October 2013 Chemotherapy

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  • VintageGal1111
    VintageGal1111 Member Posts: 705
    edited December 2013


    Hi JayBird


    I guess many of us notice how the calls/emails dwindle unless we are one of the lucky ones with a very close active support system.


    That said: I was pleasantly surprised to find some acquaintances I didn't have much contact with before really have made an effort to stay in touch & how some life long friends ignored me. Ya never know! I got messages & cards the first couple months from people. But not anymore...maybe because my treatment is so long...a year...??!!!! I know one gal I told in Aug of my diagnosis never called, so I spoke to her the other day, she thought after all this time I was all *done* & fine. (sigh)


    Hey Gals, Do you have a support group in your town, at the hospital or somewhere that meets weekly or monthly? The cancer center has one I hope to attend once a month. I am also hoping to find out about my insurance covering some mental health visits.


    Hang in there! This forum is great support!

  • Pam358
    Pam358 Member Posts: 294
    edited December 2013


    Kbeee - your nights sound very similar to mine, but I think mine are hot flashes instead of warm flashes. :-)

  • Furfriend2
    Furfriend2 Member Posts: 299
    edited December 2013


    I know there is a support group here but with my work hours I am not able to meet. Quite frankly I think I would be too tired to go as I just don't have the energy right now for anything sadly.

  • Headeast
    Headeast Member Posts: 619
    edited December 2013


    no support group for me, but a lady at another thread just shared a dvd yoga that I bought (now) Thriving yoga for Breast Cancer patients. I needed to start and this is the perfect time!

  • VintageGal1111
    VintageGal1111 Member Posts: 705
    edited December 2013


    I had my 4th (of 12) Taxol today, so far so good. I did ask to have my steroid/decadron dose lower, it was down to 8, so today it was halved to 4. I like it in some ways, go go go all day chemo day, feel great & next day too but geesh no sleep. And then crash by Friday. Hopefully this will be enough to do it's job but not too much.


    My wbc was almost normal rbc still low but looks like the anemia is on its way out! YAY!


    No Herception SEs that I can figure. A couple nurses thought I was half way through my weekly Taxol, oh how I wish.


    2 hour season finale 10-12 of Sons of Anarchy tonight (only show I follow) so glad I am feeling awake. I even made some gluten free cookies. Nice to feel *normal*.


    Hope you Ladies are doing ok. I didn't see much for new posts but will check in later.


    VintageGal

  • TeamKim
    TeamKim Member Posts: 568
    edited December 2013


    Hi all -- just checking in. Finally getting a couple of "normal" days before next tx. I get the first half of my last (yay!) tx on Thursday -- the C part. Then the following Wednesday I get something to replace the Taxotere -- either abraxane or taxol, they will let me know. Whichever it is, hopefully I will not get the extreme skin reactions this time. I am just hoping to have taste buds back in time for Christmas dinner. I am cooking -- chateaubriand -- and it would be a shame if I can't taste it.


    I have thought of BCO as my support group -- don't know where I would be without you all. For everyone who gets their cocktails this week, here's hoping the SEs are minimal -- ((hugs))

  • smrlvr
    smrlvr Member Posts: 422
    edited December 2013


    Vintagegal, love the Sons. Loved the finale. Still can't sleep.

  • lgkgde13
    lgkgde13 Member Posts: 164
    edited December 2013


    hi all, checking in 2 wks since last dose of AC. Feeling pretty good. Still tire very easily but suspect that will improve over next week. Yesterday kids were home from school bc of snow and I actually had enough energy to shovel the driveway. Luckily it was soft and only few inches but man I was knocked out after that! Last Thursday hemoglobin was 8.2 so prob on way up now. My eyebrows and lashes are looking a bit pathetic but happy that I still have some.


    I have fuzz on my head sparse but there. Should I shave that now and let all good hair grow now since I am now done?

  • SchoolCounselor
    SchoolCounselor Member Posts: 452
    edited December 2013


    glad you guys are checking in. Good luck Kim. Hoping for no allergic reactions! Lgk shovel snow, two weeks out. Wow!!! Good question about the hair. I would be curious to know. All my brown hair fell out and it left my greys!! Does the hair keep falling out or does it grow back before the end if chemo? I have one TC left and the my exchange. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Shifting from warrior mode to survival mode!!

  • lgkgde13
    lgkgde13 Member Posts: 164
    edited December 2013


    schoolcounselor- yeah one more treatment....that's great!!! I had some that never fell out as well and some new pieces. I know specialk said to cut it bc it is not healthly. Just wondering when bed time to do that. I think I will this weekend since it will be almost 3 wks since last treatment. I have exchange too but think I might wait a bit to get this extra weight off. I only have one to do but they are lifting the other and since I am bigger now bc if new weight I am hoping to take some off before exchange.


    One thing I noticed during chemo I was hungry all the time and needed to eat. Now my appetite is back to normal and maybe a bit lower?? Anyone else experience that?

