October 2013 Chemotherapy

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  • TeamKim
    TeamKim Member Posts: 568
    edited December 2013


    Headeast -- I am a little giddy from sharing your happy dance!! whoooo Hoooo sista!!!!! I am glad to know that the weight gain is mostly fluid. I have put on about 6 lbs, so hoping that drops off quickly.


    MsJean -- one down -- it will be all over soon. Sounds like you were flying on that cocktail. Hope your SEs are minimal and you sail right through the rest of this.


    Naiviv -- Yay for fuzz! Here's hoping it fills in quickly and evenly ASAP.


    Just when you think you have it figured out, this BC s**# throws you another curve.... I saw the MO today for blood checks and follow-up from 3rd tx. I took my little album of photos of my hives over thanksgiving weekend. He says I am officially allergic to Taxotere, and I will not be getting it again because he feels it would be too dangerous. So, new plan: my blood counts are high, so we will go ahead with Cytoxan next week on my scheduled infusion day. No Neulasta shot after. Then the following Wednesday I am to come back for an infusion of another drug to replace the Taxotere (possibly Taxol or another one that I can't remember -- he is thinking about it and deciding what would be best). If blood counts are low when I come back for that infusion, then I will get a few days of Neupogen. If BC is good, then I will be DONE after that infusion!!! And on to rads in about a month. Glad to see the last of that Taxotere -- I have a touch of neuropathy in my toes, and the hives were nasty.

  • Headeast
    Headeast Member Posts: 619
    edited December 2013


    schoolcounselor, my weight gain is also because my focus during chemos is to elevate the blood count and was not too concerned about counting calories. My food has been filled with cLories: 3 bananas a day, two protein shakes with Glutamine, lots of potatoes and sweet potatoes for their nutirents, etc, oinc-oinc

  • Pam358
    Pam358 Member Posts: 294
    edited December 2013


    We made it through the snow storm safe and sound. It usually takes 30 minutes to get to the clinic but it was almost an hour and an hour home. The roads had been plowed at some point but some time had passed and there were several inches on the road. We just took our time and went slow. I asked if other chemo patients made it in today and they said yes! We are a hardy bunch!


    I made it through my first Taxol without an allergic reaction so I was very grateful. So far things are going OK at home. Just waiting for the SE ...wondering how this chemo will be for me.


    Ms Jean - congrats on making it through your first one as well. It was probably dexamethasone as your pre-med as I had that one too. I didn't get the Zofran but got the benadryl and pepsid.


    SchoolCounselor - sorry you had to deal with a dead battery!


    Lg - hope the MO can find some answers to help you feel better.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited December 2013

    lg - it is common for the new, but chemo-ed, hair to come in white at first, then establish some color.  I have colored my hair for an eternity because I have so much gray.  I was a blond child, but my hair darkened during college.  I have been blond again for a long time because it helps blend the gray.  This is the long way of saying I have never seen how gray I actually am until my hair grew out from chemo! It came back just as straight as it was, and my hairdresser cut it all off a couple of times right at the beginning because that hair was not at all healthy.  Plus, it helped because she shaped it so I did not look like a Chia Pet.  Here is a pic of it - it was taken about 3-4 months PFC, but I was still getting Herceptin so the growth was a bit slow.  You can see that I did not lose all my brows, but have extra eyeliner to compensate for sparse lashes.I also have TEs in this pic.  The next one was taken within the last week, not great quality but you can see my hair - I have had at least six inches cut off throughout the growing out process.

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  • Pam358
    Pam358 Member Posts: 294
    edited December 2013


    Special K - thanks for the pictures - they are helpful!

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited December 2013

    pam - I am glad - it is good for you all in the middle of treatment to see that things can be pretty normal again!

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited December 2013


    special, your hair looks great boh ways. Lucky you. I look like a scary man.

  • Furfriend2
    Furfriend2 Member Posts: 299
    edited December 2013


    Vintage,


    I have to laugh- I am on the east coast doing the west coast reg? ! I am dose dense with the Taxol as well. I am doing 4 treatments of Taxol every other week. dose dense. Biggest &*%# bag ever- wanted to throw up when I saw the chemicals, gagShocked.


    I love the stockings for the furbabies. I have a cat stocking for my cats as well. Mom always had stockings for our pets growing up. Great idea.


    I have bone pain- two days after Taxol tx. Taking Tylenol and Claritin. Nausea is not as bad; still taking Zofran but am able to put it off a little longer.


    Head- high five!!!


    Team- absolutely love the nails. They are candycane sweetSmile


    I have been taking a B Vitamin on and off which my MO said was ok. Did not discuss the L-Glut powder. May be a good idea. Not sure about this bone pain. Hope it is tolerable.; NOT enjoying this achy achy stuff...Sorry I am rambling....


