2013 Running Thread
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I am starting chemo shortly. Just when I get back to running I need to do the chemo.
FairyDogMother - What do you think caused your weight gain with the chemo? I really want to avoid it. I know it is a SE of Cytoxan, Taxotere but 30 lbs. seems like a lot for an active person.
I really hope to keep moving. I hope to keep running. I have a trail near my home to run on and avoid being around germy people. When the weather is bad I will still hit the gym. I just won't touch anything. That's my plan but if anyone has advice I'd appreciate it.
I am petite - 4'11". Every extra pound weighs me down. Any advice for managing weight during chemo?
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Well, I'm under 40 and women under 40 tend to gain weight on chemo. This is what I eat: breakfast siggi's yogurt or oatmeal, lunch salad or soup (low calorie like Healthy Choice) small proportions due to my lack of appetite, dinner baked salmon fished, chicken,steak, rice or pasta. I don't eat creamy sauce mostly EVO on pasta. I normally drink 84-92 oz of water a day. Snacks: grapefruit, banana, apple. I use the blender to to put banana, apple, and orange in add water for my smoothie since I'm having allergic reactions to chemo and can't swallow somedays. I would say my calories intake a day are around 1,300. I log everything I put in my mouth during chemo.
I'm on steroids with my chemo, so that might not help. I drink 130 oz of water from day 1 of chemo to day 4 of chemo to flush it out. I try to do 15 to 30 minutes of exercise a day. I at least get 1 mile in running or walking. If I can't run due to the Peripheral neuropath I get on the recumbent bike and ride for 3 miles. What sucks is for the last year I started running and changing my eating habits, because I knew I would get cancer (mother 33yo grandmother 60yo 2 first cousins 60), I lost 30 lbs and since chemo I have gain 15 lbs back. The doctors told me by getting into shape probably helped my Felix (tumor) from metastasizing, since my exercise helps your WBC fight infections.
Like today is day 3 post chemo and I'm sick as a dog, I have no energy, can't breathe due to throat being swollen, and can barely walk to the bathroom. So later on today I will go into our home gym and get on the bike for 15 minutes. I find motivation for others on days like these. I also have a fever I'm fighting, but I will not give in to the chemo crap. After that I will nap. I guess you can say I'm stubborn, but I find if you keep moving forward the better in the long run. I'm a warrior.
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FairyDogMother, you most definitely are a warrior! I am astonished that on a day when you're feeling so sick, you will still work out. Bravo to you for running and eating well and losing 30 lbs. That's health in the bank, I'm sure, not just in minimizing your cancer but in getting back to running and feeling good once you're able. I bet the steroids do have a lot to do with your weight gain, because on 1300 calories a day, nobody should be gaining. All the detail you've given is going to be really helpful to anyone who reads it.
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So with what little energy I have I just did 15 minutes on the recumbent bike for 2.3 miles with my fever. I hope the steriods are causing the weight gain. My times on running are slow I'm at the worst times every 15 min-18 min/mile depending if I have to walk. I figured I'm beating people on the couch. How many others are out there going through chemo doing exercise. That is why I love this group. They encourage everyone. They let us vent. You guys are my team. Thank you.
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Warrier Woman -- I gained about 7 pounds while doing 4 rounds of TC chemo but its coming back off now that I'm done. I blame the weight gain on lack of activity due to exhaustion, the steroids, and the fact that I had less nausea when I had food in my stomach. My nurse told me that it is common for people to gain weight on chemo, and that they would prefer that to having their patients lose weight. For the most part, I tried to do what I could each day and to eat what I needed to eat without worrying about my weight, but that isn't always easy! Good luck with chemo! I didn't find it to be as bad as I thought it would be!
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fairydogmother, I did not have to go through the chemo you're fighting with now, but I had steroids with pneumonia a couple of times, and it did make me gain weight -- visibly puffy weight -- no matter what I ate. It also made me feel like Superman, and I wiped myself out overextending, so take care of yourself and be careful not to overdo it toooo much. Definitely listen to any fatigue you feel.
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Helppppp! I just came across a thread titled: Beware: Athletes who choose reconstruction may regret it. The discussion is focused on the inability to return to previous levels of athletic ability after reconstruction using tissue expanders because of the changes to the pectoral muscles. As a runner and moderate weight lifter this really frightened me. If there is anyone here who has had the same surgery and has resumed their physical activity without impairment please post. I need the reassurance. I am hoping the complications are more the exception than the rule.
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Warrior_Woman Thanks for the post. We were thinking once chemo is done about doing a mastectomy. Great information to share.
I'm not able to do anything this week. After Chemo#3 I have the flu, so for the last four days I have been with fever and on bed rest. I have had flu, before but flu with chemo just sucks.
