October 2013 Chemotherapy

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  • relocatedtarheel
    relocatedtarheel Member Posts: 159
    edited December 2013


    The PS will put in tissue expanders if youbare having radiation, it is the implants themselves they won't put in prior to radiqtion. The TEs are thicker/stronger and aren't usually damaged during radiation. In fact since radiation can damage/shrink the skin the TE helps maintain the space for implants or flap reconstruction. I had an infection i n one of my expanders and had to have it removed so my reconstruction will be slightly compromised on that side.

  • Pam358
    Pam358 Member Posts: 294
    edited December 2013


    I was waiting for the Taxol SE after my first treatment on Wednesday and they have started to show up - just a little more tired and I'm achy. Also, I haven't had much of an appetite. However, so far they are much better than the SE I had from A & C. I'm wondering what the next few days will bring.

  • smrlvr
    smrlvr Member Posts: 422
    edited December 2013


    Macy, my BS discouraged me from placing the TEs during mastectomy due to radiation. So when treatment is all over I will start again with another surgery to place TE. I don't know when I will do this. Again, I need to be patient, which is hard.

  • jrmama42
    jrmama42 Member Posts: 5
    edited December 2013


    I'm new to the discussion board, though I have used it as a resource during my journey. I'm about halfway through my neoadjuvant TCH and Perjeta treatments and was interested to read naiviv's note about her hair because I just noticed that mine is starting to grow a little. I never did lose all my hair; guess I didn't need to get the buzz cut after all, though I'm enjoying the freedom of "no bad hair days"! Does it continue to fall out or would it have stabilized by now?


    Also, what's your experience with the runny nose that seems to go with this therapy? Does it continue after the TC is done and I'm just getting Herceptin? Some days are worse than others, but I have to always have a handkerchief or kleenex nearby for the sudden drips. The nosebleeds seem to occur only the first week, so I'm assuming they are more Taxotere-related.


    This cycle I started having sore and bruised-looking nails. I'm keeping them short, clean and well-moisturized and hoping for the best. I just received the Evonail I ordered - we'll see if it works! As long as they don't get worse I'll be happy.


    It's nice to have this forum to discuss the oddball issues that crop up with our treatments, and to be able to encourage each other along the way.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited December 2013

    jrmama - the runny nose will continue on Herceptin only infusions, it is a SE of Herceptin.  The bloody noses should subside - they are a function of irritated tissue and low platelets (blood clotting cells), so as your counts improve after finishing the TC portion you should see improvement, but some still have them on Herceptin only. 

  • naiviv
    naiviv Member Posts: 535
    edited December 2013


    Jrmama,


    I buzzed my hair to about 1/8-1/4 inch. (what was left after it started fulling in quantity) It was pinchy when I passed my hand over my hair. I definitely had growth, hair is softer now, can grab between my fingers and it is not coming out. I had 4 weeks between tx1 and tx2 . Tx3 is next week and I'll let you know if it stays, so far nails ok. I also have runny and a bit stuffy nose and the nose bleeds from one side only.


    Vivian

  • VintageGal1111
    VintageGal1111 Member Posts: 705
    edited December 2013


    Pam~


    Taxol SEs for me so far have been minimal. So much better than A&C! & no Neulasta shot SEs either!

  • TeamKim
    TeamKim Member Posts: 568
    edited December 2013


    Since a few of you just finished, and a few of us have just one or two txs to go, I started looking into rads and I have set up a Winter Rads thread. If you will be starting the zip/zap in the next couple of months, I invite you to join us: All TopicsForum: Radiation Therapy - Before, During and After → Topic: Winter 2013-2014 Rads


    We will continue to get through this TOGETHER!!

  • Furfriend2
    Furfriend2 Member Posts: 299
    edited December 2013


    Teamkim


    Thanks for the thread-will look forward when I can say Chemo is officially over =D

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited December 2013


    Good morning everyone. I have a feeling I have had an easier time than many with SE. It is day 12 for me and although i don't have an appetite i can finally eat. I have minimal queasiness and no pain (had 2 days of pain after neulasta...no claritin). No watery eye. My nose was a bit dry the last couple of days. My nose hair still looks like a 90 year old man.


    I had blood work done yesterday and expected counts to be low but WBC, RBC and neutrofils are high ( just a bit above normal) but that surprised me.


    I am seeing onc next week but am still pretty committed to gambling with recurrence and saving my gut by dropping out of chemo. I have diverticulosis and IBS and don't want to create a future of daily discomfort for my old worn out intestines for a possibility of recurrence.


    I hope everyone who isn't posting is doing ok and all the best to everyone.

  • jrmama42
    jrmama42 Member Posts: 5
    edited December 2013


    Thanks for the feedback, SpecialK and naiviv. So good to get reassurance from those who have "been there". :)


    I asked "Santa" (my sweet husband) for some handkerchiefs from Vermont Country Store. They're hard to find these days!!


    My 4th tx is Tuesday. I should be done with chemo by early February - hooray!!!


