Exercise - Working Back to it After or During Treatment

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  • MaraUK
    MaraUK Member Posts: 147
    edited January 2014

    Hi yoga girl just renaming you gritgirl I really admire your determination. I have to admit my exercise is still limited I went to a Pantomine today there were at lot of stairs at the theatre. It was veryfunny   so I hope laughing used  up a lot of calories.

    Curveball and Twohobbies i hope things are improving it looks awful on the news overhere.

    Take care everyone 

  • TwoHobbies
    TwoHobbies Member Posts: 2,118
    edited January 2014

    Thanks, Mara. We are through the worst of it in Chicago. It was -14 this morning going to work but 2 degrees coming home.   Looks like that translates to -25 centigrade and -16 C. 

    I have done no exercise these last two days except shiver!  Tomorrow I'm going to look for a zumba video for just such occasions. 

  • gonegirl
    gonegirl Member Posts: 1,871
    edited January 2014

    things are hopefully warming up here. Just walking quickly to and from subway for me. I think shivering must be exercise too. I know laughing is, mara

  • Warrior_Woman
    Warrior_Woman Member Posts: 1,274
    edited January 2014

    Helppppp! I just came across a thread titled: Beware: Athletes who choose reconstruction may regret it. The discussion is focused on the inability to return to previous levels of athletic ability after reconstruction using tissue expanders because of the changes to the pectoral muscles. As a runner and moderate weight lifter this really frightened me. If there is anyone here who has had the same surgery and has resumed their physical activity without impairment please post. I need the reassurance. I am hoping the complications are more the exception than the rule.

  • Jennie93
    Jennie93 Member Posts: 1,018
    edited January 2014

    From what I've seen on these boards, it seems that complications are more the rule than the exception, sorry to say.  But perhaps those who sail through with no issues just don't post as much.  And you've already had your surgery, so it's not exactly helpful to discuss it now, right?  Doing ok so far?  

    I know one woman who had BMX with implants about 5 yrs ago and she is active - running, biking, etc.  She said the only thing she can't do anymore is push-ups.  No great loss, she said.  Ha ha.  The lymphedema specialist says push-ups are a no-no anyway.  

  • gonegirl
    gonegirl Member Posts: 1,871
    edited January 2014

    i can still lift weights and do push ups. I take it easy on that because my muscles spasmed after reconstruction. But I can do everything now that I did before surgery. 

  • Jennie93
    Jennie93 Member Posts: 1,018
    edited January 2014

    Also, if you haven't seen it yet, there is an excellent article here:

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/58/topic/8...

  • TarheelMichelle
    TarheelMichelle Member Posts: 871
    edited January 2014

    Just wanted to say hey to everybody. Gritgirl, you feeling OK with the new meds? I haven't been on the boards much lately, but I am thinking of everybody, and I hope you are all feeling ok. I bought some cold-weather running clothes, but if it gets below freezing, I'm just miserable, no matter how many layers I put on. So I climb the stairs in my apt. building for 20 mins. when it's too cold, like this week. I'm really surprised, after about a year of running a couple a miles a week, that climbing 7 flights of stairs a couple of times put the hurting on my muscles. So, whatever you gals are doing, try and mix it up, to give all your muscles a chance to stretch and grow. I'm trying to get back to a yoga class, which is so perfect when it's effing freezing outside. Hug yourselves for everything you do to move. Love you all. 

  • Warrior_Woman
    Warrior_Woman Member Posts: 1,274
    edited January 2014

    Jennie - Thank you for the resources.  I bookmarked everything.  

    Gritgirl - Did you have TEs before your implants?

    So far, I am recovering better than I expected.  I do want to do all I can to prevent problems rather than trying to clean them up later.

  • gonegirl
    gonegirl Member Posts: 1,871
    edited January 2014

    tarheel. They had to decrease my dose and the last dose was better. Lucky living in a building where you can do the stairs.

    Warrior. I had immediate reconstruction so implants put right. I was very careful for quite a while

  • MaraUK
    MaraUK Member Posts: 147
    edited January 2014

    Hi gritgirl and all you frozen people.

    It finally stopped raining here so I went for adownhill walk didn't make it back up.

    I will be so glad when we move the new house is on the flat.

    Mara x

  • TarheelMichelle
    TarheelMichelle Member Posts: 871
    edited January 2014

    gritgirl -- like the new pic. You have a lovely complexion. Glad to hear the new dose is better but I guess that means the previous dose wasn't treating you right. Hope you're on a better path now. 

