What foods are you eating to reduce recurrence?

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  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited January 2014

    Light, never mind. I managed to register. Will let you know.

  • lightandwind
    lightandwind Member Posts: 754
    edited January 2014

    Great! Hope it's a good one and well worth your time.Thanks Momine.

  • jessica749
    jessica749 Member Posts: 429
    edited January 2014

    This was kind of funny (not haha but) re how we can try and try but then…get bitten.  

    Not specific re cancer but about being healthy and then coming down with an illness…

    not that I will stop my efforts to eat healthy/kale, cruciferous vegetables, generally vegan and hormone/free pesticide free / BPA free products etc but…at the same time with a grain of salt (forgive the bad pun)

    http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/01/01/kale-juicing-trouble-ahead/?_r=0

  • Fallleaves
    Fallleaves Member Posts: 806
    edited January 2014

    jessica749, that was a funny essay; thanks for sharing! She cracked me up with her ending. Sometimes it feels like you can't win when you're trying to figure out the best diet, though. I went mostly vegan (except for fish) a year ago, and switched from butter to a vegan margarine made with palm fruit oil. Then I read that orangutan habitat was being destroyed for palm fruit plantations! So after that I had to make sure the vegan spread was made with sustainably grown palm fruit oil. Ack! 

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited January 2014

    Jessica, funny essay, and sort of supports my point in another thread about maintaining balance. Too much of a good thing is not necessarily an extra-good thing. Kale is healthy, but that doesn't mean that it is healthy to OD on the stuff.

    Fall, we just use olive oil. I have never used margarine and pretty much gave up butter when we moved to Greece (they only had sheep's butter back then, and I found it nasty). Mashed avocado, hummus, babaganoush or sundried tomatoes blended with garlic, olive oil and lots of parsley make good spreads for sandwiches, when needed, and for breakfast toast and the like I use nut butters.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited January 2014

    coconut oil in a cool climate is perfect for spreading

  • lightandwind
    lightandwind Member Posts: 754
    edited January 2014

    Love babaganoush! Eggplant is said to have cancer fighting properties. Ratatoullie is another great dish. Here's some really appetizing recipies. 

    http://breastcanceryogablog.com/tag/eggplant/

  • Fallleaves
    Fallleaves Member Posts: 806
    edited January 2014

    Momine, I really should just use nut butter or avocado instead of the spread. I love almond butter, but it's so darn expensive! I notice vegans are big on avocado on toast drizzled with olive oil, and sprinkled with salt and pepper, which sounds pretty tasty. For some reason I have a mental block with seeing avocado as a breakfast food, though! 

    Abigail, I should try the coconut oil on toast. I have some in my cupboard, and this time of year it is definitely solid!

  • simplelife4real
    simplelife4real Member Posts: 563
    edited January 2014

    I'm sorry I haven't gone back to this thread until today and didn't realize that I had been asked why I cut back on salt.  Salt produces an inflammatory response and cancer uses inflammation to spread.  I couldn't find anything about salt in the Anti-Cancer book.  I guess I just knew about salt and inflammation from my years of experience with autoimmune diseases (asthma and ulcerative colitis).  http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives/autoimmune-diseases-salt-drives-autoimmune-disease.html

    When I was first diagnosed with breast cancer and read about how inflammation aids cancer in the Anti-Cancer book, I must have just realized that salt was something that I wanted to cut out to reduce inflammation.  When I do use salt, I try to use sea salt.  I find having no salt is probably the hardest thing for me because I really like salty foods.  Today, I just try to use the minimum amount of salt possible to make food palatable.  (I'm currently doing neoadjuvant chemo so my tastebuds are out of whack.)  I hope that helps answer the question about why I choose to minimize salt consumption.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited January 2014

    Fall, yes, almond butter is ridiculously expensive. When I do spring for it, I hide it from my husband, since he can wolf down half the jar just standing around the kitchen. Plain old peanut butter is OK too, as far as I know, as long as you get the kind with no sugar or additives. It is usually much cheaper than the "fancy" nuts. I also use it on apples, when I have them for a snack. The fat and protein mediates the sugar in the fruit.

  • Fallleaves
    Fallleaves Member Posts: 806
    edited January 2014

    Lol, Momine, funny image you and your husband competing for the almond butter! 

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited January 2014

    Oh, my dear, you have no idea. The man is an eating machine.

  • agness
    agness Member Posts: 576
    edited February 2014

    I am trying to revisit the food lists given to me by my past acupuncturists (TCM practitioners). Depending on your pattern of imbalance some foods are better or worse for you. For Spleen qi deficiency spinach isn't good, not even cooked. You can eat it but eating collards of beet greens are better as they aren't cooking foods.

    Since folks were sharing recipes, you might like to try this pumpkin seed purée which is pretty easy to make and tastes really nice as a spread of a dip:

    http://m.wholefoodsmarket.com/recipe/pumpkin-seed-...

    I also added turmeric to our rice the other night, really simple way to add it in to the diet.

    Dates are okay on the lists of foods I was given as they are a blood building food but everything in moderation. I was a sugar-craving fiend but now I'm going to try to take better care if myself. Did you know that not drinking enough water or eating enough protein can make you crave simple sugars?

