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  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited January 2014

    Mederma really does work on scars.

  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited January 2014

    This dress of Rosemary's is one of my favorites ever

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  • wyo
    wyo Member Posts: 541
    edited January 2014

    i agree 2 weeks on a color or cut is just perfect- my hair is short so by the time I am over it- time to cut again haha

    Day 2 on this gimme brow- you have to look it up- it is soo easy to apply and very forgiving- no straight lines just follow your own brows.  Did it today first time in a hurry before catching a plane and was amazed at how great it looks all day. I am hooked LOL

    http://www.sephora.com/gimme-brow-P379986

    What it is:

    A brow-volumizing fiber gel. 


    What it does:
    This innovative brush-on fiber gel adheres to skin and hair creating brows where before there were none. It builds easily for thick, lush arches, thanks to a tapered brush for blending and a precision tip for shaping. The fiber gel is water resistant, long lasting, and buildable for natural-looking brows.

  • Blessings2011
    Blessings2011 Member Posts: 4,276
    edited January 2014

    Andrea623 - Bio-Oil made me itch, too!!! And I had such high hopes for it... 

    My PS told me the best thing for scars is good genes from your parents. *sigh*

  • Monis
    Monis Member Posts: 472
    edited January 2014

    My PS recommended I use Mederma.  He claimed it really does work.  I've been using it every night, hoping that it is making a difference.  I don't think my scar looks too bad, except for the fact that it's huge and goes across the entire front of my foob...

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited January 2014

    Bobo, That is so cool! Yes, it is definitely worth it to be able to read the plays and all the other stuff. Ancient Greek is a very lively and immediate language. It does not seem ancient and fossilized the way Latin often does (to me anyway).

    The Bible is written in Koine (kiní is the modern pronunciation, not koy-ne). Koine is the intermediate language between ancient and modern Greek. If you can read Ancient Greek, you can read the Bible. If you are a native Modern Greek speaker and know a bit of Ancient Greek, you can likewise read the Bible in the original.

    Best of luck with it. Check out the links on this page: http://www.komvos.edu.gr/arxaia/arxaia.htm and here: http://www.greek-language.gr/greekLang/index.html

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited January 2014

    A belated comment on the conversation about honey from the last page. There's an article on Eating with You Have a Weakened Immune System from the main Breastcancer.org site that lists raw honey among the foods to avoid during chemo. 

    • The Mods

  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited January 2014

    Melissa...  Nice!  I've been getting into old movies recently (because reality television is just taking over the world) and have been enjoying films with Gregory Peck, Grace Kelly, Rita Hayworth, Marilyn Munroe, Betty Grable, Elizabeth Taylor, etc. and have fallen in love with the style of the era.  The women were, always, so beautifully turned out; they were timeless and gorgeous, and women with real bodies could wear the clothes.  They just embraced curves!!!

  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited January 2014

    Selena, because of my build I so miss girly girl clothes. Fitted waists & full skirts...

    Oh my gosh, the maxi dresses that have been in style lately...even our pretty 5'10" receptionist looks frumpy in them. If you are very curvy (not even necessarily busty) but small waist and round bottom and thighs, most clothes seem like they are cut for little boys with boobs. Colors are a problem too. Some years it seems like all the winter clothes are purple and blue, which do nothing for me.

  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited January 2014

    Kay, yes, White Christmas. My favorite Christmas movie.

    (Love, you didn't do right by me).

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited January 2014

    Mardi, loved that you picked Jenny McQuack to model the hairdo. Nice cut, I like it.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    bobogirl -  wow,  you really HAVE been thru it, I had my expanders removed when I kept developing seromas, they were so irritating, my original PS wanted to "install drains" - and I quickly found a new PS, who said " we have to get those OUT OF YOU, they're clearly irritating you" - thank goodness. She is still my hero.  Also, the same PS who removed the implants after almost 6 years, i hated the feeling of them under the pec muscles, AND, tho we didn't know it, one had ruptured.  Just UGH - so wish I had just remained flat.  Now I'm wondering whether to have my "angel ears" removed.

    Fascinating to think of someone learning Attic Greek.

    Body Oil - I like the Weleeda BABY CREAM.  Calendula ( sp?) cream is very gentle too.  For very very dry, I use melted organic cocoa butter.

  • bobogirl
    bobogirl Member Posts: 2,777
    edited January 2014

    Sunflowers -- Weleda baby cream?  I'll try that.  Just went to PT today -- she said use Vitamin E oil.

    Momine, thank you for the excellent links!  Agree about Greek.  It seems current to me.  I teach rhetoric, and I'm surprised at how immediate the Greek seems when I bring it to my students.  Not sure they feel the same way..

    Wish I could join in the brow talk, but my brows are so dark, and thin -- they were waxed too thin when I was in my 20's and they didn't grow back.  I have so much to improve though (RE: become more vain).  I'm not sure where to start.

    Meantime, I have to do PT exercise 3x daily, plus "scar massage" (monstrous).  

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    vitamin e oil is good too - NOT THE STUFF IN THE BOTTLE sold in cosmetic stores - but the GOOD VITAMIN E oil sold in health food stores.  If you can't find the liquid, you can always buy the Vitamin E capsules, in strongest dosage, and nick or cut the capsule to apply.  Forgot about Vitamin E oil.  It really is supposed to be good for scars.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited January 2014

    Bobo, glad you liked the links and how cool that you teach rhetoric. We may have to start calling you Demosthena ;)

  • bobogirl
    bobogirl Member Posts: 2,777
    edited January 2014

    Well, that would be a real compliment.  Right now I might give myself another name.  Which Greek philosopher has been made half-crazy by physical therapy?  I might have to go with Epictecta, since Epictectus (the Stoic) was, at least, Stoic.   Perhaps I could adopt some of his traits.  But then again, he was incredibly critical of those (men) who pulled out their (body) hair for vanity's sake, and, since I wax, perhaps I don't resemble him enough.