    It's dreary and raining. I don't even feel like climbing steps. I promise to do something tomorrow. The yoga studio moved so now it's 1 block away not 2. Can't be any easier. ... 

  • gonegirl
    gonegirl Member Posts: 1,871
    edited January 2014

    Ronda. 1 block away is very convenient. I pushed myskef to go to yoga on Wednesday. It was cold and wet. Yesterday went with friend to gym. Baby steps. My hope is to slowly build up flexibility and strength. One step at a time. Doesn't happen over night.  

  • RhodyMMM
    RhodyMMM Member Posts: 455
    edited January 2014

    I am trying to do better getting on the exercise wagon. Signed up for an online weight loss/nutrition program for my health insurance. Actually got on my old rowing machine for 20 minutes yesterday and today. Had to go easy with the knee flexion so I would not reaggravate my poor, sore knee, but so far doing okay. Did 3000 meters each day. Feels good to be a bit sore......

  • Warrior_Woman
    Warrior_Woman Member Posts: 1,274
    edited January 2014

    GritGirl - I wanted the one step implants but I wasn't a candidate for some reason.  

    I had my first chemo infusion yesterday and today I ran 5.5 miles with my dog.  I have a bad feeling the payback is coming soon.  I can feel the SEs starting.  The nurse is pushing for me to go to a special chemo exercise program.  I have been active my entire life and now I'm being sent to a remedial gym class.  It had better not come to that.  

    Rhody - I have used http://www.fitday.com/ in the past and it is a good online resource for helping to determine weight loss goals and plan a diet accordingly.  I like that it provides a lot of food substitutions.  I still need to schedule with a dietitian who specializes in cancer.  

  • gonegirl
    gonegirl Member Posts: 1,871
    edited January 2014

    Warrior. I stayed active throughout Taxol but found I had limits. 3 miles walking OK. 5 miles I threw up. That was a quick and easy line to follow. No choice on accepting that limit. 

    Yoga again last night. It's getting easier. Slow and steady wins the race.

  • curveball
    curveball Member Posts: 3,040
    edited January 2014

    Ugh, I think I'm completely back to Square One as far as exercise is concerned. Whether it was the Zometa or some bug I picked up in the ER, I've been flat on my back almost since New Year's. I feel almost as weak and shaky as when I got out of the hospital last year. Today I ran errands, a drive-by at the bank and another at the post office, plus two where I actually got out of the car and walked! Plus, I dragged my garbage cans back from the street to the side yard. I'm not exhausted, but I think I might have been if I'd tried to do anything else. Oy vay!

  • Warrior_Woman
    Warrior_Woman Member Posts: 1,274
    edited January 2014

    LOL GritGirl - So here's the plan...  The doggy poop bags I carry will double as barf bags.  No need to pack heavy.  

    Curveball - I wish errands counted as serious exercise.  That would be great multitasking.  I certainly hope you feel better soon.  It's been a rough start to 2014 for you.

  • curveball
    curveball Member Posts: 3,040
    edited January 2014

    @Warrior_Woman, this is the thread for people taking baby steps. I didn't do anything that could be called serious exercise even before I had cancer, never mind during treatment, and I'm not trying to do it now. My goals are to retain the ability to live on my own, including working in my garden, to regain some stamina, and to get back up (yes, up) to a healthy weight. After the last 2-1/2 weeks, I am in pretty bad shape. When I wrote above "as weak and shaky as when I got out of the hospital last year", I mean legs-tottering-under-me-exhausted-just-by-taking-a-shower weak & shaky. 

    Even minimal exertion leaves me breathing hard, maybe harder than you are after your five-mile run, so I count grocery shopping, I count errands, I count doing the laundry and other household chores, I count putting out the garbage cans, I count sweeping the floor—I count anything more strenuous than lying in bed as exercise, because they all contribute toward getting me to my goal. I need to be able to do those things. I don't need to be able to run for miles.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited January 2014

    gritgirl - be the tortoise, be the tortoise!

    I am running a 5k race on Feb. 1 and so have been trying to get out and do a walk/run combo so that I am not last to cross the finish line.  Some of you may remember that I experienced some issues with my right knee back in April/May that required a cortisone injection.  Unfortunately, it appears that I am now having the same issue with the left knee.  I can't kneel on it and it definitely has inflammation and fluid and is causing pain.  I am bummed.  Walking doesn't hurt so I plan to walk the race as fast as I can without pain.  The right knee is also a bit painful, so the takeaway is that as long as I am on aromatase inhibitors it does not look like I can run.  Like, at all.  I was not really pushing myself, and I had run other times with no problem, but I can't do this knee thing ad infinitum.  Power walking will be good enough and since DH gave me a gym membership for Christmas that is what I will do!

