Cutting out chemicals

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Of course, it's no secret that phthalates are bad, but here's a recent study titled, "Lower Concentrations of phthalates induce proliferation of human breast cancer cells." http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24228746

Which induced me to find a list of companies that produce phthalate free cosmetics (and other products)! This is put together by Breast Cancer Action. http://www.bcaction.org/our-take-on-breast-cancer/environment/safe-cosmetics/phthalate-free-cosmetics/

I feel like it is an uphill battle rooting out hazardous chemicals in all the products I use. If it's not the phthalates, it's the parabens or the BPA, or the gazillion other chemicals out there....

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  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited January 2014

    & how about stuff in the household air esp in winter.  no practicle way to get rid of that

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited January 2014

    Thanks for posting the link to the list of companies that don't use phthalates.  It would seem to me, in general, that most people don't even think about all the products they use on their body day in and day out.  It wasn't anything I thought about before bc.  I've done my best to replace products to paraben free ones and happily, I have found many economical ones including liquid soap, shampoo/conditioner/hair styling products, antiperspirant, facial moisturizer, and cosmetics like powder, foundation, blush, eyeliner, mascara, eye shadow, eyebrow pencil and lip gloss. I haven't found a hand cream yet that I like that is fragrance free and inexpensive.  But you can see that's a lot of stuff we use on our bodies every day.  Who really thinks about that stuff?

  • lmcclure4477
    lmcclure4477 Member Posts: 180
    edited January 2014

    I completely agree with you!  All of the chemicals people put on their body is so toxic!  I threw out all of my personal care products when I was diagnosed because they contained toxic chemicals. I now sell lemongrass spa products which are 97-100% organic and all natural. No parabens, phthalates, sulphites, PEG's, etc!!  It is all I use for personal care products and make-up!  I wish the FDA would start regulating the toxic products they sell in stores!!

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited January 2014

    who thinks about it?  I certainly do.  & what I've thought about for many many years is the ubiquitous poison we put on our faces & wear like skin on our bodies:  ie analin dyes aka coal tar dyes, to say nothing of what we ingest as "food coloring".  & colored sheets, none are dyed with onion or blueberries.  etc etc

  • Fallleaves
    Fallleaves Member Posts: 806
    edited January 2014

    Yeah, it really takes some work avoiding all the chemicals that might cause BC (and other things!) I really wish the EPA and FDA would be more proactive in banning endocrine disrupting chemicals. This article from October about BPA and breast cancer inspired me recently to cut out canned items (or use products from companies like muir glen or eden) http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/10/08/bpa-and-breast-cancer/2834461/

    Sounds like you guys are way ahead of me on the toxic free personal care products!

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited January 2014

    I have mentioned this site previously on other threads, but I find it to be a wealth of info:

    http://www.ewg.org/skindeep/

    You can search by specific product, or if you are looking for an alternative to something you are already using, you can look by category or item type for suggestions.

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited January 2014

    Hi, Special K, thanks for mentioning the skindeep site for those who don't know about it; it's so informational.  You recommended it to me a while ago and I often use it as a reference for products I'm considering buying.  Happy New Year to you.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited January 2014

    divine - Hi!!!  I love that site!  It actually went down a number of months ago for revamping and I was so disappointed, so glad it is back.  I love that it is so broad - you can pretty much find the 411 out on so many different things.  Happy New Year to you too!

  • Scandophile
    Scandophile Member Posts: 71
    edited January 2014

    When I was first diagnosed, I went straight to my bathroom and got rid of ALL my beauty products. I have been slowly replacing them with organic, natural, chemical free and plant-based products. I've also been slowly replacing the cleaning products and laundry detergent. I don't even use dryer sheets anymore.

  • Fallleaves
    Fallleaves Member Posts: 806
    edited January 2014

    SpecialK, I like the EWG database for cosmetics, too. In fact I just used it to look for a low-rated foundation to buy online (I'm looking rather pale at the moment, as I threw out all my old ones!) They have lots of good information on pesticides in various fruits and vegetables that I've found useful, as well. I actually just sent them a contribution, because I think they are doing such a great job on environmental/health issues.

    Scandophile, I stopped using dryer sheets, too! (The static cling is killing me....) And I switched to Ecos laundry detergent. I have a friend who makes her own laundry detergent, but I'm too lazy so far.

  • maevictor
    maevictor Member Posts: 12
    edited January 2014

    fallleaves try a 1/4 cup vinegar in the rinse cycle.  My husband is allergic to those things so I learned this a while ago.

  • Fallleaves
    Fallleaves Member Posts: 806
    edited January 2014

    For the static cling? Thanks, maevictor!

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited January 2014

    but what for the color in lipstick, makeup, eyeliner etc?

