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  • summergal
    summergal Member Posts: 208
    edited November 2013


    Rdrunner - inspiring! Well, all of you ladies are!!


    Went out to do 3 miles on Saturday and ended up feeling good enough to do 6 instead. Felt a little too "bouncy" at first, b/c rads and monthly cycle are swelling me up, but after a mile or two that went away, too, like you said LuvLuLu, all the initial feelings (cold, bouncy) disappear after a few hundred steps.


    Going to try to do a few miles today, but holy icicles, old man winter's made an early appearance - have to watch out for ice patches.

  • Gracers55
    Gracers55 Member Posts: 53
    edited November 2013


    Rdrunner,


    WOW! You are an inspiration. I was feeling pretty good about doing a 5k around the Rose Bowl (no weather excuses for me) without having to take a walk break. I started anastrozole two weeks ago and am feeling creaky in the morning. Working out chases the creaks away. Best to you all and have a wonderful Thanksgiving.


    Also--for those fellow chemo bald runners, check out Buffwear.com head scarves. The pictures are not informative, so click "ways to wear" "summer buff demo" and "complete coverage." These scarves are the best. I wear mine with a headband/sweatband on my forehead and over my ears. They stay in place far better than anything else I've tried.


    xxxooo

  • lovestorun
    lovestorun Member Posts: 167
    edited November 2013


    My goodness it is awful chilly out there and yall are amazing! Happy thanksgiving to all.

  • RunFree16
    RunFree16 Member Posts: 856
    edited November 2013


    Summergal, how is your breath-holding radiation going?

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited November 2013


    Update on physio / massage. The massage therapist noted a lot of the improvements from last treatment had held. She broke up more scar tissue again today. The physio worked on shoulder knot that has resulted from the abs (short abs results in pitching the head forward which forces the shoulders/neck to try to pull it back), but that would not relax so she stabbed it with acupuncture (short treatments, not the 15 minute version. She called it "dry needling" I think. Stabby. But she said she saw a lot of muscle reactions to it, so it should soften up.) I told her about our discussions here about it and she agreed that it's easy to blame and fix the superficial symptoms like hip flexors because those are common running complaints, but for post-op, we need to address the weakness left over from our surgery and scarring because it's at the root of everything else. I am having particular problem with my obliques, because I cannot feel them and so I can't activate them. I pull with my head and shoulders. I push with my low back. I cannot crunch the obliques. If I work hard at it in the clinic and she is poking them as I do it, I can sort of make some of the reps work. I am not sure I am activating the obliques but if I'm cheating with other muscles, I'm concealing it better. It's harder to take the exercises home and do them properly without external observation and feedback. She put kinesiotape on them to help me figure it out and we'll see if that helps. Good luck with their training and coping with the cold fronts everyone!

  • sandpiper1
    sandpiper1 Member Posts: 952
    edited September 2014


    Oh LuLu, my son is so excited for his first official race. We picked up our packets tonight and went out to dinner. When we got home he immediately tried on his new running shirt and announced that it fit. LOL.


    He has asked to look up more runs especially in January for when his friends come in from out of town (apparently he is finding something healthy to do with his friends and cousins!)


    My son said he wants to do the polar bear plunge at some point too. (on his bucket list)


    Great tips and progress reports from everyone!


    I ran the other day and was surprised by the "black ice: on the road. Not comforting that we are in the middle of a winter storm watch over the next 2 days.


    Will be an interesting run on Turkey day for sure.


    Happy holidays to all who celebrate.


    Happy trails


    stay safe and warm


    xoxoxoxoxo


    Piper

  • Rdrunner
    Rdrunner Member Posts: 309
    edited November 2013


    Graccers im not running those mile while doing chemo !! no way i could have done that. I finished chemo and rads the end of july and now just have to take the daily devil tamoxifen. Piper is so great your son is getting into running.

  • summergal
    summergal Member Posts: 208
    edited November 2013


    Hi, RunFree - thanks so much for asking. The breath-hold radiation is going SO much better since we adjusted to a new breath-hold level. Much more doable. I'm in and out in about 15 minutes (as opposed to hours before!!). Such a relief.


    Hope all are well. We had flurries here in PA this morning - will we get the Big Snow??

  • LuvLuLu
    LuvLuLu Member Posts: 377
    edited November 2013


    Felt positively BALMY out there this morning in 30 degrees with no wind. We're expecting this huge storm to bring in lots of rain. Good, I'm not quite ready for the snow and ice. (Piper, your son can HAVE that polar bear plunge. Definitely not on MY bucket list!)