    Hope everyone is doing well!   I am doing a new eating plan - a food intolerance/sensitivity diet.  I eliminated sugar, soy, dairy, peanuts, corn, gluten, and eggs.  So far I have lost 7 lbs. and I am not feeling deprived, but finding things to eat is a bit of a challenge as they also need to be the cleanest food possible - pastured, organic, grass-fed, etc.

  • gonegirl
    gonegirl Member Posts: 1,871
    edited January 2014

    All exercise levels are welcome here, and, yup, any movement is exercise.

    My last round of chemo made it hard for me to even bend over and pick something. So I started with forcing myself to bend over and pick up small objects I dropped.

    Curve ball, I am so sorry you've been laid out. And I know that shakiness. Hate it.

    Yoga is getting a tiny bit easier for me. It's all baby steps. I don't downward dog, but I do table top and it's been getting slightly easier to pick myself up off the floor.

  • Warrior_Woman
    Warrior_Woman Member Posts: 1,274
    edited January 2014

    Curveball - It's always had to tell with online communications but I certainly hope you were not hurt by my comments.  I tend toward sarcasm to cope but I would never want to make anyone here feel badly...just the opposite.  Actually, chores and housekeeping are exercise and when I get into serious cleaning mode I will put on some music and really try to move with it to make cleaning more fun.  For each of us this is about trying to be as healthy as we can to fight cancer.  I guess I'm struggling with this new reality and I don't want cancer to take away any more than it already has.  Please know I am so very sorry if my comment is offensive.  

  • curveball
    curveball Member Posts: 3,040
    edited January 2014

    @Warrior_Woman, I have to admit that your remark hit a nerve, but your kind apology has me ready to bury the hatchet.

    Pax?

  • gonegirl
    gonegirl Member Posts: 1,871
    edited January 2014

    warrior. This is one life's moments where we can only do the best we can. I feel your frustration. Throwing up taught me quickly to back it down. And surgery has its own recovery too. It's all about dealing with life at that moment. But we're here to help each other vent the frustrations and figure out creative ways to deal with it all. Me? I used lifting my miniature Schnauzer onto the bed as a way to build stamina. First couple nights, one rep. Then two. Then on from there

  • Warrior_Woman
    Warrior_Woman Member Posts: 1,274
    edited January 2014

    Thanks Curveball & GritGirl!

  • Ginger48
    Ginger48 Member Posts: 1,978
    edited January 2014

    Special K, I am on a similar eating plan. Organic, pastured wherever possible. Protein with every meal. Mine also includes no grains at all (not even rice)and no alcohol. Have lost 20 pounds, have more energy and the SE that I had from my aromatase inhibitor are mostly gone. 

    Not much in the way of exercise as I have back muscle spasms for the past week. Overdid stretching at PT. 

  • curveball
    curveball Member Posts: 3,040
    edited January 2014

    Today's activity: grocery shopping. I got about half of it done, at one store. Now it's nap-time.

  • TwoHobbies
    TwoHobbies Member Posts: 2,118
    edited January 2014

    After no exercise during the week other than running myself ragged with various appointments and errands and crises, I did walk at the mall today for 45 minutes.  Curveball I sure remember being so scary weak and so I hope you'll start to see improvement soon. 

    Special K I kind of did a similar diet early last year and I had good success with it too.  I really didn't tolerate dairy except a little cheese and butter, and I also could not eat one square inch of white potato.  I'm so glad I did it.  My lifelong sinus headaches almost completely went away and I lost 10 lbs.  I am now eating more like Ginger and restricting all grains in attempts to lose another 10 or 15. 

  • gonegirl
    gonegirl Member Posts: 1,871
    edited January 2014

    specialk. So sorry to hear about the knees. Power walk away.

    That food plan sounds rough

  • curveball
    curveball Member Posts: 3,040
    edited January 2014

    @SpecialK, I thought I wrote this yesterday but must have forgotten to hit Submit. Maybe your new diet will reduce inflammation and pain in your knees. I've heard power-walking is just about as good exercise as running but much easier on the joints.

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