  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 1,595
    edited January 2014

    I think about the toxic load in my home a lot these days.  I focused on my diet first.  It will always have room for improvement, but I used canned goods so seldom nowadays.  I didn't even know how to use the electric canopener at my mom's house recently when I decided to use canned corn one night for dinner. 

    Every time I see a label that says 'BPA free', I just can't help but think about Saddam Hussein's two sons who were purportedly way more evil than Saddam himself.  So what if it's BPA-free.  What are they using in its place and is it truly an improvement?  Even the receipts from the grocery store have BPA in them. 

    Since I started targeting cleaning products in my home, I've been very pleased with results I get using essential oils.  I love having something non toxic for cleaning my hands and kitchen counters that will kill germs effectively.  Adding plain ol white vinegar in the washing machine gets my laundry way cleaner than just detergent alone.  For the dryer, there's a vendor at my farmer's market with an alpaca farm, and he makes fuzzy balls from the wool.  I put essential oils on the ball for a fragrance I like best, and many oils also kill germs that might be lurking in the laundry.  Can't say it completely eliminates static though.  ...and the same balls make great cat toys too.  I've looked in the pet stores for toys without synthetic materials and can't find any. 

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited January 2014

    Selecting products with less chemicals, ones that don't contain parabens, ect., actually helps in the purchasing process.  SO many products fill the shelves.  My son who's in college is amazed that there are entire stores dedicated to only make-up, as he's been with me when I've popped into places like Ulta and Bare Minerals.  I can easily get overwhelmed by all there is to chose from but checking ingredients eliminates a lot that I won't consider now.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited January 2014

    As some of you may be aware, I actually created a website a few months ago to share the wonderful, 100% natural skin care products I've found in my quest  over the past few years to eliminate chemicals from my own and my family's personal care products. Like you, I rely on the EWG's Cosmetics Datebase for info' on brand name make up.  But the skin care products on my website are from very small manufacturers -- too small for EWG to care about testing or listing, which is often the case with some great, natural products.  If anyone's interested, there's a link on my bio page.  I also have a FB page (Healing Finds) with lots links to pertinent articles on this topic.     Deanna 

  • Fallleaves
    Fallleaves Member Posts: 806
    edited January 2014

    Hi Deana,

    That's a really nice website you put together. I like supporting smaller businesses, and it's nice to have an opportunity to order products I might not run across otherwise. Thanks!

  • Rakovina
    Rakovina Member Posts: 132
    edited January 2014

    Hi,

    I actually started the process of removing as many chemicals as possible from my home a couple of years prior to my bc dx.  Most things can be made at home from simple products.  I wash my hair with bi-carb disolved in warm water and rinse with cider vinegar (no smell after it dries).  My hair has never been healthier, shinier or softer.  This wont work if you dye your hair, it will take the colour out very quickly.

    I make our soap with of olive oil and coconut oil, DH now cant use any other soap as they make him itch.  Its a little more effort to make your own cleaners ect, but much cheaper, and you know exactly what is in them.  I have lots of recipes if anyone is interested.

    Tanya

  • Fallleaves
    Fallleaves Member Posts: 806
    edited January 2014

    I would love some of your recipes, Tanya, if you don't mind sharing. 

  • Mommyathome
    Mommyathome Member Posts: 1,111
    edited January 2014

    Can someone tell me things to avoid in order to prevent reoccurrence of breast cancer? Also I have 3 daughters that I would like to protect as much as possible! What things should we avoid? Specific food, chemicals etc. also what things help to prevent cancer? Thanks for any information offered!!!!!

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited January 2014

    One of the best books to read on food/diet/nutrition is: Anticancer: A New Way of Life by David Servan-Schreiber.

    The author was a physcian/neuroscientist researcher who, at age 31, was diagnosed with a malignant brain tumor.  This sent him on a path to dig deeply into the medical and scientific literature in search of ways to live longer than the few years he was expected to survive.  He went on to live almost 20 years after his diagnosis, passing away in 2011.

    It is an easy to read book full of information and has a 5 star-the highest-rating on Amazon.

  • Mommyathome
    Mommyathome Member Posts: 1,111
    edited January 2014

    Thanks the divine mrs m! I'll have to look for that!!!

  • kyliet
    kyliet Member Posts: 687
    edited January 2014

    Racovina, I would also love some of your recipes. 

    Starting several months before being diagnosed I started reacting badly to cleaning products or anything which smelt of chemicals; and I still vomit if I go to a bathroom which has just been cleaned with strong cleaner. I believe my body is telling me som

  • Rakovina
    Rakovina Member Posts: 132
    edited January 2014

    Please tell me what recipes you would like, I make soap, household cleaners, lip balms, hand scrubbers ect  The only cleaning product I dont make is dishwashing detergent.  I'm still working on finding a solution to that.  I will start with a few general cleaners.

