Ppl just don't get it! Ever want to shake them and say HELLO!

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I AM SO (s'cuse my language) PISSED OFF RIGHT NOW.


Everyone thinks I shouldn't be a downer, frustrated or angry. One guy friend just told me " Yeah, telling you what I do when I struggle isn't going to help you at all." in THAT tone seemingly from the typed conversation.


Hello?!? I'm A SINGLE PARENT. I said" Who's going to open the cupboards when I can't reach up? Who's going to cook when I can't lift a pan? Who's going to shave my legs? Who's going to bathe me?


I said " I can sit there singing kumbaya while my chest oozes bloody fluid unable to lift my arms all day long, but I'm still going to need a clean vagina."


They act like because they had a bad day or something I shouldn't feel angry and frustrated. I said " Look at least you can clean your own penis."


Who's going to shovel my driveway? Do our laundry? How are we going to get the food I'm unable to cook in the first freakin place?


He got all pissy and hasn't talked to me since. UGH.


Whatever. When they have metal rods holding their scrotum together then I'll feel like they understand.

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  • TessaW
    TessaW Member Posts: 231
    edited December 2013


    I didn't sleep a wink last night. Couldn't shut my mind off. Now I've got a ten hour day ahead of me.


    Ugh. Great.

  • farmerlucy
    farmerlucy Member Posts: 3,985
    edited December 2013

    Tessa - Sorry things are so rough right now. You are so right, unless you have been there you can't understand. Many say the exact wrong thing thinking they are helping. I wish I could come to your house and help you. Hang in there. :(

  • Linda1966
    Linda1966 Member Posts: 633
    edited December 2013


    Tessa, sounds like your doing it really tough at the moment. Lots of people don't understand what we go through. I do think its good that you are looking forward and seeing issues and trying to plan for them now while you can. I'm assuming the surgery your referring to is the mastectomy in January? I only had one boob off and didn't have reconstruction so if you are having reconstruction hopefully someone else will pop along and clarify or amend my suggestions to suit you better. But in the interest of letting you know that we do care and that we want to help I'll give you some hints as to what helped me get through the post surgery time pretty well and with no major issues.


    First off, a few hours after the op I went to the toilet on my own and needed no assistance from a nurse so I think you can forget that worry. Your pants are below your waist and the initial problem with the arms is getting them above chest height. It may tae you a minute or two, but you can do it and it wont hurt too much. Also they will give you exercises to do to get movement back in your hand and arms, do them diligently and often and you will recover full use of your arms faster. I lived alone and had no problems physically at any time due to the surgery. Don't get me wrong, everything took longer and it was hard to have coordination, but it was doable. With regards to the drains, the nurses gave me a little knitted bag that the drains fit in - u pop the bag on your shoulder and the drains inside and its not obvious to the average person - plus it stops the drains from being caught on anything and pulling at you. The drains can stay in the bag beside you when you sleep and I even went to the shops with them and no one noticed a thing. Wear button up the front clothes for ease, (nothing on top or bottom that is tight so you dont have to use force to put them on or off) and do that at both the hospital and at home for a bit (definitely not anything that you have to slip over your head). In fact at home alone that first few weeks, I often just went topless or had a cloth over my remaining breast and just let the air circulate around the surgical site - it didn't hurt anybody and it was by far the most comfortable and easiest thing to do You will know yourself as you are improving as to what you can and cant do. You will probably need assistance to shower that first 2 days or so though. I had my mum come over and gladwrap my chest to keep the site dry and then sent her out of the bathroom, hung the drains over the shower head and had what is still the best shower of my life lol. If I could have worked out how to gladwrap myself I wouldn't have needed mum, but I was worried about splashing and decided that was the best thing to do.


    Its true you cant really raise your arms much the first few days, but toilet, getting drinks and pre prepared foods is manageable. Get some microwave meals into the freezer now while you can still get out and about, try to get most of the food and drink you will want at a level around chest height in the fridge and cupboards (certainly no higher) and make sure none of it is heavy. If your microwave is high in a cupboard, it wont hurt to have it on a counter for a week to help you make your life easier Im sure. Theres probably a thousand other tips and hints we can give you to ensure life is as easy as possible post surgery and from memory there is a thread here in BCO that does list a lot of these sorts of things.


    I'm unsure as to how old your child/children are but if very young then you may need to see if a friend or family member can move in for a few days as I don't think you should be lifting a baby and anything to do with stretching is going to hurt for a bit. If you don't have access to anyone, then contact social services or see if your hospital can direct you to the department that can help you. You will not be the only person who has ever required assistance post surgery and they should have a lot of experience in guiding patients to gain assistance. If you can get that sorted out you can stop worrying about how you can wash,dress and feed your child/children if they are too young to do it themselves.


    I think the main thing is to plan ahead now while you have time and try not to dwell on what you cant do for those few days and instead on what you can do to get through that time with as little pain and hassle as you can. This might also help to distract you from worrying about the surgery. In the meantime, all I can advise is that for me, concentrating on things like planning ahead and getting organised did distract me from stressing about what I was about to undergo and I got through the whole period pretty well emotionally and physically. Good luck and I hope you get some sleep tonight.