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited December 2013


    Sending out hugs to everyone today. I do read but am mostly too dim to post. I think about you all and hold you in my heart. xo

  • uds17
    uds17 Member Posts: 183
    edited December 2013


    Hi everyone!


    I just need to share something that I haven't been able to say yet to those around me. It kind of annoys me that people keep telling me "You look great! No one would ever know what you're going through." I mean, especially at work, I want to look and act like myself so the focus is on my patients and not on any change they may notice in me. However, outside of work, I don't feel like me. I'm tired and feel like I have minimal capacity to deal with stress. I've actually been doing well, but it takes a lot of (emotional) energy to keep things going. I think I just want there to be some understanding that just because I don't look like crap it doesn't mean that this is a walk in the park. Does this make sense to you??


    Thanks for letting me vent.

  • uds17
    uds17 Member Posts: 183
    edited December 2013


    Thanks for the hugs, Wrenn! Right back at ya!!

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited December 2013


    Uds, I know what you mean. It feels like they are minimizing what we are going through and I think they are doing that for our sake and for their own because they can't imagine going through it themselves. I recently noticed a photo on FB of an old friend who looked fantastic and I emailed her and joked about how she hasn't aged and looked great. Turns out she is just finishing up radiation and has been in a living hell for 3 years. She was diagnosed in 2010 and since then has had mets twice, chemo and radiation twice and 4 surgeries because of many complications. arggghhhh.


    On an unrelated note. I may have shaved my head for nothing. Day 17 and no hair loss or indication that it might happen. :-)

  • SchoolCounselor
    SchoolCounselor Member Posts: 452
    edited December 2013


    Hi uds,


    I took off work for the duration of my treatment, so kudos to you! I think people say that to make themselves feel better. They have no idea, and I hope they never do, how hard this is. I speak to people only on my good days, someone called me today and I could barely speak form exhaustion. She said "bad day", I said "yes" she said "okay. bye". That;s what I needed no apologies.


    I also make sure I am put together when I go out, makeup etc, but that's just a facade, people grab that because the other option is unthinkable.


    Hang in there (((((hugs)))))

  • Headeast
    Headeast Member Posts: 619
    edited December 2013


    lgk, I was hungry (am) too! I am on my second week past chemo and hoping hunger will leave my house!

  • VintageGal1111
    VintageGal1111 Member Posts: 705
    edited December 2013


    uds17


    makes sense to me! I posted something similar I think....it is a struggle, I don't feel or look like me, & when people say I look good & chemo must *agree* with me I kinda want to scream! Or at least vent & tell them I feel like crap & do they want a list of the side effects I am dealing with? LOL


    We're traveling this road together, we understand! Vent here anytime!

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited December 2013


    I work with all guys. We are like family and they, being guys, are brutally honest. One or two days they have said, "go home and sleep; you look like crap." Other days they have said I look great. the nice thing is that when they say I look good, I know they mean it, and I am glad that I look good...even if it is a facade...I can go to the store...or wherever...knowing I look ok, and don't necessarily look like a sick cancer patient. On days they say it when I feel really rotten and someone says i look good, I simply say that I am really glad that I don't look as rotten as I feel! Since they are honest, I can be honest back, and no one is offended.

  • Viji
    Viji Member Posts: 195
    edited December 2013


    uds, I totally agree with you and all the comments the other ladies have made. People don't really want to know the list of bad SEs we can give anyone who really wants to listen. And we all try to make it easy on people we meet and say yeah we are coping with it all right. But only we know what these toxic chemicals are doing to our bodies.


    I dread going back to work next year and facing the "How are you feeling" questions because i don't think you can answer that honestly except to a few close friends. Thank heavens for this site where we can vent whenever we want.


    I am sure you are all familiar with the painting "The Scream"? Well that is how I really feel. I took a similar picture of myself for a record of how crappy this has all been in reality. I really look like the original which I am posting below.



    image

  • Pam358
    Pam358 Member Posts: 294
    edited December 2013


    uds - totally makes sense to me too! It actually happened twice today. I have started listing off some side effects to people so they don't think it's a walk in the park, but you can only do that with some people. I've also changed some of my wording...some of the "I'm doing well" or "I'm good" comments have turned into "Today is a good day" and "I'm hanging in there." But like schoolcounselor said, I put my best foot forward when I leave the house to do something, so that's what others see - takes a lot of energy.


    The interesting thing to me is that it is not unlike, in the general population, when people ask others how they are and don't even wait for an answer. A pet peeve of mine. Maybe through all of this we are reminded that it is important to take "real" time for each other.

  • MsJean63
    MsJean63 Member Posts: 42
    edited March 2014

    i'm doing the happy dance, well at least waving my arms around, cause i'm sitting in bed.  I made it through my 2 of 12 taxol today.  

    Yesterday I was so miserable, hadn't slept in two days, crying, did not want to go today. My worst SE have been heart palpitations, on a 30 day recorder.  I was so hoping it was the AC, but I still had an event yesterday and it broke me, I couldn't take it anymore. 