    Laundry Powder

    4 cups grated pure soap or soap flakes (lux) if you dont want to grate soap

    2 cups borax

    2 cups washing soda

    Mix together and use 2 tablespoons for a small load and 3 tablespoons for a large or dirty load of washing.  I have used this in top loader, front loader and HE machines.  I dont use fabric softeners, instead I use 1/2 cup of white vinegar.

    Creamy Cleaner - gumption/ajax type of thing

    1/2 cup bi-carb (baking soda) mixed with 1/2 tablespoon of dishwashing (not dishwasher) detergent and water if needed to make a paste.  Use immediately.  If you want to make it in bulk and store it, then add 1 teaspoon of glycerine per cup of baking soda to keep it from going rock hard. 

    Citrus Cleaner

    Large glass jar, half fill with white vinegar.  Throw in any citrus peel (removing as much pith as possible).  When full leave for a couple of weeks and strain.  I put it into a spray bottle and dilute with water about 50:50 for wiping down kitchen benches, tables ect.  Straight is good for cutting through greasy marks.  Smells great.

    Wood Furniture Polish

    1 teaspoon olive oil

    1/2 cup white vinegar or fresh lemon juice

    Place in a glass jar and shake.  Use soft cloth to wipe onto furniture and polish with another soft cloth.

    Tanya

  • Fallleaves
    Fallleaves Member Posts: 806
    edited January 2014

    Thanks for the recipes, Tanya! They look pretty easy to put together. Is it hard to make your own soap?

    Mommyathome, I agree with thedivinemrsm that the Anticancer book was very helpful. There's a website for it, too: http://www.anticancerbook.com/ It has an Anticancer Guide with a lot of the information that is in the book.

  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 1,595
    edited January 2014

    I just got a boatload of grapefruit from a neighbor's tree last week.  So glad to have that citrus cleaner recipe!  Thanks.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2014

    This is a great thread! Im another one who thinks about this a lot.

    Rakovina thanks for your recipes. I too would like to see your recipe for soap. 

    Over the years I have ditched many things. Guess what? Correspondingly your grocery bill goes waaay down. There is just so much I don't need to buy. 

    Just off the top of my head, heres some of the changes Ive made. 

    - use rocksalt for deodorant

    - use organic dishwashing liquid and rinse dishes before drying

    - No mod con Air fresheners, cleaners and the like

    - hope to get wash nuts (cant remember the name) as soon as laundry powder runs out and I had a big bag so thats why its taken ages.

    - ditched toothpaste and use baking soda

    - only use extra sens dove (only 1 paraben i think) for any soap I need including washing my long hair.

    - not one for too much makeup but use a better option for what I do use (no scented stuff)

    - Organic coconut oil

    - Unscented loo paper

    - Organic weed spray - Caveat, Roundup is evil evil evil. Monsanto has a lot to answer for.

    - Non sprayed veges except I did use copper on tomatoes this year or I wouldve lost them - The alternative DOESNT bear thinking about

    - Buy local product where possible

    - NO aspartame, GMOs MSG where possible. (they sneak this stuff in under spineless legislation)

    - I am gingerly trying the only tinned fruit I can find that doesnt appear to have that Bisphenol A stuff in the lining of the can.

  • Fallleaves
    Fallleaves Member Posts: 806
    edited February 2014

    Musical, I am definitely trying not to buy food in cans anymore unless it comes in cans specifically labeled, BPA-free. Kinda means I have to plan ahead more (soaking and cooking beans), which is a pain.

    Just saw this article about chemicals in food packaging. It's about time we started looking at the effects on our health!

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/02/140219205215.htm

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2014

    Quote:

    "They point out that lifelong exposure to food contact materials or FCMs -- substances used in packaging, storage, processing, or preparation equipment -- "is a cause for concern for several reasons."

    These include the fact that known toxicants, such as formaldehyde, a cancer causing substance, are legally used in these materials."

    Unquote

    Absolutely agree we need to look at this. I think so-called progress
    is not so wonderful afterall. Plastics are extremely hard to completely
    get out of our lives. They have so many chemicals in them, it should
    raise a red flag just with some basic thought and common sense. eg, I
    bought some meat a couple a months ago in that cling wrap stuff and I
    questioned the chemical smell emanating from it.  The supermarket
    said they'd look into it. The
    answer was unsurprisingly "theres nothing any different to how its
    always been" ... yeah right. Call me cynical but you can't believe what they say.

    If it's solid proof of what
    constitutes safety then I wouldn't hold my breath govt bodies have got
    it right or that they won't lie. Indeed quite the opposite. Too many believe what the so-called
    official standing is as if the authorities cant possibly be corrupt.

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