DIEP 2014
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Jmb, Wishing you a speedy recovery. Keeping you and Donna in my thoughts and prayers today!
Kelley, So sorry to hear that you will need a revision. When will you return to NOLA?
Roco, I totally agree with Nihahi. Good luck!
With these frigid temps my doc's said staying warm after flap surgery is really important.
Stay warm and think Spring!
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Wishing the new DIEP ladies, a quick recovery.
I called the genetics clinic at Credit Valley Hospital to update them that I have been diagnosed with a new Primary bc. They had said back in November 2013 when I went for genetics counselling and my older sister went for the results of her testing that I was not eligible due to their criteria. Three immediate family members having bc and not been tested. As there was only myself and an aunt left to be tested they said I had to wait until another family member was diagnosed. These rules are absolutely crazy given my strong family history. Anyways....they now say that I can get the testing due to this new breast cancer diagnosis. She still said that the chances of me having the mutuation were slim as my other two sisters didnt have it. I, however, belong to two separate private Facebook groups...one is for DIEP flap and the other one is Prophylatic Masectomies, I posed the question on there asking if others have had immediate family members test negative and then some come back positive. Bingo....several said they had a few sisters test negative, a brother positive and then themselves positive....so I know now that the genetist is not entirely correct in her thinking.
I told her I wanted the test done, she is writing up the requisition and I will head down to the hospital to get bloodwork done at my convenience, no appt necessary. It will take 2 months from test date to get results back.
I always found out that Triple Negative breast cancer is often associated with having the BRCA1 gene. I mentioned this to her and she said usually only in women under 40. I dont think I am "the usual case scenario". The chances of being diagnosed with bc under age 45 is 25% - I got it, chances of being diagnosed with Triple Negative Breast Cancer are 15-20% - I got it. Its especially strange since my first breast cancer was estrogen positive. I dont think breast cancer has any rhyme or reason or plays by the "normal rules".
Michele
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Thinking about the girls in surgery today. Hope to hear from you both soon.
Kelly, you go girl!
Sweet, make your husband get you one of those lightweight sticks for the swiffers. I used those a lot when I couldn't go anything heavy duty. You can't let those dust bunnies mock you!!!!
Bella, I am glad you are doing your research, and talking to your docs. You will come to the decision that is right for you.
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Curly, stay on those genetics people if that is what you want. They keep hounding me to take the test, and I asked my family what they wanted too, and they don't want to know. So, I chose not have the test. Bascially, I would have done nothing different if I had tested positive. I would have still had the bmx. But, later I found out that you can pass cancer on to males, and I asked my son, and he wants to know. So, I am reconsidering.
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Curlylocks, your bc may not be normal but YOU are awesome. It amazes me that you are able to crawl out of your own situation to give encouragement and advice to others here. Wishing you nothing but the best. I was part of a genetic study where they tested for every genetic abnormality they knew. Nada. My mom and grandma had bc, though, so we still think there is a familial link.
Thinking of all the new flappers this week! Congrats and welcome. Hoping for no complications and good healing.
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kelley, sorry you are dealing with this crap. Hope it all works out well and soon!
jenjen- I hope your redness goes away and everything settles down! Great advice from Lucy on taking pics for reference over time.
jmb5 and donna, we're in your pockets today. Healing thoughts to you and may Wilbur bless you with stupid happy thoughts on waking! (That's my favourite bit!)
bellamomma, so glad you feel you are in a good position to talk to the experts. Staying warm is vital - I had my surgery in the middle of summer but they wouldn't let me open the windows at all or go outside for over a week. But here in Switzerland, the minimum hospital stay is 7 days, usually 10 days, so they get to control this stuff much more tightly!
sweetpickle, dust bunny are minions of evil so you need to be supernotcleaningwoman! That's the only way to defeat them!