    Today,I took a xanax before I went, got benedryl in my pre-meds and I was out cold before the benedryl was finished, slept thru the pepcid and 50 minutes of the taxol.  Only reason I woke up was nurse sitting at the desk asking what's that noise and my fiance said it was me snoring.  I stumbled to the car, fiance got me lunch and I was out cold again.  I woke up a new person, smiling and happy.  Next week will be chemo half way point, I made it half way, I'll make it the rest.  Agreeded being done will be great but making it half way is a major milestone for me.

    Take the good moments, forget the bad, take chemo out cold, and the world is a better place :-)

  • smrlvr
    smrlvr Member Posts: 422
    edited December 2013


    uds - I agree with you about that comment. It does minimize what we are going through. My mother says "you look good" to me all the time. I don't know what she expects I should look like. It does take work and mental energy to be "on" for people. We are only staying at my sisters for one night for Christmas instead of 2. I just need to be me.

  • TeamKim
    TeamKim Member Posts: 568
    edited December 2013


    Uds & others, I totally agree. The "You look great!" comments rankle, and they seem to elicit a listing of some of my "bumps in the road" -- I get this evil need to see them look horrified sometimes. Just depends on the day, though, because other times I feel complimented because it is a good day and I know that I don't look like a zombie.


    Another comment that rubs me the wrong way is "It will be over before you know it." Really? It feels like it is taking a frickin' eternity! My DH is guilty of this one, and I know he is trying to keep a cheerful attitude to see me through it, but I find it annoying to be sitting there scratching and queasy and have him say "Just one more, it will be done before you know it." Hits me so different than the cheerleading on this thread for those who are closing in on the finish line -- I guess because you all KNOW what it feels like, so it is you I want in my pockets, not my DH screwing on a smile and muttering platitudes.


    Some people get creative with their support, though, and I appreciate that -- A coworker gave me a copy of The Little Engine That Could and a little china Christmas train today. In the card he said that he is in awe of the courage it has taken for me to keep teaching throughout my chemo. I was touched.


    This is the place where we can rant -- and all will understand. That's why I love you ladies!


    And Wrenn -- hugs back atcha, kiddo. Hope that hair just grows right back in a hurry for you. Have you talked to you MO yet?

  • Headeast
    Headeast Member Posts: 619
    edited December 2013


    About the look: I wear now a lot of make up, especially to even out my face color and eyes. The eyelashes are scarce in some areas of the eyes and make me look sick. At least with more makeup I 'cover' those areas.


    Day 8 after TC4: sleeping better. Still short of breath. Less sweats at night and during the day too. Fatigued, thank God I don't have to go to work for now. After seeing doctors checkups I should be ok to go back to work, once I get stronger. I basically do nothing all day now, not even cleaning and I am a neat freak! No walks either, but hopefully soon I will get stronger soon to start with that again.


    How are you ladies today?

  • naiviv
    naiviv Member Posts: 535
    edited December 2013


    Hello everyone, home from TCH # 3, halfway through on TC......let's see what goodies it brings this time. Right now I feel great. Going grocery shopping as soon as kids get home (early release day), then cooking and a bit of laundry.....Dryer is on the fritz...repair person comes Monday...so doing small loads to hang up arounnd the house/garage.


    To all who had chemo, may your SE's be minimal if at all....


    Take care,


    Vivian

  • Viji
    Viji Member Posts: 195
    edited December 2013


    Day 17 after TC#4 plus H#3/17, still feel weak and fatigued. Concerned that my heartbeat accelerates after climbing stairs, races if I run up the stairs. Something to discuss with MO on Tuesday when I get H#4. Doing more and more housework and cooking. One day at a time....

  • 70charger
    70charger Member Posts: 963
    edited December 2013


    Viji, If you can run upstairs your doing good in my book!

  • lonnie713
    lonnie713 Member Posts: 236
    edited December 2013


    Had my final AC infusion today. I pray that Taxol is as easy as they say. I just keep thinking.....weekly and SE's. The good news is that I don't start until the 27th, after Xmas. I should have very minimal SE's from the AC infusion at that point. My thanksgiving was horrible.

  • TeamKim
    TeamKim Member Posts: 568
    edited December 2013


    So I am in the big girl chair! getting part one of my last tx -- but just so BC could F with my holidays, now they have decided I am getting Abraxane, and they don't know when because they want to wait to see if I have any allergic reaction to the Cytoxan first. arrrrrrgh! I have gotten to a point where I cannot stand waiting for decisions or sudden changes when I think the plan is set. BC has robbed me of my ability to be flexible and go with the flow!

  • Pam358
    Pam358 Member Posts: 294
    edited December 2013


    Vivian - congrats on being halfway through your TC


    Lonnie - congrats on your last AC


    TeamKim - I'm sorry they are messing with your holidays. I agree that this whole BC ordeal has made it more difficult to be flexible and go with the flow.

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