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  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited January 2014

    Wait. I'm supposed to remember stuff longer than,,,,,,,???,huh?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    Rocky, you've inspired me! Started on Calorie Count today. Gonna lose some of this major tonnage!

    And Spook, you made me laugh so hard, I almost............wait what was I saying? I need those memory trainers but my DD gave me a tablet for Christmas and I can't stop playing those damn Angry Birds and Fruit Ninja games!!

    The gyno told me today that if you're diagnosed after 50, your daughters don't need to be tested or worried. Anyone else been told this?

  • Rockym
    Rockym Member Posts: 1,261
    edited January 2014

    rohanna, yay... we can keep each other honest.  The one thing I've done the past few days is not record my weight if it's gone up.  Since I know my calorie count is between 1200 and 1500, if the scale goes up it's probably from something else and logging it would piss me off.  I also like that you can record ALL TYPES of activity.  There is even a category for walking while shopping.  I'll look for you on there.  I'm listed as rocky mountain ;-).

    So here is some rotten cheeze... I posted this on you know your a cancer patient when thread.  YKYACP when you visit your oncologist and tell him about your various
    aches and pains and he promptly orders tests based on what you told
    him... then you wake up the next morning only to realize you told him
    the wrong areas of aches and pains!!!

    I've got my doctor's office calling to schedule a full body bone scan and the scanning facility also called to schedule.  Problem is when I woke up this morning I realized it's not my hips that are hurting, it the upper thighs!  That's the bad part about being a tad heavy these days :-).  Upper thighs, hips... they all kinda hang together.  Well shit! Hips = mets and thighs are more than likely a nerve getting compressed each night!  Now I've spent the morning trying to find out if the test is really necessary.  Maybe a bone density, but not a full body scan!  Damn chemo brain!

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited January 2014

    Rohanna, I have never posted here, but like the topic. I had an consult with a genetist 2 days ago. They cannot ask for permission for the testing unless you have 2 close relatives dx before 50. Everyone, in my family literally gets and dies from cancer ( breast or lung ) but all are dx in there 60s. My cousin died at 39, lung.

    The testing is spendy, insurance Co. Have guidelines. It seems like alot of ladies on these threads do have the Braca test done. The did calculate the chances for my daughter, getting bc, 29 %. Obviously, those who want the test done can pay out of pocket, Yikes !  She said my odds of the Bracca gene was 3%. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    Oh, Rock! How many times have I told the onc. the wrong thing or forgotten to ask him the most important questions? I'd get a brain scan, but I'm afraid they'd only find a hamster with ADD sleeping in a little wheel! Someone suggested I try Luminosity. I'd probably get kicked off the site! I hope you find out what's causing your pains. I've been waking up with my hands asleep and achy. I'm scared stupid that it's lymphedema. Gonna ask the good old doc about it in a few days. Sometimes it takes me an hour to make a fist. How am I supposed to throat punch the people who cheeze me with these useless paws!?

    Hello, Holeinone, WELCOME, WELCOME, WELCOME! We've decided to opt out of the Braca test and just get my DD checked regularly. I hate that you've lost so many family members to this beast! I just don't understand how they could knock out polio, smallpox, measles, etc. in the "dark ages" of medicine but don't seem to make progress with cancer. Makes you want to believe the "pharmaceutical/insurance/hospital conspiracies. I see you were diagnosed in July of last year. How are you doing?

    Love and chocolate, Cheezers!

  • MaryFox
    MaryFox Member Posts: 121
    edited January 2014

    Just found this thread and love it.  But I'll probably be just a lurker because my daily 40mg of Prozac generally keeps me from getting cheezed off by stupid stuff.  On the other hand, I do get cheezed off when I read about the dolts some of you are married to,.

  • Rockym
    Rockym Member Posts: 1,261
    edited January 2014

    rohanne, well wouldn't you know... I got a hold of the oncologist's office and explained that I totally biffed it and that it wasn't hips, but upper thighs.  So of course they are going to say, "Oh, well then that makes a difference.  Just skip that test and see us in 3 months."  NOPE!  How about, "Well, the thighs are in that same area and it's important that we check everything out."  Well, now that they ordered it, I bet that legally they can't take it back.  Here we are back to legal reasons again I'm sure.  "Well, family of Rocky... she died, but had we done that test I ordered, we could have caught it.  Please don't sue me."  I told my Onc that I wish I could just sign a form for all my doctors that says I won't sue them for anything and now they can tell me their REAL OPINIONS.