  • agness
    agness Member Posts: 576
    edited February 2014

    here is a link to an example of the "rules" around a spleen qi deficiency diet:

    http://www.eastmountain.ca/2spleenqi.pdf

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited February 2014

    momine - lol @ hiding the almond butter from your hubby. i love almond butter and love it with bread (whole grain). i tried it with green apple (i think you mentioned it)...still like it with bread better...sigh...but i absolutely do not have carb at dinner and try to have fruit before dinner. but i just broke the rule tonight hahaha.

    i love breakfast the most, bc i can have a piece or two pieces of bread. i am chinese, i am so used to carbs.

    someone mentioned drinking a glass of lemon juice in the morning, i also read that as well. my chinese friend told me and i found this article.

    http://www.cancerfightingstrategies.com/ph-and-can...

    the wholefoods market and farmers' market are my two best friends now. 

    i want to recommend a book by Nina Planck, Real Food, What to eat and Why. it's very helpful. its not about fighting cancer, just about food and milk in general. i love it. i use it as my grocery guide, i don't eat those hormonal meat and pesticide veggi anymore. i don't know if they're that helpful but i know one thing they're not going to do me harm. like piper said, i like food the way Good intended. 

  • Salina888
    Salina888 Member Posts: 96
    edited February 2014


    Quail Eggs, Turkey Tail Mushroom, Alkaline water.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited February 2014

    Juneping, I agree about sticking to "real" food as much as possible. I am a carb junkie too - not the Chinese kind, the Danish kind ;) When I started chemo, my blood sugar was a bit high, and chemo can make it worse, so I cut WAY back on carbs and eliminated all white carbs and sugar/honey/syrup. I also made exercise a priority, although it was only walking and often slow walking thanks to the SEs. It helped after a while. My blood sugar is back down into the healthy range.

  • Annie54
    Annie54 Member Posts: 247
    edited February 2014

    Hi All,

    Where does one buy turkey tail mushrooms?

  • Fallleaves
    Fallleaves Member Posts: 806
    edited February 2014

    Hi Annie54,

       Here's one place you can get the turkey tail mushrooms in pill form. I read in a column by Dr. Weil that this was the actual product used in one of the studies showing it helps the immune system of BC patients: http://www.vitacost.com/fungi-perfecti-host-defen...

    I think there are many mushrooms that are good for our immune systems. Right now I am taking maitake mushrooms and I have also taken the agaricus blazei. The reishi are supposed to be good, too. I am thinking of switching to a complex with many different types after I finish up the huge bottle of maitake I bought! 

  • lightandwind
    lightandwind Member Posts: 754
    edited February 2014

    Falleaves, I switch back and forth on the mushrooms too. I take this brand with the many different types now. I like it. I like reishi a lot too. Just feel better when I take them. 

    Annie, sometimes you can find them for a fair price on Amazon.com.

  • smrlvr
    smrlvr Member Posts: 422
    edited February 2014

    Can you cook with turkey tail mushrooms or are the only in supplement form?  I have never seen them in the produce section.  Also, what do you all know about digestive track immunity, ie. probiotics?  I have always had trouble with acid reflux. Now that I am changing what I eat, maybe I can do something for that as well.

  • Solen
    Solen Member Posts: 146
    edited February 2014

    I take a probiotic daily, I think how it can help us is by keeping our immune system working.  My son seems to really need them as well.  Without them, he becomes constipated and has tummy pains.

    I am going to ask about the turkey tail mushrooms at the farmers market tomorrow.  There is a "mushroom guy" who has every kind of mushroom, including medicinal ones.  I have never asked him, but now I will.  My son always makes me get mushrooms, he loves them, so I have been eating way more than I would on my own!

    I am trying to eat more fiber, less carbs and sugar, vegetarian meals at least a few times a week.  If nothing else, I am losing weight and feeling better.

  • BrooksideVT
    BrooksideVT Member Posts: 2,211
    edited February 2014

    You can grow your own mushrooms.  I have a log that should sprout shitake mushroooms next summer.  Other kinds, including turkey tail are available in kits. 

  • Fallleaves
    Fallleaves Member Posts: 806
    edited February 2014

    I'm thinking of getting one of those mushroom growing kits, too. I wonder how hard they are to grow? Beyond their health benefits I really love the way different mushrooms taste!

  • BrooksideVT
    BrooksideVT Member Posts: 2,211
    edited February 2014

    I went to a workshop last summer.  They had all the equipment you need (small logs, shallow drills, injector things, mushroom spores, wax to cover the injections).  Very simple process, but at least a year before you have a harvest, so patience is the most difficult component.

  • Solen
    Solen Member Posts: 146
    edited February 2014

    OH!!!!!  TOOO funny, my son and I HAVE been growing turkey tails in a kit and I didn't know what kind of mushrooms they were, we just harvested some and started growing the other side of the kit!  Didn't even know I was doing something good for myself, I was just indulging my kiddo's love of growing things and his love of mushrooms!

    Sometimes life is so amusing!

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited February 2014

    Apropos, I am making mushroom lasagne for dinner, lol.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited February 2014

    I making mushroom, leak carrot, potato soup, shitake for the mushrooms.  garlic, celery leaves, my spice mix, evoo, (if it truly is), coconut oil.  cooking as we speak

  • Solen
    Solen Member Posts: 146
    edited February 2014

    Abigail, that sounds yummy!  I made leek and potato soup last week.  My son asked about leeks.  LOL, he is an odd one!


  • Fallleaves
    Fallleaves Member Posts: 806
    edited February 2014

    Mmm, that soup sounds good, Abigail. So does mushroom lasagna, Momine. You guys are making me hungry...;)

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