Monday club lol
Ok so tomorrow is the big day. At 4pm I find out. And this has all been so strange that I'm not feeling any thing right now. I'm not happy, I am not sad, I am not even scared. I have not cried, I have not ranted and raved. I don't feel mad at the world. I am kind of resigned. In my head I have already heard the dx and know it isn't good. So...
From this state of numbness I have still achieved something that I truly appreciate. My hubby has been having chest pains and numbness in his arm and lips. But refused to see a doctor about it.
So. I asked him if he would rather we not go to the appt tomorrow. If he thought maybe it would be better not to know for sure. Just live our lives until they're done. I'm 56 so I've done a fair bit of living. Maybe we should just coast...
He truly did consider it. Then he emphatically denied it would be a good idea. Long story short, he is calling the doctor on Tuesday for an appt. Thank you thank you thank you.
In the meantime I realize this is my brain's way of coping. But it kind of hurts inside to have no feelings about this. I am scared of when the flood of emotion that I fully expect will occur. Will I be at work? In my car? At dinner with my kids? If I had a wish t would be in the middle of the night, in my bed, with my hubby to hold me.
Ok just reread this - boy am I depressing. I'm going to hit submit anyway. Is there anyone else who is currently living in limbo?
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I am not in this limbo at present. But soooooo get it! I wish you the best of luck tomorrow and I am glad that your husband is going to call the doctor. Take good care and hoping for good news for you!!!! Hugs and blessings! -
Hi hoping. Thanks for your good wishes. This is a strange place to live in. I can remember saying, after my mom was diagnosed, that the last thing I ever wanted to happen to me was BC. Ironic.
On a happier note, wow its happening quick and thank goodness for a medical system where that is the norm. My hubby and one of my daughters are going with me tomorrow so between the three of us, we should get all the info we need to make our decisions.
Thank you for your support.
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I go tomorrow at 1:15 to see surgeon and then immediately after to see plastic surgeon. I have NO IDEA what happens tomorrow! lol.
They said it was cancer Thursday. I had my meltdown. My girls- my sweet girls is all I could think about. My youngest, Will be one in December. So pity party already happened. Stopped crying or imagining things early Saturday and have been on auto drive since.
I'm guessing we find out what surgery they suggest? Then we must have to do several test before the surgery date. But nothing is real until after that surgery and the results from that! At least to me, everything else is prep for the big result. Wait wait wait. But that could be great because we might have time to get several opinions! Best of luck tomorrow for whatever is going to happen? I am still not sure. Bringing a list of questions from the internet. -
i am also meeting one of my two surgeons monday. i just want to see two and see what different opinions they have.
i am worried how much breast they are going to remove (the lump is kind of big and my small boobs)...sigh...i like them, they are small but perky... -
Redreading I am feeling the same as you are. The Dr told me from the films and ultrasound that I have Stage 1 cancer. It is 1cm, I am having a lumpectomy Tuesday. I don't seem to have any feelings about it yet. I can feel it coming and like you just don't know when. When the DR told me I was just releaved to know . I will do what I need to. Then after the surgery when I know everything and what comes next then I will probably fall apart and have my cry. I will say a prayer for all of us facing the uncertainty at this time. -
I already fell apart before the dx but now I'm just numb. I figure it's a mercy to keep us from going crazy with pain and worry. I've been in bed with a cold all weekend too and had to miss my dancing on Saturday and that really hurt b/c I have no idea how much longer I'll be able to do that. I do know from my divorce experience five years ago though that the feelings were delayed. It wasn't until life started getting back to normal only it wasn't and I remember one night when my daughters were gone to dad's and I had one hellacious temper tantrum. I'm surprised the neighbors didn't call the police b/c I was screaming and stomping and crying and felt like I'd gone crazy. It happened again a few months later but with less intensity and who knows with this? I do keep GABA on hand for those times when I start to feel teary b/c sometimes when I start crying I can't stop and that's beyond embarrassing, esp for a teacher. GABA is an amino acid that works like valium only more subtle.