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FairyDogMother - I start chemo next week and it is flu season. I plan to live in a bubble. Get well!
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FairyDogMother, what a crappy combination! I hope you are past the worst of it.
Warrior Woman, that's a scary thread! I think what's needed should go beyond anecdotal evidence. People who respond to a thread like that are probably disproportionately self-selected to be the unlucky cases. I bet there's real research on this.
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RunFree - That is what I'm hoping. People who are doing well don't read or post on certain threads.
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Warrior-Woman: speaking for myself here.....I've always been a naturally athletic person. I wasn't exceptionally active for many years while raising my children but lost a bunch of weight several years ago (kids were in high school at the time) and then joined a new local gym. I achieved a level of fitness not seen since my high school days. While BC and the reconstruction process did put a hitch in my fitness git-along I'm really able to do whatever I'm capable of and willing to do. If I stay faithful to a routine the strength and abilities come right back. I'm not a body builder but really have not noticed that my strength or lifting capabilities have been compromised. If I'm weaker or less fit than I was before it's simply because I haven't been as faithful as I should be
. I'm really limited more by issues related to age than reconstruction. Basal thumb joint arthritis makes it difficult to properly grip a barbell or dumb-bell and weight bearing activities like push-ups, crab crawls and burpees are painful and sometimes impossible. If it weren't for the arthritis I would consider myself as having no physical limitations.
As I said above, this is just my experience. Some PSs advise little or no upper body work forever. My PS gave me the greenlight for anything and everything I want to do. Best of luck to you. If you're on this thread I know you're a tenacious person. You'll get there, don't worry! You're just a month out from BMX. When I was at that point I couldn't imagine being able to lift anything heavier than a glass of milk ever again!
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Sweet&Special - I appreciate your story. Thank you!
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22 min on the dreadmill and 30min of yoga. Getting back in the game. I need to find some 5Ks to get me pumped and keep me motivated. Has anyone started the 2014 running thread yet?
I am excited to see what everyone has planned this year!
I know tons of people doing the PGH half marathon. I do not plan on doing another long run for some time but may sign on for the 5K.
And planning on doing the Great Race 10K again in the fall.
I would start the running thread but often find I have large spreads of time when I am not online here.
lots of hugs to all and keep warm ladies and gent
xoxoxoxoxoxo
Piper
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Warrior Woman-
I read at some point that after reconstruction the best type of lifting is with light weights and more repetitions. That made sense to me. Realistically so much of what we do in life (putting grocery bags in the car, etc.) involves chest muscles. So clearly some activity is fine. Heavy weights just make me concerned about putting too much stress on everything involved in the reconstruction, including the ribs.
My 2 cents!
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Corpor - And I really feel those TRs on my rib about now. Do you too?
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Hi all,
I haven't been on BCO in a while so I just speed-read lots of posts and can't remember exactly who posed what issue.
Weight gain during chemo: I'm thin and I struggled to maintain my weight through chemo. I ended up taking half the recommended dose of steroids before taxol: I was told to take five pills 12 hours before taxol, and five more six hours before; I accidentally-on-purpose slept through the second five and then decided it was too late to take them. I fessed up to my medical oncologist, who said since I had no adverse effects I could do the half-dose the rest of the time, and I did. Moral: ask your medical oncologist to let you try a lower dose of steroids??
Reconstruction: I did a lot of research, including meeting with a plastic surgeon and posting a query on BCO on a thread for women who opted against reconstruction. Their responses bolstered me in my decision not to get a tissue expander when I got my mastectomy (October 2013). Every woman's decision is her own and I strongly encourage you to do research before assuming reconstruction is the way to go -- there is a lot of tacit pressure to do it, but when you really examine the trade-offs, for some of us it's not worth it, especially if we're small-breasted to begin with, and appreciate our bodies for their function (I love to run and feel strong and powerful!).
I wrote a blog post with more thoughts and info on this dilemma:
http://alaskamamaruns.blogspot.com/2013/09/breasts...
Running: Ugh! Letrozole is killing me. Walking and/or running just about daily. Eked out four miles on the treadmill yesterday in 44 minutes, but it was hard. I feel like a 90-year-old in the body of a 42-year old! Anyone have advice for Letrozole side effects, other than keep pushing through exercise? I'm going to eat the leftover L-Glutamine from taxol and see if that helps make me feel less achy.
Thank you all for this great community!
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Alaskamamma, re letrozole, I have regular massages and I'm now trying magnesium. The thought being that if my muscles are relaxed, movement will be easier, relaxing the muscles more....etc. I'll let you know how I progress!
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Hello from the World!
I did the 10K today, and wow! I think the best 10K time I ever had was 78 minutes, and I did it today in 76. Not that it was fast, but personal best, I'll take it!