  • BayouBabe
    BayouBabe Member Posts: 2,221
    edited December 2013


    Hello fellow Michigander. I am guessing you are being treated at one of the cancer centers in GR. If so, and if you haven't already done so, get connected with your nurse navigator. She can point you in the direction of resources that may help during this time. My tips - get a cheap outdoor chair to use in your shower for the first couple of weeks; get a lanyard to attach your drains to while showering. Ask for the nerve block before your surgery ( they will send you home with it after surgery, and it will continue to help with pain for an additional 2 or 3 days). Hang in there neighbor, you are at the hardest part right now. Sending hugs and peace to you in the days ahead.

  • TessaW
    TessaW Member Posts: 231
    edited December 2013


    Thanks Farmer, I wish you could come over too. It would be nice to visit with someone who 'gets it'.


    Linda, wow. Thank you so much for all of your information. My son is 9, so going topless probably won't work for us, lol. He's pretty dependant for a 9 yr old. I'm trying to get him to do more for himself right now, but it's a struggle.


    I am having reconstruction. For me, I just couldn't imagine going from a perky D to no recon. I'm so glad to hear I might be able to use the toilet on my own! (lol) I'm sure my first shower will be the best one of my life too! I'm looking forward to it already and my bmx isn't until January.


    Bayou, yep, I go to the Lemmen Holton center downtown GR. Where do you go?


    Nerve block? You mean like an epidural? How do they send you home with one? I've talked to people down at LH but they haven't helped me out much. I'll call again tomorrow when I'm not working.


    Thanks girls.

  • Blessings2011
    Blessings2011 Member Posts: 4,276
    edited December 2013


    Oh, Tessa, two years ago I was going through the same thing - BMX and recon. I did have a DH at home, but I still worried about being totally disabled for a long time after my surgery.


    Most folks who knew about my dx either clung to me and sobbed and told me horror stories or blithely quipped about getting "perky new ones". GRRRRRR.....


    For what it's worth, I read your guy friend's comment in a slightly different way: it sounded like he was admitting that he was totally out of his element in trying to offer solutions... and that's pretty sensitive for a guy. Of course I don't know the circumstances, so I may be way off-base....


    You've gotten some great advice already from the ladies...


    Don't worry. You will have a clean hoo-hah. You will be able to go to the bathroom by yourself, wipe yourself, and do all those personal things you need to do. (BTW, if you are taking any kind of narcotic pain meds, be SURE to take the stool softeners, regardless of whether or not you think need them. You do NOT want to get to the point where you need Milk of Magnesia. Trust me on this.)


    You may not have the strength in your arms, but they do function pretty well downward. Since I wasn't allowed to shower while my drains were in (two weeks!!!!) Baby Wipes saved me. I used them all over.


    My hair was short, and however it looked when I got out of bed is pretty much how it looked all day long. The last thing I cared about was shaving my legs. I wore satin jammies, in a larger size than usual, so 1) the elastic waist pants could be pulled down easily, and 2) it was easy to slide in and out of bed.


    DH did help with the drains sometimes, but I was perfectly capable of doing them myself. It was more of a "let him help and feel useful" kind of thing.


    He wanted to help me with that first shower, but I needed the time alone. I did have a shower seat. One thing that helped was a big terry cloth bathrobe, so that when I got out, I didn't have to reach behind me and dry the Southern regions with a towel.


    I think the thing that struck us both the most was the fact that I became so independent so fast. I had imagined the worst, being bedridden and helpless... but I was up and about and doing things for myself pretty quickly.


    Have a list of things to do that you will allow people to help you with, and give it to anyone who says "Let me know if you need anything."


    I really didn't care about how my house looked, but there is an organization that will clean the houses of breast cancer patients. Here is their link: http://www.cleaningforareason.org/


    Sending you big hugs, Tessa. We are here for you.

  • BayouBabe
    BayouBabe Member Posts: 2,221
    edited December 2013


    Tessa - yep, I am a Lemmon Holton girl too! The nerve block was kind of like an epideral. These wires were inserted in my back prior to going to the operating room. Attached to them were two small purse like bags that were at my sides and continually delivered medication into my skin. The bags had handles to carry around with me after surgery, which kind of made me fee like an octopus with drains and nerve block bags! They came home with me, continually administering medication, and deflating the bags as the meds were used up. There was enough meds for about 3 days after surgery. My husband then gently pulled the wires, and the empty bags were thrown away. This kept my pain in check and was a HUGE help in this regard.

  • bren3
    bren3 Member Posts: 38
    edited December 2013


    Hi,


    Everyone is different in how they handle things. I am a single mom with 3 kids and a dog. Going into each surgery everyone kept asking me who was staying with me or keeping the kids for me. I just laughed because I was doing it all myself, I wasn't going to get rid of the kids so I could be home alone. I was able to do everything that needed to be done. Some things you just don't do. It's that simple. I was allowed to shower with drains and it was awkward but doable. Just do what you can and you will get through it just fine.


    Brenda

  • TessaW
    TessaW Member Posts: 231
    edited December 2013


    Bren you have 3 and went through this on your own?? Criminy! How old are they?