    So next week I get injected with some radioactive crap to see what's up with my bones.  Funny thing is that I found an article that explained exactly what happens to my outer thighs in the morning.  It says when you put pressure on that area, it presses down on a nerve (I'm sure chemo made these nerves more sensitive) and that the burning pain comes from the pressure.  The moment I flip to my back or simply get up, pain is gone.  No brainer.  Of course I don't know how to keep it from happening.  I've always slept on my side :-(.  

    I've heard of Luminosity.  I was going to check that out until I saw the Kinect Xbox game ready for pick up at the Game Stop down the street.  So far so good.  It's fun and I've played it everyday since last week.  Okay, enough about me... how about you?  If you're having trouble making a fist, it sounds like your hands may be swelling overnight.  How are they during the day?  Lymphedema can be in your hands, but you would probably notice it in your arm or back and breast too.  I recall when I was walking for exercise a while back, my hands became all poofed up.  The hand doctor told me it had to do with the blood flow and the position of the hands hanging for so long.  I hope it's nothing and that it goes away quickly for you.  I hate stuff hurting.  I've gone from 49 to to what feels like 69 in too short of a period.

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited January 2014

    Well today I found my nerve and finally did it! Taken me years!

    I have a handicap license plate. Use it most of the time. Went to Publix today and there was a GOLF CART parked in handicap spot. They are street legal here. Pissed me off big time. Called the cops. Went in store, then I hear " will the owner of the golf cart please come to front desk". 2 cops were waiting there. 

    Ha! Take that story and your ticket back to your golf buddies. 

  • hugz4u
    hugz4u Member Posts: 2,781
    edited January 2014

    rohanna, Visit the Lymphedema threads on this site. The girls there are very knowledgable and you can ask any question about Lymphedema symptoms etc.

    Your doc more than likely will phoo phoo you if you mention Lymphedema.(mine and many others did)   Most doc just don't get the training about it in sch. and are extremely clueless.  Unless they see a limb super swollen they may dismiss your concerns or may say it is surgical swelling.

    Get educated by visiting the site I listed.  You can also visit the site: stepup-speakout.org. Some of the girls from the lymphedema threads made the website and it is great. The best way to deal with Lymphedema is to educate yourself and try and prevent it. When caught early it is not a nasty beast to take care of.

    You can get LE from just one node out although it doesn't happen often.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    Ah, MaryFox, Prozac is my friend too.Winking

    Rocky, we are truly twins! I told my onc. about the pain in my thighs and how they will suddenly become freezing cold and numb. His diagnosis-  peripheral neuropathy. Fancy shmancy term for nerve damage. Said it can come from cancer treatments and surgery. Along with fibromyalgia, it can also be the cause of my migraines and numb, frozen morning hands. And get this, it can also cause trigger finger! I asked him if he needed to run any tests and he said he could schedule an MRI or a CT if I wanted it, but he was sure of his diagnosis. Treatment-none. Prognosis- gonna get worse. So, no thank you on the tests! He finally asked if I could stand or sit for more than 30 minutes without pain and I said no. He patted my knee and said, "Look into disability. You're not going back to work." CRAPSTICKS! I taught Special Ed PreSchool and SPED K through 5 for many years before retiring early because of bad health. A lot of the teachers I worked with retired around the same time and wouldn't you know it, we all miss it. A former co-worker opened  preschools at 2 local churches and she called and asked if I would be interested in working with a Down Syndrome child and a hearing- impaired child. I yelled YES! I was so excited. But onc. says no. SHIT! SHIT! SHIT!

    You might want to google the p. neuropathy thingy and see if the symptoms match some of yours. Did you have your radioactive crap test yet? You've been in my thoughts and prayers. Just seems like this shit never ends. I hope you get good news.Oh , and forget Luminosity, I can't stop playing Angry Birds and Temple Run! It's like crack!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    Spook, I stood up and cheered over your golf cart in the handicapped spot story.  Good for you! Some people are such self-absorbed jerks. Cheezes me off! I was just issued the paperwork for a handicapped placard today. Do you just fill it out and take it to the DMV? I was always the one who parked a mile away and called the hike across the lot "exercise". Looks like those days are over for me.

    Hugs, thanks for the info on the Lymphedema group. I am trying to catch up with those lovely ladies' posts. My diagnosis ( see above) turned out to be something different, but I will be vigilant. Luckily, I got a terrific onc. who helps me keep an eye out for the symptoms. He is truly caring and never dismisses any complaint or rushes me out the door. At least one good thing came out of this mess!