    Sunflowers, how about the Vit E oil at Trader Joe?  That's what I was thinking of getting.  Do not want to resort to nicking individual capsules.  I've got quite a regimen going here. X

  • bobogirl
    bobogirl Member Posts: 2,777
    edited January 2014

    I reply to myself.  In keeping with the real topic of the thread, my highlights are growing out.  I wanted them to be punk-flavored, but they were too warm.  Conflicted.  Have told my hairstylist that I do not want the highlights to look too Kardashian.   Those Kardashians are not punk.

  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited January 2014

    Bobo, I think I'll be taking a bath & soaping my hair several times tonight to try to strip some of the new haircolor out.

    What colors are your hair and highlights?

  • bobogirl
    bobogirl Member Posts: 2,777
    edited January 2014

    Melissa, my hair is dark, and my highlights were supposed to be on the professional side of punk -- stripey, cool (as opposed to warm) and much lighter.  They are brassy now, and I had my hair cut after the mx, because I have to have follow up surgeries and I was worried about lifting my arms through all that to wash it and blow it.  Ooh.  Just remembered.  I have a haircut now exactly like the haircut the white blond Eileen Fisher model has on the website.  But mine is dark.   Will the Olia just wash right out like that?  It must be 'semi-permanent.'  X

  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited January 2014

    No, it's permanent but even permanent tones down a lot as it is washed.

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited January 2014

    While everyone is discussing hair and color does anyone have suggestions for how to deal with chemo curl?  I've threatened to get a flat iron, would need to let it grow for that. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    chemo curl - what I called my Persian Lamb fur coat hairdo, goes back to more natural hair ( for most women) after that first growth falls out naturally - takes a few months, I used a soft baby shampoo for the first growth, it was very fine. 

  • kayfh
    kayfh Member Posts: 790
    edited January 2014

    If you keep having your hair cut every 4 weeks or so you don't have to deal with that "alien" hair until some normal hair starts to grow in.  I am now almost 4 years out from chemo baldness and its sequelae, chemo curl and now my hair is more or less back to normal. Funny, when I was younger I did everything I could to have curly, wavy, hair.  But the poodle hair?  No way.

    I have been following (lurking) because you women seem to have thought of everything.  What I am wondering about is a brand of mascara, that I can get in Canada in a small city where the Shoppers Drugmart has the best selection in town, that will not turn into raccoon eyes when the inevitable rhinitis (Herceptin) causes me to sneeze, have a runny nose, and eyes..  Any suggestions?  Thanks!

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited January 2014

    I seriously never got chemo curls. I was almost hoping I would, because my hair is like hay and won't hold a curl for anything. It would have been a bit fun, but probably also horrifying, to have a few curls.

  • Andrea623
    Andrea623 Member Posts: 959
    edited January 2014

    Kay, have you tried a waterproof mascara? They're a pain to remove without an oil based cleanser, but they're the only ones I've found not to smear, flake, or run from teary eyes.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited January 2014

    I've never had chemo so can't speak to the chemo curl experience but as a naturally curly girl, there are good things to be said of curly hair:)

    Re: mascara, I use waterproof formulas that are hypoallergenic. Yes they are a bit more difficult to remove but it does stay put. 

  • kayfh
    kayfh Member Posts: 790
    edited January 2014

    Naturally curly hair is one thing, and a thing of beauty it is!  But chemo curls?  Not so much. 

    I will head to Shoppers this weekend for Waterproof mascara and remover for said product.  Thanks!

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2014

    Is there an explanation about how chemo curls happen?

  • Sparklekat
    Sparklekat Member Posts: 155
    edited January 2014

    Hey Ladies!

    Saw this on behance today and it reminded of your conversation about Downton Abbey and fashion.  I think the model kind of reminds me of Mary.

    http://www.behance.net/gallery/Madam-Kaplun-boutiq...

    Just thought i'd share!

  • kayfh
    kayfh Member Posts: 790
    edited January 2014

    You know, I wondered about this, googled this, and asked my oncologist and found out that, while it is known that it happens, there is no detailed scientific understanding of why chemo curls happen.  

    A probable explanation might found be in the cocktail of chemotherapy drugs are given to disable frequently dividing cells (cancer is, after all, all about uncontrolled cellular growth).  But the chemo can't tell the difference between cancerous cells and good cells. As a result other frequently dividing cells, hair, skin, mucous membrane, and nail cells are frequently affected and they behave differently post chemo.  Changes in the thickness and texture and sometimes even the colour may be the result of a change in the DNA of the cell lines that repair themselves after the chemo is stopped.  Once the chemo completely leaves our bodies the cellular reproduction should revert to what it was before chemo.  

    Many medications that we take have side effects that are not completely understood.  Sometimes they are so rare as to be dismissed by our health careproviders as being "all in our heads".   Until a critical mass of people taking the drug have reported their experience.  Or someone with a scientific bent decides to explore the physiology.  (That is my theory. The prevailing attitude seems to be: "chemo works to stop cancer, why do you need to understand why.  And stop being SO vain. Its just hair.")  It is not just vanity.  Try being hairless when it is minus 20C, or with a cold or non allergic rhinitis which is a side effect from many drugs, Herceptin to name but a few.  And you LOOK so damned sick.  

    On the other hand.  I was waiting for my granddaughter's bus while I was doing chemo and one of the Dads who was also waiting said, "you know Kay, your hair will grow back someday, my male pattern baldness is forever!"  It is not just women who have had chemo who angst over hair loss!  And he was right, it did grow back.

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