the idea of running every day. That was now quite a long time ago.) But I'm grateful to be in shape to run. I did 4 miles on my treadmill yesterday, very slowly. I have been having good luck with inspirational documentaries on my iPad while I'm on the TM. First I watched Spirit of the Marathon, the first one (there's a newer one) which I found for free, and then I watched IM Kona, then Usain Bolt: Fastest Man Alive (former sprinter here!). These seem to hold my interest pretty well so that I'm not constantly looking at the clock. I just have to find an endless supply of them....
Hi ycats! Just replied to you on another thread. Yes, check out alaskamama's blog!
Good advice from kayb about looking into cording, princessrn. I had a heavy, tingly arm yesterday after grocery shopping. Freaked me right out. I elevated it to about the level of my heart for 90 minutes while I was reading in the evening. It seemed to help, but I'm also going to try to get myself in touch with a real LE therapist. My local person is only partially trained. You must be a great lobbyist to get your sister to run instead of you! But bummer about the chemo. Is it because of the HER2+?
Goldlining, I'm so sorry to hear your lungs are not drying out. Flying isn't really ideal, I suppose--but Florida should help! I love those one more mile shirts too. I have the one that says "If you see me collapse, pause my Garmin." It's a bit dark, but it makes me laugh.
Way to go aloha! You'll get back, and sandpiper you too. We all will.
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princessrn - I see those people on th side lines with their Starbucks and it just gives me more motivation to finish faster so I can make my way over to Starbucks and get some coffee for myself
I think we all have various mantras we repeat to get us through hard runs and often mine is "coffee, coffee, coffee".
As for the One More Mile stuff, I was just going to comment on the "if you see me collapse, pause my Garmin". After my run yesterday I am so getting one of those at the next race expo I see them at. I went out for a run with my girlfriends and we decided to cross the Rideau Canal on the ice surface as opposed to the bridge that really steep. That's the great thing about winter, you can walk across frozen water. Normally the canal is well kept up for walkers/runners too, not just the skaters, so it's not like we were doing something completely crazy. Often we will run on the canal as opposed to the path beside it because the footing is better. Let's just say that yesterday the ice was beautiful for the skaters, not so much for the runners. I'm sure you all know where this is going! Just after stepping on the ice, I felt my feet slip from underneath me and the next thing I know is that I'm in the air, then flat on my back spread out like a starfish. First thing I did, before even getting up or responding that I was ok was stop my Garmin. Heck, my pace has taken a hit lately that I was not having it take a greater hit because I was sprawled out on the ice
I was lucky and not injured, so it's all good. After that it was a great run.
Hope everyone had a good run this weekend and welcome to all the new ladies.
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OK, Kids, I'm 60. SIXTY! That sounds so old, doesn't it? But I don't (usually) feel 60. Or is this what 60 feels like? Am I supposed to sit on the couch or continue to go out there and put one foot in front of the other? It's all attitude I guess. Have a great day, all!
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While I posted those two slogans for princessrn, the "stop my Garmin" slogan was the one that caught my eye (a friend has that one too, as well as the "there will be a day I cannot do this. This is not that day."). I also like "this IS my race pace" and "race strategy: start off slow, then taper off".
I don't feel "my age" either. I think it's being around university students all the time, and the playful subject matter area of my research and, well, "you're only young once, but you can be immature forever."
(I do blog and also tweet, but on those I am personally identifiable, alas, and am a fan of keeping support group stuff incognito.)
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Ha ha ha RunFree! Love the "stop my Garmin" slogan! On our ride Saturday I had a mild asthma attack and forgot my inhaler (I'm so out of the routine of exercising, and hadn't needed in for a whole year prior to dx) and so while DH was trying to calm me down and get me to breath right, I was fumbling with my phone trying to pause the "MapMyRide" app!
Goldlining, the "this is not that day" slogan is fabulous - I am going to look for that one and wear it to whatever my first post-dx event happens to be! Still trying to decide how much training to do before committing to an event...
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I love all of these slogans!!! And by the way ladies, we are never too old to run. There have been plenty of women (and men) who appeared to look twice my age who all left me in the dust in running competitions!! So, all the power to you who keep running regardless of age!
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gold
Once I do hope you are ok.....But I do luv that you stopped your Garmin.
Took my son to a couple of races in the fall. He laughed and said he thought it would be all his age group teens and 20 somethings. He said there are more people your age! LOL I just turned 48. And here I thought he was under the impression I was still in my 30's
Hugs all. Gonna be a long week and off to tread on the dreadmill
xoxoxo
Piper
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Haha lulu - I'm 60 also, and one of the benefits of being 60 is it bumps you into the next age class at most races!