    Anyway, fellow runners, I thought I'd throw this out there. My running partner and I were discussing this morning what constitutes a "distance" runner. We run about 30 miles/week. We do three 8-milers outside and 2 treadmill runs of about 3 fast miles each. We'll do the occasional half-marathon and I have done a few marathons (way back in the 90's). Does this make us "distance" runners? Probably not "long distance" runners but definitely not "sprinters" - those are the gorgeous, inhuman specimens you see on the track, right?


    Any thoughts?

  • summergal
    summergal Member Posts: 208
    edited November 2013


    LuLu - I'd call you a distance runner. My max is 6 miles at a time, and only very rarely, so I wouldn't call myself "distance." But your consistency and the miles you run definitely puts you right up there in my book! Go, girl!

  • sweetandspecial
    sweetandspecial Member Posts: 1,707
    edited November 2013

    LuLu - Hell yeah you're a distance runner!  I keep trying to get back to a 5K capability and then I get derailed by something.  To someone like me your ability to do 8 mile and half-marathon runs definitely puts you in the 'distance' runner category.  Keep it up girl!

  • Morningsun1
    Morningsun1 Member Posts: 649
    edited November 2013


    goldlining I think my physio may be working on the same muscle group as yours, but using a different technique. The strengthening part seems to be working, for when she tested today, I am very close to normal level. She uses laser and manually massage to knock loose the tightness in the ab. I do notice a significant difference there as well. I am going to ask about acupuncture in my next session.


    Good luck with your turkey day race piper. I am working with Mary Lee Beach at Oakmont Orthopaedic & Sports Therapy Center.


    Lots of activities reports here, which is so great to read. Summergal, where in PA are you? We have flurry weather right now in PGH. Big snow is in the mountains.



  • summergal
    summergal Member Posts: 208
    edited November 2013


    TammyT - Southeastern PA, where we rarely get any snow, much to our chagrin (we love the stuff!). Can't understand how Delaware and Maryland are in the line of snowy weather and somehow it skips over us.


    Got 2 miles in today.

  • RunFree16
    RunFree16 Member Posts: 856
    edited November 2013


    Summergal, so glad your radiation is going better! And you've undoubtedly taught your techs a few things that may help them with future patients. When is your last rads day?

  • Rdrunner
    Rdrunner Member Posts: 309
    edited November 2013


    Summergal i had to do that gated breathing thing also. sometimes the computer cliches or your breathing just before you start is different than other day for what ever reason. My techs explained to me how it worked but even still one day it felt like i hardly had to take in and hold anything to keep bar in place so i stopped and they said nothing wrong but i insisted they checked and they just had to reset everything. As soon as you stop holding breath the radiation stops automatically so dont worry about that.


    Lulu you are a distance runner, thats a decent weekly mileage imo.

  • FairyDogMother
    FairyDogMother Member Posts: 253
    edited November 2013


    So my MO today told me no more 5Ks and I should NOT be on the treadmill doing 3 miles the first week of Chemotherapy. I”m post 6 days from my first treatment. I have been walking/running. Did anyone do races while they were taking Chemo? I know the flu season is starting and such, but really I want to run/walk in own home.

  • Rdrunner
    Rdrunner Member Posts: 309
    edited November 2013


    I ran for the first two sessions, swam for the next two and walked for the rest. I did not do any races. Is the doc suggesting treadmill because its a little easier on joints ?

  • FairyDogMother
    FairyDogMother Member Posts: 253
    edited November 2013


    The oncologist wasn’t suggesting me doing anything no treadmill, no outside running, etc. She is afraid of me getting sick or an infection.

  • Buddhahead
    Buddhahead Member Posts: 66
    edited November 2013


    Congrats lovestorun! What a great accomplishment. Sounds like you're on your way back for sure.

  • Buddhahead
    Buddhahead Member Posts: 66
    edited November 2013


    Fairydog--I ran when I could on chemo. I was on TAC and a three week regimen, so by 10 days out I started running. Then when I started taking the steriods before the next treatment I felt like superwoman and always had the best runs ever. One of the silver linings of chemo, I suppose. I never asked my doc, I just did what I felt like. I do remember trying to run the first time after chemo and I felt like I was moving through molasses, but it got better.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited November 2013

    I am just scrolling around tonight. I don't run, but do plenty of other exercises & you absolutely SHOULD exercise as best you can during chemo. It will help you get through it easier (and may actually make it more effective), and will definitely help you bounce back faster once you are done. Of course don't overdo it, but do keep moving (and being outside will not make you sick).