It was a nice course and well organized (but no powerade on the 10K- good to know for next time). At the 5 mile point, I really did not want that last loop around the Epcot resort lake :-) but that was just mental and I finished strong.
I feel fine for tomorrow's half (we will see tomorrow if my impression is valid!) I was consciously not pushing myself at all at any point today, and was surprised to see my mile-to-mile pace tracking so well. My heart rate was up to 187 at the peak, which is crazy for my age, but I did not go into v-fib, so it must be okay!
This last-minute training binge and trying to impress the shiny new Garmin was good for me!
I also had some really intense massage on my abs last week and it's really breaking up that DIEP scar tissue. It hurts so much that I would never do it that thoroughly on my own, but I can tolerate it if the massage therapist does it. I had physio right after and the difference was obvious, and I think it helped the running.
Am stuffed with pasta and cupcakes and just counting down to bedtime and the 3am alarm.
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WW- Oh yeah, I feel them! It's odd, the biggest problem isn't even true pain, it is unbelievable pressure from the TE's. Especially if my hubby tries to hug me, and that is the part that totally stinks.
Corpor
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Corpor - When I run I pretend the TEs are my sports bra. We have the same TE discomforts.
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Congratulations goldlining and good luck tomorrow ! Sounds like so much fun!
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goldlining--Awesome Job on the 10K!
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goldlining, love your 10K report! Congrats on the PR! You're running the half as I write this--hope it's a great day!
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goldlining - whoo hoo on the PR! That's great. Hope you have/had a great half today. Are you doing the Dopey Challenge by any chance?
I managed to get my four scheduled runs in this week. I'm pretty happy about that since it meant going out in really cold weather. Hopefully the warm spell we are having today and tomorrow will melt the ice around the neighbourhood!
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Goldlining, sweeeeeeeeet! You are amazing! Anxious to hear about the half, which you're probably running as we speak! Is this the Dopey that you are doing? Crazy kid . . .
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WOOT GOLD!!!! GO GIRL. Cannot wait for the Half report.
xoxoxo
Piper
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It warmed up here in freezing Duluth, MN and I went out for a beautiful one hour cross-country ski today! It's not quite running but its my first real exercise since my painful axillary lymph mode dissection a month ago and the end of chemo two months ago! I am out of shape but happy to be on my way back!!'
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I have to say I am SOOOOO glad I am not doing the full marathon tomorrow! Those people (groovygirls??) are INSANE! I did not do the 5k (the medal is rubber and didn't justify another $250 worth of hotel) so not eligible for Dopey, and in any case, I don't have a full marathon in me so no Goofy either. But the 10K/Half combination does have a bonus medal at Disneyland so when that registration opens up on the 28th, I think I'll book both of them for Labour Day weekend and so I will get the coast to coast bonus medal and the 10k/half bonus medal along with the two event medals. Bring the bling!
My pace for the Half was the SAME as my 10K pace! No detriment from the 10K. Actually, my moving pace was better, but my tummy demanded a potty stop in Tomorrowland, and it took 3 minutes and 30 seconds, most of which was wrestling the damned sweaty compression tights off and back on. It is like wrangling a boa constrictor!
It was humid and the temp worked up to 82F or so (not at 04:00 when I left the hotel, but even then it was warm enough to wear a tank top and no wrap over it), and the threatened sprinkles did not come to pass.
After the potty stop, I had some difficulty getting my pace back to what it was before that, and went from 12 to 12:30 / mile to 13 to 13:30 / mile. Mentally it was challenging about 9-10 miles in, when I started doing the math and thinking if I'd pushed more at 5 miles, I could PR that too.
Even so, despite training that consisted of about 5 40-minute treadmill stints, all in the last month, I improved 2 minutes from November (5'30 if you count the bathroom break, which I did not have to do in November). For comparison, if you subtract the 3'30, it would be within 2 minutes of my pre-BC PR. I don't know what it was that I ate. I tried so hard to avoid allergens. I even asked the "chef" what was in the marinara sauce after a bad reaction to spaghetti at Disneyland. One of my colleagues thinks it's GM ingredients using fish DNA, so being allergic to fish makes me react adversely to these vegetables. I don't know, but it's unpleasant.
I've left that resort and moved over to SeaWorld area for business and will play it by ear whether I go to a park tomorrow. I have NO injuries (ligaments and such), just stiff thighs. I have to tell myself not to look at those young, fast-looking people and feel inadequate, because at 10 miles, they're all standing stretching on a lamp post and I'm cruising past alternating running and walking. There were 10,000 people who beat me, but I beat the other 10,000!
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Goldlining, congrats, kid!!!
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