Oh yeah and Thursday right after the phone call with the doc, I went down to use the bathroom and found I'd started the period that I'd hoped I was missing and I ripped off a really bad word and then had to check the bathroom to make sure there were no kids in there. TG there weren't any. I'm 54 and ready for this to be done and the extra hormones are probably what caused my problem in the first place.
Good luck to the rest of the Monday (and Tuesday) club--I hope that we all hear better news than we'd anticipated. -
I can so relate to what you are feeling! I cried a little when my doc told me it was malignant, but then that was it. No more tears, no fear, no anxiety, I feel numb about the whole situation. My poor hubby has had more of a reaction than me. -
You can do this ladies!!! The initial shock is by far the worst thing to deal with! You are all stronger than you know. You got this!!!!! -
Hi girls. Well it's confirmed. BC stage 1. Anything else won't be available until after next Thursday. He said in my case, either choice, lumpectomy or mastectomy were viable choices.
Because of the position of it and the fact that it actually is a lump not a mass, I will be getting my lumpy surgery on that day. He will also take 4 or so lymph nodes just to make sure I am clear. Until then, no more tests, no more appts. That's a bit of a relief.
I have now told my mom (mastectomy 10 years ago) and 4 of the 5 kids. The girls are now on the yearly mammo schedule, and I even told my son to get checked for manly problems. Sigh. Telling my bosses tomorrow, but I kind of resent that. I found myself factoring how very very (lol) very indispensable I am at work into my decision making process.
Ok so a stupid 'that sucks' moment was when I realized that my surgery is only 4 days before the Pink concert. I stood in line for those tickets, back in February. My hubby, myself, one daughter and a granddaughter were sharing the evening. I guess I'll see how I feel.
In the meantime, hugs and kisses to everyone still waiting to hear and to those who are supporting us.
Numby! My new nickname for myself. Lol
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lol redreading...my new nick name for myself is uniboob...
i have a much better picture what's going to happen. the nurse told me they're not doing anymore path reading until after my surgery which will come a week after.
i just got this new job 3 months ago and i love it so much. so this cancer really hit me like a wall of bricks. i have a huge deadline in december so my surgery will probably right after. -
Uniboob! I like it!!!! And I like the little dude with the smile and wicked eyebrows too. Where'd you find him?
Sorry about your stress over a job you love. I really know how you feel because they are few and far between. Have they told you how long you'll be off work yet?
This is horrible time of year for it too. I guess there is no good time though.
Looking forward to emotions sometime soon. Hugs n kisses.
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redreading,
the smiley is that button right above the text box, if you click on that, there'll be more emotion icons to choose.
thanks...i am so glad to have ppl to lean on here. even though we don't know each other but i feel this is such a huge support group. -
ok here was my results:
3 tumors 1cm .8 cm and .6cm.
ER and PR positive
Grade- intermediate? Not sure what that means.
Stage- none given said after surgery.
And for that- Double mascetomy this Wednesday. Reconstruction with expander as well. Double is elective bc it is only in the right. I said get them both. Worked out great because my sister is coming to get my girls and take them during Thanksgiving break. By the time they get back, I should feel way better.
They are taking lymph nodes too bc the underarm one is a little swollen! Fingers crossed it is just swollen and not cancer sick. It has happened all so fast I can't even wrap my brain around it all. Last week on this day, I had my biopsy. Now, I am planning a major surgery!
Just keep swimming!! -
Nope no smiley on my cell phone. Darn. I like smilies smileys? Whatever.
I totally agree about this being a great support group. This weekend, there was a time when I spent 3 hours just reading and learning. I am truly thankful to those who organized such a wonderful site.
Tomorrow is always another day. And I feel a bit better about it thru talking to folks like you. Thanks.
Hugs n kisses from Numby.
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Wow, it's weird how all over the place our experiences are. I'm still confused but I got the feeling that it's very small and I have ILC with possibly LC in situ as well? He said we're def looking at chemo, might could do a lumpectomy but we'll have to have an MRI first and there was no labwork to see about hormones, which I kind of expected, since I'm still premenopausal at 54. When I looked at the mammo, I could see a white spot with all these tentacles coming out of it and figured there was no way we could just do a lumpectomy but he said it's a distinct possibility. So crossing my fingers. Oh and what is that test where they test your lymph nodes to see which ones most likely for BC to have jumped to? They'll do that too and only pull those nodes. He mentioned pain with that one. . . Anyway, I feel a bit better. Guess I'll stop planning my funeral. -
Oh yeah and Juneping, I just started a job that I love 3 mo ago also. Are you a teacher too? -
Hi RedReading, and Juneping, another Uniboober here! There are lots of us around on these boards!