curly, just remember that the BRCA genes are only two of many, many, many genes that can cause breast cancer. Having a definitive "no" on that will not make any difference if there are other mutations at play. My sister had BRCA testing which was negative, but the geneticist's reports says very clearly that they believe it is genetic, given the family history. It was their recommendation that I have annual MRI screening and here I am. You have done everything you can to reduce your chances, so take some comfort in that. That said, your kids should probably be tested, if that's what they want. *hugs*
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Hello ladies I know we are all different and each of our situations are different, however I was just wondering how long were you lovely ladies in surgery? Guess I am just a little nervous on how long I have read it takes. I am having a double masectomy with immediate DIEP. Thank you
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Curly, good luck sorting out the genetics aspects. It seems important if you have children. I tested negative, but because my mom wouldn't get tested there was no way to know whether my siblings should worry or not as you get this on the mom's side. The counselor told me BC is nearly always a "fluke" with a small percentage known to be of genetic origin. So my siblings (I have no children) have to make their own decisions about testing vs. more frequent scans and exams. I decided it would be easier for me to have both breasts removed than to live out my life with increased vigilance on my remaining breast. No regrets. I'll likely have my ovaries removed at some point, no rush on it though.
Southern - I had a single mx of my remaining (good) breast at the time of my bilateral DIEP reconstruction at NOLA and was in surgery for 9 hours. They told us it would be 5 hours but the surgeon spent a lot of time cleaning out scar tissue from my original cancer side, trying to help improve my lymphedema. I was in the hospital for 4 days.
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southerngirl - I was in for 8.5 hrs. I had already had the BMX 2 yrs ago. He did spend some time cleaning out scar tissue and trying to fill in my chest wall on the cancer side due to a birth defect I had. I gave him quite a challenge!
One question I have is when can I start wearing a bra? I forgot to ask. It's been 16 days since surgery.
Thinking of Donna and jmb today
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Southerngirl - I was 7.5 hours in surgery for PBM and DIEP but my PS had a very large team helping!
Beebop - I will be 6 weeks out of surgery on Monday, still not wearing anything. I have a 2nd followup with PS on Tuesday, will ask then and let you know...
Michele
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out of surgery. Went well - about 5 hours. Flap looks great. I feel good w/ little pain & no nausea!!!!! I cannot eat or drink anything until tomorrow & then only clear liquids for a day. No food until Sunday. They do this in case there is a problem with the flap & I need to be brought back in surgery.
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I had kind of good news today. I got an email from my new surgeon, and he believes my abdominal CAT scan shows good vessels for my surgery. I am a little concerned that I have only one good one on one side, and three on the other. This is the original scan I had last summer that showed the liver lesions which they believe are incidentalomas. For the new ladies, that means something is there, but it's not anything to worry about. A name given to strange things found on tests that have no origin, and given that name by SBE's son, who is a radiologist. Anyway, he is not wild about the quality of the test, and I have a feeling he is going to want another one done. I really hope not, because I have a problem (which get's worse with each scan) with they dye. Last time I had to take prednisone and Benadryl for the reaction.
Kelly, I am curious, did the cleaning out of the scar tissue help your lymphedema at all?
I am being told my surgery will be 6 hours or so. But, I already had my bmx, so that takes a big amount of time off the surgery.
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SouthernGirl, my surgery (bmx with diep) was 15 hours. Quite long, but no complications or anything.
Beebop, it was a month before I was allowed a no-wire sports bra.
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goldie, my arm is still swollen. I think it might take a while to see if lymphedema was helped.
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thank you ladies I am being told 9hrs Oh well I will be sleep why stress over something I can't control. If I am praying about it I shouldn't be worried about it. ((((Hugs)))))
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Southern- I remember being nervous about how long the surgery was too.Mine took 14 hous and I needed two blood transfusions but I was o.k. It was hearder on my family than me because all I had to do was go to sleep and wake up.
Lahala- Indeed they are evil and I plan to pay the kiddos extra to suck them up for me.
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Donna! You win the award for fastest stage 1 post op post! Glad everything looks good and there is no nausea. Now rest and heal!
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mine was ten hours. Harder on the people waiting ( I read their texts later and they were freaking out!)
Goldie- I hope you don't have to repeat that test. Did you have the CT or MRA?
Funny how some have the surgical bra and some have nothing. I had the surgical bra with the Velcro opening. I think I finally asked at 6 or 7 weeks if I had to keep wearing it! The Velcro was itchy. Then I got the Bali. For the new girls Goldie will tell you all about it ( saved me hours and hours of bra shopping time!)
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Sweet. I can loan you my dust bunny slippers. They are slippers where the soles are shaggy like a dustmop. You can shuffle around the house and feel like you are accomplishing something!
Bella. Please bring warm clothes to Mayo. Sunday low is predicted at -18 and a blizzard warning and cold all week. Hope they are wrong!