  • sandpiper1
    sandpiper1 Member Posts: 952
    edited November 2013


    Happy Holidays my fellow runners.


    I am thankful for the opportunity to know all of you through this, the happiest thread on BCO, to live vicariously through so many runs all over the country and world, to have such on point advice from every level of runner........and most thankful for the ability to live and breath and take on new challenges.


    I cannot thank each and every one of you enough...... for all that I have mentioned............... and more.


    Thank you ............Thank you..........


    PS.


    My DS ran a little over 23 min for his first 5k. I am so proud of him. He is so unhappy with his results he asked when the next available race was so he could prove that he can run faster. You all have encouraged me to continue to take on this running gig and .............well......."run" with it. If I didn't have this support, I cannot say I would have succeeded in the early stages of my initial training.


    And now...my DS is driven, in part, because I never gave up


    XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO


    Piper

  • Rdrunner
    Rdrunner Member Posts: 309
    edited November 2013


    thats great piper and tell your son that is a decent time for a first 5km.. sounds like he is hooked now lol! Best way to increase 5k time.. have maybe two runs over that distance a week , increase one run by 1k a week , for 5k he doesnt need to go over say 10 or 12k. Then definitely once a week do intervals,and a progression run. There are many different kinds etc but lots of training info online. My bet is that he will be much closer to 20min the next one

  • LuvLuLu
    LuvLuLu Member Posts: 377
    edited November 2013


    Piper, you must be so proud of him! I know the feeling. My son & I did a half in May, then a 10K in September then a 5K in October. A big part of the results is experience!! My son's 5k, he wanted to break 20 minutes. He did 20 minutes 16 seconds which I thought was awesome! He felt he still had something left in the tank when he finished but he wasn't sure how much further he had to go so he started his final kick a little too late. But with experience he will get to know the feeling, when to kick etc.


    Don't you envy them their youth????


    We are so blessed. I hope everyone had an awesome Thanksgiving. xoxox

  • sandpiper1
    sandpiper1 Member Posts: 952
    edited November 2013


    Rdrunner and Lulu. TY.


    Your insight and hints are so helpful and I will be sure to pass this info along to DS.


    ahhh youth......


    :)

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited November 2013


    Happy Thanksgiving to all our American friends. I've been thankful once this year, but I'll be thankful again for all of you. Hugs!

  • Warrior50
    Warrior50 Member Posts: 94
    edited December 2013


    I admire you guys who can run in the cold weather. When it gets below 50 here in south Texas, I have a hard time running outside and I hate to run on The treadmill. It is torture to me! So I am having trouble getting past week 8. Going to try again tomorrow since it has warmed up a little. Want to run a 5k the week I finish Taxol.

  • LuvLuLu
    LuvLuLu Member Posts: 377
    edited December 2013


    Hi Warrior,


    The hardest part is getting out there. After the first 10 minutes or so the cold is no longer a factor unless there's wind, then it's a little more of a challenge. But really, I know there will be days of temps in the single digits coming and I will be crying until I meet my running partner and that first mile is behind us. Then we're not cold anymore and when you're done you really feel like a warrior!! It does help to have someone to train with who is waiting for you.


    Happy Sunday, everyone . . .

  • FairyDogMother
    FairyDogMother Member Posts: 253
    edited December 2013


    Okay you gals are inspiring. I am doing the 1 mile run a day in December challenge. I did it today and had a 14min/mil the fast time I had since post-surgery. My peripheral neuropathy in my feet felt like I was running on fiery coals. I sweated more then I ever did in a 5K race, but I did it. As I was sweating I was hoping I was releasing the toxins from the chemo. My calves turn into rocks. I’m exhausted now just from the mile. I remember that 5Ks and 10Ks were so easy and I realized you can’t compare this run to those. But I can strive to be there again after all the cancer stuff is done. I also felt very defiant during my run since my MO told me no more running. It brought a smile to my face :)


    It feels so good just to be out there again. I kept my run close to home incase something was to happen. The weather today is foggy so peaceful.


    Keep on running!

  • mcgis
    mcgis Member Posts: 291
    edited December 2013


    Do you all wear a sleeve and glove/gauntlet to help with lymphedema?

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