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kayb, great question about strength training for your legs. Hotly debated, and someone else may weigh in with an opinion here. I often have a much better run after a little more rest. I think we do best when we advance our conditioning in distance, pace, AND consistency. In other words, some runs (maybe half of them or more) are just for the sake of consistency, some for pushing the pace, and some for pushing the distance. If you want to have a faster run (go ahead, call it "tempo") sometimes, that may be when you take an extra rest day ahead of it, stoke up on coffee, maybe run later in the day if you normally run early, and make it shorter than your norm. They just shouldn't all be that way. Then you can do a longer and decidedly slow run once a week, or less often if you want, because of course all of this is optional! Glad you had a good one!
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Oh this winter has been rough, hasn't it. Kudos to you in areas where it's regularly in the 10s, 0s or even minuses. All the SmartWool socks in the world won't get me out for a run in those temps.
RunFree - impressed that you can ipad and run on a treadmill. I tried it .... ended up knocking the ipad off of the little ledge, where it fell onto the treadmill with a very loud KERTHUNK! Followed by even louder expletives from me! Luckily, it survived the fall and I did not get thrown out of the gym for vulgar language.
Kayb - rest days are training days! My two cents: If you are just starting out, try not to get hung up on pace while you build up your endurance and get into a regular routine. The head of a local training program here emphasizes core exercises over leg strengthening. And stretching and foam rolling.
Speaking of which, someone asked a ways back what our running "go tos" are (Gold, I think it was you?): I love my Garmin, have a love/hate relationship with my foam roller, use a fuel belt for long runs, and am always well stocked in Nuun hydration tabs. SmartWool socks in the winter are the bomb. And I think chocolate milk makes for a mighty fine recovery drink.
Congrats to those of you who've recently gotten in some good runs, walks or combinations thereof; and to those of you who are sick or struggling, healing thoughts your way. -
Dear Ladies,
I just ran my first 5K since cancer diagnosis a year and a half ago. I am literally on cloud 9! Thank you to all of you. I come to this thread every morning, and I tell myself - I gotta run today!
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Yay YoungTurk! Wooooooo!
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Pat01, I know, I love it, winning age groups at the local races!!
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Aww man you guys are the best! This is just what I needed. I just need to run and not a 8:45 for marathon pace with friends. My girl is still swollen and although my garbage guys, the ones who see my at 4:30 am, might like the enlargement in general, Ia m being a good girl and waiting.
I see the surgeon tomorrow for followup. It is healing nicely but still swollen. Now the cord thing, I am 100% sure that it is cording. I have an appointment with a LE PT right near me. I am quite grateful for that and for noticing so that I won't have a delay in treatment.
I think every mile at any pace is great!!! GIRL POWER!!!!
AS for slogans: I have the "pause my Garmin"... hanging above my desk at work
I like : In my mind I'm a Kenyan!
Toenails are for sissies! I have that as a bumper sticker. If I only knew I would really get to test that out multiple times!
And...Does this shirt make my butt look fast?
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oh gee..I missed YoungTurkNY..first 5K since BC?! You are amazing! Absolutely so great! I hope you enjoyed every step. Funny how after prolonged things we look around more when we run. Brava!!
And lovestorun..Smartwool are the bomb indeed! I wear them to work at the hospital, so chilly there.
LuvLulu..I just got married in August, my husband is from Lynnfield and we have a home in Ipswich now. He is still living there for work.
I will weigh in on the strength training. I used to bike 3 days and run 4. Minimal weights. Then I did p90x over the winter one year, I can out in the spring for a June marathon super strong. Just plowed along and felt good after. I showered and ate and felt fine..that was when I knew it was the strength training. It was the only difference from other years. So as much as I hate to say it or do it, I believe it makes a big difference in overall performance and recovery.
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YoungTurk, SO GREAT that you had your first race back!!! All these milestones are so important. Back off, BC, we've got races to run!
princessrn, that's great data about the value of strength training for your marathon training. Also good for you for jumping on the cording problem. I called an LE therapist today about my heavy tingly arm which was starting to freak me out pretty badly. She reassured me that I'm not in imminent danger and gave me some good general dvice. I told her about the website we discussed on this thread a while back that said to start with 1-lb. weights and never use resistance bands. She thought that was rather alarmist, as she uses resistance bands all the time and would start people at higher weights if they felt OK with them. I told her I'm training for a half marathon and she said I'd need the strength training for that, as well as to stave off LE. Very helpful. I initiated a referral process through my surgeon and I'm going to see her for a consult and a strength training program. I hope to see her in a few weeks when I have my next surgeon visit. She's well over an hour away so I have to plan it out.
Socks are a big topic with me because I hate having cold feet and I live in a really cold place. After years of failed experiments with many sock brands, for the past 6 years or so I have worn Smartwool socks every single day about 8 months out of the year. So pricy (a bit better online), but I add a few pairs every fall and I've now built up quite a collection. Best Friends model for work, usually black, and a few different ones for running. Note to self: Buy stock in Smartwool.
lovestorun, I use my iPad with a book/magazine holder. Mine would have gone flying too (and with it, my ladylike language) if I'd just used the little half-inch lip on the TM. Good thing yours didn't break, phew!
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