Southern. I haven't had my surgery yet, but I was told 12 to 14 hours for a BMX and DIEP. Did anyone else's PS talk about the possibility of a blood clot in the flap? I haven't heard of anyone here having one. She said she is on call and if it happened it could mean up to 16 more hours in surgery.
My mom, sisters, and I were BRAC 1 and 2 neg and mom had a variant of unknown significance. They said we might have a yet undiscovered gene or it could be something environmental.
It is odd how all of these Dr.s have so many different recommendations. Mine was very specific about no fish oil for two weeks before DIEP and after. It makes the flap slippery. No shaving of armpits for a week before. She said I would keep all the tubes until my 2 week checkup and then only the ones with a reduced output could be removed. I know some have had them removed much earlier.
Hope Donna and jmb are pain free and resting today. Good luck to those getting ready for next week.
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Donna - wow, that was fast! You sound so coherent! Glad you are doing well. I was eating cheeseburgers on day 2, too bad you can't eat, but hope everything goes well.
Iowagirl - I believe that is why they have to check the flaps with the Doppler every hour to make sure the blood is flowing and there are no clots.
Goldie-Tell me about the Bali!
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seriously sweet....you're stressing about dustbunnies!!! Crank up the heat..put on your sunglasses...have one of the kids bring you something cool to drink...plug in the earphones and pretend you're at the beach....I have NEVER seen a dustbunny on the beach !
wowzer donna....you're sounding great! Rest easy, the scary part is over, now you start healing.
goldie....try not to stress too much about the ctscan....many docs, mine included, don't even do them. They don't always reveal what is actually found once the surgery starts.
curly....yes, like jeannie said....you ARE AWESOME!!!! My thinking about the genetic components that "aren't" found when there is strong family history, likely means they haven't completely learned yet all the different ways to test or recognize all the types of genetic mutations that actually exist.
8 hours for me....uni flap, PS team had a lot of extra work to do to clean out a well established capsular contracture.
I'm sure I'm missing names/messages.....thinking of you all. {{{{X}}}}
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Surgery went well. It took 11 hours! Yikes. My tummy is sore and feels so tight. I'm also super tired and have a fuzzy brain. I was telling my husband a story and all of a sudden I would forget what I was saying. Weird!
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This is the bra. The best bra on earth. I have been wearing the mediums and I am usually at 34 B. What is so nice about them is first their softness, and then the fact that the are a little bit padded helps even out your foobs if you happen to need that after stage 1, or with me during my expansions of my expanders. They come up a little high for modesty, and they look fine peeking out of the top of another blouse, or t shirt. They come in really fun color, and they wash great. I am sending the Kohls link because if you wait for a sale, or you have a coupon you can get them cheap.
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Noticed the link I posted for the bra is not working. I don't know why.
You can get them at Kohls. Bali Comfort Revolution style # 3484. They seem to be on sale right now. Get em while you can. Great price. I will try to post the link again here, but if it doesn't work just go to Kohl.com and type in the search Bali bra 3484.http://www.kohls.com/product/prd-1110758/bali-bra-comfort-revolution-full-figure-with-smart-sizes-3484.jsp
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Nihani, I have heard quite a few of you say your docs didn't scan you first. I have heard some say they had ultrasound done at the time of surgery. This new surgeon likes to know where the vessels are going in to the surgery because he determines where he makes his incision that way. I can only pray I have a pretty tummy like yours when I am done.
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thank you iowagirl
goldie- I wish I could find my size, looks like they dont have it but that is a great price!
Nahahi- dear lord no heat for me! I had a bilateral oophectomy and I have a fan blowing on me along with an ice pack and I still have a horrible heat rash! Im kinda glad its so cold out right now.
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Sweet, what size are you looking for? I believe there are plenty in stock.
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It says I shouldbe a 46 AA and that they were out of stock.
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jmb.....and YOU sound great too!!!! Congrats on making it to the other side. Rest and heal.
sweet.....ok...try this......walking across an open field, fluffy snowflakes falling thickly around you...temp is -40, there are icicles on the ends of your eyelashes....and you can't feel the tips of your fingers and toes...STILL NO DUSTBUNNIES TO BE SEEN!!!!!!
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That sounds so refreshing Nihahi! Its so funny that I became such a neat freak since getting cancer. I had such low white blood counts for so long I became paranoid of germs! lol
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