    Nice to hear from you gals


    Furfriend

  • Furfriend2
    Furfriend2 Member Posts: 299
    edited December 2013


    SpecialK,


    Photos are great. I wonder what is going to happen with my hair growth as well. Thank you kindly for sharing!

  • Furfriend2
    Furfriend2 Member Posts: 299
    edited December 2013


    BTW- I meant to ask about the nail & neuropathy with Taxol/Taxanes.


    Should I be painting my nails because they are going to turn yellow,dark? Why does this happen and is this a common se? Two days after tx and I am already achy, achy- yea pretty much everywhere. Wondering if I am going to get out of bed in the am?


    Be well gals <3

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited December 2013

    fur - painting the nails with dark polish for the day of chemo is to keep the light from penetrating the nail bed and to prevent lifting.  After chemo I removed the dark polish and painted with clear nail hardener until the next chemo.

    wren - I also looked like a scary, and quite unattractive, man for a while too.  That goes away, don't worry!  Some of the ladies can rock the bald - not me.  Like, at all.  Plus, I had one expander in and one out, so that was weird too.  It seemed that I had to put on a lot of fake body parts to leave the house, lol!

  • lgkgde13
    lgkgde13 Member Posts: 164
    edited December 2013


    specialk- thanks for sharing! You look great!!! So jealous of your long hair. I haven't completely lost my eyebrows and eyelashes but they are def sparse. Wondering what color my hair will come in. I has a few grays up top but not too many :) thanks again for sharing :)

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited December 2013

    No problem - I hesitated because I didn't want to seem weird, but then I thought sometimes we need to see that we can, and will, look ok again!  I know that nobody wants to cut the new hair that grows out, but it really is better because it is affected by chemo drugs.  My hairdresser also had me use Bosley products and I started taking Biotin about 3 weeks after the last chemo.

  • TeamKim
    TeamKim Member Posts: 568
    edited December 2013


    Thanks for the photos, SpecialK. It helps to see you looking so young and healthy. Gives me hope that the aging effects of this chemo will reverse themselves given time and patience.

  • SchoolCounselor
    SchoolCounselor Member Posts: 452
    edited December 2013


    Having just got off the scale, and looking in the mirror at my bald head and bloated face. IT is great to see both of those pictures of you!!!!!

  • lgkgde13
    lgkgde13 Member Posts: 164
    edited December 2013


    that's right I need to get biotin now so I can start in a week. Is there specific brand that you would recommend?

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited December 2013

    There is a brand that does not contain any soy - and that is something to consider as those of you end chemo and start with any supplementation - for the ER+ ladies , soy is an ingredient in a lot of stuff!

    http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/p/biotin-5-mg-120-capsules/vs-1869#.UqCljTiA2po

    teamkim - I laughed when you said I looked young, so THANK YOU! - I am rapidly closing on 60, which I find shocking!  I just turned 57, but most people don't guess my age - some days I feel like I am 80 because of the aromatase inhibitors, but I am happy to be alive and kicking!

  • VintageGal1111
    VintageGal1111 Member Posts: 705
    edited December 2013


    It's so great to come home & read all your posts. Love seeing & hearing about HAIR! Love reading of those finishing up their treatments. And it is so "connecting" to read the issues you each are going through, how our SEs vary but how we all traveling this same long road.


    SEs: I noticed some ankle edema first time today, the nurses & MO ask every week at chemo so I was keeping an eye on my ankles. My skin is horrid & my hands, eeek! Dry, old, wrinkled, no hand cream seems to help. So many SEs from A&C & Neulasta have subsided, & a few new ones from Taxol/Herceptin have arrived. The runny nose, sometimes with blood, continues (since Sept). The constipation has subsided, yay! Luckily for me nausea hasn't been a big deal but I do have the rx to take when I first feel queasy. The bone pain I get now from Taxol is mostly in my knees. Fatigue is my biggest SE, & being anemic isn't helping! I am sure you all have a long list of irritating SEs like me but hope we all get past the ones that really get us down!

  • uds17
    uds17 Member Posts: 183
    edited December 2013


    I haven't been on the boards for a few days and I feel like I've missed out on an eternity of experiences.... you guys are busy!


    Wrenn- I'm sorry you've had such a hard time! You have to make a decision that works for you, but always know that you'll have our support.


    Headeast- so pleased for you that you're done! BTW, I've also got a miniature Schnauzer- aren't they precious?!


    Specialk- you're totally rocking the short hair!!!


    I hope all of you are handling things well.


    I'm theoretically in the middle of a good week, so have been working and trying to stick to as much of my routine as possible. It's good for me mentally, but I think I'm more tired than I was after the first round. Do most of you find the fatigue worsens with each susequent round?


    All the best ladies!