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited January 2014

    Yes just take it to DMV. The hang tag is free here, my license plate was a one time $20,  I think the hang tag is a bother. 

    Have fibro an PN too. Check your vitD level, getting that up to more normal helped my pain more than any pain pill. 

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited January 2014

    HI, Ya'll know I pop in from time to time.  Today feeling a bit of smaltsy, it's my 5th year Cancerversary.  My home thread is Insomnia thread, but I thought who do I want to share this with besides my dear friends there. I thought of my friends here. I know you will share in my JOY of this day, b/c we each have the thoughts in common re:BC. Bless you all in your journey.

    3 minutes ago, edited 2 minutes ago by sas-schatzi

    Hmm opened a bottle of wine, thought about these few hours in 2009. 11:55 am--I had a phone call from a nurse that said  "DR.  L wants you to know you have a brain tumor"----no answers to what, where, what kind,etc. Said to her "Well, going out the door for a 1pm bx, we know is going to be positive" "I quess when the shit hits the fan".

    Talked over films with radiologist, I pointed some stuff out on the films and said "This tells me it's very aggressive". He looked at me, with the look of --should I be honest with her or not. He said "Yes"

    Figured a good little nurse would tell her boss that she had a brain tumor. DH and I already figured out a plan for him to drive me on my homecare nursing calls. Told boss of tumor and plan. Her words "We need to know you're safe with patients, I have to relieve you from work". I never worked again.

    In the space of four hours, I had a triple hit. A brain tumor, breast cancer, and lost my career of 40 years.

    But my Lovey's, It's five years today. We never know why anything happens the way it does. I wrote the following in 2011 it appears. Probably on a glass of wine then too :)

    Nov 4, 2011 03:47am, edited Aug 14, 2013 06:58pm by sas-schatzi

    This thread is about being prepared------------and will continue to be so, but add to your list about ending it.

    There will come a time that you will no longer need BCO. It is different for each person. Some need to stay here b/c no one in their life gets what they have experienced.

    Others need to stay b/c they have developed friendships, that are beyond dissolution, by leaving.

    Others want to stay b/c they love helping others.

    Why we stay or why we leave, is to each our own, we love when we are here, and remember when we our gone.

    But always , remember you are valued, and your return is received joyously, because you LIVE.

  • Rockym
    Rockym Member Posts: 1,261
    edited January 2014

    rohanna, I have no doubt in my mind that neuropathy and all these fun aches and pains are all a direct result of BC treatment.  Kinda effed up that we have to get sick to be healed.  What kind of shit is that??  Oh well, at least we are still here and of course we are at least healthy enough to not be crapping in someone's dressing room.  I was thinking of that yesterday while I was waiting for the body scan.  Oh the memories that keep us smiling.  Some think of a warm summer day, others think of their darling children or grandchildren while I think of crap in a dressing room.  Can you believe it's been about 2.5 years now?

    So, why the heck can't you go back to work?  What about part time?  I bet doing something you would enjoy would help a lot.  Your focus would be in a whole different direction and you never know how your body would react once your head was happy.  Just think about it.  I know you like your onc., but since when do you let others call the shots for you?  Why is the onc against it?

    Okay, enough of you, back to me :-).  The brain training game and the memory games on my tablet may really be helping.  I've been finding words quicker and even when others are searching for a word, I've been right on.  I definitely plan to keep it up.  As for the radioactive crap test... I did it yesterday.  I am hoping I can pick up a copy of the scan and report tomorrow.  I never had any concern about mets until the oncologist brought up this test.  He's hoping for a good case of neuropathy!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

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    This is for you SAS!

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited January 2014

    OH Ro Thank you I love sparklesSillyHeart sassy

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    Rock, crap in a dressing room! Still cracks me up! And it didn't help that he looked like Lurch!

    Onc says because I can't sit or stand for more than 30 minutes and am prone to pick up every little germ and virus due to immune deficiency, and internalist says I can't lift anything heavier than a pencil, I'm screwed! I am fortunate enough to do some babysitting for my neighborhood kids, so I can still get a little dose of kiddies until my DD provides me with some grandchildren. So that keeps me from running the streets!

    Keep me posted about your radioactive crap test. (PM if you want to.) But there will be no mets and the nasty reason for this nasty test is that the doctor needs a new BMW!

    Sas, HAPPY REBIRTHDAY! 5 years! WooHoo! YOU continue to inspire me and teach me new things. (Note that I not only know what C&P is now, I DID it! Thank you.)

    I was switched from Arimidex to Femara yesterday. Keep your fingers crossed for no SE's.