Don't rule out the Pink concert, just play it by ear. You may be surprised by how you feel.
My surgery was a few days before Christmas and I surprised myself, I had no problem entertaining visitors. I even went to a shopping Mall on my way home from the Hospital, with my drain in a shoulder bag
Good luck with it all, I wish you a speedy recovery! -
piper- definitely chemo here too. Both Dr's said because I am 39 (today- happy bday right lol) I am a shoe in. And having three spots made it even more a must. They were not making any guesses on radiation. Did say that could be out due to the hormonal therapy.
Got to watch typing on my iPhone. Just now it tried to say horny therapy lol!!! I am now out of school until Dec. 16th. Pre op today on the 19th my bday. So, that gives me 3 weeks from surgery. I am trying to go back to work before Christmas break. I love that last week of school. I moved from teaching kindergarten to Computer lab last year. It is not that big of a deal. However, I teach every child in the school. I also coach 3 cheer teams. I had to resign last Friday from my oldest team. That was so hard:(. I just need the kids to see me ok. When a 5th grade boy came up to me after Mass, he hugged me and choked out I'm sorry. That killed me! No! I will bounce back and these kids will see how cancer is not going to bring me or their prayers down. So, using all my little minions as inspiration. My three girls first and then all the rest of them.
I am scared of the chemo, getting sick and losing weight. Those fears are constant. Hoping to find some good advice on how to stay as healthy as possible during chemo. Diet, exercise whatever. I know I am the one who is sick, but it is not just about me. It's so much about my family.
It's after 2 am, I have been doing this for over a week now. Waking up 2-4 am. Fun. Reminds me of when I was pg with my first. Anxiety I guess. Sorry for the long post. Late night nerves! -
i am an architect....planning to get my license this coming year. not anymore...
what's a pink concert? -
jodi,
happy birthday!! may be go out have a nice meal with your loved ones...
i too am scared of chemo....the side effect, the baldness. but i know these thoughts are adding the extra stress to my body. let's keep telling ourselves this too shall pass. and it makes us appreciate life, people we love and love us back.
this experience sort of bring out some true color of people around me. i've only told 4 people, and one of them was my superior. so two friends and my sister. one friend told me to just cut them out (meaning mastectomy) like getting a hair cut. she went thru some surgeries few years back because car accident. it upsets me and i don't know how to tell her that sounded so cold in my ears. -
juneping, Redreading said that she stood in line to get "Pink" concert tickets, but that the concert is just 4 days after her surgery. I was just saying that she may still be able to go, to play it by ear. -
Happy Birthday Jodi!
So sorry you, and the other new ladies have to be here, but this is a great place to get support and advice. There is always someone around, you're never alone.
Take care and let us know how you're getting on. -
Jodi, Happy Birthday! Maybe we'll appreciate those b-days a lot more from now on. So you're a teacher too--I haven't told my high school kids yet but I suppose I will be soon b/c they need to know why I've been taking off work more lately. I hear you on the fears--all but losing weight b/c I really would like to do that. I know not everyone gets sick--my aunt never did and said that having a cold is more miserable. I don't mind the hair as much as my boobs--my hair will grow back. I do understand your fears about your kids and your family, but please, do let them take care of mom some too--it will help them build empathy. You don't have to be the narcissistic queen (and it doesn't sound like you are at all) but let them do you some services.
juneping, I hate it for you that this BC has derailed your plans to take the architect test. Can you do that next year? Is it just too much stress? I'm glad you have a great job though--maybe this will all work out for the best after all--it's hard to say how from here but it may be so. Crossing my fingers for you.