    One more thing I forgot to ask about: I've noticed since starting chemo that some earrings (even 14k gold) make gray marks on my lobes. And I have to lubricate the posts/wires for one ear especially because it seems to be sensitive. Anyone else notice these changes with chemo?


    TeamKim - thanks for setting up the Radiation board. I look forward to joining all you "graduates" in February or March!

  • TeamKim
    TeamKim Member Posts: 568
    edited December 2013


    Jmama -- I have dried blood in my nose (both sides, but left is worse) pretty much constantly now. I am told this is a SE of TC, and as SpecialK said, should subside once those drugs are out of our systems and counts recover. All these annoying little SEs -- I am so over it!

  • VintageGal1111
    VintageGal1111 Member Posts: 705
    edited December 2013


    Thanks though my treatment started in Sept I still have til the last of Feb for chemo. I haven't talked about further surgery & radiation with my MO yet but need to soon.

  • Pam358
    Pam358 Member Posts: 294
    edited December 2013


    Wrenn - glad you're feeling you've had an easier time with SEs and happy to hear your blood counts are good!


    I added to my SEs what feel like menstrual cramps - they've been hanging around since last night, not pleasant. However, I have managed to still work on my Christmas cards. I think they will be out earlier this year than ever before!

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited December 2013


    i hope my post wasn't taken as boasting. I just like newbies to know how varied it all is. I do feel blessed through much of this...mostly for coming across this great group of women.

  • jrmama42
    jrmama42 Member Posts: 5
    edited December 2013


    TeamKim -- I found that sleeping with a humidifier in the room as well as liberal use of Aquaphor (using q-tip to coat inside your nose) has helped with the nosebleeds. They were fewer this cycle than the last one. Yep, the SEs can be very tiresome, but as I keep reminding myself, "this too shall pass!"


    On that note, I have to share a card my friends sent me, using my mantra in a whole new way. Love it!!


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  • SchoolCounselor
    SchoolCounselor Member Posts: 452
    edited December 2013


    No worries Wrenn!!!

  • Jaybird26
    Jaybird26 Member Posts: 49
    edited December 2013

    Good Morning,

     I hope that everyone is well and hanging in best they can. I have not posted in some time but have kept you all in my thoughts. I don't know how all of you ladies feel but I have had a hard time living in the moment. Most days I feel like my "old self" and then I remember that I have cancer and I get knocked back. My support system is poor. I am a single mom of a young boy and most of my family and friends can't relate. Most of them don't realize how long this journey is and how hard it is emotionally. I notice that the phone calls, the How are you?, Do you need anything? are a lot less. I have approached this with the intent of keeping my life the same, in which I have in regards to work and my son. I know that I am strong but man do you need to be strong with this cancer. I am realizing that I am in this alone and it is very scary. OK enough with that. I get tired of myself. LOL

     I finished my 4 AC and will receive my 2nd Taxol this Thursday. I noticed a lot more joint pain with the taxol but no nausea.

    Hugs and Prayers to all of you!!!!!!!!

  • 2timer
    2timer Member Posts: 590
    edited December 2013


    I just finished my last AC Thursday and will be starting DD Taxol the week after next. I had some very mild nausea issues this time around but this was the first time I'd ever felt any nausea during treatment. Just ate something and it went away. Very worried about Taxol though. Even though everyone says it is much easier than AC I do worry about the SE's. Had a fairly easy time with the AC: just some fatigue, hairloss (but not eyebrows or all of my lashes) and darkening nail beds but nothing else. I've even tolerated the neulasta shots well, even though they hurt like heck when I get them. I need some ideas how what I can take to prevent SE's from taxol. If anyone here has any advice on what I can do to prevent neuropothy I'd really appreciate it. I think this is when things are going to start getting tougher for me. I'll probably lose the bit of hair on my head and my eyebrows. The eyebrows will hurt since I don't do much makeup and nothing says "cancer patient" more than no eyebrows. Maybe I'll start practicing with the pencil.


    Jaybird26: It's tough doing cancer treatments period. When you're alone and having to take care of kids it has to be a challenge (although I think children are a blessing and wish I still had little ones around). You say most of the time you feel okay then "and then I remember that I have cancer and I get knocked back". This is what I do when that happens. I tell myself:






    I DON'T HAVE CANCER (it was completely removed during surgery).


    I AM BEING TREATED FOR CANCER (a play on words, yes but chemo is supposed to be insurance)


    This is just a temporary thing and soon the chemo will be done and you'll get your hair, strength and life back. Whenever those depressing thoughts start, push them out of your mind as soon as possible!! You don't have cancer; you're going through chemotherapy, that's all. Bless you and your little one and I hope you can have a nice holiday. Christmas is always nicer when it's for children.

  • SchoolCounselor
    SchoolCounselor Member Posts: 452
    edited December 2013


    Jaybird I'm sorry you are having such a hard time. Cancer is hard. I agree with 2timer though. We had cancer it was removed and now we are being treated. It's a spin, but the minute I made that change in my head. I became grateful. Still sad , angry etc, but grateful. People don't know what to do or say, nor do they realize we are changed forever. If they offer help and you need it, take it. It was the hardest lesson for me, but I realize how good others feel to be of help.