    I love you Cheezers!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    Spook, I have to go downtown to the County Clerk's office for my placard. It's $21.50. That's about a 30 minute drive so, I intend to make DH drive me and then take me to lunch! How's that for making lemonade!

    I will definitely be looking into vitamin levels. Are you comfortable sharing your vitamin info? I found a supplement at GNC called Anatabloc that helps with inflammation. It seems to help. Thanks for sharing with me. I don't know what I would do without the wonderful women of BCO!

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited January 2014

    I just take the vitD from Walmart. It's cheap, like me! I'm not convinced there can be THAT much difference besides price, and some big name company-and Walmart brand. 

    My aches from fibro are pretty much gone. Fibro can have over 100 symptoms, like noise, crowds, smells, lights. The D won't help those.  When we did the blood draw, I was 17!  I'm in the mid normal range now, feeling better.

    1200 Walmart calcium, and that's it for supplements. Only because MO said to. 

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited January 2014

    RO- cool when did I teach you that?----------purfectttttttt cake- In my pot induced mellowness the sparkles are even nicer. Makes me happy when you say _I help'd................HHMMMMMhhhhhhmmmmm.............

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited January 2014

    I'm just trying to irritate the NEA, the NSA, FBI, Homeland security, anyone trying to get a piece of us rebels, that are just trying to be pain free from the travesty of the aftermath of the collateral damage to out bodies created by our friggen life saving treatments. We cause this irritation to them when we use certain words.as you all know. Then they create fles on us. I suppose they have meetings and ascribe a numerical threat rating.

    Mine just got higher b/c I used a phrase that they likely use. Numerical threat rating--------hey it's like the pain scale. They probably don't get it, unless they've been assigned here long enough.

    Wonder ---do they assign us new code names from our screen names? So, then we have a real name, a screen name, nicknames on each thread we're on, different names in PM's, the agency code name. My goodness, we're CIA operatives,.

  • Rockym
    Rockym Member Posts: 1,261
    edited January 2014

    So, I call my imaging company this morning and ask if my films and reports are ready.  Office worker says yes and tells me that films and a report will be prepared for me and I can pick up everthing up (information on mets or not) at 12:00p.  So, then I think... well, maybe I should give my doctor a chance to tell me the good or bad news.  I call and ask for the results from my test, knowing darn well I will have them in a couple of hours anyway.  By 12:15p no call so I pick up the report myself.  I decided to take the papers into the car and read what it says.  I was also hoping the report would be cut and dry to read as I've never read that type of report before.

    I am happy to say that all is well.  No mets!  You guys are stuck with me.  Damn doctors!  First they scare the heck out of me and then I didn't even get a call first thing to give me the results.  I still haven't had a call, but eff them.  I'm off to enjoy a night of music with my son knowing for now that my days aren't numbered :-).

    sas... know i remember why I don't smoke pot anymore ;-).  Happy anniversary!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014
    Rocky, Yaaaaaaaayyyyyy!

    No Mets!!!!!!!!!! Stuck with you? Yes. Please. I'm so glad you got good news. Stupid doctors! They should have called you! Maybe they were off running more scary, useless tests. Idiots! But I'm doing the happy dance for you! Wanna cut in?

    Sas, I had to ask you what C&P was. Since you told me, I've been a  C&Ping fool! Is pot legal in your area? If so, can I come visit? Would be so much better than the pain crap they have me on. And we need new code words and names now that the CIA is on to us. We'll just have to go Jason Bourne on their asses!

    Spook, thanks for the supplement info. I've also been taking elderberry for immunity. Can't seem to find elderberry wine in this area, so I use the syrup.

    Keep warm and Cheeze on!

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited January 2014

    Ro hoohoo, No pot's no legal here. Should be legal everywhere. It's an enforcement nightmare. As bad as prohibition. It oh so helps with the pain. 

    ROcKy-----------YAY, so cool.......... BTW regarding when you broke your foot and walked on it forever, the last dog fall I had, something in the foot just didn't feel right. I figured I could walk etc, didn't get it checked out......used to the falls, eventually stuff heals. Well a while ago I was doing that early first wake up stretch in bed You know the stretch that happens unintentionally. WELL there was this POP and burn and hurt. A few minutes later all was well. Something was --dislocated. So, happy now, no pain . Wish that'd happen with the rest of the body

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited January 2014

    Spookie........my first vitaD test read---------   " <4 can't be measured". I've studied the hell out of it, but can't get my brain around it.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited January 2014

    Lovewins- did any of that stuff on Insomnia help with sleeping?