I think my biggest fears center around relationships. I am in the very earliest phases of beginning a relationship with a wonderful man who just happens to live 4-1/2 hours away so mainly we've been emailing, texting, and talking on the phone and I've told him what's going on and he's been very supportive but I guess I'm worried that the treatment will age me something fierce and esp the hormonal stuff and he won't even recognize me when he sees me again. I keep looking around though at attractive women who've been thru this already and I gain some confidence. So, gearing up for, I hate to say the fight, but maybe I'll say the challenge.
Ariom, thanks for coming in and adding your wisdom to all our fears. We shall overcome--with your help and the other kind ladies who are helping us. -
piper dream - yes i could take it within the next 4.5 years. but i want to finish it before 2016 because new exam is flooding out then. i hate to buy new study materials...
just broke the news to my boss who was very understanding. and told me get it taken care of ASAP and don't worry about the deadline. i was so touched. and he gave me a hug. my former boss was the opposite. i am not going to lie, i am very grateful in this hard time of my life. -
Juneping, I am so glad you have a great and understanding boss. There is much in our lives still to have gratitude for and it helps to hold on to that.
I told my students today and I was touched by how much they care about me--I feel there is not one who doesn't and maybe that's the joy of teaching special ed--you have a chance to build a closer relationship with them. My senior boy said, "Well, we're all like a family in here and just like a family we'll help you get through. I love that kid! And the rest of them too. -
Oh thank goodness I read the posts. I can make it in time still!
Happy Birthday to you
Happy Birthday to you
Happy Birthday dear Jodi
Happy Birthday to you!
Please imagine the music notes surrounding that. (cuz my voice sucks)
Juneping, I'm sorry about your architechs exam. Is it totally out of the question? I don't know because we are all dealing with different things and I know the pull to concentrate on this one thing is really strong. But I'm wondering if maybe, kinda ignoring it (yeah, right) might work better in some cases. You know, do what you have to, but keep on with life?
Piper, I'm so glad your kids took it so well. You can always count on kids to keep it real. They're sorry it's happening but still urge you to get on with it. It's all going be okay in their world.
Arion, thanks for the reminder that this isn't the end of anything. Pink - i'm coming to see you. I've always wanted to.
Shammi, how you doing girl? Haven't heard from you in a bit?
Siniberry, I know your op was today, so you probably aren't online, but I want you to know we're there for you. Let us know you're ok as soon as you can.
And now I need to whine for a minute. I'm terrified of needles of any kind. The freezing for the biopsy nearly broke the poor nurses hand. I am getting a wire locator put into the tumor and they are going to put more needles in my nipple filled with radioactive dye. The freezing alone is scary. This is what kept me up last night. You know when you are just falling asleep and you get that falling, jerk feeling that makes you wake up instantly? Mine last night was with needles. But I'll be awake for it all. I'm now officially scared.
So much for numby.
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Red- I had to jump in as I am a needle-phobe myself. In the spirit of full disclosure I am a nurse so I guess I can "dish it out" but can't take it" hahahah
Biopsy went a lot like yours- local really did not work (another story-ugh) held onto the table for dear life.
I had a needle localization- before my surgery sounds like you are having that? It was just the local anesthetic that really "stung"- I did not feel pain when the wires went in. I got a little light-headed and had to stop and lay down not knowing the wires were already in!! I think I was either holding my breath or hyperventilating or something just worrying.
I went right to nuclear medicine for that injection and I think the local anesthetic from the needle localization and wire placement was still going strong because I did not feel it at ALL- I lost a lot of sleep reading about nipple injections and mine was on the side where my original core bx was.
See if you can schedule your wire placement and your nuc med injection close together to keep all that local anesthetic numbing you up. -
awww redreading I hear ya..I'm terrified of needles also...I'm terrified of all of this to be honest..a girl on a different thread said to ask for numbing cream and apply it one hr before the injection for the radioactive medicine . I don't know if that will help you but it's not so much the pain as the needles I worry about..good luck to you wishing the best for you...I have been dx recently and still waiting on a surgery date. Seems like its never going to happen. -
Hi to all newly diagnosed. I got my diagnosis in July. Most of you have not included information about what kind of breast cancer you have. You can get a copy of the report from your doctor and you should ask for it if they didn't give it to you. There is a huge difference in treatment depending on what kind of cancer you have and you have options. Sometimes women hear the word cancer and assume the worst. Breast cancer is treatable and there are plenty of women who have lived long lives after diagnosis. Women may assume their doctors will tell them everything they need to know without having to ask. FALSE. Several of the threads I participate in on this forum concentrate on things they DID'NT know and wish they did.