    My sister lives in bklyn

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited December 2013

    2timer - run this by your onc, but I took 30g of L-Glutamine (powder, 3xdaily @ 10g dissolved in a drink), 100mg of B6, and 1500 mg of Acetyl L-Carnitine.  My onc was fine with it.  I had tingling in feet, fingers and tongue that resolved by the next treatment until #5, then the feet stayed.  It took about 8 weeks PFC for the neuropathy to resolve but it did.  I also iced my fingers and toes to try to keep form losing my nails, they did well.  Some people ice for neuropathy prevention, but I am not convinced this works as neuropathy is nerve damage caused by the drug being infused - it is a communication between the nerves and the brain, so I remain unconvinced that local application of ice to the extremities has much of an effect.

  • Headeast
    Headeast Member Posts: 619
    edited December 2013


    Jaybird, I agree with 2timer. Chemo is insurance, you passed the cancer and MOs do chemo to prevent that any cancer cell left somewhere grows. All will grow back, especially our energy and our self esteem.


    And if your family or friends don't call then you call them. They might not want to bother you and that is why they don't call. When I had my radical mastectomy I sent a text to a number of people asking to do shifts at my house, starting at 7am. I needed to take medication with food and I couldn't walk downstairs. They all answered, saying if they could or not and at what time. It worked perfect, even walking the dogs. If I wouldn't have asked, they wouldn't have known what I needed. I am a very independent person but I had to have my meds.


    Ask them to help you with your child to go to school. Whatever it is that alleviates the pressure from you.


    Hang in there. It will be over before you notice.

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited December 2013


    Can someone advise me on where to post a question to the general population here or to triple neg people? I would like to blame chemo brain for not being able to figure this out myself but I was just as dim before chemo started.


    I would like to find other triple negs who opted out of chemo. thanks xo

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited December 2013


    Thank you Schoolcounselor, You are a sweetheart. xo

  • Pam358
    Pam358 Member Posts: 294
    edited December 2013


    Jaybird - I think when we work so hard at keeping things "the same", I think others follow suit and think everything is just fine and we don't need any help. I don't think most people realize what it takes to be on the journey both physically and mentally and I know I'm not good and trying to educate others.


    I have had some of the same thoughts....everything is just going along and then the cancer diagnosis hits me as well. I haven't gotten to the point where I can say there is no cancer. I feel like they took most of it out during surgery but since my lymph nodes were involved I can't help wonder if a cancerous cell or two escaped. I do believe that those cells are being killed with chemotherapy and eventually radiation and that's what helps me get through active treatment. In my mind I will be cancer free once those treatments are finished so I guess I have a bit of a different point of view.

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited December 2013


    Jay Bird, All of those people who said, "let me know if you need anything"........ send hem an e-mail, let them know that chemo is taking a lot out of you, and ask if there is a day in the next 2 weeks, where they could bring you a meal, etc. A lot of times people feel helpless, and they really do want to do something, but just need a little direction, etc. i am awful, awful, awful at asking for help, but when one of my friends offered to set up a mealtrain for me, it was wonderful. When a couple other friends told me it was full, but they wanted to bring a meal, i asked if they could be "on standby" and i would call if something came up...whenI was hospitalized, they were more than happy to jump in. The holidays are busy and people get wrapped up in their lives, but most people really want to help too, so send the, a little reminder, so you can get some help and some rest! Before my diagnosis, when friends had cancer, etc, I always wanted to help, but never knew what to do...now I know...meals and clean their house! If your friends can't help, ask a local church; they usually have people more than happy to help. Good luck. This too shall pass.....just not nearly as quickly as we'd like.......I always wanted time to slow down because my kids were growing up too fast....well it sure came to a screeching halt now...this is not how I wanted time to slow!

  • Headeast
    Headeast Member Posts: 619
    edited December 2013


    kbee, are you dealing with hot flashes? When will you start with Tamox?

  • smrlvr
    smrlvr Member Posts: 422
    edited December 2013


    Jaybird, I agree with the other ladies. I also am extremely independent, but I found I needed to,ask for and accept help. People don't know what to do and they need to take your lead. They want to help but don't sometimes know what to say. One thing for sure, is unless a person has gone through this journey, they don't know how we feel both physically and emotionally. I have found so many psychological components to this disease that I never would have known. That is why this site is important to me personally. You will always be able to find understanding here from these ladies.


    Headeast, I think I am having hot flashes but I am not sure what they feel like. I just get hot like I have been working out but now sweaty. I have only missed one period and I don't even know when hot flashes would even start.

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited December 2013


    I am a person who is normally freezing, freezing cold! I have been getting hot flashes, at night only. I get about 3 or 4 per night. I do not get all sweaty, so maybe I will call them "warm flashes". I take off my sleep cap, take off my sweatshirt, and maybe a blanket, and about a minute later it passes and I am freezing again. I start tamoxifen tomorrow. I plan to take it in the morning. i am strongly ER positive, so I am hoping for minimal side effects since it is so important to my future.

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