    Blessings, you're awesome! I've already bought new pj's with the feet in them, but i'll sure get one of those terry robes. ( Just not white! LOL) I will DEFINITELY be looking into that cleaning org. Hokey peats, who knew it took an MX to get some help around here? J/K.


    Yeah, everyone says "Let me know if you need anything." I hate asking for help, hate it, but I'll have to take a little I think. IDK how you did it Bren.


    Linda, when you say the drains stayed by you while you slept, did you mean in an actual bed?

  • Linda1966
    Linda1966 Member Posts: 633
    edited December 2013


    Yeah I slept in my bed as usual, and the drains were in the bag to my side. I used pillows either side so I didnt roll over. Had no trouble sleeping at any time, though I did have to train myself out of sleeping on my tummy, with one flat and one normal, the poor normal one was getting squished haha.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2013


    One of my big fears was "who's going to wipe me after I go to the bathroom?" Lol.


    Well, my period started the day before my BMX. So my heavy day was during surgery. Ugh!!!!! I had a rough first night at the hospital and that made me even more worried. BUT the morning after? I SLOWLY got out of bed, went to the bathroom, washed up a little AND brushed my own teeth!! Heaven!!!!!


    You will make progress. You WILL be clean enough while you wait for that shower. :-)


    Some PS's don't let you shower with drains. Some do. Mine did!!! I showered my third day home. By myself. VERY SLOWLY!! I even combed my hair after. I totally dressed myself every one of those days. Again....very slowly, kind of awkward, and with some pain.


    My daughter (14) was a great fetcher and she helped me with the recliner. It was the most comfy place to sit, but it was difficult to get reclined by myself at first. Getting out was hard til I figured out how to scoot my behind forward and then push the foot rest down with my legs. (Good ab workout. )


    My BMX was on a Tuesday and I was alone all day Friday. Got my lunch and everything. Leftovers in the microwave.


    Try this: walk around your home right now doing your normal routine, but mentally pin your elbows to your sides. Move what you need so you can make that work. I was able to do more than that, but that's a great way to plan ahead. My most painful motion was pushing down. Opening medicine containers, wiping counter tops, getting out of bed.


    Explain a bit to your son ahead of time. You may be quite surprised at what your little man is able to accomplish, AND how proud he can be to be man of the house! My daughter surprised me because she LIKED taking care of me! She decided she'd like to be a nurse. (I did inform her that nurses have to do the gross stuff too, which she never did. Lol.)


    So....it's hard. But it's manageable. You WILL NEED TO ACCEPT OFFERS OF HELP!!! And if someone offers to bring a meal TAKE IT!!!!! But, you CAN do it.


    But you cannot shovel snow. Not for quite a while. So see if you can get that one covered. Or maybe we'll have a mild winter this year??

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited December 2013

    I never slept in a recliner, just put a boatload of pillows behind me in my regular bed.  I found that crawling around on my knees until I was in the right spot, then turning around and sitting, swinging my legs around and leaning back worked fine.  Having things at counter level is key - and use paper plates/plastic utensils in the short term so there are no dishes.  Either cook ahead of time and freeze in single serve portions, or stock up on frozen and microwaveable meals.  Have a basket with all your stuff - glasses, phone, remotes, tissues, pen and paper, meds, etc.  That way you are not getting up and down so much.  Ask your pharmacy to put easy-open caps on your meds - it is hard to push down and turn to get the tops open.  I showered with drains strung on a clean shoelace and worn like a necklace - I was allowed to shower as soon as I came home from the hospital, which was a Wed.  The only thing I couldn't do was wash my hair, but I could take a shower by myself, and do all the bathroom stuff with no help - even while still in the hospital.  My husband was home the remainder of the week but went back to work on the following Mon. and I was on my own.  I cooked and did laundry, did stuff around the house - the only thing I couldn't do was drive.  We went grocery shopping, which was fine - again - couldn't drive or lift too much heavy stuff.  I even did Thanksgiving dinner three weeks after surgery - I just didn't lift the turkey.  I did not take narcotic pain meds for more than the first week - I was not pain free but did fine with Tylenol at that point.  It was less pain, more like soreness, but I don't like the way I feel on narcotics - I seem to twitch, lol!  I recommend wearing stuff that you can step into - I mostly wore tank tops/camisoles without the shelf bra,  that I could step into and pull up, and button front shirts or zip up lightweight tops with stretchy pants.  I went to Marshalls/TJ Maxx and got inexpensive yoga pants and the track suit zip tops - they worked great.  Comfortable for around the house, but you can go out in them and look decent.  I know a lot of people make appointments with their hairdresser to get their hair washed but I found that the hand-held shower head was great for washing hair - didn't have to reach up.  My shower has a rain head, but if I needed to wash my hair I used the bathroom with the hand-held - which is also good if you are not allowed to shower until the drains come out because you can direct the water - get clean without having to get wet above the waist.  It is well worth replacing an existing shower head - they are inexpensive and easy to put on.  Hope this stream-of-consciousness list is helpful!  Good luck - you will do fine!  Accept all the help that is offered!

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