Once you know your diagnosis - kind of breast cancer and grade (intermediate is grade 2 by the way) - read all the basic permanent info on this forum and look on the MD Anderson, Mayo Clinic, and Johns Hopkins websites. They have up to date accurate information you can trust. LOTS of information on the internet is old, out of date, or proven wrong. Stick with reputable cancer websites. Make notes, even if you don't quite understand. Those will be things to ask your doctor. Don't be surprised if you hear opposing opinions. Doctors don't always agree on treatments.
The breast cancer nurse navigator told me that the usual treatment for my kind of cancer was lumpectomy and radiation. I knew nothing about breast cancer and decided to get smarter about it REAL quick. I had three days from the diagnosis until I met with the breast surgeon, radiologist, and oncologist. As I read everything I could find and wrote pages of notes, I put a question mark in the margin if I didn't understand a word or a concept. Then later I looked those up and researched until I understood better. I got a notebook and dividers and put in my notes plus copies of articles I'd read. If it was something I wanted to ask my doctor about, I put a sticky "flag" on the page. That way I could maximize the time I had with each doctor. By the time of my appointment, I knew enough to understand what the doctors were likely to tell me. I knew that I didn't want a lumpectomy and radiation and was prepared to tell the doctors why.
The breast surgeon started off by telling me that my cancer was an aggressive kind but not yet invasive. They had caught it early! My decision was that I wanted a mastectomy and in fact wanted a double mastectomy even though the cancer was in only one breast. I could not live the rest of my life worrying if the surgeon got all the cancer in the lumpectomy, wondering if it would come back in that breast or whether I would get cancer in the other breast too. My breast surgeon agreed with my decision. (It's a good thing I opted for the double mastectomy because after the surgery the pathology report on the "good" breast showed it had cancer too.) The surgeon told me about immediate reconstruction. The doctor said after he performed the mastectomy, the plastic surgeon would take over and put in implants. Wonderful! No dragging it out for months with tissue expanders. Instead I would have one surgery and wake up with new breasts. One and Done!
The oncologist confirmed that as long my lymph nodes were clear and there were no surprises, by having a mastectomy I would NOT have to have radiation, chemo, or hormone therapy for 5 years. My decision was the right one for me. Other women with the same diagnosis might make a different decision and theirs will be right for them. If I were a lot younger maybe I might have made a different choice. If I had a different kind of cancer or if it hadn't been found so soon, I might not have had as many options.
The important thing is that you get educated so you know about your kind of cancer, know what options you might have and what questions to ask. If you are educated, you will know if it's time to get a second opinion or change doctors altogether. Some women report doctors who don't seem to care. Fortunately I had doctors who supported me and made me feel I was a part of the decision making process, not just another set of boobs.
P.S. Although the BMX (bilateral mastectomy) on Aug. 23rd went fine and I did wake up with perky new breasts, I developed an infection (there are germs in hospitals!) and ended up having one of the implants taken out & a tissue expander (TE) put in on September 6th. A few weeks later I began getting saline fills every week for 6 weeks. So right now I have one nice implant that has never given me an ounce of trouble and one fat full TE. Surgery to exchange the TE for a permanent implant is Dec. 6th. -
just came back from my appt with my BS #1 and she got the MRI report i did yesterday. apparently the cancer already spread inside my breast. so she said i will probably need radiation even if i have a mastestomy...because the cancer cell could have already gone to the skin. i've never liked biology at school now i felt like a crack class..lol
and the MRI also found something in my good breast which warrant a US and a bigger sample biopsy. i am not going to lie, i didn't expect this. and now i am leaning towards BMX. this is such a huge disturbance to my life and i don't want to deal with this again. the mental burden is getting me so exhausted.
thanks for letting me vent.
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