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited January 2014

    Sas I take 5000 mg D3 daily. Get it at Walmart cheap. Really helps the fibro pain, better than any rx. 

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited January 2014

    Spookie, I'm supposed to take 50,000i.u. twice a month. But have some concerns re:kidney that I want to address with him next visit.

    The first wweks dosing of 50,000 was for I think 5 or 7 days. It was the most unuaul wonderful  feeling ever. Never felt that way again. I'm guessing my whole body was drinking it up. 

    the dosing I can understand. How it works on the cellular level and the negative feed-back system with the pituitary and parathyroids and intestine is what I'm having trouble with. I understand all the other neg-fb systems , but this is something way different. 

    OOps breakfast starting to burn

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited January 2014

    You're the one that likes to research LOL. I went to a pain management doc years ago, before bc. He dx'd me with fibro. From hanging on an excellent fibro board where it was highly recommended to get the D test, he ordered it for me. The first one made me feel better. Then my MO said to keep on with it. Like I would ever stop!

    Now, if it were just as easy to take care of the rest of my fibro symptoms. 

    I do sort of chuckle when people up north say they're low. We are in Fl, and still test low. So it must be the way our bodies process it, or not. I really don't care, as long as I don't hurt. 

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited January 2014

    Spookie from the time we got my measurable blood level up. it was in the 40'sto 50. Doc was happy with that I wasn't, I wanted it higher. We debated allot.

    What happened when my lab came back at 30(last early fall) on the once a month 50,000, he couldn't explain, but he was satisfied b/c low normal is 30. I wanted /needed an explanation as to why the sudden drop. Particularly,since I was swimming almost every day in the sun. I got more sun in that period than at any other time in say 30-35 years. Theoretically, my lab value should have been the best yet. It wasn't.  

    I, also, had unusual fatigue, fibro increase, etc.  That's when he increased me to twice a month @ 50,000. Again, theoretically, the expectation was that my lab would significantly increase. It didn't. The next lab was 33. After studying the vita D use in the body, I learned that it is stored in the intestine and released when stimulated by low levels of calcium. The exact how of this is what I couldn't decipher. I read the words, but I couldn't "get it". I usually get this biology stuff reasonably well, this one's got me scratching my head. What was happening to me didn't make sense. 

    Then this May when the thyroid was found to be enlarged, it raised the question to me as to what affect was anything having on the parathyroids as well as what was happening to the thyroid. There are specific tests for the parathyroids---pituitary hormones and direct parathyroid hormones

    I asked the endocrine doc for a specific MRI to evaluate for iron levels----long story. The call back was that he was having some pituitary studies done. I had them drawn yesterday. Several were questionable b/c I've had a total hyster and ovaries out in 1996. Running an LH  seems strange, but he has a rationale. I just don't know it. Plus, he had a cortisol and estradiol--relate to adrenal gland. Okay, but I expected that he would run the tests related to Parathyroid Hormone calcium levels, and others-----he didn't.

    The ENT doc that is also following my thyroid, last visit I asked for a freeT4 and a T3 and autoimmune antibodies. This was based on the rationale: that we all jumped on the "cancer worry train" and perhaps some basic labs should have been done in the beginning when the enlarged thyroid was found on MRI. The TSH is routinely run every 6 months b/c I'm on thyroid med since 2007. Usually if the TSH is in range the free T4 and T3 are normal, but they can be abnormal.

    He ran them. The Thyroglobulin which measure autoimmune is abnormal, but the antibody component is normal. That with the bx results identifying follicular cells is not a good combo----I have an appointment this afternoon. My wish is that they just take the thyroid out. Perhaps an ananlogy is DCIS and IDC. I need to be convinced we aren't sitting looking and waiting for this to turn cancerous. My reading suggests that we are. BUT all the endocrine stuff is soooooooo involved, I can't make a conclusion b/c I don't know enough.

    AND what the hell is up with the D changes?

    My problem as I see it is it's a bit too hodge podge for me. AND I have two docs qualified to independently to evaluate the thyroid, parathyroids, and VitaD(endocrine doc only). We all know I'm a pain in the ass. Both docs are very respecting of me, but I don't want too or should not be the one suggesting what tests need to be done.

    It may sound like my docs aren't up to snuff, but they are......really, I feel privileged to have them. I would feel allot better if they talked to each other and an allgorhitm be done to see what we know and what we don't know.-----that'll be the crux of the visit suggestion this afternoon. Plus, there is a part of me that expects him to say let's remove it. Not sure what I'll do if he says to do another bx. 

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