    (((hugs)))

  • lgkgde13
    lgkgde13 Member Posts: 164
    edited December 2013


    back from MO...wbc is down at 1.1 and hgb is low too. No idea what neutrophil count is bc they had to do it manually bc it was low.


    Feeling fatigued sigh...

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited December 2013

    vintage - try putting a copious amount of Aquaphor on hands and feet and sleeping in cotton gloves and socks, that helped me a lot.  By the end of chemo I was putting Aquaphor in and on a lot of different places!

    uds - thanks!  It was actually more labor intensive because I had to put so much stuff in it to get it to do what I wanted - the picture with it long it what it looks like now, which is only a little shorter than when I was diagnosed.

    lg - sorry about the counts

  • Headeast
    Headeast Member Posts: 619
    edited December 2013


    uds, yes I love my min Schanuzer, I also have a min pin. They are too cute together!

  • Pam358
    Pam358 Member Posts: 294
    edited December 2013


    lg - sorry to hear your #'s are low and you're feeling fatigued - augh!!

  • Viji
    Viji Member Posts: 195
    edited December 2013


    SpecialK thanks for sharing- as always so informative. You look great!!! Could you clarify do you have to shave off all hair post chemo or just keep trimming it?

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited December 2013

    viji - I never shaved my head all the way down to the skin.  My husband used the clippers and took it down to about 1/2 inch after my second chemo, and then only some of it fell out after that.  By the time hair started to grow uniformly it looked all crazy - different lengths.  My hairdresser trimmed it to about 1/4 inch all over my head at that point so that it was uniform, and that actually made it look thicker.  After that she cut it and started shaping it so the sides were shorter, which is what you see in that photo where it is all gray.  That was taken 4 months after I had finished chemo, but was still on Herceptin, she had cut about an inch off at that point.  What you may see is oddly colored hair that grows first - some people have said it looked like fishing line - almost clear.  Basically anything on your head now should be cut off, but if you are shiny bald, you are probably set to go once it starts growing, with maybe a little trim if the hair doesn't look completely healthy.  I can tell you it is hard to cut it at all, because you will be so happy to see it!

  • Macy187833
    Macy187833 Member Posts: 182
    edited December 2013


    Hi ladies, just checking in! I always keep up with this thread even though I don't often post. You ladies are my sisters--fighting right along side by side--even if we have never seen each other!


    A big whoot-whoot to those of you who have finished, or are about to finish chemo. I'm so jealous! Next week's infusion will be the halfway point for me so I still have a while to go.


    I've had the stuffiness and the nosebleeds on the Herceptin like somebody else (vintage gal?) mentioned. I have been through boxes and boxes of tissues, let me tell you! My skin is really dry too. Lotion doesn't seem to help all that much.


    I have a question for all you ladies who have tissue expanders now. Are you still having radiation after your chemo? I had a single mastectomy and TEs were never even presented as an option. I have to wait until I'm done with radiation. Of course, my re-diagnosis was all so stressful it was impossible to know what to ask.


    By that point, I will have been lopsided for at least 8 months. Shouldn't complain, I know, but I'm a bit jealous of anyone who has something that will fill up a little of the flat chested-ness, whether it is is one side or both. I definitely plan to have reconstruction--I'm only 43.


    Aargghh, I still get confused by all this and the process seems so long. On a good note, I returned to work this week after being out for 3+ months, it felt good to be back.


    Hope everyone is well.

  • lgkgde13
    lgkgde13 Member Posts: 164
    edited December 2013


    Macy- I have TE after left breast mastectomy. I do not need radiation after chemo. Maybe that is the difference??


    I understand it is so difficult to know the questions to ask and the whys when you are going through it. I really didn't know much about the process either not because the docs weren't informative just bc I was in shock and not absorbing .

  • Macy187833
    Macy187833 Member Posts: 182
    edited December 2013


    lgkde13, I think you're right. I am definitely having radiation after chemo. I'm sure this is a topic for a different thread but I was just wondering. It seems like so many here have TEs already. I'm such an impatient person that I want to be on to the next step already.


    I also don't remember much from those early visits either. My BS was awesome and I know she explained everything, I just don't remember everything. My husband remembers a lot more than I did.

  • Viji
    Viji Member Posts: 195
    edited December 2013


    SpecialK, thank you for the very clear explanation. Your guidance is always appreciated.

  • Headeast
    Headeast Member Posts: 619
    edited December 2013


    Macy, I have TE but not radiation. When OS and MO know you will be getting radiation they won't put TE. I am telling you, it is a pain every time they expand it, but like you said, it is comforting to see how you look normal and normal every time!


    As a gift from me to me, I am getting a little big bigger than what I was, I was an A anyway. I think I will go to B or C, not bigger because I don't want for them to get in the way of my exercise and active routine once I get back to normal.


    Hold on, you are in the race like all of us and you will be a winner! It is all about patience, something I am still learning...

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